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Flip, Twist, Close...now how hard was that
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I like it, only there is no GPS on it That's bad.
And he's to big.. but he has a lot of options
Drooooooool!!!!
That is sooooooooooooooo sexy.....
me no likes... it's huge.....
Looks nice, but based on what I have experienced with my Siemens SX66, I would be quite concerned with the mechanical quality / stability of something that can move THAT much.
It should be fine mechanically, I had a sharp Zaurus sl750 pda in which the screen swiveled the same way. After a couple years of use I had no issues. I followed the Zaurus forums for a long time and never recall anyone with a screen hinge issue. The only down side will be the constant use of phone features with pda doubling the exposure to damage and wear. With bluetooth though, it should remain in the case or pocket most of it's active phone life.
Although it is a big thing, I would really like to compare it for a week with my Qtek 9090...I think I will have mroe fun with it...
its nice and all but why is there no LCD display on the front...no wonder why there is no pictures of the Universal closed because there is not a damn thing on the cover...what if you get a call, you gotta open it everytime to see who it is...everything was lovely but there is always that one feature that people want that they forget to put on.....i don't know if want a universal now if i always gotta flip open this big device everytime a call comes in to see the caller id....what a disappointment....
WHAT NO LCD DISPLAY!!!
its nice and all but why is there no LCD display on the front...no wonder why there is no pictures of the Universal closed because there is not a damn thing on the cover...what if you get a call, you gotta open it everytime to see who it is...everything was lovely but there is always that one feature that people want that they forget to put on.....i don't know if want a universal now if i always gotta flip open this big device everytime a call comes in to see the caller id....what a disappointment....
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its nice and all but why is there no LCD display on the front...no wonder why there is no pictures of the Universal closed because there is not a damn thing on the cover...what if you get a call, you gotta open it everytime to see who it is...everything was lovely but there is always that one feature that people want that they forget to put on.....i don't know if want a universal now if i always gotta flip open this big device everytime a call comes in to see the caller id....what a disappointment....
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I don't know of any converged device that doesn't require some sort of opening, be it a protective case/clip or the device itself, to access the screen. I guess you could use some of the devices without a protective case to get this "feature", but I would be more interested in protecting my investment. Even if it had a screen on the outside like the MPx-300, I would be inclined to protect it in some way as well. I don't see this as a disappointment, but as a good solution to the problem of a protective case adding to the thickness and weight of the device (That is if the outer shell is enough protection for the device). IMHO.
strikeIII said:
its nice and all but why is there no LCD display on the front...no wonder why there is no pictures of the Universal closed because there is not a damn thing on the cover...what if you get a call, you gotta open it everytime to see who it is...everything was lovely but there is always that one feature that people want that they forget to put on.....i don't know if want a universal now if i always gotta flip open this big device everytime a call comes in to see the caller id....what a disappointment....
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As far as I can see there are 3 different modes and none of them are compulsory :shock:
You don't want it closed - don't close it!
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strikeIII said:
its nice and all but why is there no LCD display on the front...no wonder why there is no pictures of the Universal closed because there is not a damn thing on the cover...what if you get a call, you gotta open it everytime to see who it is...everything was lovely but there is always that one feature that people want that they forget to put on.....i don't know if want a universal now if i always gotta flip open this big device everytime a call comes in to see the caller id....what a disappointment....
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I don't know of any converged device that doesn't require some sort of opening, be it a protective case/clip or the device itself, to access the screen. I guess you could use some of the devices without a protective case to get this "feature", but I would be more interested in protecting my investment. Even if it had a screen on the outside like the MPx-300, I would be inclined to protect it in some way as well. I don't see this as a disappointment, but as a good solution to the problem of a protective case adding to the thickness and weight of the device (That is if the outer shell is enough protection for the device). IMHO.
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i understand its for protection but i'm talkin about just a small LCD screen that shows caller id, date and time...a small LCD like that would not make the device any thicker and it would be very convient to have so you wouldn't have to flip the phone open everytime you get a call to see the caller id especially when your using a headset.....
A small display on the front (when closed) would have been nice. In fact, this device would have been absolutely perfect if it had a small screen and a number pad on the front (when closed).
Imagine if it had a small cell phone screen and number pad on the front. That way you could have the caller ID (and even a picture caller ID if you wanted) without opening the device. And if there was a number pad there too, you could make full use of the phone functions, even one handed, without opening the device.
Then you could open it up and reveal the tablet-style PDA.
The best of both worlds. An easy to use, full function phone with a full keypad that is easy to use with one hand. And also a fully functioning Pocket PC with a big qwerty keyboard and a big screen. Cameras on both of them.
