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Any Mac users with experience of PocketMac to sync XDA2/Mac?

Has anyone used an XDA2 with Mac OS X.3 (Panther)?
I use a Powerbook laptop and want to sync with my XDA2 without troubling the PC that I bought for the kids (with some chagrin, it must be said!)
There is a program called PocketMac that has received some good reviews - which will, apparently, allow the XDA2 (any Pocket PC) to sync with Mac (iCal, Address Book etc.), which, in turn, sync with my iDisk. Serious back up here (laptop stolen three years ago.
Anyway, my XDA2 arrives tomorrow and I wanted to know if there are any Mac Users who have some experience and, hopefully, some tips for me.
I bought an XDA2 by the way, because they look good and the functionality is clearly better than previous Palm/Symbian devices. The great reviews I have seen posted on various internet sites seem to suggest I made the right choice.
Thanks in anticipation of assistance from users' experience.

pocketmac 3.3 works perfectly - xda2 (i was using myssingsync before but it was not working fine as pocketmac is doing now)
if you need help your welcome
ciao
marco

PocketMac 3.3 works fine for me too (PowerBook G4 w/Panther). You can't install Pocket PC software via Mac -- you'll have to "rent" a Windows PC for that, unless you have the CAB files. Some say that Virtual PC would take you around this problem, I'm still working on it... Will let you know.
Also wanted to try MissingSync - the one Apple suggests - but no luck there!
Happy MacKing, and let me/us know your experience!

New experience of Mac and XDA2
I am impressed - syncs faultlessly.
Installed the Mac look provided by Pocketmac as part of the PM 3.3 software bundle.
However, does anyone know how to edit the skins in the XDA as installing an Apple logo appeals?

Apple Skins
sorry - found it in the Pocketmac bundle - it just needed turning on in the XDA2.

guys, where to find trial version of PockeMac or Missing Sync?
I am new in MAC world and seems no trial versions here
How i would know which one is working for me???
Please help!!!
Paul

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/productivity_tools/pocketmacpro.html
there is a demo
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12331
and here
dont fear google it's your friend

Thank you Rudegar,
I actually using google very much... but kind of "slowed" about it type demo in it

PocketMac vs. Missing sync
Both programs have their quirks, but since I have a combination of chinese/english names in my address book, missing sync it is. I tried pocket mac and it hoses up unicode quite badly.

PocketMac XDA2 powerbook
I don't believe you. It doesn't work AT ALL. garbled text all over iCal, phone numbers in crap order, no iCal events getting to XDA. No Bluetooth sync...Thanks for your recommendation but PocketMac sucks. I really want to know how to make this work

I just threw away the copy of Pocketmac I had bought and went and got Missing Sync. MUCH better. Been using it over a year now. (as you can see from the post dates)

PBG4+PocketMac+MDAII=0
I cannot even get pocketmacpro demo to "see" my MDA even though its paired as a BT device with my PBG4.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks

eeeh
I'm talking with PocketMac support.
I want to buy Pocketmac Pro 3, but I cannot pay by credit card from
Poland. What should I do?
I used the Mark/Space Missing Sync for Pocket PC application
for synchronising. I bought it via Internet and I am very happy with it.
Simple and clear
I have big problem with internet :?
I often use PowerBook out of work in places where I do not have
access to Internet.
Before I had the Nokia 6310i mobile phone and via this telephone
I could connect to Internet (wireless connection
in every place within GSM network range). Gprs Nokia modem operated
without any problems, and I could connect with the computer
via bluetooth without any problem. I activatedon the phone I could
establish connection.
Unfortunately, Qtek 2020 is a more complex appliance, but has no
such option. In Pocket PC I have Internet (GPRS connect), but not
in the computer
I asked how to solve this problem on numerous forums: Apple and
xda-developers-Forum. Nobody could give me a satisfactory answer.
Please Help Masters

answering machine software???

hi guys, i couldnt help noticing that when i previously used nokia 6600 (symbian s60) they had few 3rd party that is able to make use of their audio mechanism during callls. for example, one software can make selected background noise for opposite callers so they think that u are at a train station for example when infact u r silently at home. another software is an on board answering machine, which after the phone rang for a few times it answer the fonecall with your automated recorded voice and recorded a msg left by the caller on the fone. this is convenient for us so we dont need to call back our voicemail and reduce cost as well as some telco charge to use their voicemail service. im surprised these kind of software have not came out for our windows mobile device when its already available for symbian. im sure it shouldnt be that hard to make it. any coder expert wanna give it a go??

cutefox, what kind of searches have you made for this software on this board? Did you have much luck?
V

i already tried commercial such as handango and pocket gear.. even freeware sites also no luck.. jus dun understand why no 1 made one yet.. shouldnt b too hard to make one.. it will be a big market to sell such a software for our ppc phone device now that more devices is coming out..

