It used to be there, and now it's gone! i didn't do anything, soft reset doesn't help! any ideas?
Rob
Hi Rob
Having the same problem with the Xda Exec.
After I did a soft rest the battery icon desapered.
Anybody out they knows how to get it back on the Today Screen.
Please help.
Gigino
I actually searched for a while to find a way to remove the battery icon. In the end, the only way I'm aware of to remove it is to run this:
Signed_UNI_Remove_BatteryIcon.sa.CAB
from the O2 XDA Exec extended ROM. Since I have a Jasjar I had to download that cab from the FTP site here. My guess is that you have an XDA Exec and you recently hard reset it and allowed the CABs in the extended ROM to run, or you ran that program from the extended ROM manually.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how you undo it once it's been run. It doesn't appear in Remove Programs and while I'm sure it just makes a registry change somewhere I haven't got a clue where
Personally, I never did like that battery icon anyway... it didn't seem to be terribly accurate and it was only visible from the today screen. I use the freeware program batti as a battery monitor instead.
hth,
Brett
I have the same problem, though I don't miss it that much. Must specify that in my case, it didn't happen after a soft reset, it just happened.
Have you not tried opening the CAB in WinRAR, manually looking at the files and attempting to find which registry entry it modifies? I can't find the CAB on the FTP site, but I'm not that bothered as I don't have a Magician but if someone passes me a link for it, I'll have a look.
try this regkey
HKLM\services\power\ShowIcon
Change the 0 to 1
Soft reset - and you're cookin'
Nice one, giving that a go now - slightly unrelated but I'm using GS Pocket Magic and when using the 'Close All' command, my shortcut bar buttons disappear, the ones at the bottom of the screen that read CONTACTS and CALENDAR.
Any ideas?
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Nice one, giving that a go now - slightly unrelated but I'm using GS Pocket Magic and when using the 'Close All' command, my shortcut bar buttons disappear, the ones at the bottom of the screen that read CONTACTS and CALENDAR.
Any ideas?
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It's a known issue with Pocket Magic... there was a thread on it a while ago. From what I understand, there is some program or process that runs in the background that makes those shortcut buttons appear. Since Pocket Magic was designed for WM 2003 it doesn't know about that process, so it kills it when you do the close all. Since I'm no longer using Pocket Magic I don't know if anyone has managed to resolve the issue.
Brett
Ok, thanks for your reply - I notice PocketMagic has the functionality to NOT terminate certain programs (this option is in the Preferences for it), so if we can identify this process, we can exclude it...
I'll investigate...hang on!
Frustratingly my version of SKTools only lists the top 6 processes, if we can go through each one by one, we can suss out which process it is!
hi Robt,
to get back your battery icon, just do a hard reset and the battery icon it will appear again..it works for me. i've got same problem like you.
hope this help you and other
ps:i'm use universal with corporate install
good luck
NO Don't hard reset, thats just stupid!! For anyone looking for a genuine answer that won't cause loss of data, do this...as the chap recommends above.
1. Use registry editor to browse to 'HKLM\services\power\ShowIcon'
2. Change the value 0 to a 1
3. Soft reset
No data lost, and a nice battery icon for you!
since i dont have many data and many program installed in my exec, the simple things just do it my way (although u will lose your data). but hey that the simple way since i'm a beginner and it's difficult doing some registry hack for me. any way you can do it with hard reset or soft reset like ashley.
my 2 cents
Did you mean the batter icon at the top of the screen or at the bottom. Because the batter icon in the title bar is an O2 program that runs from a link in the start up folder.
The problem with doing it with a hard reset to get the battery icon back is: as soon as you perform a soft reset, you will again loose the battery icon. So there is no point really of performing a hard reset to get the battery icon back since you will loose it anyway if you perform a soft reset.
To me this battery icon is USELESS! Why? Its only purpose is a shortcut to Start>Settings>System>Memory>Battery level. To be completely useful to me, it should be a real INDICATOR icon of the actual battery level. But sadly it is not. Maybe this is the reason why they want it out of the way.
Plus, I use HandyMenu which has an option to show the battery level at an instant. Plus I get more functionality with it.
