VGA Web Browsing? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Does Pocket Internet Explorer allow VGA web browsing? I've seen screenshots of PocketIE that I thought were VGA, but then I found a few references to suggest it upsizes web pages to 320x240 on a VGA screen.

640x480 web browsing in enlarged VGA mode:
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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640x480 web browsing in true VGA mode:
Those screenshots are from Windows Mobile 2003SE, not Windows Mobile 2005. The true VGA screenshots require a 'hack' called ozVGA, but it only runs on WM2003SE, not WM5.
Does WM5 have the ability to provide true VGA web browsing without a hack?

Don't know the answer to the resolution, but have you made sure you zoom out as far as possible in IE?

Mart said:
The true VGA screenshots require a 'hack' called ozVGA, but it only runs on WM2003SE, not WM5.
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It does run on WM5... kinda... It does work and switch the machine into true VGA mode, however, because the OS handles icons differently in WM5 you don't get the icons on the top of the screen and the icons on the Today screen and in Programs don't show up correctly. Additionally some apps like Contacts and Calculator refuse to run in VGA mode. That said, however, Pocket IE *does* work, and provides a nice picture like the one shown. When I'm away from a PC and need to spend some time browsing I'll use ozVGA to switch to true VGA and deal with the other issues so I can get a better browser interface.
Of course... why MS configured IE to enlarge the size of some images in non-VGA mode without providing a way to turn off that 'feature' is entirely beyond me.
Brett

Can you explain how you managed to get OzVGA to work with WM5? I install it, then my XDA Exec doesn't boot into the today screen. I tried twice (with a hard reset).

when i tried it, i would sometimes get past the password screen before it locked up other times i could get to the somewhat oddley arranged today screen before it locked up, had to hard reset to get it back.
but ruddy hell, it was small and sharp!!

We just need someone with a K-Jam to rip the 96dpi dlls and pass them over. We then need to work out how WM5 calls the dlls depending on resolution because it appears to do it in a different way to WM2003SE.

Mart said:
Can you explain how you managed to get OzVGA to work with WM5? I install it, then my XDA Exec doesn't boot into the today screen. I tried twice (with a hard reset).
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I'm not sure what to tell you... I didn't do anything special, I just installed it and it worked (with the limitations I mentioned above). I've also switched to VGA mode by manually editing the registry, so you might want to try that.
Brett

Is it really as simple to get a VGA display as installing this program and clicking for it to proceed? I've got an XDA2s running WinMobile2003SE, still possible?

ashleyhall said:
Is it really as simple to get a VGA display as installing this program and clicking for it to proceed? I've got an XDA2s running WinMobile2003SE, still possible?
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No.
You must have a VGA capable display to begin with. The XDA2s is QVGA.

I can understand why Microsoft have enlarged VGA mode, but why they didn't make this a user-selectable option is beyond me. One of the main reasons that I purchased an XDA Exec is so I could browse the web in VGA...

ashleyhall - if you want to try VGA, try nyditot software. You won't be able to read anything going QVGA to VGA, but it'll give you an idea!
I find on a Magician, going about 30% bigger is still quite usable.
V

Thanks for your replies - so the nyditot software would allow me to upsize my resolution on the XDA2s? I may just wait actually!
I don't understand why on the XDA Exec they didn't supply this as a Switchable option as in WinXP - but on the Exec is it then just the case of installing the ozVGA and away you go in high resolution?

ashleyhall - you can convert the qvga display to show VGA using that software, but the screen physically doesn't have the resolution, ie fine enough pixels, to show it well. So you'll have 4 times the screen space, but everything will be quite ugly. But as I said, good to get an idea of how it looks. I have to test some of my programs using this, so it comes in handy.
I recommend backing up before using the software. It's safe, but it can ocassionaly cause you to get stuck on a configuration you can't get out of if you don't know what to do, so restore from a backup.
V

Hi could you with a universal please try this site for me www.followus.co.uk enter a user name and password (anything will do) then see if the login button works, This dose not work for me, It also did not work on my 2i and as Netfront dose not seem to work on 2005.
Any ideas Please.....
John

Does anyone know any other web browsers for Windows Mobile 2005 that will let you browse the net in true VGA (640x480) resolution?

