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How employ other gps software with EMTAC BT antenna than TT

I have the tomtom navigator 3 and a EMTAC bluetooth antenna and this works perfectly
My problem is that when I'am trying to employ other softwares like VITONAVIGATOR, GPSDASH ,INTELLIGOLF, and so on I cannot configure the softwares to recognize my antenna.
Kindest regards
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hi,
solution is simple...
sorry to say it, but uninstall TomTom GPS or better the whole TomTom and use Mapsonic or Mapopolis instead of it...
i did the same.
buzz

emtac
Yes of course but i already bought tomtom, is there any other solution?

Simple, in Remove Programs uninstall TomTom~GPS.
This won't prevent TomTom from working but will stop TomTom locking the BT Com Port for its own exclusive use.
Plenty of discussion of this on our website, see our detailed explanation here.

@griffog
man, that's an excellent guide there... really good one...
;o) basically i meant the same... ;o)))
but, tomtom needs also far more processing power than other comparable programs, that means battery drains 30% faster, slower UI response, etc.
i know, battery is not any issue if you are driving, but i sometimes walk as well... )))
anyway, i don't like tomtom...
do you maybe know, is it possible to do crossborder routing in newer tomtom versions? like you can in mapopolis?
THANX
buzz

It looks like TomTom v5 will do cross border-routing yes. I have never experienced slow response to the UI except when using SD for map storage on iPAQ2210's. Using CF resolves this.
v5 also introduces walking and cycling modes which alter the route calculations. What PDA/GPS/memory Card Combo do you use?

darren it our work around doesnt work for xda2

griffog said:
It looks like TomTom v5 will do cross border-routing yes. I have never experienced slow response to the UI except when using SD for map storage on iPAQ2210's. Using CF resolves this.
v5 also introduces walking and cycling modes which alter the route calculations. What PDA/GPS/memory Card Combo do you use?
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hi griffog,
i'm using XDA2 + EMTAC BT + Mapsonic or Mapopolis.
Maps are on Transcend 64Mb SD card.
i'm very satisfied with this combination
buzz

just being playing with mine :lol: :shock: eerrrr right
first delete gps 2.07 or above then soft reset the device install pocket bluetooth tools delete the pairing with your receiver repair then ( during which you will be asked to create a serial port for this device select NO at this point then intall gps 2.06 available from www.pocketgpsworld.com this available in the downloads section under tomtom gps drivers.
download the cab file and copy it to the xda2 and then exicute it from file explorer select you reciver and away you go
well thats how i did it hopefully the above ramblings make sense :lol:

Alix, how will he configure the other gps software if no serial port has been assigned, I understand this works under tomtom as "bluetooth gps" but I am not so sure it will work with the software he mentions.unless you have tried it, if so how did you configure it.?

bluetooth tools asigns the comport to com7 not sure hows these thing work really it just worked for me i can run tomtom 3 and copoilt 5 on the same machine

Can I run Tomtom without SD Card on Jasjar?

Can I run Tomtom on a Jasjar without using an SD Card? I have a SDIO Gps and cant install an SD Card at the same time or do I have to get rid of my SDIO Gps and go BT?
Regards

Hi there
yes u can
first u have to see that how much space u have in your JASJAR available to maps, normally maps take approx 100 MB space, so if you have more than 100 MB space in your JASJAR then YESSSS
it really depend on the map you installing, if you installing only one city maos then i am sure u can put the map folder in your JASJAR
other wise u can't
I got UK maps which takes about 101 MB space in my SD CARD well i do no which maps you wanna use
HTH
Regards
Gugi

UK maps on Tomtom are about 96 meg.. I reckon that busts the bank.
It would seem the only way at present is for you to forgo your SDIO GPS and get a bluetooth one.. shame I know but seems the only answer.
I use the Globalsat BT338 and it is excellent.. picked it up for around 80 quid
Incidentally if you are going to get an SD card the best bet is to get a fast one (I have the transcend 80) because, historically, XDA's and Tomtom have a compatability problem with cards they can't access quickly enough.
It ends up with the program freezing etc
good luck
:wink:

UK maps on Tomtom are about 96 meg.. I reckon that busts the bank.
It would seem the only way at present is for you to forgo your SDIO GPS and get a bluetooth one.. shame I know but seems the only answer.
I use the Globalsat BT338 and it is excellent.. picked it up for around 80 quid
Incidentally if you are going to get an SD card the best bet is to get a fast one (I have the transcend 80) because, historically, XDA's and Tomtom have a compatability problem with cards they can't access quickly enough.
It ends up with the program freezing etc
good luck
:wink:

how to speed up TomTom startup ????