Maybe by the time the Universal makes it to Sprint in the USA, that's how it be. I doubt it, but it sure would be nice...
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A small display on the front (when closed) would have been nice. In fact, this device would have been absolutely perfect if it had a small screen and a number pad on the front (when closed).
Imagine if it had a small cell phone screen and number pad on the front. That way you could have the caller ID (and even a picture caller ID if you wanted) without opening the device. And if there was a number pad there too, you could make full use of the phone functions, even one handed, without opening the device.
Then you could open it up and reveal the tablet-style PDA.
The best of both worlds. An easy to use, full function phone with a full keypad that is easy to use with one hand. And also a fully functioning Pocket PC with a big qwerty keyboard and a big screen. Cameras on both of them.
Maybe by the time the Universal makes it to Sprint in the USA, that's how it be. I doubt it, but it sure would be nice...
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Wouldn't that be just a 3G Nokia Communicator?! :wink:
It would be similar to a communicator, but it would be running Windows Mobile, with 2 cameras, and the big, twistable screen.
But yeah, Nokia was definitely on the right track with the physical design of the communicator.
I can see that getting broken very easily. It still looks cool though!
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strikeIII said:
its nice and all but why is there no LCD display on the front...no wonder why there is no pictures of the Universal closed because there is not a damn thing on the cover...what if you get a call, you gotta open it everytime to see who it is...everything was lovely but there is always that one feature that people want that they forget to put on.....i don't know if want a universal now if i always gotta flip open this big device everytime a call comes in to see the caller id....what a disappointment....
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This is wat you were after you can see the device close, side also back of device where camera is located
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There are a few things I'd change about the ergonomics of the Universal. I'm right-handed so I hold the thing in my left hand and operate with my right. Before this I had an XDA2.
- on/off switch should be on the right-hand side of the case, under the 'Enter' key and should be easier to find without looking (i.e. by feel only). In portrait mode it should be at the top of the machine
- the pen should come out of the case in the same location as it does for the XDA2, i.e. under the '->' key on the keyboard. In portrait mode I have to reach over the top of the Exec and fumble the pen out from the left side of the machine
- the phone answer/end buttons on the hinge are exactly where my thumb is located when I hold the phone while talking in portrait mode (I listen through my left ear), so I often press them by accident while talking. They should be at the opposite end of the hinge IMHO and they should light up when a call comes in
- camera lens is at the wrong end of the machine: in tablet mode but landscape (which is the only orientation the camera seems to allow :roll: :?: ) I hold the Exec with my left hand and press the shutter button with my right and in this position my left-hand fingers often obscure the lens. If the lens was at the SD-card end of the case I could hold the Exec comfortably in my left hand without obscuring the lens
I love this machine but I'm curious to know whether I'm the only one who finds it slightly awkward to use in some circumstances. Maybe because of the dual format (tablet/laptop) it'd be impossible to get perfect, but the above changes would help me a lot.
Kind of agree, but I'll adapt.
The other niggle - my lovely Proporta case, complete with belt clip - you leave the device in the case to use it. Perfect! Except the toggle for the belt clip is, of course, on the previously "flat" camera side, so I can no longer sit the thing on a desk to type without first unscrewing (and probably losing) the belt clip toggle...
Pah.
It seems that space issues dictate where the pen went.
Infact, if you look the end curves to go above the usb socket!
I used to laugh at the Magician owners when I had XDAII, i had a real stylus and they had a stubby little square thing.
Bah, i feel foolish now.
On the positive side though, just how many speakers does this thing have? I've counted four so far...
Two on the side edge (stereo), plus one above the screen in tablet mode, and then another one in the plain side where the holes are (above the Enter key when the clamshell is closed).
Just answered a phone call with the case closed and the sound was coming from those holes. So we can answer it both when the clamshell is closed and when it's in tablet mode. Awesome! No more dirty screen!
Does it automatically answer the phone if you open the clamshell to view the screen when it rings? Haven't tried this yet.
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Does it automatically answer the phone if you open the clamshell to view the screen when it rings? Haven't tried this yet.
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lol ive been meaning to do that for months.
and yup. ive just tested it, you can open and close as many times as you like, then close and press the green button.
no worries
the caller detials are nicer in wide and the pic is bigger im sure
Front aluminum sheet!!
Has anyone encountered the same?! I have used the phone with closed clamshell and many times when my sideburners got stuck in between the slight attachement edge of the metal sheet on the clamshel!
I thought it is inconvenient and now I believe it is so! The metal sheet is not properly glued to the phone body!!