Mart said:
Does anyone know any other web browsers for Windows Mobile 2005 that will let you browse the net in true VGA (640x480) resolution?
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The only one that's currently available is Minimo .010, but unfortunately while it works and it looks beautiful it's so slow that it's unusable. Apparently Netfront and Thunderbird are both in the works, but neither is available right now.
Brett

oz VGA and MDA Pro
Hi, the only real solution at the moment seems to be using an app called res2exe and compiling your own executable of say Opera. I dont have the visual studio to compile this myself, so right now I am using ozVGA sucessfully. My suggestion for the moment would be to use ozVGA and then the reg hack for IE6 mode. Seems to work well.
I have attached some examples taken from my MDA PRO.

sample screens
sample

Think you forgot to attach the samples, hehe! Very interested to see any VGA examples, particularly if anyone has an example of an XDA2s using that ozVGA??

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3g camera as webcam?

Hi i was just wondering if the camera on the front of the device can be used as a webcam while on msn messenger?Or if perhaps in some way it could be modified.It'd just be a cool thing to have when your away!cheers
if you mean a webcam for your pc then do a search for webcam in the forum because the universal would as much possible to act as the role of webcam as any other htc device with a cam
No i mean a webcam in itself.Since it will be capable of 3g calls i see n reason reason why i couldn't,in some shape or form be a webcam in itself while on msn on the ppc.Perhaps with some tweaking,i don't know just a question
oohh ok well does messenger pocket support webcams at all ?
i dident think it did
if it does it just need to support the htc cam
with ms portrait they dident support htc cams
if it does not support webcams then maybe in a future version
theres no options for it i can see, shame tho, i use jasjar alot on wifi and it could have so much potential for msnm
maybe in the next version
Carnivor said:
theres no options for it i can see, shame tho, i use jasjar alot on wifi and it could have so much potential for msnm
maybe in the next version
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As first step have a look at http://www.zone1.de/PocketPC/LxCam.html
LxCam is working with MDA pro / HTC Universal.
Conclusion: HTC camera was found.
Wi-Fi-streaming is ok, but slow.
Greetings. Gerd Dubrand
cant open that page afaik
Carnivor said:
cant open that page afaik
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Try again without tailing point: http://www.zone1.de/PocketPC/LxCam.html
Greetings. Gerd Dubrand
soz but i think you got the wrong end of the stick there,
agreed that is good and has it been successfull on the universal?? if so im gonna grab that baby!!!!!, If im correct that app is used to use the universal "AS" the webcam for a desktop pc, for use in msnm etc, but im on about pocket msnm actually on the phone, using the webcam within the phones version, surlly that is a big oops by M$ specially as theyre charging for the upgrade to the version on the universal
argh, to many different versions of the same thing!
Doesn't work on my JasJar. It complains: "Error opening HTCcamera.dll" or something along those lines.
it works on mine mda pro.
It uses the 1.3MP camera instead of the Cmos one..