Maybe we're talking about different battery meters but mine appears bottom right hand corner and acfurately reflects the status of the battery - The simple registry change does it!
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Maybe we're talking about different battery meters but mine appears bottom right hand corner and acfurately reflects the status of the battery - The simple registry change does it!
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Yes, that is the icon I was referring to. The one that can be shown by what you posted.
HMMMMMMM, maybe I did not look hard enough on mine. I remmber on mine when my battery was 89%, the battery icon still looks like it was full, thus making my assumption it does not reflect the actual battery charge. I did notice that it shows if I have it plugged in though. Maybe I should try it again, now that my battery is low.
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HMMMMMMM, maybe I did not look hard enough on mine. I remmber on mine when my battery was 89%, the battery icon still looks like it was full, thus making my assumption it does not reflect the actual battery charge. I did notice that it shows if I have it plugged in though. Maybe I should try it again, now that my battery is low.
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It does show the battery charge, but it does a terrible job of it. As I recall, the battery needs to get well past 75% before the icon shows anything but a full charge. It was really pretty useless if you ask me.
Brett
BrettS said:
It does show the battery charge, but it does a terrible job of it. As I recall, the battery needs to get well past 75% before the icon shows anything but a full charge. It was really pretty useless if you ask me.
Brett
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Thanks BrettS, you save me a reset. I was timing my lovely puppy here how long it can work without any problems without a soft reset. So far 5 days and still running in excellent condition. I am trying to prove to myself that pocket PCs nowadays are stable as can be. This is my first pocket PC and I was afraid to buy a pocket PC before because a lot of palm users said you need to soft reset PPCs a lot to get it running neatly. Now I know it is BOGUS and purely INCORRECT.
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The problem with doing it with a hard reset to get the battery icon back is: as soon as you perform a soft reset, you will again loose the battery icon. So there is no point really of performing a hard reset to get the battery icon back since you will loose it anyway if you perform a soft reset.
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in my case, after performing a hard reset to get back my battery icon, i didnt
notice and didnt count exactly how many times after i performed soft reset then the battery icon gone again.because this my first experience with battery icon vanished. but as long i remembered, after i performed a hard reset then next day performed a soft reset, the battery icon still there.so i assumed that the best way for me to get battery icon back, since i'm not expert with registry hack and worried if do anything wrong with my new toys.
just want to share my experience with a beginner solution.
yeah maybe the icon is not usefull, but the icon looks cute.
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I bought a Qtek 9000 a couple days ago and I'm pleasently surprised. I heard all the bad stories about the MDA PRO, O2 Exec, ... so I kind of feared the worst. But I took a chance and bought it anyway and the Qtek doesn't seem to be as bad as the other versions.
It does ring when I get called and the ring isn't late. I didn't notice any difference with my previous phone. So that's positive, I didn't change the ringtone on the other hand, so I don't have a large mp3 as ringtone.
Second, it is stable. Haven't had a crash, hangup, program error. Nor does it crash when I receive a SMS. I have received about 10 SMS'es though, not alot i know. The device is pretty snappy, I never have to wait a few seconds when opening programs or changing the screen-rotation. Also when I bring it back from standby, I don't have to wait at all...
I did a soft reset after setting the regional settings and the phone has been on for allmost 5 days. No major RAM issues, although the free RAM is shrinking, stopping applications in the memory-settings does free up some RAM, but not all. When I first booted the device I had just over 30MB free, and it has slowly decreased to about 18-19MB. I haven't installed any extra programmes on it.
So I might consider a soft reset when it reaches 10MB or so. But my question is, is a soft reset bad? Because you can't really shut the device off, you can only put it in sleep/standby. So rebooting it like a normal pc isn't possible. Does a soft reset damange any programs, settings... that's my main question.
Also, what's the best way to keep the battery in top-condition. Charge it when it's at 20% when the device tells you to charge it. Or charge it when you can, because it doesn't matter when you charge...
And one last thing, MSN Messenger doesn't draw the conversation window that well... Sometimes the part of the screen where your received/sent messages are shown is really small (about 3 lines high) and there is a large whitespace under the field where you type your message.