Cutefox: have you tried searching this board? Let me save you the effort, but it'll be a good idea next time. It's not generally considered possible, at least on WM2003 devices because of both hardware and software limitations. It's not that no one has thought of it before: someone seems to think of it approximately every two days... but there are many many threads on this issue.
V

Look at what I said here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9761
That sums up why we can't do it using the api's available to us now. The funny thing is the way bluetooth sends the audio stream to a headset. Obviously the data is getting there somehow but I suspect it is not (directly) via windows. Dose anyone know if the radio hardware for bluetooth is connected to the radio hardware for the phone? My guess is that if you could write a program that windows "sees" as a headset then you could get the audio that way. But thats a problem in itself.
I would love this kind of program myself. How is it that such usefull devices with so many capeabilities can be kept secret from us. We can't use the camera, we can't get the cell id on towers, we can't programatically controll the partnerships in blutooth, we cant get the audio stream of our own phone, the events on some ppc's that control brightness are secret..... the list goes on. This kind of #@!!$$ is going to hurt the future of these devices which I otherwise love.

OdeeanRDeathshead: I had read your previous posts, and as ever, very interesting and informative reading. I had the same idea regarding a "dummy" bluetooth device a while back, but mamaich put me in my place!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=179839#179839
V

thanks vijay555, thats what I have suspected about the hardware. What I want to do is a bit different. The bluetooth can communicate to many devices at once. If your program could appear to be a headset to the os, then the phone bluetooth hardware could transmit the audio to the headset at the same time your program uses bluetooth to receive it. Kind of like a loop out of the box to bridge the lack of functionality. This shifts the problem to how dose a hardware bluetooth headset communicate. Emulate this and we are on a winner. I don't think I have the willingness to pull my devices appart. I also do not have the money for some of the hardware (eg good digital oscilliscope) that I would need to measure whats going on. I did read that microsoft are about to expose some new api to allow control over the pairing process (but not the audio stream). I hope that we get some soon.
Is there going to be any new (for 2005) free development tools like the evc versions used today?

OdeeanRDeathshead: re eVC, I don't think so. The "express editions" are free, but they specifically omit the functionality to develop "mobile solutions".
Re the loop back. That's a good idea. I think mamaich is our best bet on schematics, I think that would be very helpful. As you "rave", it's mindboggling that Microsoft still haven't revealed or implemented a way to interact with the audio channels. It must have been one of the first things one could imagine doing once you develop a PDA with a phone stuck on the back of it.
Any idea if the bluetooth stacks could support transmitting and receiving simultaneously in this manner? I know some of the boys are working on alternative bluetooth support for the stereo headset profiles, so they might be able to shed some light on the issues involved. I guess the processor overhead could be hefty, but for the benefit it would be beneficial.
V

Bluetooth on-demand

I was wondering whether there is a utility somewhere which can be used to switch on bluetooth when a call is received, pair the headset with the Universal and switch bluetooth back off when the call is finished.
Leaving the PDA with Bluetooth constantly on is draining my battery too quickly.
Is this possible at all and if so, has someone created a tool to do it?

Pocketzenphone is your answer. See various postings on this site. This software is a must for anyone with a Phone edition pocket pc.

This option didn't work on my jasjar.

OzBT does work!!!

Instead use a Motorolla Head set

Tailazoom is right - a most important feature of this program does not work on the jasjar :x . I contacted Zendrui perhaps he can come up with some sort of fix. Also for some reason I cannot even uninstall the program using the Remove Programs facility.

SAP connection from Ameo to another Phone

Bit of a noob question here, but is there a way to use SAP to utilise my cellphone's SIM contacts and network so that when I'm indoors I can text and call on the AMEO and then disconnect when I'm out and about. Currently I have to SIM swap as I don't like making calls on the Ameo in public.
Basically I want my Ameo to act a bit like a RSAP car kit....utilizing my phone's SIM list and transmitter when needed. This would not only be very convenient but would I think make the Ameo's battery last a hell of a lot longer as in my experience GSM/3G drains a lot more power than BT.
could the Ameo do this?
Or is it possible to develop a programme to do this?
I trust that someone out there knows.....
(Both handsets support SAP)

is that a no then?! Surprised noone else has thought of this considering the size of the ameo. Does anyone even know if it's possible to 'trick' the ameo's bluetooth stack into thinking it can act as a handsfree car kit? Or would this fall down to the capabilities of microsoft's stack? Come on people.