And the screen is upside down on the pc, and i must hold the camera also upside down to get a straight picture.
its a great app !
It's a shame it cannot be used as a webcam in pocket msnm.Would be a great feature
LxCam Special-Edition for MDA Pro / HTC Universal arrived via mail from author. No more problems with upsidedown. Videostream via WLAN, have a look:
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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Download: http://www.virtual-gadgets.com/download/LxCam1.01.exe (Update 2005-09-24: this is the MDA Pro- / HTC Universal-SpecialEdition)
Greetings. Gerd Dubrand
I am hoping they are working on an API that will allow the second camera to be used as a webcam. I know MSN Portrait supports that on previous PPCs that had to have an camera installed via SDIO/card, so I don't see why it wouldn't be able to do the same with a built in cam
Bran1722 said:
I am hoping they are working on an API that will allow the second camera to be used as a webcam. I know MSN Portrait supports that on previous PPCs that had to have an camera installed via SDIO/card, so I don't see why it wouldn't be able to do the same with a built in cam
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I e-mailed them and asked about future support. The reply was
" Thanks for your support. We may support windows mobile 5.0 in near
future."
So let's keep our fingers crossed. This would be the killer app.
videolan
Did someone tried http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-wince.html ? it's a really really good video/music player (ogg included) and can stream videos over the network.
GPL software
Dubrand said:
Carnivor said:
cant open that page afaik
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Try again without tailing point: http://www.zone1.de/PocketPC/LxCam.html
Greetings. Gerd Dubrand
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Also perhaps http://www.zone1.de/PocketPC/index.html#webcam
Any bode know if there are something new in about webcam on JasJar
Turn your new HTC pda into a webcam!
Turn your HTC PDA into a webcam
(a little slow and not as good quality as internal video, but still a neat little trick)
Note **** This is a trial version for 14 days ****
1. Download the following files
http://www.virtual-gadgets.com/download/LxCamView.exe
http://www.virtual-gadgets.com/download/LxCam1.01.exe
2. Copy LxCamView to the desktop computer and make a shortcut
3. Copy LxCam1.01.exe to the pda and make a shortcut
4. On Desktop/server, configure the firewall appropriately: add a TCP service with IP address of the Pocket PC (or internal lan or allow any device) with port number 4444
5. Start Wifi or Activesync Connnection
6. Start LxCamView on the desktop computer
7. Start LxCam1.01.exe on the pda
8. Select tools, then select ip address, enter ip address of pc/workstation,select ok
You should see the image!
On Pocket PC, setting HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Zone1\LxCam\Rotate to 1 rotates the picture by 180 degrees
He also has a great photo app that takes pictures with the pda camera and auto ftp's them to your web site... The photo app was cheap and works well on my jasjar, pda2k and my son's hp6315.
Check out this developers web site for more info
http://www.zone1,de
and no, I don't have anything to do with this web site or developer; I just thought he had a couple of good apps....
Does this work as a webcam for MSN? I know there used to be an app that did it for other PPCs, but that it didn't work for MSN.