Poor craftwork
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Cyber-mate said:
Has anyone encountered the same?! I have used the phone with closed clamshell and many times when my sideburners got stuck in between the slight attachement edge of the metal sheet on the clamshel!
I thought it is inconvenient and now I believe it is so! The metal sheet is not properly glued to the phone body!!
Poor craftwork
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Hehehe :lol:
It sounds funny, but I guess (like the points I made in my original post) it's a small irritation for you. Wonder whether they have bearded testers in the HTC factories...
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Hehehe :lol:
It sounds funny, but I guess (like the points I made in my original post) it's a small irritation for you. Wonder whether they have bearded testers in the HTC factories...
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Although it is funny but way too serious :wink:
Yet your suggestion for beard testers is recommended
Hi,
I've got the 9100 for a month now.
and everytime when the phone rings, the screen go automaticly to landscape mode, and the send button is not responding.
i can anser only frem the "answer" button on the screen which is now on the top left corner.
it doesnt happend all the time, but its very annoing.
any help?
thanks
Have you tried a hard reset ?
Hahaha... I know where this is coming from...
You are using the TERRIBLE useless case that comes in the box right? Its magnets cause the screen to flip around... your unit is A-OK.
By the way, you store your unit screen facing out or facing your body? Try changing directions if you insist on using this stupid case (I am using it also but I am looking for a better one).
Has anyone found a better case for the KJAM/QTEK 9100?
I had the problem with the case, too...
But it doesn't explain the send button not working - that's happened to me also, which is damn annoying when you're trying to answer the phone!
oh, and I'll be writing a review of the PDAir case as soon as it arrives... Fingers are crossed!
ooh
It really make sense, the magnet thing.
i don't usually put the device on specified side.
but i will try to notice it from now.
in that case, what about the car holders that uses magnet to hold the device?
Give it a try, use the cases magnets to find the spot on the KJAM that flips the screen. It seems that the sliding keyboard uses a magnet to let the device know it is open and to flip the screen.
The included case is such a useless case. I am sure that NO ONE at HTC actually tested the usability of the case WITH the KJAM inside in an everyday usage pattern...
Also, I am not sure if the magnets don't harm the device..
Many many thanks you very clever and helpful people!!!
I was on the verge of getting on to eBay and letting the top bidder have my XDA Mini, because of this switching lark, but I've tried what has been posted here and sure enough, it is the magnets.
So I'll get a better case and keep the device which I think is excellent.
Thanks again!!
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yea
it helped
please give us a recommendation for a good case
thanks
Yeah.. would like to hear about a good case...
I was thinking about one of these:
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=302&t_mode=cat
Anybody uses them?
I am an ex Blue Angel owner, and i have had the Wizard for about 7 months now, and the phone is perfect (size, battery, keyboard), however there is one problem that has been bugging me.
I use the standard case, as i like the format. however when i recieve a phone call and i remove it from the case, the screen 8 times out of 10 turns to landscape then back to portrait, and this prevents me answering the phone for 30 seconds or so until the screen turns back, as the hardware buttons dont respond. However i never figured what cused this, until i read through an unrelated post that it was caused my the magnets in the case. and testing this by waving the case over the surface of the phone reproduces this problem.
now i am stunned that they bundled this case with the phone, and i am in the market of looking for another without the magnets i.e snap button.
does anyone know of an an alternative case that is horizontal that has the same belt clip?
i have seen the Krussel Horizontal Case http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/product.php/21636/3384/, but i dont like the detachable belt clip. as i envisage the phone coming off it unlike a vertical case that has gravity and a low pivot point keeping it steady.
has anyone got any suggestions?
I've got the same probleme with my qtek 9100.
Hi Fuzzy [EDIT: and Alex],
some weeks ago I did a search for HTC Wizard on Froogle, and I found a lot of accessories: aluminium hard-cases, new styluses, loudspeaker mountings, modfied desktop stands...
Case-specific search:
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=htc+wizard+case&btnG=Search+Froogle
I am sure there is a case that fits your needs.
Greetz
Raubi
unfortunately i have looked through all the 8 pages of hits and there is not a case that is suitable. the nearest to what i want is a case made by sena http://www.senacases.com/cart/home.php?cat=413 however it itself has a magnetic clasp, so will most likely result in the same problem
I want a case like the original with same type of belt clip and without a magnetic clasp. Does anyone have or use such a case, or can confirm that the sena cases arent afflicted with the same problem.
Turn your phone over!!!
When you put the phone in the OEM case, have the screen facing your body (away from the magnetic clasp). This will accomplish 2 things:
1. Prevents the magnet from activating Landscape Mode.
2. Provide extra protection from direct impact for your screen.
I have always done this and never experienced the Landscape issue.
