Push E-mail? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

I thought someone had told me, WM5 supported 'push' e-mail that meant you got your e-mails like text messages, when they happen, not when you chose to download them?
Anyone know what I'm talking about? Anyone know how to get it to work?
Thanks.

This needs to be supported by your email server... there was a lot of talk about Microsoft Exchange supporting 'Direct Push Technology'
See http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/sp2mobility.mspx
or http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/business/5/ for information about the windows mobile software
hope that helps!

Hi!
Here's what you need to get it working using ONLY MS components:
1. Exchange 2003 + Service Pack 2
2. WM5 + Messaging and Security Feature Pack
Everything except the MSFP is available today, it's released to OEM (HTC...) and is probably available to the public jan/feb or march through an OS upgrade.
Cheers!

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Exchange 2003 SP2 is released

Anyone know where to get the "Messaging & Security Feature Pack for Windows Mobile 5.0" from?
Just what I want toooo!!
Wrote about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=168719#168719
Hopefully someone will have a version, dont really wanna wait until a rom update is released.
Am I right in assuming that we need the messaging pack to be able to do direct push email?
Indeed you are, the only plus you get if you are installing sp2 and use it with a wm5 device is the ability to sync Tasks and photos on the contacts through EAS.
I the MSFP baaad...

Direct Push (Messaging Pack)

Ok, anyone know whats the score here, where can we aquire a copy of the feature pack for the phone, its embarracing when my mate on his P900 can use road sync connected to use exchange direct push. I bought Microsoft as I needed this feature, no Symbian get it fist, this is wrong.. so wrong :¬(
Either I am psychic or I remember reading a post identical to this one earlier.
It will arrive when it arrives - i hate waiting too but i'd rather wait until it is released and done right than possibly bodge a patch of it somewhere (if indeed a patch exists anywhere).
You can always use Exchange 2003 AUTD (Always Up To Date) feature. It will SMS your phone and force a sync to take place. It's almost as fast as push and works well. The only drawback is that you get charged for texts, but if you have unlimited texts then it doesn't matter.
I too am awaiting the MSFP too though, but with AUTD I'm happy. Have been using it since Exchange 2003 came out. Works well for me.
AUTD is too expensive for me - costs me 10p per message received
Mid march for AKU 2 at current estimations