Thanks a lot to the guys at this forum for providing me with the most reliable info about the device, so I knew what I was getting.
Emmerman
PS: I ordered a Brando Screen Protector Plus, any comments, things I should know before I put it on the screen?
This is a good post to read first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32218&start=150
Here you will have an is\dea of what to expect between a QTEC and an O2 NEW ROM version have to offer.
Thanks for the link, but I wasn't really looking for a new ROM. As I'm quite new to the Universal, I prefer getting to know the device itself better, before I start doing the more 'professional' things. Besides, I don't have any major issues with the Qtek ROM at the moment.
I just wanted to know a little more about soft-resetting the device and how to charge your battery for best longterm performance. Because I find the manual quite minimalistic.
To soft reset: YOU RETAIN YOUR SETTINGS.
1) Just press the small pin hole found at the back of the Universal right beside the USB plug.
To hard reset: YOU LOOSE YOUR CURRENT SETTINGS. BACK TO FACTORY SETTINGS.
A) Method One
1) Go to Start.
2) Go to Programs.
3) Go to Clear Storage.
4) Type in the code: 1234
5) Press YES.
6) Wait for the automatic reset.
B) Method Two
1) Press and hold the two keys with this mark (-) at the same time found at the top most part of the keyboard.
2) While pressing these 2 keys, press the pin hole found at the back of the Universal for 1 second.
3) You will notice a reset and a blank screen will appear.
4) It will prompt you to either press X or 0.
5) Just choose which one you prefer.
emmerman said:
Does a soft reset damange any programs, settings... that's my main question.
Also, what's the best way to keep the battery in top-condition.
PS: I ordered a Brando Screen Protector Plus, any comments, things I should know before I put it on the screen?
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1) No, a reset both hard and soft does not damage your Universal. A soft reset to clear out the memory is good to speed up things better.
2) The best way is to leave it charging for more than 16 hours the first time. Unplug and use it till it drops to around 15% then charge it fully again, this time it does not need the 16 hours. Just wait for the green light indicating a full charge. After following these first two, just keep it plug-in before going to sleep at night making sure you got a full charge for the next morning.
3) I don't know about Brando's screen protector but I used Proporta's screen protector which included a wipe cloth and a screen spreader. I've had my screen protector on before I started even charging and using my phone. Another tip is to use a small peice of tape to take off some dust or specs that might have stuck on the screen before applying the screen protector. Sometimes even with the wipe there are still dust residues. You can also use the tape to clean the side of the screen protector that is going to stick on the screen.
Isn't a soft reset similar to pushing the reset button on your desktop? So couldn't you loose cached data that is in the RAM, because it wasn't written to ROM yet?
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Isn't a soft reset similar to pushing the reset button on your desktop? So couldn't you loose cached data that is in the RAM, because it wasn't written to ROM yet?
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I had never lost any data after a soft reset. It free up unused memory that was being kept by the system for faster processing. Plus WM5 has persistent memory now. May be that was the difference?
So in fact, you can't shutdown a Qtek? You can put it in standby modus, but the phone is still working then. And resetting it, is just rebooting it. So if you want to take out your SIM card, you have to take the battery out while it is actually running?
You actually can turn you device off, with a little help of some small programs, like PsShutXP for example.
Hmm, thanks for the info. I will look into that one, but at the moment I'm still very hesitant to install any third party applications on my 6-days old precious.
One other question, does the led blink orange when you receive a SMS. Because now it doesn't, it blinks green, like normal. But I seem to remember the first I got it, it blinked orange. Or am I confused.
@emmerman
You are right you can lose data. I have lost emails and other users have reported loss of WEP keys etc. But I have never had this problem with Symbian devices.
emmerman said:
One other question, does the led blink orange when you receive a SMS. Because now it doesn't, it blinks green, like normal. But I seem to remember the first I got it, it blinked orange. Or am I confused.
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Can anyone answer this one.
Go to Start>Settings>Sound and Notifications>Notifications Tab>Choose the event you wish to correct.
The changes in any settings never occurred on mine nor any type of freezes. Something I am glad about.
What I did when I first turned on my device, off from the box or right after a hard reset, was to go through those settings and made sure they are all configured the way I want them to notify me. This is the only difference I could possibly think of why others have disappearing settings on notifications.
