Hi!
I've just received XDA TRION- from o2 UK. My missus is really happy with this phone (so am I) but there is one small SUB PIXEL dead (always green)- left, upper corner which is quite annoying when watching films and doing other stuff. Should I send it back (under warranty or DOA) or leave it as it is?
O2 UK.
Cheers
Chris
Doubt that they will allow a replacement/refund due to a single stuck pixel. Most companies have a minimum number of defective pixels on TFT display before accepting warranty repairs/replacements.
For example the large computer company I work for specifies that at least eight pixels must be stuck on a 17 inch monitor and these must be in areas that makes the pixels "stick out" (i.e. close to the center).
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside...
Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..
So, please share your experiences!
/Ampi
Every HTC phone I have encountered is worthless in direct sunlight. The only PPC I have seen that is semi-decent is the Treo 750 and that is far from perfect.
I would live to put some window tint or mirror tint on a screen protector and see if that works better.
It's really a royal pain to use it under direct sun light - combined with the fact that the dialpad lacks both visibility and tactile...
Would help if you find a shade above you or shield the phone with your body from the sunlight...
same problem with laptops
and even old monitors using crt
But in the "pdadb.net" says: Display Type:color transflective TFT.
It means that this display should reflect sunlight, more or less, but it has to.
Or HTC tells us lie ?
The Trinity is crap in sunlight and even outside on bright overcast days.
You cant even shade it outside and have to get your self inside somewhere with low light levels.
It is very much not a summer phone, and really needs to be avoided if you spend a lot of time outside and need to use the phone
Yes, the P3600 is absolutely useless in the sunshine, I think it's the only defect of Trinity.
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.
nimnull said:
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.
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Huh? I said on top that every HTC phone is worthless in sunlight, except for the 750.
ampi said:
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside...
Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..
So, please share your experiences!
/Ampi
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no chance also i use exim ultra protect useless...with should reduce the reflections.. no effect :-(
OK.
If we start talk about sunlight and displays - what is the best. I tested Asus 525 - it is like SE 750 (but not like Nokia 6233 or E61 - super) for ex. What else - E-ten ?
If someone knows - tell us please.
IMO all colour screen devices are rubbish in bright sunlight. By far the best device for bright sunshine is the old mono chrome device. Like the psion 5mx. Which is far better in bright sunshine than in low light. But it is a move backwards - one I doubt you will want to make!
i think that all you saying is true.... butttt one day i was really mad about the useless screen.. put it in the brighter level and now its ok!
Perfect and useful working solution
Gentlemen,
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!
Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50
iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:
anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch
Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.
This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:
JAM
JAMin
K-Jam
It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:
S100
S200
9100
It is also compatible with the following HTC models:
TyTN
P3300
P3600
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd
Steven2420 said:
Gentlemen,
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!
Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50
iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:
anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch
Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.
This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:
JAM
JAMin
K-Jam
It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:
S100
S200
9100
It is also compatible with the following HTC models:
TyTN
P3300
P3600
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd
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I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.
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maevro said:
I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.
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I respect your thoughts my friend. Each person sees a different benefit from different items! The important thing is....ENJOY YOUR TRINITY!!!!!
I have tried 3 different screeen protectors and they do not make any difference to daylight.
AFAIK, there is no product available which will help - the manufacturers do all they can with regards to coatings etc to aid visibility and build these onto the display.
All the screen protectors do is ...... protect the screen from scratches.
Adding any extra cover to the screen will by definition, reduce visibility and not increase it.
OLED or OPLED displays may have better characteristics for daylight, but the current display technology is the problem.
Some HP and Fujitsu-Siemens PDAs have way better screens
Hi all!
I am the happy user of a Trinity, and I subscribe to the opinion that in sunlight, the screen is bad. Actually, even at max brightness, it is almost black, unusable.
I can testify that there are better screens though: I had an HP 6340 (PDA-phone) before the Trinity, and its screen WAS transreflective. Actually, the brighter the sun was, the more readable the screen became (not under any angle, but most of the time). Now that I donated it to a colleague, when I see it sometimes, I admire its large and beautiful screen. I also played with my boss' Fujitsu-Siemens 720 (I think), and it is also very visible. By the way, the FS's screen is also VGA, looks way better. The Trinity's screen does not even compare, especially because the tapping also requires more force on the Trinity.
It is a phone, used outside, for crying out loud! Why can't they buy from the same manufacturer as HP does?