leoni1980 said:
is that a no then?! Surprised noone else has thought of this considering the size of the ameo. Does anyone even know if it's possible to 'trick' the ameo's bluetooth stack into thinking it can act as a handsfree car kit? Or would this fall down to the capabilities of microsoft's stack? Come on people.
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I seem to remember this has been asked before about 3 or 4 months ago and not reply was received then, either (sorry!)

apd said:
I seem to remember this has been asked before about 3 or 4 months ago and not reply was received then, either (sorry!)
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That's a real shame.
Would be nice to develop a little app to allow this, after all it's manipulability and flexibility like this which has allowed the bluetooth protocol to develop the way it has.
Surely someone out there knows whether it is AT LEAST possible. This sort of development would perhaps also form the possibility of using the HTC shift for voice calls if a similar SAP mod can be developed - as this is the only feature the device lacks!
Come on - I'm gagging for someone who knows about this to give an answer.

leoni1980 said:
That's a real shame.
Would be nice to develop a little app to allow this, after all it's manipulability and flexibility like this which has allowed the bluetooth protocol to develop the way it has.
Surely someone out there knows whether it is AT LEAST possible. This sort of development would perhaps also form the possibility of using the HTC shift for voice calls if a similar SAP mod can be developed - as this is the only feature the device lacks!
Come on - I'm gagging for someone who knows about this to give an answer.
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SAP? You mean the software SAP? I use it with remote desktop. I dont think the software is meant for windows mobile. Also I message my clients using Outlook so there is no real problem. I can be logged into SAP as Admin 24/7 via HSDPA or GPRS.

it was i who created that post about using a SAP profile as a remote phone...
and not a single person chimed in then...
i have done soem extensive research on this subject...
i have found that you need teh development kit for a sim access server (as our phone already has a license)
basicly if someone has a nice car (dump the os) =p
but if we dont have as im access server its not possible...
if someone can get their hands on a sim access server this could very well be a possibility

nuclear said:
SAP? You mean the software SAP? T0I use it with remote desktop. I dont think the software is meant for windows mobile. Also I message my clients using Outlook so there is no real problem. I can be logged into SAP as Admin 24/7 via HSDPA or GPRS.
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No sap in this case means sim access profile. It is the same protocol used by bluetooth car kits which basically allows you to remotely view your contacts and call them or text them remotely. Such a utility would i think be brilliant with the ameo as one could connect to, say a nokia n95 and use its transmitter and phonebook whilst at work or static to make and receive calls and browse the internet, then disconnect when out and about. This would be worlds apart from using a bluetooth headset i think.

Rom with microsoft bluetooth stack??

Is anyone cooking a rom for the T-mobile HD2 that uses the Microsoft bluetooth stack instead of widcomm. I am looking to see if Microsoft Voioce Command will work properly with this stack.

yes. it would be nice to use my by keyboard and mouse again. LOL.

Subscribing to this thread, too...

Very Unhappy
I could not wait for the HD2 to be released on Tmobile. I have been with them for almost 9 years. I thought finally I can use their 3G network with the HD2. The last thing I expected was for the basic functions of the phone to not work. The phone does so much and is very advanced yet the basic bluetooth functions have been left out. I have spoken with both Tmobile and higher level support at HTC and honestly neither is going to do anything about the bluetooth support on this phone.

Well, if this is true, then it's becoming more and more clear that this is not something they just forgot to integrate - they omitted it on purpose, like the second camera (the second big fauxpas for a "high end phone"!), in order to have something left they can put into HD3 which makes people buy a new device...
I'm still wondering about the roms though - on PC I used to fight with BT stacks years ago. But it as always possible to install a different one, no matter what BT dongle I was using. Is it definitely impossible to create a rom with another stack? Is the stack somehow hard coded into the hardware?

polera257 said:
Is anyone cooking a rom for the T-mobile HD2 that uses the Microsoft bluetooth stack instead of widcomm. I am looking to see if Microsoft Voioce Command will work properly with this stack.
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Great question...I'm hoping there is an answer.

This would be so great if anyone could make my bt mouse running again on HD2. May be there could be a sourgeforce app or a MS BT stack cracked HD2-Rom.
If I only could use my BT mouse on HD2, may be in 2012 on WM8? Would be so nice for RDP, Virtual Machines, Gaming...
Someone tried on HD2 android with blueinput? Cannot get my BT working Android Running since my new Radio semms not to fit, will test later... I changed the BT working Android to the Phone working Android that is running fine on new Radio...

holylove02 said:
yes. it would be nice to use my by keyboard and mouse again. LOL.
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I was able to get a BT keyboard to work on my HD2 with stock rom. I never tried a mouse.