Full screen terminal services client - I DID IT!

WOOHOO! Works on both WM2003 (tested on emulator) and WM5 (tested on real life MDA PRO). Also works in portrait or landscape mode! 8)
I hope to finish the app in about 3 days, then I will release it for free along with full source code in VB.NET and C# (probably under the GNU GPL).
Until then, you can enjoy these lovely screenshots, full VGA screen terminal services is REAL nice, beats VNC any day! :lol: :lol:
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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Way cool.
Kim
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Well done, sl9. I think you're going to be a popular person here!
sl9 said:
Until then, you can enjoy these lovely screenshots, full VGA screen terminal services is REAL nice, beats VNC any day! :lol: :lol:
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You sure? Could I ask why?
Until Terminal Services allows me to see my full (3-display) 4800x1200 desktop on my Universal, VNC will be the only solution for me. At the moment, when I log in using Terminal Services my desktop is resized to 640x480 which is not only annoying but rather pointless. :roll: (And yes, I've tried checking and unchecking the 'resize desktop' box on my Universal with no success. :?
SiliconS, what on earth are you compensating for with a desktop that big! I'm so jealous! I have to admit, I way prefer VNC.
sl9 - did you inevstigate if there's any way to force the client into stretch mode?
V
Well played.
Looking forward to the release.
vijay555 said:
SiliconS, what on earth are you compensating for with a desktop that big! I'm so jealous! I have to admit, I way prefer VNC.
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lol My wife would surely say "nothing" but I'm not going to ask her, just in case...
There's no substitute for desktop real estate when I'm coding a website. Laying all the windows (Photoshop, Homesite, Firefox, IE, Acrobat etc) out in one layer is so much more convenient for me.
It's not an expensive set up either. A standard dual-head AGP graphics card (VGA + DVI) and a £30 PCI (16MB!!!) graphics card from Maplin, with three 19" Belinea CRT monitors that are 8 years old. Each running at 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz.
I highly recommend it. 8) One day I'll replace the monitors with TFTs and then we'll be flying, baby!
SiliconS: I agree, I really need a bigger setup. I've got a 19inch TFT but you really need multimonitor when coding or designing.
Have you tried the citrix client? I got a few requests about that, and then everyone vanished...
V
vijay555 said:
Have you tried the citrix client?
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No - was experimenting with VNC but didn't take it far. It's nice to know I can do it but it's not something I need on a regular basis.
Likewise; I suppose it's the kind of thing you need or you don't.
Remote control (eg remote winamp) turned out to be a better solution.
V
Hmm. Sorry sl9, I seem to have hijacked this thread. Apologies.
vijay555 said:
sl9 - did you inevstigate if there's any way to force the client into stretch mode?
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Depends what you mean by "stretch mode"? You mean like VNC does, keep same resolution of desktop and have scrollbars? I don't think that's possible with the MS TSC client, although I'm going to experiment with Nyditot Virtual Display next to see if that can trick TSC into giving a larger display area
Sorry but...what is service terminal for?
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You mean like VNC does, keep same resolution of desktop and have scrollbars?
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If you did mean this, then yeah just use the .NET VNC viewer. My needs are different to yours, I actually want the desktop resized to 640x480 full screen and a thin client (which VNC is not), leaving only TSC or Citrix. Each to their own
sl9: Re Stretching the display, if you follow this thread it seemed to be a fairly popular request, and my opinion from playing with the MSTS registry is that the client seems hardcoded to 640x480.
After we got the Universal working in VGA it seemed there was little need left for it though...
V
err yea i need to know as well.....whats the benenfit of a tsc to a vnc? i've only used vnc before./.........
I'm wondering if you're going to allow the user to choose which resolution they connect to the server at... I'd find that INCREDIBLY useful - maybe even more so than having just full screen mode.
That's what I'm saying NinjaDonkey, after I did fullscreen Terminal Services the question was whether we could increase resolution.
If you read that thread I queried some registry settings, and if they can be mirrored across from the desktop version (the one you get if you run mstsc.exe on your pc).
But it seems that colour depth and resolution are all fixed in the PocketPC client, so we're stuck with 640x480. It's ideal on the Universal though!
V
afhstingray said:
err yea i need to know as well.....whats the benenfit of a tsc to a vnc? i've only used vnc before./.........
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TSC is a proper thin client, this means if you log into a PC with TSC, a new session is created and you can use that PC at the same time as a local user without interfering with each other. You cannot do that with VNC, as it's just a screen scraper.
vijay555 said:
my opinion from playing with the MSTS registry is that the client seems hardcoded to 640x480.
After we got the Universal working in VGA it seemed there was little need left for it though...
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If you tick the box that says "limit size of desktop to fit this screen" in TSC, it actually re-sizes itself a bit smaller than 640x480 (something like 640x428), to "fit" the screen. It may be possible to trick it using SystemParametersInfo into thinking that the screen is actually 1280x1024 (for example), but that's a big maybe.
As for real VGA mode, some of us (me included) prefer things the way they are, but would still like some apps like terminal services to use all of the screen.
NinjaDonkey said:
I'm wondering if you're going to allow the user to choose which resolution they connect to the server at... I'd find that INCREDIBLY useful - maybe even more so than having just full screen mode.
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This may be possible, see answer above and watch this space.
OK that means I can run a desktop win session on my JJ?