However, beside the poor screen and the peeling of the black paint, there is no better convergence device than the Trinity, in my opinion. Oh, and the RAM could be a tad more, I might add.
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time when I golf. No complaints here. I mapped VJLumosIII it to a button to switch to max brightness instantly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279365&highlight=vjlumosiii
Hi guys,
Ok so on my HD2 there are some wierd blotches permenantly on my screen. Don't get all hilarious and say they are finger prints
They are about and inch up from the bottom and are brighter than the rest of the screen. They show up best when the screen is white like when writing an email, texts, documents etc. But they are there all the time. Two big blotches brighter than the rest of the screen.
Is this reason to call in the pros to take a look? It has to be something wrong with the device.
BTW...never dropped it, pressed the screen too hard etc, very well looked after.
ANY ADVICE???
Yea I have this too, must be from an impact with the screen somehow surely?
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Redeyedrichard said:
Hi guys,
Ok so on my HD2 there are some wierd blotches permenantly on my screen. Don't get all hilarious and say they are finger prints
They are about and inch up from the bottom and are brighter than the rest of the screen. They show up best when the screen is white like when writing an email, texts, documents etc. But they are there all the time. Two big blotches brighter than the rest of the screen.
Is this reason to call in the pros to take a look? It has to be something wrong with the device.
BTW...never dropped it, pressed the screen too hard etc, very well looked after.
ANY ADVICE???
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i think this is a recognized defect and not caused by mishandling of the phone.
i've personally seen these blotches on 2 hd2s (and read about others). the first i bought on ebay and returned to the seller as he had not disclosed them but the second i sent back to htc and they replaced the screen under warranty. the unbranded version of the hd2 has a 2 year transferable warranty and you don't even need a sales invoice. they also pay carriage both ways and usually turn repairs around in 7 working days (altho it's £12 to get it back if they decide that the defect isn't covered by the guarantee).
i'd send yours back.
how/who did you send to in HTC - do you have a link?
Many thanks
Mine developed a white 'spot' most visible when on a white page. I went to the htc website and looked up service/repair. They needed an invoice (I printed a paypal page) and offered to collect my phone, or said I could send in myself. I sent in to speed up the process -cost a couple pound. They replaced the screen and returned without charge. Only took around 5 days to turn it around. Great service in my opinion.
I bought a second-hand HD2 off eBay which to all intents and purposes is in excellent condition, however it has lighter blotch where the backlight is brighter than the rest of the display. This is very clear on white backgrounds and I find it quite annoying.
Tomorrow I am getting the HD2 picked up for a (hopefully) warranty repair; I was hoping for some feedback from the good people on here as to their experience with the phone as I have FIVE friends with HD2s, ALL of whom have a lighter blotch on their display, some worse than others.
This makes me think that it CAN'T be an incredibly rare phenomenon for this device.
I have owned a number of capacitive screened devices and have never seen this on any other handset. Even battered up old iPhone 2gs don't seem to have this problem.
I'm a bit concerned about the screen developing a spot again; I'm also concerned that HTC will try to charge me for the repair....
Anyone got any stories to tell about their screens developing blotchy patches and how HTC responded? And has anyone owned a HD2 since launch that STILL has a perfect screen?
Just be interested to know
Mine has 3 spots showing when on a white back ground but I choose to ignore them. Also sometime my whole screen goes white like a negative photo but I just reboot and the screen goes back to how it should.
I have them since i dropped it and the top corner of my screen got damaged. my gf does not have them at all!
No problems with screen here...purchased dec '09
I contacted HTC (I purchased my phone off ebay) been told it's still under warranty they are collecting tomorrow and said it would be 10 days until I get my repair back
I don't have this problem, but i always keep it in the leather condom when not using it. I did have the negative looking screen once but that never happened again. I think as long as you are gentle with it after it's repaired then it shouldn't happen again.
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leoni1980 said:
I bought a second-hand HD2 off eBay which to all intents and purposes is in excellent condition, however it has lighter blotch where the backlight is brighter than the rest of the display. This is very clear on white backgrounds and I find it quite annoying.
Tomorrow I am getting the HD2 picked up for a (hopefully) warranty repair; I was hoping for some feedback from the good people on here as to their experience with the phone as I have FIVE friends with HD2s, ALL of whom have a lighter blotch on their display, some worse than others.
This makes me think that it CAN'T be an incredibly rare phenomenon for this device.
I have owned a number of capacitive screened devices and have never seen this on any other handset. Even battered up old iPhone 2gs don't seem to have this problem.