I have TomTom 5 running on my MDA Vario, but find that it takes some time be fore the program is active (appears on the screen)
I used to have an Ipaq 2210 and the startup of TT5 was much quicker.
Are there any tweaks to make start up quicker (like with Navigon)???

TomTom isn't fully compatible with WM5 / Vario yet. Best you can do is wait for a patch of new release from TomTom to come to speed things up.
Also try shutting down as many unnecesarry programs, cleaning up double memory entries with check notifications or downloading tools to tweak/speed up your vario like pocketmechanic (i think it's called pocketmachenic, not sure.).

FYI, TomTom 5.21 supports WM5

Mesh said:
TomTom isn't fully compatible with WM5 / Vario yet.
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Stop talking utter, utter, ****e; it is fully compatible with WM5. Look for TomTom 5.21 :roll: :roll: :roll:

It may not be comparing apples with apples but I have the latest versions of TomTom 5 on my MDA Vario and my Palm T3 (Downloaded yesterday). It takes 32 seconds for the TomTom map to appear on my Vario and just 3 seconds on my Palm.
There is a problem somewhere when it takes 10X longer to open on the WM5 Machine than a Palm OS5 machine - surely?

Problem is most likely with TomTom than your PPC. It is slow starting up on my Magician. It would surprise me if TomTom had bothered to optimize the code in any way, the PPC version of the software is notorious in its lack of support and number of bugs.

you all seem to be beating about the bush. the vario has an OMAP processor which is dual core running at 200Mhz. to enable programs to take advantage of the dual core they need to be programmed with the OMAP extensions. Tomtom 5.21 is optimised for Xscale cpu's and that is the reason that tomtom have not listed that tomtom is compatible with the vario.
tomtom will run, but it will run like a dog with three legs, until a version appears that supports the OMAP extensions.
I must say at the moment i am a little dissapointed with this phone as i used my blueangel for tomtom & listening to WMA's using windows media, however the vario will not do this without windows media slowing up and eventually crashing, this is because tomtom is hogging the first core of the omap chip, and windows media is trying to use both cores for playback. i really do hope that tomtom get thier finger out soon as there will be a whole raft of devices with texas instruments OMAP chips soon, this is because of the far less power consumption due to lower clock speeds with little lost in performance.
this is the reason a lot of people are complaining that the vario is slow. it is not its just that most third party programs are not programmed with the OMAP extensions, but in benchmarking for processor performance, the wizard beat the magician that had a far higher clock rate and poor battery life because of it.
so it is a waiting game until developers realise the popularity of the wizard and program with that demographic in mind

I understand the OMAP thing, but it takes just as long on a Universal with xscale.
I read it was because TT is sparking up bluetooth, pairing up and then launching the program automatically, and this process took the time.
It works, and it's great.
Joe

I have no problems with Tomtom... Yes it's slow to launch, but after that it runs very smoothly. That includes playing MP3s at the same time and even running VisualGPSce in background.
Just wait 30 secs... :roll:

Sorry I have got to say that is bull...
I have all three devices and the tmoble compact wm5.
On my exec/m5000 if the bluetooth is off it takes 9 seconds to start up on m500(aka jam) takes 12secs.
Now lets get on to my crappy k jam 26 secs and fraction faster for my t mobile compact 2 both running the slower processor and wm5.
Yes I actually got stop watch out and timed all four saying that tomtom on my n70 pees over all my pdas at a blinding 3 secs. Treo 650 2-3 secs.
So again lets stop beating around the bush the device though great is bloody slow and for al those who claim it is in same speed as execs. You obviously are patient.

those people who are saying it takes just as long on an xscale ppc are talking pants.it is because it is an OMAP processor.
but what is worrying me is that tomtom are now listing the k-jam as bieng compatible. which may mean that tomtom have no intention of optimising it for an omap processor which would be a shame.
but I do have to stress that the kjam is not slow and crappy its just that software isn't optimised for it. when the first ipaq with an xscale processor first appeared. it was not any faster than the 200 mhz ipaq 3630 because software was not optimised for it. it looks like we will have the same kind of wait for the OMAP support

Let's not forget the mini sd card.
Speeds for mini sd are a lot slower than for sd cards.
Not everything falls down to the processor speed.

i heve tt5 on the k-jam and tt5 starts in 9 seconds.
also don't forget if you havr different things enabled in ttt5 it will alter the start speed. eg poi's like speed cams etc.