safari in windows mobile released

Yes, now you can enjoy Safari in Windows Mobile, the same browser that iPhone has, here side by side comparison (here: desktop version of CNN website in HTC Touch Diamond and in Apple iPhone 3G):
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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}
In reality the truth is a bit different: Torch Mobile company has released a beta version of their Iris for Windows Mobile that uses Webkit rendering engine - an open source project of Apple - the very same that Safari for iPhone is using. You can download it in beta version here:
http://www.torchmobile.com/download
More information about Iris:
Iris Browser™ for Windows Mobile® 5 & 6 is now available for free download! Simply register with us by providing your name and contact information and download the CAB to your PC or directly to your phone. Then follow along as Torch Mobile makes regular improvements to the browser, adding new features, making it faster, and generally improving the user experience.
Please remember that this is early preview software
Our impressions: it is rendering web pages exactly the same as Safari for iPhone but is slower, what may change after final version will be relesaed.
Only WM6?
(forget my post!)
i like it works great on my sprint mogul, now i can use this in addition to skyfire thanks for the notice
Any further Notes? I Just hardresetted and reinstalled my Vario. Don't want a buggy app to destroy this harmony
Actually i'm using the Opera Beta... Does it use the "double tap to overview" mode like opera does? This feature i'm missing the most in other apps.
Better? Worse?
Video
Found a user-video:
http://home.datacomm.ch/mandm/iris browser review.wmv
Has Potential
Found it very sluggish on my Kaiser. Some very obvious things missing:
1. No direct input for a URL. Why go via their start page (money?)
2. No automatic page overview (a la Opera Mini/Safari) when you first go to a website.
I will keep an eye on it as I think it could develop into a very good browser. Let's face it, Internet Explorer is hardly competition these days!
Aw... just tried it now
Feels very similar to opera, with some more (nice?) effects... doubletap is also enabled....
Plus: Easy to use, you can activate a virtual mouse cursor and scroll via D-Pad, built in traffic counter
Minus: but in the whole it feels a little slower and takes more RAM. Scrolling isn't that smooth.
Just my opinion after 5 minutes testing.
People! People! Those misleading headlines from msmobiles.com don't have to follow us to XDA-Developers! Safari?! I expect to see something smarter in the development forum. Just say a WebKit-based browser or something of that sort.
I'm sorry, but I was annoyed by the repeated inappropriate titles by msmobiles and now they're here.
yep the title is wrong... should be corrected...
i knew this browser already and i have to say it didn´t become better yet... it´s still so slow and buggy... i will wait until it´s really final
Works fine even on WM6 standard, just tried it in my HTC Vox, however it's slow... Maybe it runs better on 400 Mhz & faster devices?
The visual history is cool though, reminds me of the browser that was in my Nokia N73, it looked better in N73 though.
Also the mouse cursor is very handy.
An annoying thing is that it uses the same cache as IE, the browser installs fine on the storage card but it very quickly eats up a lot of the phone storage while browsing...