I'm not sure exactly why it's happening, the last thing i remember doing before this problem occurred was uninstall some programs, and decrease the text size in settings.
But everytime I power on the handset, it will boot up fine. But then the activesync information screen (the one that shows your recent syncronizations) will pop up, and my phone freezes up right there. It's pretty much unavoidable at this point, everytime I reset my phone its the same problem. I'm able to do a soft reset at this point, but that's pretty much it.
If it's any help, one of the programs I removed was pTravelAlarm (Burr oak software) i got rid of that because i was getting a "Cannot execute \Windows\pTAmgr.exe" Notification Error during startup, which now that I mention it, the error still pops up even after i removed it.
Is there anyway to perform a hard reset without having to be in windows, or connected through activesync?
Or am i pretty much boned at this point.
You don't need or want to be connected to Active sync when doing a hard reset!
Hard reset is pressing both soft keys at the same time as poking the stlus in the soft reset hole. This takes device (after some menu screens) back to the way you got it originally.
Mike
ah, ok, i was under the impression that the "Reset" key was actually on the screen. yes im a silly newbie . Thanks!
tyfin85 said:
ah, ok, i was under the impression that the "Reset" key was actually on the screen. yes im a silly newbie . Thanks!
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We're all newbies to start with and we're all still newbies with some aspect or other of Hermes or WM5.
Use this thread if you have problems with hard reset.
Mike
I did a hard reset, and its working just fine. Though i do think i'll be updating the ROM, seeing as i've had many problems with the phone freezing up and recycling itself under the OEM ROM. Thanks again
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I did a hard reset, and its working just fine. Though i do think i'll be updating the ROM, seeing as i've had many problems with the phone freezing up and recycling itself under the OEM ROM. Thanks again
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For many freezing up problems see my post on active sync here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288352
Mike
Why is that? Since I upgraded to WM6, and I remove the battery the clock resets to 12:00 in 2004
that's basically the only weird thing I have with wm6 on the blue angel so far... what an upgrade
I think it could be, because when you remove the main battery the backup doesn't last very long (20 mins max last time i checked in the manual).
How long do you remove the main battery for?
Steve123456 said:
I think it could be, because when you remove the main battery the backup doesn't last very long (20 mins max last time i checked in the manual).
How long do you remove the main battery for?
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2 seconds to switch sim card
Just test on my: remove battery, wait 20sec, reconnect (no R G), soft reset, everything OK on date/time.
Maybe your backup battery is dead?
DANDANA said:
Just test on my: remove battery, wait 20sec, reconnect (no R G), soft reset, everything OK on date/time.
Maybe your backup battery is dead?
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why do you softreset after removing the bat..?
edit: just tried it again, reset again... backup battery was fine on wince3... it's at 100%
ow well, I can live with it, it's not that I remove the battery all the time, and active sync adjusts the clock anyway...
No R G on the boot screen...just to get my radio back
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No R G on the boot screen...just to get my radio back
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yeah I've noticed that too on my test qtek... but on mine it's always there
to save you the hassle of manually changing the time/date or docking it in the crade, try this:
1. soft reset. as soon as you see the 4-color screen (DO NOT WAIT for the R, G, and D values to be shown), remove the battery.
2. replace the battery
3. turn on the phone. soft reset. when you see "none" values for R and G, soft reset again.
the time/date will be retained.
Hi there,
I have the same issue. In fact, each time I remove battery, even for 1 sec, I lose Date/time and "lock buttons" setting. Nothing else.
I tried what you said, but nothing changed. I just noticed that the "R None" comes directly after I turn on the phone (your 2nd step).
I am doing something wrong ?
i missed some steps. before you remove the battery, you should not wait for the RGD values to be shown... it should be only the 4-color screen.
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i missed some steps. before you remove the battery, you should not wait for the RGD values to be shown... it should be only the 4-color screen.
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ok... that actually works... so I have to do that every time I want to remove the battery safely?
thanks for the help.
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tjacquem said:
Hi there,
I have the same issue. In fact, each time I remove battery, even for 1 sec, I lose Date/time and "lock buttons" setting. Nothing else.
