There are a few things I'd change about the ergonomics of the Universal. I'm right-handed so I hold the thing in my left hand and operate with my right. Before this I had an XDA2.
- on/off switch should be on the right-hand side of the case, under the 'Enter' key and should be easier to find without looking (i.e. by feel only). In portrait mode it should be at the top of the machine
- the pen should come out of the case in the same location as it does for the XDA2, i.e. under the '->' key on the keyboard. In portrait mode I have to reach over the top of the Exec and fumble the pen out from the left side of the machine
- the phone answer/end buttons on the hinge are exactly where my thumb is located when I hold the phone while talking in portrait mode (I listen through my left ear), so I often press them by accident while talking. They should be at the opposite end of the hinge IMHO and they should light up when a call comes in
- camera lens is at the wrong end of the machine: in tablet mode but landscape (which is the only orientation the camera seems to allow :roll: :?: ) I hold the Exec with my left hand and press the shutter button with my right and in this position my left-hand fingers often obscure the lens. If the lens was at the SD-card end of the case I could hold the Exec comfortably in my left hand without obscuring the lens
I love this machine but I'm curious to know whether I'm the only one who finds it slightly awkward to use in some circumstances. Maybe because of the dual format (tablet/laptop) it'd be impossible to get perfect, but the above changes would help me a lot.
Kind of agree, but I'll adapt.
The other niggle - my lovely Proporta case, complete with belt clip - you leave the device in the case to use it. Perfect! Except the toggle for the belt clip is, of course, on the previously "flat" camera side, so I can no longer sit the thing on a desk to type without first unscrewing (and probably losing) the belt clip toggle...
Pah.
It seems that space issues dictate where the pen went.
Infact, if you look the end curves to go above the usb socket!
I used to laugh at the Magician owners when I had XDAII, i had a real stylus and they had a stubby little square thing.
Bah, i feel foolish now.
On the positive side though, just how many speakers does this thing have? I've counted four so far...
Two on the side edge (stereo), plus one above the screen in tablet mode, and then another one in the plain side where the holes are (above the Enter key when the clamshell is closed).
Just answered a phone call with the case closed and the sound was coming from those holes. So we can answer it both when the clamshell is closed and when it's in tablet mode. Awesome! No more dirty screen!
Does it automatically answer the phone if you open the clamshell to view the screen when it rings? Haven't tried this yet.
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Does it automatically answer the phone if you open the clamshell to view the screen when it rings? Haven't tried this yet.
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lol ive been meaning to do that for months.
and yup. ive just tested it, you can open and close as many times as you like, then close and press the green button.
no worries
the caller detials are nicer in wide and the pic is bigger im sure
Front aluminum sheet!!
Has anyone encountered the same?! I have used the phone with closed clamshell and many times when my sideburners got stuck in between the slight attachement edge of the metal sheet on the clamshel!
I thought it is inconvenient and now I believe it is so! The metal sheet is not properly glued to the phone body!!
Poor craftwork
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Has anyone encountered the same?! I have used the phone with closed clamshell and many times when my sideburners got stuck in between the slight attachement edge of the metal sheet on the clamshel!
I thought it is inconvenient and now I believe it is so! The metal sheet is not properly glued to the phone body!!
Poor craftwork
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Hehehe :lol:
It sounds funny, but I guess (like the points I made in my original post) it's a small irritation for you. Wonder whether they have bearded testers in the HTC factories...
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Hehehe :lol:
It sounds funny, but I guess (like the points I made in my original post) it's a small irritation for you. Wonder whether they have bearded testers in the HTC factories...
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Although it is funny but way too serious :wink:
Yet your suggestion for beard testers is recommended
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Hi, I was wondering if anyone suffers from screen corruption when recieving an incoming call. My screen sometimes (maybe 6 times out of 10) will go into landscape mode and result in some corruption. It will revert to normal when I actually answer the call. Sometimes, I am unable to answer the call and the caller will be sent to voicemail even though I click the green send button.
Has anyone come accross anything like this?
Thanks.
Well, there is a chance that I am psychic... Are you storing your device in the supplied holster? It has been noted that the sensor which indicates the keyboard is fully out appears to be either magnetic or sensitive to magnetic fields. So it is entirely possible that it is getting temporarily switched to landscape as you drag it out of the holster.
Neat experiment to prove this sensitivity. Take your K-Jam, turn on the power. Now, with the keyboard stowed, take your holster flap place the fuzzy side against the back of your device and slowly move it up around the right-hand edge of your device. At some point along the way your device will flip to landscape.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX
Ahh, its done magnetically? I was worried a microswitch would eventually wear out ;p
you are so true, it happens to me all the time, it even answers calls automaticaly, I thought I was pressing some buttons while taking it out of the holster but I tried your little experiment , it was positive all the time,
Now, how to solve this without throwing the holster away?