mail2web changing to pay service 5/1

I just wanted to make sure everyone knows what's going on, I just received this e-mail from mail2web:
Dear mail2web LIVE Customer,
We have some very important changes that will affect your account that
we want to let you know about. We're very glad that you've found your
mail2web LIVE account useful. It has always been our intention to
provide high quality and affordable Exchange solutions, and we have done
our best to keep the mail2web LIVE service free over the years. However
due to our planned upgrade to Exchange 2007 and to changes in our
licensing agreements with Microsoft, there will be some changes to your
service.
If you no longer want to keep your account, do nothing and it will be
cancelled on May 1, 2009. If you want to keep your account, please read
on...
*** Choose Your New Plan ***
If you want to keep your account active, you will be required to log
into the Control Panel (https://support.myhosting.com/) before May 1,
2009 and choose the new plan you would like to upgrade to. Here are the
available options:
1. Our new free service is called mail2web LIVE Basic and includes an
ad-free Outlook Web Access 2007. Please note that the ActiveSync and
BlackBerry services are not supported with mail2web LIVE Basic.
2. The new Exchange 2007 version of mail2web LIVE will be available for
$4.95/month and will include Outlook Web Access 2007, ActiveSync, POP3,
IMAP4 and SMTP Service and more. We are also offering a 60-Day Free
Trial of this service that includes ActiveSync, allowing you to try out
the new platform before you commit to buying!
3. Our new mail2web LIVE Pro service will provide full access and
include all the mail2web LIVE features plus a free copy of Outlook 2007
or Entourage 2008 as well as the MAPI access and RPC over HTTPS service
required to configure the account in Outlook. The new mail2web LIVE Pro
service is available for $9.95/month and we are offering a 60-Day Free
Trial with full functionality!
*** Update Your Settings ***
Before you choose your migration options and your account is scheduled
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will be changing to:
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You can start using this right away! After your migration is complete
the old address may not work, so please update your bookmarks or
favorites now. And if you are using ActiveSync or have configured your
account in your iPhone, Windows Mobile device or on any other device
that supports ActiveSync or RoadSync, we suggest updating your settings
immediately:
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address and password.
2. Under "Active Free Services" click on "mail2web LIVE".
3. Click "GO" to the right of the account you want to access.
4. Click on "Migration Instructions". Here you will find instructions
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*** Why are you discontinuing FREE ActiveSync? ***
Our free mail2web LIVE service with ActiveSync based on Microsoft
Exchange 2003 was a very popular service, and we're glad that we were
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customers, and in order to do that the best way is to upgrade our
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new mail2web LIVE service.
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We certainly hope you will! We appreciate that you've found the service
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users that need it. And for users who need ActiveSync, our hope is that
you find the monthly fee to be satisfactory along with all the service
improvements that come with Exchange 2007.
*** Why do I have to upgrade if I'm happy with my current service? ***
Unfortunately, due to a number of changes we are unable to maintain any
existing users on our Exchange 2003 platform. We apologize for any
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Personally, I rely on mail2web to push my work e-mail to my phone, and have no intention of paying $5/mo (unless the company wants to pay for it). I'm sure I'm not the only one using it for this purpose and wanted to make sure those who do are aware of this impending change.
thanks for the headsup! i am actually surprised that i haven't received that email myself... or maybe i just haven't checked hmm...
anyway, i too use mail2web for pushing my gmail onto my wm phone and have been happy with it for a good while now; shame that they're introducing a fee but then again i suppose 5$ a mo isn't really too much and i have no issues with commiting to that if that's the only option i have...
unless someone knows a decent free exchange solution that i could use instead? any ideas?
Again I have not yet received the email.
If it's purely email you are looking for then try Seven Beta, they pick up gmail quite nicely as well as the majority of other email accounts.
Think I may have to sign up to the basic package as i have started to use the mail2web address for many things.
jhw549 said:
I just wanted to make sure everyone knows what's going on, I just received this e-mail from mail2web:
Personally, I rely on mail2web to push my work e-mail to my phone, and have no intention of paying $5/mo (unless the company wants to pay for it). I'm sure I'm not the only one using it for this purpose and wanted to make sure those who do are aware of this impending change.
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you might want to look in to seven beta it gives the option to push your work email might have to install some stuff on your actual work system if you can but it works pretty well
www.community.seven.com along with giving you access to global contacts and also accessing your calendar i don't use those features but the email works and pushes fast i'm using it on a edge connection and get them within the same minute of them being sent on my phone using seven
mikebem said:
thanks for the headsup! i am actually surprised that i haven't received that email myself... or maybe i just haven't checked hmm...
anyway, i too use mail2web for pushing my gmail onto my wm phone and have been happy with it for a good while now; shame that they're introducing a fee but then again i suppose 5$ a mo isn't really too much and i have no issues with commiting to that if that's the only option i have...
unless someone knows a decent free exchange solution that i could use instead? any ideas?
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i just got the email today i had got a heads up on ppcgeeks but didn't think it was tru
i'm also interested in seeing if there is another activesync solution out there that's free and as function as mail2web if not i'll probably open up a new gmail account and use that just for voicemail emails from youmail, contacts and calendar events
deedee said:
Again I have not yet received the email.
If it's purely email you are looking for then try Seven Beta, they pick up gmail quite nicely as well as the majority of other email accounts.
Think I may have to sign up to the basic package as i have started to use the mail2web address for many things.
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you could probably make a gmail account and set it up to use your mail2web account using the alias feature
Keland44 said:
you could probably make a gmail account and set it up to use your mail2web account using the alias feature
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i already use Seven Beta to push gmail and a couple of others, it's the OTA calendar/contacts/tasks i like from mail2web.
deedee said:
i already use Seven Beta to push gmail and a couple of others, it's the OTA calendar/contacts/tasks i like from mail2web.
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yea same here it's easier to get appoints me through outlook and let contacts sync up wasn't there somebody on the boards that hard there own server? i think for like 5 bucks a year or something like that or like 25 for the whole year i remember somebody one had a server though
I received the email 15 days ago and I did the upgrade.
I'm now testing the 60-day free trial: everything works well and finally you view the mail in html
Even though I do not have intention to pay to read mail, and I hope that in these 2 months google implements its Sync with the email and I'llmove smoothly to that.
As i said above, try Seven Beta, it works for me for my non mail2web mail. They say it will do Google contacts and calendar as well but i have yet to try it.
I've also received this email and this troubles me cause I use Mail2web excessively to sync my contacts.
Obviously I"m using the free version cause Who Wants to pay for email ?
If there is no other alternative I"ll just have to setup my own Server.. this is really disappointing. I liked there services And them saying that this Services are not available free cause of Licensing is lame and not tru