For me that doesnt work, infact it makes it worse i've just removed the phone like that from the case a few times and it change orientation every time. the magnet is contained in the flap and it triggers the screen change every time weather it brishes past the back or the front of the phone.
I have just bought the Krussell case from my first post after not succeeding finding an alternative, i think that with a belt clip it will be unsafe and will stick out much further than the original case, however it does have loops to loop belts through, so that may be the tradeoff i need.
I will let you know how i get on when i recieve the case next week.
what i am most surprised at is either HTC or the mobile carriers not picking up on the problem and selecting a different case.
but the one thing i have figured is that if the magnet is contained purely on the pouch and not the flap (i.e. the flap has metal in it) then this problem would not happen. and if i twisted the phone away from the case when removing it... and ...and ...and..... there would probably be lots of ways to get around it not happening, but in the real world in everyday use when i remove the phone it does happen and it causes me to miss lots of phone calls...
Hey all,
My Tilt is on the way from AT&T, and I'm looking at cases. The cases that seem to interest me all use magnetic studs. Some have said the magnetic studs can keep the Tilt turned on.
The 2 I like the most are the following:
PDair Book Type
ebay "Premium" Kaiser Case
Anyone had any experience with these or other similar cases with magnetic studs in a similar spot causing problems?
Thanks!
Dont want to hijack your thread but since your on the topic of that case anyone try "PDair Book Type"? Is it still possible to press the keys with the plastic over it?... It doesn't look like it, i seems like you would be pressing more than one button at a time with that plastic over the keyboard.
jinnosuke said:
Dont want to hijack your thread but since your on the topic of that case anyone try "PDair Book Type"? Is it still possible to press the keys with the plastic over it?... It doesn't look like it, i seems like you would be pressing more than one button at a time with that plastic over the keyboard.
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I think you'll be able to press the keys, but it wont be as good as without the case. As you said, you'll prolly press several buttons at onces and wont get the same feel when typing.
I've used a Prestige case with magnetic closure for a year or more with my AT&T 8525. Never noticed a problem. I'm now using the case with my Tilt, but that's only been a few days. Haven't noticed anything yet, however.
I'm using the PDAir flip case -- the magnetic stud doesn't affect anything. The plastic keyboard cover isn't too bad -- I haven't noticed any problems with multiple keypresses, but it does affect the feel of the keyboard.
I'm looking forward to the Piel Frama case, which should be coming out in the next few weeks. They had a really good case for my old Wizard that used a narrow leather strap & snap to hold the device in the case; you'd unsnap the strap to access the keyboard.
Depends on the magnet strength and location, there have been a few reports of the magnet turning on the phone. The kaiser keyboard uses a magnetic sensor to turn on the phone when the keyboard opens. I'm using a hip holster with mag and not seeing any issue.
I'd say should anyone have the issue, start a thread with brand/model listed for others to avoid.
I have the Seidio case I originally bought for my 8525.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=394
The two magnets would always "trick" the screen into thinking the keyboard was open and switch it to landscape mode. I always had to wait a few seconds for the screen to switch back when I took it out of the case.
This does NOT happen with the Tilt. The screen stays in portrait mode. I have always liked the quality of the case and the magnets in the flap make it easy to open and shut. So now it is my perfect solution.
no issues here
YodaJM said:
Hey all,
My Tilt is on the way from AT&T, and I'm looking at cases. The cases that seem to interest me all use magnetic studs. Some have said the magnetic studs can keep the Tilt turned on.
The 2 I like the most are the following:
PDair Book Type
ebay "Premium" Kaiser Case
Anyone had any experience with these or other similar cases with magnetic studs in a similar spot causing problems?
Thanks!
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I have been using a case with two magnetic studs on the flip closure for months now and have had zero issues. Bought mine at Fred Meyers and recomend anyone in need of a good black leather horizontal pouch case to check it out. was 15 dollars and is of the same quality and fit as 40 dollar cases you may see online.
cheers
I've been using a Motorola Case designed for the Q9 with my Tilt and it's worked out quite well. It also has a single magnetic stud closure and I have noticed no issues at all.
I bought the PDair Book Type case same week the Tilt first came out here in the U.S. I have had no problems at all. Non of that shutting off by itself thingy people complain about.
Magnetic cases
Some cases cause screen to wake up, some don't. To eliminate the problem just turn off Slide Wake option in registry. When slide wake is enabled opening the keyboard (or getting too close to a magnet) will wake the screen. Turn this option off and you can use magnetic clasps at will.