I tried what you said, but nothing changed. I just noticed that the "R None" comes directly after I turn on the phone (your 2nd step).
I am doing something wrong ?
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yes indeed, it's the Date/time and the lock buttons, and any buttons you redefined (I always redefine the record button as screen rotate button)...
but that's all fixed now
It works for me when I follow the steps exactly as described. Thanks Raymonds - it saves me from the pain of reloading all my apps and syncing up with exchange... which I've done may be 4-5 times already.
This should be added to WIKI IMO
yes, i guess it should be in the wiki. please feel free to place it there (i don't know how... i might mess it up)
i happened to come up with this combination by accident... crude, but effective.
tjacquem said:
I have the same issue. In fact, each time I remove battery, even for 1 sec, I lose Date/time and "lock buttons" setting. Nothing else.
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Probably you are loosing:
- wifi settings (paswords etc)
- bluetooth pairing
too
It looks like part of Hard Reset procedure, but without clearing registry not memory.
But hard reset doesn't clear "button lock" settings
I have no problem with data / time, but could anyone tell me what "R none" and "G none" means? I had this problem since yesterday. I switched on my phone: softreset. Then the two "none" values. And I couldn't phone anyone. I already thought that I had erased my Radio ROM somehow.
Now I read your instructions: softreset, battery remove immediately, battery in and again softreset. Now I have correct values in "R" and "G", but my phone says "SIM card not valid". Hmm....
Has someone an idea?
Thank you,
Alex
EDIT: After this procedure I loose my date/time settings. But this is no problem, I just want to get my phone back
EDIT2: I removed the SIM again and put the battery in, then again R and G "none". After a softreset, the values are back. But still (without SIM) it says "SIM not valid". When I tap on the digits, it thinks I want to enter a PIN (and I have no PIN)...
Alegra, the "NONE" issue is caused by the bootloader going to quickly, so the radio has not been initialized by the time the OS starts to query it. If the OS boots up, there is effectively no radio for it to use. I'm not sure why this causes settings to be lost, possibly just bad handling of the error condition.
Basically, whenever you replace the battery you should be prepared to hit reset once the four bars appear. This needs done every time you do this.
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to save you the hassle of manually changing the time/date or docking it in the crade, try this:
1. soft reset. as soon as you see the 4-color screen (DO NOT WAIT for the R, G, and D values to be shown), remove the battery.
2. replace the battery
3. turn on the phone. soft reset. when you see "none" values for R and G, soft reset again.
the time/date will be retained.
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I am a heavy user of two batteries, isn't there a permanent fix for this? I am sure the M$ didn't design their new OS for battery devices that loose settings when the battery is removed.
I also use more than one battery. Always having to reset the date and time is cumbersome. Has there been any resolution?
Today I had to softreset my phone for the first time without doing it from Mobile Shell. The phone hanged for the first time - and I didn´t find the reset button You have to take of the battery cover to soft reset it - hadn´t thought of that before because I never had to do it Lucky you don´t have to do it very often
Oh man, are you serious?! That might be a deal breaker for me. As often as you have to reset WM, I can't believe they were that dumb!
Blowfish64 said:
Oh man, are you serious?! That might be a deal breaker for me. As often as you have to reset WM, I can't believe they were that dumb!
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yes but the phone is so stable you don´t have to do it often I have to reset my Touch Pro much more often
Given the instability of many 3rd party programs, it's not going to matter how stable Sony's OS build is, it's going to freeze up. I was trying to give Sony the benefit of the doubt on their hardware design seeing as how they're new to the WM world and all, but first they take off the side button, and now this. Just stupid.
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Given the instability of many 3rd party programs, it's not going to matter how stable Sony's OS build is, it's going to freeze up. I was trying to give Sony the benefit of the doubt on their hardware design seeing as how they're new to the WM world and all, but first they take off the side button, and now this. Just stupid.
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I once did the misstake and bought a Samsung SGH-i780 - it could not even be hard reset Just inside WM with "Clear storage" - but not with any button combination. It took Samsung months to fix it for the english roms. But the Swedish rom is yet not updated and fixed - so if it hangs and only a hard reset helps you have to send it to their repairshop - thats stupid
i know there is a soft reset program for windows mobile which you could use so that you wont have to remove the battery cover.