The initial load time has bugger all to do with the CPU, be it xscale, OMAP or any other flavour. What everybody's forgetting is that you're loading all that data from Flash ROM on the WM 5 devices, not dynamic RAM as on the 2210 and Magician. So there's no wonder it takes 3 times as long. It's simply the price you pay for having non-volatile memory.

wot takes long for me is the tomtom GPS reciever takes ages to find a valid signal..... but apart from that its all good....

Hm, does it take longer on the first time? I have all my maps in my storage card and nothing is happening for like 2 minutes now.
Perhaps it is because I downloaded the maps from a torrent site though.

Still no solution to this ?

I am running a KJam with a Topram brand 2 GB mini-SD memory card and TomTom Version 5.21. Maps are loaded on the memory card. I have no problems loading the smaller maps, Great Britain, US New England, and US Major Roads. However when the US South Central States that is over 80 meg, Tomtom hangs when loading. The only way I can get it to come up is to eject the memory card, then launch Tomtom. Wait for the "I agree" button to appear. Insert the memory card and wait 30 sec to 1 min. Then select the "I agree" button. Once the program is up and loaded it works great.
Is there any way to break up the Tomtom supplied maps that cover multiple states into a state by state map? Especially Texas as it takes over 12 hours to drive across the state it would be fine to change maps when I cross the state line.
Is a Texas map available that works on Version 5.21?

Speeding up TomTom
I found that this will speed up TomTom a bit:
Delete all languages other than your own, in my case I leave the dutch language and deleted all the others:
data00.chk till data14.chk and data16.chk till data28.chk
(data15 is called Eva the Dutch voice I use).
Also remove the vif files having the same numbers as the chk files you removed.
And it will clean up a 41 MB on your sd card

equinenox thats a good tip
Upx compressing of the tom tom.exe will speed up startup as well as save space see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49990&highlight= use the upx ppc link near the bottom of the page.
Overclocking will speed up startup too :wink:

TomTom & High Speed Mini SD cards...

Hi everyone!
Just popped over from the Xda2i board and just wanted to ask..
For KJam is it possible to get high speed mini SD cards in order to make TomTom 5 to work properly and smoothly?
I understand from the posts here that it has to be the 5.21 update to work on the hardware correctly.
Some of you probably already know that the Xda2i needs a hi speed card to allow TT work properly and I was wondering if the same was needed for the K Jam?
If not, does TT 5.21 run nice and smooth on this handset? some of you have said it takes 30 seconds for TT to 'startup' - which isn't so much of a big deal to me, I just want it to perform nicely once running!
Any feedback advice would be appreciated guys!
Cheers!
Dennis! West London UK!!

Slooooow startup, but okay when it's up
My xda mini S and Tomtom bluetooth seem to take ages to pair up. I haven't worked out whether it's best to start the GPS or TT5 first. It can take upwards of 2 minutes! It doesn't seem to like plannin a route whilst it's trying to pair either. Sometimes it can take as little as 30s, but that's the best.
Once it's up it fairly steams ahead though. And I can run a bluetooth headset and phone conversation at the same time, no probs and no probs switching back. oice dialling works a treat too.
I now have a 2Gb mini SD which as soon as I get the data transferred to it (via a new card reader), I'll let you know if/how it goes. No probs with my Moby 1Gb card.

Re: Slooooow startup, but okay when it's up
Have you got it working yet? I'm curious if it's faster now.
davebo said:
I now have a 2Gb mini SD which as soon as I get the data transferred to it (via a new card reader), I'll let you know if/how it goes. No probs with my Moby 1Gb card.
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mine works fine with moby mem 1gb card
let us know on the 2 gb one
slightly slow at booting TT5 though but within limits

TomTom tooo slow

Dose TomTom needs 1-2 minutes starting up for everyone or is it just mine :?:
My S200 is over clocked to 240! the speed overall is acceptable

On my Prophet the TomTom soft with German map takes only 15secs to load, with no other programs loaded before. And my machine is not overclocked.

Depend cold start 45 seconds. Warm start in 15 seconds.

FFVIII said:
Dose TomTom needs 1-2 minutes starting up for everyone or is it just mine :?:
My S200 is over clocked to 240! the speed overall is acceptable
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Fully agree.
for some unexplained reason, TT5 takes a LOOOOOT of time to load.
IMHO it may be related to other programs running, even if you are plenty of memory.
A large contact list delays the mahine a lot, and I've got TT5 to stuck in a certain position up to ONE MINUTE without updating (screen coloured, not a GPS antenna problem)
I just quit using my S200, recover my JAM, and I'm selling my one month old S200.
The Prophet has too many compromises to be ready for prime time. WM5 may be the problem, but I guess the OMAP processor has it share of responsability too. What a pity!
See some other coments on this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54148
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cidriver said:
Depend cold start 45 seconds. Warm start in 15 seconds.
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BTW it's about 5 times as much as a JAM//S100 needs.
And we call that "the S100 next generation"?
:?:

JAM = RAM & WM2003
JAMin = ROM & WM5.0
RAM more fast than ROM. Is IMPOSSIBLE that ROM memories goes more quickly than RAM.
The next generation is Slow, but you can turn off completly without lose data & program.
You Choose!