I notices that it happens more when the screen is facing inside, when I insert it screen outside it rarely happens!
you are so true, it happens to me all the time, it even answers calls automaticaly, I thought I was pressing some buttons while taking it out of the holster but I tried your little experiment , it was positive all the time,
Now, how to solve this without throwing the holster away?
I notices that it happens more when the screen is facing inside, when I insert it screen outside it rarely happens!
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Well, there is a chance that I am psychic... Are you storing your device in the supplied holster? It has been noted that the sensor which indicates the keyboard is fully out appears to be either magnetic or sensitive to magnetic fields. So it is entirely possible that it is getting temporarily switched to landscape as you drag it out of the holster.
Neat experiment to prove this sensitivity. Take your K-Jam, turn on the power. Now, with the keyboard stowed, take your holster flap place the fuzzy side against the back of your device and slowly move it up around the right-hand edge of your device. At some point along the way your device will flip to landscape.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX
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Robert, I will pay to have you read my fortune any day!! Exactly as you said. Really gutted about having to ditch the holster, but I would rather be able to answer my calls effectively.
Thanks again, pal. Much appreciated.
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you are so true, it happens to me all the time, it even answers calls automaticaly, I thought I was pressing some buttons while taking it out of the holster but I tried your little experiment , it was positive all the time,
Now, how to solve this without throwing the holster away?
I notices that it happens more when the screen is facing inside, when I insert it screen outside it rarely happens!
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U JUST SOLVED MY PROBLEM
I JUST THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY HANDS !!
or what i have is the top button on the right handside to flip between land and port, so when it does that you just press the button and it flips back right away!
hello to everybody!
i got my xda trion 2 weeks ago. after one week, it was impossible to bring the stylus into the xda. so i got a new one.
after again one week, the stylus wont come out of the trion.
someone else prob's with the stylus?
greetings
karl
+ 1, probleme like a wizard too
same ting happened with my TyTN today...
+1 with one week old tytn
Same here...
First I couldn't get it out / then I couldn't get it in / then it would simply slide in-and-out freely to the point that only gravity was holding it in place (sorry if this sounds dirty, but this is what happened).
Had to have mine replaced. I've heard this issue has been around since the Wizard...
I really hope I don't have the same problem on TyTn #2!!!
After a few days of having mine suddenly the stylus was becoming enromously difficult to remove. At one point it just wasnt moving so after a forceful tug it pulled out and a tiny transparent square of plastic/rubber fell out with it. Looks like it was in there to keep it in place but i have no idea how to put it back in. Now the stylus removes fine and stays in place too :shock:
I had the same problem.
Could not get the staylus in with my TyTN.
So I did the mistake and pushed it in... a "knack" sound alerted me that something bad happened. Could not get the stylus in still... so I yanked a small rubber plastic piece from the stylus hole on my TyTN. Now I can slide easily the stylus in.
From teh reports I heard my guess is that the rubebr plastic inside the TyTN is used to firmly hold the stylus in. While without this rubebr plastic there is nothing to hold the stylus until you fully place it inside the TyTN.
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After a few days of having mine suddenly the stylus was becoming enromously difficult to remove. At one point it just wasnt moving so after a forceful tug it pulled out and a tiny transparent square of plastic/rubber fell out with it. Looks like it was in there to keep it in place but i have no idea how to put it back in. Now the stylus removes fine and stays in place too :shock:
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Same here TyTN 1 week old.
same here,
think I'll swap mine over for a new one.....
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I had the same problem.
Could not get the staylus in with my TyTN.
So I did the mistake and pushed it in... a "knack" sound alerted me that something bad happened. Could not get the stylus in still... so I yanked a small rubber plastic piece from the stylus hole on my TyTN. Now I can slide easily the stylus in.
From teh reports I heard my guess is that the rubebr plastic inside the TyTN is used to firmly hold the stylus in. While without this rubebr plastic there is nothing to hold the stylus until you fully place it inside the TyTN.
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Same here in 5 days
happend with me after 2 weeks. I've been struggling for a week, and now it's workng again! Don't know how long it will last. I hope it won't brake down, I bought Hermes thrue internetshop. Always sick to return things.
I carry something like this, and only use the tytn stylus in emergencies. I'm hoping this will reduce wear.
Same here - less than 2 weeks.
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Same here 5 days, luckley I had a replacment on order for BT problems recived that today lets see how this one goes.
me 2
my TYTN's stylus wouldn't stay in the hole.
i sent my tytn to be replaced (due to BT problems and screen alignment)
and i hope i t won't happen again.
when i put the tytn in the box to be sent so the stylus stopped falling :? )
that is odd
My stylus is a little difficult to remove at times, so I had a look down inside the stylus hole and it appears that there are three of those little pink rubber squares protruding from the side and a dark rubber 'socket' at the end to grip the tip when it's fully inserted. The pink squares are obviously there to provide a little more grip along the length of the stylus, but my guess is that even without them the 'socket' at the end would hold the stylus in place. I imagine that over time the pink rubber will either soften up or disintegrate entirely with the friction.