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i know there is a soft reset program for windows mobile which you could use instead of removing the battery cover.
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Yes as I wrote I normally use Mobile Shell for that, there are lot of applications for soft reset. But they are no help when the phone has hang and you can´t use them
try long press turn on/off button
on HTC Pharos its working even if OS is freeze
kosobryuh said:
try long press turn on/off button
on HTC Pharos its working even if OS is freeze
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same on my kaiser
I guess the common image of any MS product is that you have to reset all the time. Its not really true. I rarely have to reset my kaiser. 90% of the time I reset, it is because some software or teak that I made needs a reset to apply itself. My phone rarely crashes. I guess YMMV.
agree... 1 time in 2-3 weekx at maximum for my touchXL
It's more like 1-2 times a day on my Kaiser. That'd be annoying. But if holding hangup button really worked PERFECTLY even if the entire phone was frozen, I'd be ok with that. Anyone with the X1 want to check?
My Wizard has never really locked up anytime I was just using it how its supposed to be used. Now when I go into things that arent preinstalled on the phone eg PocketSNES or FPSEce then it might freeze and since those are 3rd party programs you can't complain about them locking up.
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My Wizard has never really locked up anytime I was just using it how its supposed to be used. Now when I go into things that arent preinstalled on the phone eg PocketSNES or FPSEce then it might freeze and since those are 3rd party programs you can't complain about them locking up.
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Uhm, bingo. 3rd party apps. Kind of one of those things that is attractive in WM versus the iPhone. You know what they are, right? I mean, it's great that the OS of the Xperia is stable, but since 3rd party apps aren't always stable, did Sony put some sort of guarantee in there that the phone would never lock up no matter what? No? Then why are you posting about how the lack of an external soft-reset button doesn't matter?
I don't like the soft-reset hole under the battery-cover too. But does it matter? Would I not buy the phone in cause of this? No!
I have the same problem with my G900. Yes, I don't like it and there are moments, softreset by software does not work and the 5 second-hold of the power-off does not work too. But they are not often and mostly when playing with new installations of software. In the daily work there is no need to softreset by this and therefore I don't mind this problem, even I don't like it.
Drill a hole in the back cover , then U can softreset it without remove it
Its a good phone.. but when U try alot of soft its good to have Spb + installed to be able to start in safemode.
notice some system apps and tweaks did hang it after a rebot.. maybe its the screen size.
a fast remove of cover and soft reset it twice jumps the question about safe mode and then U can uninstal the bugger.
but .. its so much better then my Kaiser.
Love the steel look.
Feels so solid.
can live with the reset under the cover
Would LOVE some custome roms .. hehe anyone ???
Carlis said:
Drill a hole in the back cover , then U can softreset it without remove it
Its a good phone.. but when U try alot of soft its good to have Spb + installed to be able to start in safemode.
notice some system apps and tweaks did hang it after a rebot.. maybe its the screen size.
a fast remove of cover and soft reset it twice jumps the question about safe mode and then U can uninstal the bugger.
but .. its so much better then my Kaiser.
Love the steel look.
Feels so solid.
can live with the reset under the cover
Would LOVE some custome roms .. hehe anyone ???
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I thought spb pp safe mode just disabled the spb extensions. Does it also disable other startup apps too?
JKingDev said:
I thought spb pp safe mode just disabled the spb extensions. Does it also disable other startup apps too?
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yes it start it clean. not just the Spb apps.
Could anyone take a picture of the back of the phone with the cover off so I can see where exactly the reset button is located?
Now that HTC have located the reset button under the battery cover whats the point in it anymore. If the covers off you may as well yank the battery out than spend 10 minutes looking for a suitable pen etc to press the little bugger with.....
Just my 2 pence worth!!!!
richie_jones said:
Now that HTC have located the reset button under the battery cover whats the point in it anymore. If the covers off you may as well yank the battery out than spend 10 minutes looking for a suitable pen etc to press the little bugger with.....
Just my 2 pence worth!!!!