There should be an option to turn off all the transition effects, it's nice eye candy but I guess disabling it could improve performance a bit.
This is one slow browser! Slower than PIE. Has alot of catching up to be like safari or Opera Mobile.
sorry but i still can't find a browser which stands up to NetFront 3.5 considering the speed, the comfortness and the fact that it supports loads of languages.
nir36 said:
sorry but i still can't find a browser which stands up to NetFront 3.5 considering the speed, the comfortness and the fact that it supports loads of languages.
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Can netfront download anything?
I second NetFront 3.5, it's been a topnotch browser for me, and I've tried em all. Opera is good but web pages doesn't look as good as in NetFront. The ONLY thing I wish NetFront had, and correct me if I just missed something, is the initial Overview when entering a page, like OperaMini for instance. So you'd see the whole page instead of Zoom as default.
//Nik
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Can netfront download anything?
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Yes, you can download files and it's actually very comfortable. you click on a zip file for instance and it just asks you where to save it.. main memory or storage card and in which dir.
nikjensie said:
I second NetFront 3.5, it's been a topnotch browser for me, and I've tried em all. Opera is good but web pages doesn't look as good as in NetFront. The ONLY thing I wish NetFront had, and correct me if I just missed something, is the initial Overview when entering a page, like OperaMini for instance. So you'd see the whole page instead of Zoom as default.
//Nik
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There are many viewing and zooming options in this browser.. i didn't check if you can get a full page view as default... but you CAN get a fullpage view by double clicking the screen so you can choose which part of the screen you want to zoom in on.
wonderful app in my eyes.
this is it, by the way:
http://rapidshare.com/files/117817843/NFB35EN_WMPRO_R007CV.CAB
enjoy.
I'm in the NetFront 3.5 camp as well. Nothing I have tried has been as nice to use as NetFront. I've tried all of the new iterations of Opera, and none of them are as fast and intuitive as NF.
I'm even using it now to make this reply.
The momenum scrolling is great, and the only real issue I have with it is the ''out of memory'' errors that I get when loading large graphics-heavy pages.
Thanks for the download link for NF. I'll try it out later.
TSK TSK.. I was browsing the forum till i got to see this headline.
IMMEDIATELY I thought to myself wow sounds JUST LIKE something out of msmobiles...
Well, im not surprised to find out this actually did come from them.
We don't need this sensationalist CRAP. I avoid msmobiles at ALL COSTS, Their stories are SO unprofessionally written they are LAUGHABLE. Seriously, its SO BAD it makes my eyes hurt.
Im serious. Go to their website all you will see is "ZOMG MICROSOFTZ IZ NEGLECTING WINDOWZ MOBILE SILVERLIGHT TILT SENSORZZZZZ ZOMG SYMBIAN IPHONE"
My God, mods please lock this thread. =(
wow. angrier fella than i am... that's rare.
Netfront guys; How do I get it to be seen a full fledged browser and not a mobile browser? Sites constantly force their mobile versions on (Google, iGoogle, CNN, etc.) when I really want to see their full versions. I didn't see a setting to alter how the browser is seen by web sites it visits. Thanks.