Updated to 2.1, and still can't send email!!!

This is getting frustrating. I rooted my hero and installed the Damagecontrol 2.0.8.1 ROM specifically because I figured that 2.1 fixes the issue with sending mail via Exchange. The phone still does not send mail. It at least gives an error message, but the message is completely devoid of any real info.
Does anyone have any way to get the phone to send email? I can't believe that this has not been fixed in a whole year.
-Randy
Did a search on this forums only and came up with 7 threads.
Mail Exchange
I didn't read any as I don't use exchange.
But you might want to start there.
If that isn't enough, try search the whole of CDMA.
Thanks,
Bubba.
P.S. might try posting in Damagecontrol dev thread also.
None of those threads mention anything about the sending issue.
I can't believe no one else is using exchange sync.
-Randy
zesta said:
None of those threads mention anything about the sending issue.
I can't believe no one else is using exchange sync.
-Randy
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I am using exchange on Fresh 2.0d with no issues. My exchange server is running exchange 2003.
I have mail and contacts sync'd through exchange.
I'm having the same issue on my Exchange server. It has to do with plain text, if you reply to an email I bet it works. You're probably running something like Mail Marshal which is blocking the email. After you've sent a new email check the sent on your Outlook, and you'll see it's there. It's this leak because it worked fine for me on 1.5
It has to be your specific exchange server setup. I'm using Exchange Server 2007 via ExchangeMyMail and no issues.
I use both a 2003 server and a 2007 server and I have no issues sending or anything. Biggest issue I have is that GAL doesn't come to the phone, I have to search to find names instead of browsing a list.
I agree it has to be your particular setting. Have you tried checking/unchecking the ssl connection option? I think I recall reading that you could receive but not send depending on that option and how your server ia setup.
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I have had no problems with the 1.5 or 2.1 software in connecting to my exchange server. What does your mail administrator say? They could easily pull the server log files to see what is going on.
I am the mail administrator
Additional research shows that it is a problem specifically with HTC devices. They are not properly implementing the protocol.
The app is setting the "Content-Transfer-Encoding" to "utf-8" which is invalid.
My mail server is Zimbra 6.x, which uses the Exchange 2003 protocols. My guess is that the true Microsoft servers either have specific support for the non-compliant HTC devices, or just happen to work because Microsoft isn't closely following their own standards (which happens more than one would think).
Looks like there is an unofficial patch to work around this specific issue.
Maybe some enterprising person can fix HTC's buggy app for them and include it in a custom ROM. I really like the HTC mail app otherwise.
-Randy
zesta said:
I am the mail administrator
Additional research shows that it is a problem specifically with HTC devices. They are not properly implementing the protocol.
The app is setting the "Content-Transfer-Encoding" to "utf-8" which is invalid.
My mail server is Zimbra 6.x, which uses the Exchange 2003 protocols. My guess is that the true Microsoft servers either have specific support for the non-compliant HTC devices, or just happen to work because Microsoft isn't closely following their own standards (which happens more than one would think).
Looks like there is an unofficial patch to work around this specific issue.
Maybe some enterprising person can fix HTC's buggy app for them and include it in a custom ROM. I really like the HTC mail app otherwise.
-Randy
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do you have access to this unofficial patch. I'd like to try it out.
From what I've learned, this isn't specific to HTC, it's an Android thing. There was only partial support for security policies in 1.5 and now more complete support in 2.1. I've been successfully sending/receiving Exchange emails, contacts, and calendar items (sending and accepting) in both 1.5 and 2.1.