Solution stylus problem
I had the same problem with my stylus, my solution is take a Poster Buddy Brand name Pritt it is so called here in Holland you can place posters and photo's with it on wals, doors etc. looks like white rubber glue, think I see it in the UK with the name Sticky here you can buy it with photostores and bookstores etc. Take a small piece of it turn it between your vingers to a small ball and put it in the stylus hole after that push it to the end with your stylus.
After I do this I have no further problem with the stylus it works great.
Same issue here... the 2nd day I had it a small transparent square rubber went out of the stylus hole. Now i can put it in and out without problems...
Loose/Jammed Stylus
I'm afraid sending device back for replacement/repair for the stylus problem and loose locking keyboard may only be a temporary fix. Having had my device dismantled I can see exactly what the problesms are with both stylus and keyboard.
For the stylus there is a small block of clear plastic designed to create a friction lock to stop it falling out. There is luckily another small plastic spring lock at the far end so if the stylus is fully in it should click in and not drop out even without the plastic block. The problem is that the plastic block is not held firmly in its slot and as it gets loose creates far too much friction against the stylus which can then drag it right out.
The loose keyboards are due to the metal runners (that you see on back of keyboard partially springing apart (breaking tiny micro welds) at the ends where they lock (or not!) open and closed. These runners if they have sprung open like this will never lock firmly again unless you perform a bit of DIY.
I have performed small operations to fix both these problems and my Keyboard now locks very firmly both open and closed. The stylus issue is dealt with internally with a felt runner at a specific location. BEWARE of course performing these operations will invalidate your warranty. I can be much more specific for anyone who wishes to contact me directly particularly with the keyboard issue which requires quite a chore in dismantling the device - though I can now perform this in half an hour start to finish (Not something I'm proud of with a new device, but I had to workout just how to do the fixes!! )
Actually otherwise I think TYTN is great - superb in fact which is why I did not send it back for repair - couldn't bear to be without it!.
PS Finger around the screen method works every time for me forget all that align screen caper.
Mike
@mikechannon: Do you have high quality pictures of disassembled device where we can see the chipset references? we need to gather information on the hardware used inside the Hermes...
The part where the display is becomes shaky a bit when you slide open the keyboard
Is that something that I should be concerned about or is it normal?
I think it's normal. I've examined four X1a's and they all had a small amount of play in the top part of the slider when open.
Mine has also a slight play to it (back and forth). Noticed this on the Raphael as well.
Keep in mind though, that the slider is only supported by two metal hooks situated (when keyboard out) at one end of the screen. So guess it's normal.
The play will also increase as the phone gets older (wear and tear). As long as the screen doesn't fall off I guess it's ok.
To prolong the life though, I try to be gentle when opening and support the screen when it's open (to reduce the wear and tear).
Mine's shaky when closed. Went to the service centre thrice and everytime they said it was normal.
Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.
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Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.
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I support it when open, cause it's impossible to make it solid (@least not in this form factor). It's easy enough for me though.. cause the phone fits in my palm so easy (and way easier than other phones I've had - But I do miss the tilting screen from Kaiser though..then again, that needed major support when tilted)
I am new to this board, hello everybody!
I have my X1 for a week now. On mine the top part is shaky when closed, it moves ~1mm up/down opposite of the slider hinges. Anyone else?
It annoys me, but I hope it is okay and won't get worse.
Greets and have Fun with Your X1s!
i think it's normal. I noticed that as soon as I took it out of the box and was very worried. it's my first slider phone and i didn't know what was normal and what was not. reading threads like this was very reassuring for me. I just hope it won't get loose, if it stays like that, then i'm happy.
It seems really solid to me. No movement at all unless I push on it. I’m guessing it will loosen up over time.
same here, closed and opened. When I press gently in opposite corners when closed, it waggles slightly. I got annoyed/worried about this after purchasing the phone few months ago and went to the store to ask about it. I got to test three different X1s and they were all similar, so it's not a problem (or at least it's by the design
A bit annoying still though, especially when using touchscreen with your fingers. Mostly when pressing on the right side of the screen (down-right being the worst), it waggles slightly under your fingers.
Same here too. About 1mm up and down when closed, and when open, same.
And yes Jent, it does waggle a bit. Try using the phone when you're lying in bed, and hold the phone upside down... every press will move the screen about 1mm and it gets annoying very quickly.
i also have the problem with the upper corner^^
HI,
I have problem with the moving part of the X1 rattles, mostly in upper - right side /near Volume button/.
Is this normal?