Internet Explorer Mobile 6 - Preview

Today at Tech•Ed EMEA we announced the availability of emulators and documentation for Internet Explorer Mobile 6, which is the next generation browser for Windows Mobile. Available on new Windows Mobile devices soon, this browser will provide a high-quality browsing experience on your device that more closely resembles a desktop browsing experience. For all you developers, the Internet Explorer Mobile 6 Emulator is available for download today
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
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"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Some of the cool features available with Internet Explorer Mobile 6 are:
Improved fidelity (support for full fidelity desktop rendering)
Layout fixes to accommodate a mobile screen (text wrap)
Enhanced Script and AJAX support (Jscript v5.7 from Internet Explorer 8)
Improved multimedia experience (Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 for Adobe Flash content)
Deeper integration with search
Enhanced cursor navigation model
Touch and gesture support – pan support
Multiple zoom levels
Easy switching between mobile / desktop versions of sites by specifying UA strings
Info and download from: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/11/11/internet-explorer-mobile-6.aspx
Mirror Downloads:
Windows Mobile 6.1.4 Professional Images (USA).msi 320.8 MB
Windows Mobile 6.1.4 Standard Images (USA).msi 218.3 MB
Edit - 13/11/08
A Microsoft employee seems to be answering some questions. See later in the thread HERE.
Edit - 18/11/08
REVIEW: INTERNET EXPLORER Mobile 6 for Windows Mobile - VGA screenshots!
Curtsey of kdskamal
Internet Explorer Mobile 6, which is the next generation browser for Windows Mobile.
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Yeah Right !!!, thats the last Explorer i'll use in my ppc
lol, it actually looks promising. I have Opera on my Diamond and it crashes a lot especially when rotating. And it causes Manila to crash too when you close Opera.
So maybe this can be a good thing.
MAYBE being the keyword there.
I've read some reviews about the new IE6 for WM6 and i consider Opera offers a better usability and modern user interface, but may be MS bring us finally a decent Browser
Some of the cool features available with Internet Explorer Mobile 6 are:
Improved multimedia experience (Adobe Flash Lite 3.1 for Adobe Flash content)
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Does this mean that PIE will finally be able to play Flash content (i.e. Youtube)? If I can use this to get rid of Skyfire, I will be a happy man!
I'll wait and see. Microsoft promised alot over the years, but didn't actually deliver most of the time.
Hope they prove me wrong though. Until then, i'll keep my Opera 9.
Any chance of riping this out of the emulator and making a cab for all us? It's something that is beyond my skill or I would give it a shot.
asbestos said:
Any chance of riping this out of the emulator and making a cab for all us? It's something that is beyond my skill or I would give it a shot.
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working on that. dont know yet if it has to be cooked in. also, there are no 320x240 emulator images available. that probably wont matter.
edit: ok there is 320x240 available. its 5.2.20757 AKU 1.4.0. nothing new here.
downloaded and tried it. it was slow as hell on the emulator.
lol. microsoft say everything they do is the next generation of things.
that doesn't mean it's a better generation
how does this look?
conflipper said:
how does this look?
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ohhh gr8!!!!!!!
finally flash on PIE
seems to be very nice so far. that is on my CDMA diamond.
Did I miss something? How is this different from the PIE6 that's in the DFT rom I've been using since Septemeber?
What gets me is that the WM team are saying it won't be available as a download or upgrade because "the rich media experiences that IE Mobile 6 enables require more powerful, advanced devices".
Excuse me? Why then can others like OPera offer the same (or even better) on existing AND older devices?
It's a joke!
because they have so bad programmers who can´t manage that on slower cpus
Its like xp and vista, if you want vista to run you need to double or quadruble your RAM only because of some glassy windows. They are so incompetent. it is lousy programming: if its to slow, buy another faster cpu !
Is there a cab available for download yet then?
Surur
bluemetalaxe said:
because they have so bad programmers who can´t manage that on slower cpus
Its like xp and vista, if you want vista to run you need to double or quadruble your RAM only because of some glassy windows. They are so incompetent. it is lousy programming: if its to slow, buy another faster cpu !
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I guess bluemetal has a point in here although that is not the whole story. You see, the only way for these clowns to make money on mobile software is by selling it to device manufacturers, so if they are going to continue making software for mobile devices they have to make absolutely certain that the public thinks that there will be no chance in hell of getting "prettier" software on their older devices. By doing so, they push the sale of newer devices, and indirectly their new OS' to the public. To make things even more convincing, they release these ridiculous statements about how the devices are not powerful enough to handle it. I mean, why do you think that they have not offered upgrades to older phones (WM2003 to WM5 or WM5 to WM6)? It certainly is possible to do that (says a guy who has had a Blue Angel since early 2005 running an OS version that most new phones still don't have). Bluemetal's statement needs a small correction, it isn't that their programmers are bad (at least not all of them), but the code is written like that on purpose. Can the code be cleaned up for it to run better, faster, and in older devices? Hell Yes!!! Do they want to? F&^k No!!!!! (it is bad for business...
I can't seem to get the emulator to connect to the Internet. I've gone into File->Configure and selected my network card on the Networks tab, and the emulator appears to connect fine (icon in taskbar shows a connection, and then prompts me to choose "connects to Work or The Internet," as expected). But when I go into IE6, I can't get any pages to load. Just a "no DNS found" error each time. Is there some other setting I need to tweak somewhere?
conflipper said:
seems to be very nice so far. that is on my CDMA diamond.
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Do you mean you have installed this on an actual phone instead of using the image and emulator?