In 1.5 I had to have the Exchange admin change the mobile device support setting to allow all devices. In 2.1 he was able to change it back and my Hero then enforced a security policy that made me enter a PIN every time I unlocked my phone.
There were some general Android-specific issues before, but this is specific to HTC's broken mail application.
djorijun said:
do you have access to this unofficial patch. I'd like to try it out.
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http://bugzilla.zimbra.com/show_bug.cgi?id=41145
All of the info and the patched file is there.
I am the Exchange 2007 admin here and I've never had an issue with my phone, on 1.5 or on 2.1 now. Both Damage's and the Fresh roms work fine to sync mail, contacts, and calendar items. I can send and receive just fine.
The global address list will not show up as a list, you will always have to search. That's the way it is implemented in OWA.
I would think that if you are not using Exchange Server, but someone else's implementation, it's not HTC that's at fault... It's more than likely the faulty implementation of the exchange clone.
CodeMonk said:
I am the Exchange 2007 admin here and I've never had an issue with my phone, on 1.5 or on 2.1 now. Both Damage's and the Fresh roms work fine to sync mail, contacts, and calendar items. I can send and receive just fine.
The global address list will not show up as a list, you will always have to search. That's the way it is implemented in OWA.
I would think that if you are not using Exchange Server, but someone else's implementation, it's not HTC that's at fault... It's more than likely the faulty implementation of the exchange clone.
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I am using an Exchange Server that patch above isn't something I can use. I can receive emails, reply and forward but here's the zinger. when I compose it sends and the program known as mail marshal see's the email and stops it from sending. But when I go to my computer look in the sent folder the email shows up immediately. We've set Mail marshal to low and apparently the issue is with the Mail Format, and since I'm on 2003 the mail app doesn't let me change this option. I used Touchdown to see if this was the case, and BINGO I was able to compose without issue. Now I don't like the functionality of touchdown very much so I refuse to use it. Do you guys know of a workaround to change the mail format that's grayed out in the settings?
HTC's implementation is obviously wrong, as indicated by the details that have already been listed.
It looks like Exchange Server is either not checking for valid message headers (which doesn't surprise me), or is specifically allowing the invalid Content-Transfer-Encoding header.
zesta said:
HTC's implementation is obviously wrong, as indicated by the details that have already been listed.
It looks like Exchange Server is either not checking for valid message headers (which doesn't surprise me), or is specifically allowing the invalid Content-Transfer-Encoding header.
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I see a different error, but my error is with MailMarshal. Does anyone deal with MailMarshal?
I ran into this issue at work with MailMarshal. You need to add an exception into MailMarshal to allow incorrect types through.
I did this a few months ago so I don't remember off the top of my head exactly where the change was made. (Not at work right now)
I'll let you know if I remember.
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I see a different error, but my error is with MailMarshal. Does anyone deal with MailMarshal?
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This is what I had to do to get it working.
sorry...can't post links yet.
Go to mailmarshal site: m86security dot com
click on support and search for Q10166.
Read that article, it should help if you want to implement it.
yadnom said:
This is what I had to do to get it working.
sorry...can't post links yet.
Go to mailmarshal site: m86security dot com
click on support and search for Q10166.
Read that article, it should help if you want to implement it.
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Thanks I'll do this when I get to work tomorrow.