When phone is closed and I press lightly upped and bottom side of my Xperia - I see that phone clatter. This is mostly in right corner, but nearly the same is also in other left upped corner.
I use my Xperia from one month.
I don't have software problems but i don't know is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks
Is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks again
What exactly do you mean by "windage"?
SquidgyB said:
What exactly do you mean by "windage"?
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I'm also curious about this, because the only applicable definition of "windage" here would be air friction preventing him from pushing the button down easily, but I highly doubt that this is happening. Maybe he means erosion? I could imagine a way for one to come to a "windage" type of word for describing a similar effect to how wind can erode things.
I think he might be German -there is the word "Verwindung" which means somewhat like deflection in case of twisting. In my opinion he has the problem that when he presses onto to upper right corner the case the lower left corner travels up a little bit which is normal due to the mounting of the slider mechanism.
He means that the moving part of the X1 rattles. I guess that it is a little loose between the screen and the keyboard and when pressing it with its fingers he feels that the screen is moving downwards.
Unfortunately that's the case with mine, it has a very tiny rattle when I press the screen (tiny but I can feel it very easily) which is annoying.
I guess I will have to live with it.
Any other experiences about it?
Yes, I mean the moving part of the X1 rattles. Two parts: bottom part with keyboard and part with display - knocking, when I press them lightly.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Thanks XavierGr!
When I press some of buttons I feel this move....
Maybe after few months this will be horrible.
Same with my X1. Have it for more than 2 month now and treated it like a raw egg...just wait and see...
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Maybe after few months this will be horrible.
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If the rattle gets worse we are doomed. This thing will eventually break apart if it continues to rattle more and more.
I hope it stays as it is, it's a bit annoying but I can live with it. Time will tell...
could anyone share any experiences for a good working stylus for the hd2?
this phone is stupendous but alas i have to use it for work and the software we use requires very tiny touches and signature signing.
have tried the ones on e-bay (rubber topped pencil turned upside down)
which is crap...have now tried the htc and dagi ones with the tiny red dot and they are just not cutting it.
has anyone done any homemade experiments or come across a moe "pointy" stylus
toodle pip amigos
I got some, and they were crap...
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I got some, and they were crap...
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Unfortunately you are all too correct!
With the glass screen!
Put a protector on it and they work!
I have been using the dagi long slim one and it works ok, I do have a screen protector on though so maybe this helps... makes selecting text and writing Chinese characters much easier (I use my hd2 to study/translate Chinese so being able to use a stylus to do this is pretty great)... its a bit fiddly to start with as you need to learn how to use it properly, but once you get used to it everything is ok...
Most of the styli are crap, I need something with more of a point, but that's probably not possible. Still waiting for some sort of battery powered pen that offers pin point precision, a guy can dream right...
i'll try to put a screen protector on as suggested and try...
my problem is it's no good mastering the dagi myself as i have to get customers signatures and most people simply can't use it...
it deffo needs something more pointy.
i'm sure i read somewhere on the forum about a guy who was filing something to a point till it stopped working???
i'm so frustrated as this is the only phone in 8 years that uses my works software flawlessly...except stylii
I have ordered the official htc stylus 400.
arrives in 2 weeks and i'll post comments.
read a review after ordering that it actually scratches the screen!
I guess i should have waited for the 400/2 version!
look on the bright side, will probably misplace it by the second day anyway
I've tried using my DS stylus but that doesnt work, seems like it was made for bigger objects to come in contact with the screen (ie fingers).
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I've tried using my DS stylus but that doesnt work, seems like it was made for bigger objects to come in contact with the screen (ie fingers).
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It`s not about the size of objects. HD2 has capacitive screen.
"A capacitive touchscreen panel consists of an insulator such as glass, coated with a transparent conductor such as indium tin oxide (ITO).[2][3] As the human body is also a conductor, touching the surface of the screen results in a distortion of the body's electrostatic field, measurable as a change in capacitance. Different technologies may be used to determine the location of the touch. The location can be passed to a computer running a software application which will calculate how the user's touch relates to the computer software."
Wikipedia
thanx for input guys..i least i know about capacitive screens now thanx to kregowski...although i sorta knew.
so if someone could come up with a small pointy thing that gives off some sort of electro staticy stuff...we in..
the search continues
Got the dagi (10 euro from Hong Kong). I am not amused... Touching the screen with the complete tip flat on the screen is annoying to get used to. Often only the side of the tip touches the screen.
When the tip is flat on the screen (which it should) it just does not feel OK. Not "delicate".
Which the screen responsiveness lowered and the tap-reaction time increased (which I did just to be able to get some decent fingertyping results) the dagi does not function adequate. I have to aim more accurate then with my fingers and have to press the dagi on the screen.
Putting the screensettings to default (which I did not try yet) reinstates all the drawbacks in the other functionalities.