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MDA/XDA II Buglist

Ok, I guess quite a few of us are now usig the MDA/XDA II and have made our experiences.
I think it is time to start collecting the different bugs and "features", so that maybe the guys here can start fixing them. Maybe even O2/T-Mobile or HTC might startt doing something.
I'll start with my contributions:
1) SMS: The SMS-Application doesn't copy the "+" from the phone number when you select through the contacts application. See also: http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3198
2) Bluetooth: Right now, this seems to work mostly as a marketing gag, considering the very limited profiles supported. The list of missing profiles keeps getting longer, including HFREE, PAN and others. In fact, it might make sense to collect the experiences of successful bonds in a dedicated thread.
3) BT-Headset: Even when it does work, the performance is shaky s you can see here: http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3548
4) Phone On/Off: Turning the phone on/off seems to have gotten less user friendly than on the old MDA. Now you always need to get out your stylus, which can be quite a hassle when you are standing at the gate getting on a plane - with your suitcase in the other hand. See also: http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3553
5) Google: Ok, this seems to be a problem on almost all WM2003 devices when I look at all the suff on the web about this issue. Still, it would be nice if it would work :wink:
6) Wireless Modem: Well, you would expect that they include the driver on the CD wouldn't you.

7. The MDA II closes open programms as soon as you open another large programm. Like a device with no memory. You cannot keep large programms open at the same time (e.g. Pocket Informant, PIE, Total Commander, aso.) , so they would be accessible more quickly if you choose them over an taskmanager.

Have a look at this, it would tell you something about this "closingbug":
http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3477

Xda USB Modem driver
The USB modem driver *is* on the disk. There are no drivers for Serial, Bluetooth on Infrared.
ANyway, the infrared requires a public domain add-on to work...

Hi
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
Does anyone has the same experince ?

Not sure if this could be considered a bug, but I have yet to be able to receive a video MMS sent by either a P800 or a Nokia 7650. Have successfully sent one to a 7650 though. On the UK O2 network.

sorry could not post a link !
but here is a hummdinger !
try the following hit the "Wireless" icon and note how long it takes for the dialogue box to pop up then hit the "Turn the radio off" hotspot.. You will notice much longer delays before it performs the task, the same happens when you have switched it off and then attempt to "Switch the radio on". A further prob is with the Volume control....do the following...call your voicemail "long" press the green phone key, now when the speakerphone is on , reduce the volume with the side "Slider" when it is at minimum try to increase it...it don’t work you can only use the stylus on the screen, if you allow, after reducing the volume, the dialog to disappear then try to increase the volume with the slider it works again, then if with the dialogue displayed you then end the call the dialogue will appear to be stuck on screen, and only disappear after about 10 secs...

Xant said:
Hi
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
Does anyone has the same experince ?
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same here. happens all the time and that´s not funny. Called O2 Tech Support and they said (of course) that i´m the first to report that problem. can´t really believe that.
it´s very annoying

Xant said:
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
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Have you turned on the homezone indicator? Everytime your mobile phone changes the cell, the homezone indicator updates itself, causing the XDA to turn on.
Christian

I also have the problem of not being able to recieve a video MMS from a 7650, I phoned o2 support on Tuesday and they said they would look into it and call me back on Wednesday, Well its now Saterday and i have not had a call back from them. Its good to see they sill use the same calender where next day means we dont have a answer so we wont bother to call you back
John

Buffer full / crash on transcriber/Notepad
8.) Buffer full / crash on transcriber/Notepad
Waring: Maybe you should do a backup before you try this....
How to cause:
- Go to Notpad
- Change to "Transcriber"-recognition
- Start to enter by writing normal letter/words: >> ok, works
- Try to "fill/paint the whole Screen" without (!) removing the pen from screen: After some seconds the Buffer will be full, constant Signal will apear if you touch the screen again
- Regognition won't work anymore
How to resolve the "full buffer" (seems to be the reason for me):
- Soft reset, okay
BUT:
- Xda2 behaves unstable afterwards.
You might get messages like this:
"camera.exe is not a valid apllication"
"media player is not a valid apllication"
So you need a "hard reset" with all the data gone.
(Maybe a sync is still possible - I didn't try this yet)
Okay, maybe not a Killer-Bug.
But now it's impossible to hand over the xda2 to my friends cause' they know how to "kill" my pda
Don't know is it's a xda2-specific bug or caused by OS.
Justaname

3 bugs?: text colour, letter recogniser, transciber
Great PDA - I've had an XDA for a few days and have been using it extenisvely (having had an iPAQH3850 for 2 years). The power of having a combined PDA, phone & camera/video is great. However, I've got a couple of problems. Anyone else had them or know how to fix them? (soft reset doesn't help- I haven't tried a hard reset yet):
1) Funny coloured text: some of the letters on the screen are brown rather than black. In particular the following letter combinations: 'in' and 'll'
2) 'Ghost' characters in 'Letter recogniser' mode. I write quickly using 'Letter recogniser' mode. Sometimes a grey outline of the character I've drawn stays for a fraction longer than I'd expect so that I end up writing the next character over the previous character. More noticeable in the 'numbers/special charcters' section on the right of the letter recogniser window.
3) Change of font/script when correcting words in 'Transciber' mode. The transciber mode is not bad at recognising my handwriting scrawl. However, if a word is interpreted incorrectly and I highlight the word and then rewrite the word, the new interprtation appears lowerdown on the line than the rest of the text (like MS Word's 'subscript')

chrissi75 said:
Xant said:
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
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Have you turned on the homezone indicator? Everytime your mobile phone changes the cell, the homezone indicator updates itself, causing the XDA to turn on.
Christian
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yay, that was it. thx a lot

Andy said:
chrissi75 said:
Xant said:
It seems that my XDA II turns on spurious ( not often, but sometimes), which is not nice when having it in my pocket.
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Have you turned on the homezone indicator? Everytime your mobile phone changes the cell, the homezone indicator updates itself, causing the XDA to turn on.
Christian
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yay, that was it. thx a lot
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But it is still a bug and I hope they intend to fix it, as it is rather interessting to know if I have contact to my homezone or not.