[Q] Direct Push

I absolutely love my focus with WP7, but my new office only supports direct push and they wont allow this hotmail connector thing.
Are there any plans to include this support in the upcoming release. I hate the idea of having to give up my windows phone because it wont support exchange like most other phones.
mmurray21 said:
I absolutely love my focus with WP7, but my new office only supports direct push and they wont allow this hotmail connector thing.
Are there any plans to include this support in the upcoming release. I hate the idea of having to give up my windows phone because it wont support exchange like most other phones.
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It does support exchange activesync. In fact it is THE only push email technology the phone supports (both Hotmail and Gmail use EAS).
thanks for the reply. I take it this means, I shouldn't expect a change and need to order a new phone.
mmurray21 said:
thanks for the reply. I take it this means, I shouldn't expect a change and need to order a new phone.
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That means your Focus currently already supports push email from your Exchange server. What you need is to talk to you IT admin about how to configure it (you will need to connect to an external exchange server address that is accessible via internet, not your desktop Outlook) and if you are allowed to do so (some companies add additional permission policy to limit the access). A new phone doesn't solve you any thing. EAS is not a new technology. It's been here about 5 years since old Windows Mobile 5.0.
So what specifically do i need to request since the current setup works with WM 6.5, iphone, and android.
There is nothing special need to be done on Focus. Exchange Active Sync is the same as on WM. iPhone or Android. The only thing that WP7 lacks, from what I read, is email encryption. If your company requires email encryption policy, it will not work. But again, Android never really supports email encryption either. So, if you have Android working (not using 3rd party software like TouchDown), you should be fine.
What exactly is your problem with your Exchange Sync. Outlook Hotmail connector has nothing to do with it. It is only required if you want to sync your non-Exchange Outlook calendar and contacts to hotmail.
Actually, I have only tried it with WM 6.5 and iPhone. Email does require encryption. When I try to add the settings to the focus it just says it outlook account info is incorrect. I had heard 3rd hand that people were able to get android going so thanks for the heads up. I was about to order an atrix.
I guess iPhone 4 is my only real option...
I'm willing to bet you just have the settings incorrect and your focus will work perfectly.
I work for Microsoft and I've had WM5, WM6.5, all of the iphones, and now a Samsung Focus all connected to corporate restricted exchange.
Our corporate policies are very strong, and yet our phones work fine. I can't read an encrypted message on the phone (but no phone other than the old WM can do that), but as far as connecting and downloading mail I think WP7 does it best. The only feature I believe is currently missing is threaded view, which I would assume is coming at some point.
My WP7 phone is currently connected to two separate exchange servers (MS corp, and outlook.com, which is similar to hotmail). So it's all possible.
What is it you're trying to do, and what's not working? Hotmail should work 100% since I believe they've rolled out direct exchange support for all accounts.
Thanks for helping.... Email works fine with hotmail, yahoo, and gmail. Its only when I try my outlook exchange mail that I have any issues. I have tried all of the possible permutations for setup.
I am not the only one with this problem
answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-sync/does-windows-phone-7-sync-to-outlook/48ae2598-f773-4b4c-87cc-54d8c5c012d2
pocketnow.com/windows-phone/how-to-sync-windows-phone-7-with-outlook
They both seem to point out the deficiency with the phone.
So you have ecncrypted corporate email and dont have a problem?
You've lost me a little bit. Which are you trying to sync to Outlook (the desktop application), or Exchange (the mail server system)?
If you're trying to sync to Outlook, then i think you're out of luck. But, if you're trying to sync to Exchange (which is what 90% of people will have Outlook sync to), then it should work. I read both of the articles you linked, and they refer to Outlook data syncing, not to exchange. At least from what I gathered.
The phone can sync any mails with exchange, but there are two limitations. Specific private encrypted mails can't currently be read on any phone I believe (I think WM6.5 was the last OS to support them), and the WP7 device doesn't support full OS and storage encryption. It is possible for an Exchange admin to require that setting, although it's not common. A future release should include device encryption.
So, if you have a requirement on the second, then it sounds like WP7 won't current work for you. But, if it's not device encryption that you're looking for, then it sounds like WP7 should work fine.
Thanks for your help. I am trying to synch with exchange. I'll keep trying to configure it. I've asked our IT guys for help, but they have never even seen a phone with 7.
When I setup the account, there is a setting for logs. Do you happen to know where those end up and how I might get to them?
I don't know where the logging goes, but perhaps the error message your getting can be helpful?
I ran across this page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...exchange/7ccd6098-f9b5-44c7-84c6-2fd9e6a097f9
Which appears to hit some of the issues you're facing, and might provide some validation to the settings you're using.
Turns out your hunches were right, after escalating the issue for a week, the IT team came back and said "ooops" we forgot to add you to the list.
I put in the settings and everything works great. Thanks for challanging my assumption.

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