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Agreed. I just pull the battery when necessary because I never have anything small enough to press it.
You dont really need it anyway
richie_jones said:
Now that HTC have located the reset button under the battery cover whats the point in it anymore. If the covers off you may as well yank the battery out than spend 10 minutes looking for a suitable pen etc to press the little bugger with.....
Just my 2 pence worth!!!!
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If you want to soft-reset the device - just hold the power button,
then select "Power Off".
Tap the power button again - and - the device had soft-resetted.
It the device is hung - well, that's a different story,
as you said - just pop the battery, and you're set.
Bad idea to hide reset point. Window mobile sucks a lot, and everyday I need open the battery cache. Just boring.
Is a simple power cycle (power off/on) the exact same thing as a soft reset?
I always thought they were different for some reason?
They are not different. Only sometimes you can't use power off, for example if the device is stuck.
biranouran said:
Bad idea to hide reset point. Window mobile sucks a lot, and everyday I need open the battery cache. Just boring.
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I can't imagine what you are doing if you have to soft reset like this every day but I wouldn't blame it on Windows Mobile. I think I've had to pop the battery maybe twice in the last month and I know that it was my fault at least one of those times.
Agreed. Although so far the only thing I've had that needs it is when the lock-screen decides not to accept my PIN. But how long until the battery cover no longer stays in place?
Strange.. Never had to make a reset yet. Still havent crashed on me not only once. Am I blessed? lol
Yes if I need to do it the buttin is not on the best spot but for me it is working like a charm!
I had few hangups trying different CorePlayer output devices. Also had to reset few times because of problems with lock screen (could not unlock).
But all-around, HD2 is pretty stable for WM device.
If spare back-plates become readily available, and don't cost too much, I might drill a hole in mine so that a paperclip could hit the reset button without pulling the back off every time. Given the location of the reset button, it almost feels like this hole should already exist.
Due to a crash caused by putting the phone in standby while closing down igo8, i had to reset my device to make it work again.
I didnt had a pencil close by so i just pulled the battery out. When i booted it again it seems manilla became corrupted and restored itself (like after a hard-reset). I needed to fill in my details in manilla just like after a hard reset. So some information was lost, but the storage on the phone was still there. But for example i needed to install cf3.5 again and all the apps asked if they are verified before i could start them again.
I wonder if this problem occured because i pulled the battery instead of pushing the reset button? ANyway this is a pain in the ass bug but as far as i can tell im the only one with this problem so far...
Well, I think HTC chose to hide the soft rest button right next to the battery becuase of two reasons:
1. You don't have the chance to accidentally press that button. BTW: I have never accidentally pressed the soft rest button on my P4350...
2. If they hadn't built in such a button, everyone here qould be bragging and nagging that there is no such button, and you'd always have to "pull the plug" ie. the battery, which would of course be harmful for the battery etc. pp.
cyclingfan74 said:
Well, I think HTC chose to hide the soft rest button right next to the battery becuase of two reasons:
1. You don't have the chance to accidentally press that button. BTW: I have never accidentally pressed the soft rest button on my P4350...
2. If they hadn't built in such a button, everyone here qould be bragging and nagging that there is no such button, and you'd always have to "pull the plug" ie. the battery, which would of course be harmful for the battery etc. pp.
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3. They didn't actually use the device enough to realise that hiding the reset button was a daft idea.
pixel said:
3. They didn't actually use the device enough to realise that hiding the reset button was a daft idea.
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Design over function, I think...
The reset button should be recessed into the lower SIDE of the phone, next to the usb and earphone ports. Having to remove the battery cover just negates the need for the button, period.
pixel said:
3. They didn't actually use the device enough to realise that hiding the reset button was a daft idea.
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I think it's good for design. And it's not like we need to press the reset button everyday.
kengkaj.s said:
I think it's good for design. And it's not like we need to press the reset button everyday.
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Um but you never need to press the reset button. Ever. Once you've taken the battery cover off it's easier to just remove the battery than press the reset button....
kengkaj.s said:
I think it's good for design.
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Until the battery cover no longer stays on because the plastic tabs in the phone body have been worn because they forgot to put a small hole in the battery cover to reach the reset button.