Strange, my Jamin takes a few seconds less (approx 30) than my Jam (approx 35 - 40) to load TT5. However it is installed on an SD card on both machines and there may be some differences between these cards...
Once running there is no noticable difference, except that the Jam is just a little quicker at plotting routes. However I am very happy with the Jamin and TT5

Sagit said:
JAM = RAM & WM2003
JAMin = ROM & WM5.0
RAM more fast than ROM. Is IMPOSSIBLE that ROM memories goes more quickly than RAM.
The next generation is Slow, but you can turn off completly without lose data & program.
You Choose!
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I dissagree.
Standard ROM may be faster, "Permanent non volatil RAM" is NOT (This is what you have on the Prophet).
Don't be fooled by the acronisms. Read the specs.
I sync with 2 PC, plus regular Outlook backups, etc. In all this years I`ve never lost data just based on dead bateries. However the S200 forced a hard reset on my first day with it! This is a REAL data lost.
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It's not that I don't like the S200 specs, I bought it based on that!, is it very POOR performance what turned my down about it.

Anybody that undertand a little of phisical RAM & ROM know that RAM is faster that ROM.
You are contradiction all teory or I unkonw ROM faster that RAM. It's posible that you rom faster than ram cost 3000€

i prefer I-Go
you can find info @ http://www.i-go.com/
starts pretty fast and the installation is fast and the maps are high from quality and small from size.....
smaller than those from TomTom

I like IGO, but introduce pois from tomtom (velocity radar limits) and another do it slow initialize. And no voice advise from radar pois...
Igo really good and not yet well impemented, i a few weeks change this circunstance, sure!

1:15 after reboot of Prophet
Few seconds less at second start of TomTom after closure of first session.
50 seconds on 252 Mhz after full reboot of Prophet.
Tried on a Wizzard this week. That was noticably faster (did not time it).
Could be because of having a slow SD card. I have a 2 GIG Sandisk MINI in a adapter.
Robin

mine takes 20 secs to completely startup tomtom. I run it at factory speed so without overclocking. I also use a 2gig sandisk mini sd. I use the orange rom. So no speed isues here.
grt,
Ruben

20 seconds here.
Running Tom Tom @ 240mhz but otherwise the JAMin runs at normal speed.
Regards

To all those having a slow loading time, did you install Tom Tom on the SD card or the main memory?
What about those that are not complaining?

@acer175
With 15secs startup after reboot, I have both the TT program and lots of maps to choose from on a Transcend 4GB card. The factory-clocked Prophet handles TT well, period.

Lucas0511 said:
@acer175
With 15secs startup after reboot, I have both the TT program and lots of maps to choose from on a Transcend 4GB card. The factory-clocked Prophet handles TT well, period.
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So how do we get such different results?
Still, my point is how with the same TT5 program and the same (Phisically the same) SD card, can a JAM be way faster than an S200?
:?:
Plain factory configuration, just a few installed NON-RESIDENT programs, ??
Maybe English (WWE) or German ROMs are better developped?
:x

If you loaded TomTom on an SD card, try copying all of your files to a pc. Format the SD card, then copy all the files back. Sort of a defrag method for the SD card.
I was having trouble with TomTom taking too long to load until I did this. Now TT loads in about a quarter of the time as it took before.
Hope it helps.

My experience:
Tomtom 5.21 in ROM + map of Germany(~230MB) on an old Kingston 256MB SD-card
Startup time: ~45secs
Route calculation is at an acceptable speed.
OEM XDA neo (german) ROM, versions see below.
Oh and default clockrate of course.

yoda_143 said:
My experience:
Tomtom 5.21 in ROM + map of Germany(~230MB) on an old Kingston 256MB SD-card
Startup time: ~45secs
Route calculation is at an acceptable speed.
OEM XDA neo (german) ROM, versions see below.
Oh and default clockrate of course.
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Just tested: JAM, 1 Gb Sandisk card, 250 Gb Spain map. Time to load... 8 seconds.
And we call the S200 the Evolution?
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