I'm a bit concerned about the screen developing a spot again; I'm also concerned that HTC will try to charge me for the repair....
Anyone got any stories to tell about their screens developing blotchy patches and how HTC responded? And has anyone owned a HD2 since launch that STILL has a perfect screen?
Just be interested to know
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A picture of the screen would really help...
Had that problem with my first HD2(bought it the first day it was available at expansys). I sent it on warranty and they have replaced few things(including mainboard, lcd and touchscreen).
I have a new one as well and this problem is not present.
Hi,
Dropping my phone was the worst thing that could happen with my phone.
I found someone who would do the screen replacement and after nearly two months he finally returned the phone two me.
At first glance it seemed ok but closer inspection have shown me that:
- the panel used was JDI instead of LGD so a japanese panel instead of the 'original' LG
- serious screen bleed contouring the whole screen
- highlights on the screen, points in the screen where I can clearly see the backlight being brighter than everywhere else
- luminosity is lower than the original.
The last two points are very annoying. I compared my phone with a phone displayed in a shop and I see that the screen on the shop's phone is brighter that mine, even without adaptive brightness and @ 100% luminosity.
Could this be due to different panel manufacturer (JDI instead of LGD)?
The screen bleed could be due to the screen being badly glued but I am not sure...
But the bright speckels are annoying also. In bright areas this is very much noticable, a white picture shows two small areas brighter which indicates to me that the back of the panel has something behind that 'pushes', hard to explain.
Anybody had similar issues or had his screen repaired?
You can see my issues in the attached screenshots...
laboratik said:
Hi,
Dropping my phone was the worst thing that could happen with my phone.
I found someone who would do the screen replacement and after nearly two months he finally returned the phone two me.
At first glance it seemed ok but closer inspection have shown me that:
- the panel used was JDI instead of LGD so a japanese panel instead of the 'original' LG
- serious screen bleed contouring the whole screen
- highlights on the screen, points in the screen where I can clearly see the backlight being brighter than everywhere else
- luminosity is lower than the original.
The last two points are very annoying. I compared my phone with a phone displayed in a shop and I see that the screen on the shop's phone is brighter that mine, even without adaptive brightness and @ 100% luminosity.
Could this be due to different panel manufacturer (JDI instead of LGD)?
The screen bleed could be due to the screen being badly glued but I am not sure...
But the bright speckels are annoying also. In bright areas this is very much noticable, a white picture shows two small areas brighter which indicates to me that the back of the panel has something behind that 'pushes', hard to explain.
Anybody had similar issues or had his screen repaired?
You can see my issues in the attached screenshots...
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I don't think your issues is the panel type, i replaced mine and got a JDI from eBay. I don't notice any difference from my old one, which was not JDI. I would say you just got a poor screen. Not the fault of the installer either, i would try to get hold of the screen seller, or just accept the loss and replace it again.
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scottdanpor said:
I don't think your issues is the panel type, i replaced mine and got a JDI from eBay. I don't notice any difference from my old one, which was not JDI. I would say you just got a poor screen. Not the fault of the installer either, i would try to get hold of the screen seller, or just accept the loss and replace it again.
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I can agree that the panel type is not the culprit but the screen bleed is definitely the installers fault.
I am not very happy replacing it again as the total cost would mean that I could have bought a new phone for the same price...
My feeling is that the seller of the screen has delivered a used screen and damaged the silver back of the panel by removing it from the old device (the bright highlights could be from a prying tool used while recuperating the screen.). Too bad , lesson learned = do not drop the phone as the screen shatters very easily and when repairing, find a reliable repairsman...
Accept the loss seems to be the only option in this case...
Maybe I will have to disassemble/assemble the phone myself and do with with extra love and care and sense of detail....
laboratik said:
I can agree that the panel type is not the culprit but the screen bleed is definitely the installers fault.
I am not very happy replacing it again as the total cost would mean that I could have bought a new phone for the same price...
My feeling is that the seller of the screen has delivered a used screen and damaged the silver back of the panel by removing it from the old device (the bright highlights could be from a prying tool used while recuperating the screen.). Too bad , lesson learned = do not drop the phone as the screen shatters very easily and when repairing, find a reliable repairsman...
Accept the loss seems to be the only option in this case...
Maybe I will have to disassemble/assemble the phone myself and do with with extra love and care and sense of detail....
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Since the digitizer comes glued to the glass I'm more inclined to blame the screen/seller than the installer. But you know the saying... "If you want it done right...". All the best on getting it sorted and working properly.