Opera Mini 5 beta is available

www.opera.com/next
All in all it's just a new interface and copy and paste functionality...
I'm a bit disappointed..
I can see Sh*t on my Xperia 800*480 3' display... Everything is so tiny that is unusable...
They should put some setting to make zoomed interface for bigger resolution (like Xperia)
Also old problem using large font size is causing overlapping of letters... and all looks mixed up .. . is not solved...
So almost nothing has been changed of all problem that I had on my Xperia... and all WVGA resolution Mobile phones...
One more thing: Automatic changing (when opening keyboard) from portrait to landscape does not work
Opera Mini 5 beta is now available
This is the day you've all been waiting for! Opera Mini 5 beta is hereby ready for download.
As you know, we've been working on this version for quite a while. When you see the end result, we're sure you'll think the waiting was worthwhile. To download, go to http://m.opera.com/next, but please note that phone support varies from previous versions of Opera Mini.
Some key features:
* New, sleek design
* Tabbed browsing
* Password manager
* Inline text editing
* Copy-and-paste function
* We have made a special, native version for BlackBerry which includes opening links and copy-and-paste functions
Known issues:
* No Android version yet, but we're working on it :smile:
* All Palm devices will have to stick with 4.2, as they aren't capable of running 5
* Downloads, feeds and Opera Link are all disabled in the Beta while we polish the implementation
* Devices with little memory may have problems, in general, and some may not be able to run Opera Mini 5 at all.
* Devices with small resolution (less than QVGA, 240 в 320) are not recommended to try the beta
For more info, please read the press release
As always, we welcome your feedback in our forum, and please report any bugs in our bug report wizard. Thanks!
Enjoy Opera Mini 5 beta! :yes:
Best regards,
The Opera Mini team
Lol, hello!
Well the view switch problem is annoying......
awesome i love it already but what i miss is Opera Link inside
And still no version of Opera Mobile 9.7 beta. And 9.7 has the turbo mode already. I hope that they will release the final 9.7 version soon.
loved it now. im gonna say goodbye to opera mini 4.2.... i miss you forever
vietdoan20062006
vietdoan20062006 said:
loved it now. im gonna say goodbye to opera mini 4.2.... i miss you forever
vietdoan20062006
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Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...
VelikiMeshtar said:
Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...
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Well, basically it can do much more than 4.2, like tabbed browsing.
Rendering is perfect. And it's REALLY fast.
It has bugs of course but another miracle has been done.
I find Opera mini 5 extremely fast at loading pages, easily the quickest mobile browser ive used.
VelikiMeshtar said:
Some users have reported that new OM5 beta is battery eater.. it consumes up to 3 times more resources than old OM4.2...
I think that I'm going to stick to good old OM4.2 until they resolve this big energy consumption problem...
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Uuuh, that would not be nice. I really do love the new 5 beta. Before I couldn't believe that there would be a big improvement possible but it really is. Great browser!
I really like this new browser, and I havent got to use all its features yet.
Some problems with drop down menus on a web page, but maybe this could also be an issue with the website coding itself, ie not browser friendly.
Anyone know why when installed on my phone it has the java logo instead of the Opera one?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Use Mauro Venturini shortcut creator for changing the icon. You can copy icon from Opera mobile.
Actually for me this beta works nice. I would not use it, since it does not have opera link yet, so I can't use all my bookmarks .. and if some page was rendered bad in old opera mini, it is the same here, as it is more problem of Opera proxy servers (it is same with Opera mobile turbo mode).
Anyway all I can say is I like it.
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Anyone know why when installed on my phone it has the java logo instead of the Opera one?
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because its a java applet not a windows app. Same as if you installed java need for speed or something
VelikiMeshtar said:
Opera Mini 5 beta is now available ...
.... To download, go to http://m.opera.com/next, but please note that phone support varies from previous versions of Opera Mini.
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If I follow the online instructions, my X1a then opens a Java app and indicates that it is installing a "midlet". After 30 sec it shows an error(?)
If I go to the Opera website via my desktop's browser to see if I can download an installer, I see a 'JAD' and 'JAR' download, but I don't know which is appropriate(?)
Please advise ...
TIA
rarewolf said:
Please advise ...
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Anyone?

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