Hi
Got an other one. The alarm function seems not to work reliable. First I thought I missed the alarm due to much drinks the evening before but this morning I woke up before, but no alarm from my XDA. Instead when I turn the XDA on manually, it notified me about the alarm.
I also noticed it with a meeting.
I don't need an alarm clock I have to turn on manually...
btw... Is there some action to fix the reported bugs... either O2 or M$

new annoying bug
OK I just had a new REALLY annoying bug happen last night.
First i found that GPRS kept dialing up every time i diconnected it - i thought it must have been because ie was open in the background so i went and closed all runing programs but it still kept dialling up GPRS whenever i disconnected.
Then I received an sms but when i viewed it in Inbox, the parts of the stripy background that are usually white where really dark grey making it almost impossible to read anything on the screen... so i decided it was time for a soft reset.
but instead of soft resetting it did a hard reset so I've now got to re-install everything!!!!! :x

Pope,
The GPRS dial up could be to do with your network settings. In fact an awful lot of issues where the PDA switches on for no reason are probably that.
I've always found 'interesting' problems with ActiveSync where it switches on the PDA periodically (it's nothing specific to the XDA II as it also happened with the Fujitsu Loox and the Viewsonic V37). I always 'close' activesync (using vBar) when I'm not using it for this reason!
I recently spent ages with the XDA II trying to get it not to switch on after I'd set up a blue tooth link with my laptop. Had to change some of the network settings to stop it (but can't remember what) ... even 'resetting' the PDA hadn't fixed the problem.

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Pope, I too have had a Hard Reset occur without knowingly doing it.
As far as I am aware I did not press the power on off button, when I soft reset, and it just did a hard reset.
I was having problems with an app that froze though, and just figured it was that.
Anyone else expereienced this ?
Cheers, Shire

I installed the upgrade at www.clubimate.com
Some noticeable changes after the upgrade:-
Fast switchoff of the phone, though u still have to use the stylus
The missed call red blink of the LED stays red (at least for the few minutes I checked) instead of turning back to green after a minute as in the past
The + in SMS is added when chosing from the contacts menu. I think this was a problem in the past
I had difficulty in installing SanDisk Wi-Fi software in the previous version. Went smoothly on the upgraded one.

membership??
I tried to sign up but I don't have the EMI whatever # ... any chance you can e-mail me this fix software?
[email protected]

Make your XDA I/II turn itself off after new SMS faster,etc.

So, after diggin' for long time in registry on Pocket PC 2002 ROMs I've found nice feature - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\
(may vary cause this is from 2003 ROM, for now I have but was like this and works on 2002), has value WakeUpPowerOff = 180 (by default).
This value (in seconds) determines, how long device will be on after:
1. power on by "power" button (and no other activity - no taps, no any hardware buttons pressing) - it userful for example to see "what's on
today", time, etc...
2. power on by incoming event like SMS or calendar one.
And after you touch screen\ other button - then as I found starts another, "original" timer, defined in Start->Settings->System->Power.
I've set above WakeUp parameter to WakeUpPowerOff = 12 (smallest that works really at mine device) and what I got? This:
When I need to look into today's or time or missed calls etc - I just press power look at screen and devices turns iself off byself. Not great effort but - heh - longer live for power button
But this is more important: When incomes SMS (I have gate from internet inbox to sms so have a lot of smses) - devices comes on only for 12 secs - for day it increases significantly battery life. (aha - 180sec and 12sec - differs!) (etc...). So we can set auto Off timer for 1 minute and work in normal mode (when we tap or read something, smaller is not so much siutable), but with this WakeUp timer also when we don't use device we get very small time to byself on\off-ing and longer battery life.
But after appearing 2003 in my wallaby and then after bying himalaya I have changed this parameter with no effect.
Now I find solution!
We need to change one more parameter in that registry subdirectory named:
DisableGwesPowerOff=1 by defalut. Simpy set it to 0.
And now on my XDA II (and on XDA I with 2003) this hacks works.
I think this will be userful for our XDA community. Thanks for paying attention for this text.

Hey, that is a very, very cool hack! I have always been annoyed when my XDA2 is in my pocket and I receive an SMS when I can't reply. During the 2 minutes before it switches itself off I find that the screen gets pressed a lot in my pocket with sometimes disastrous results.
This hack seems to have no side-effects at all. The XDA2 stays switched on in the cradle and changing the Power-off-on-battery setting doesn't reset this auto-off timer.
I dare to suggest even that it is perfect! Thank you very much nugged.

Thank you realy love this one :idea:
Works fine with 5sec off on XDAII.
goodluck

2 SiliconS: That's some kind of pleasure to share with info and to help.
2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Anyway - it's works.

I've just had a thought: does this hack affect the alarms and appointment notifications? Does the machine turn itself off after 12 seconds and stop the alarm working? That might be a problem for some people if so. I can't test at the moment - my wife is asleep
Edit:
Just tested, quietly . It does affect the alarm. I set a repeating alarm. The machine turned on, sounded the alarm once and then switched off. When I turned it on again a few seconds later it sounded a repeat.
I think this hack is excellent if you don't use your XDA2 for alarms or notifications. Otherwise it might cause problems. :?

@nugged:
every PocketPC turns itself automatically on at midnight, to perform some magic regarding alarms etc. It is a known problem that sometimes it turns off too soon again, before having finished its work. There are even programs to make this time-out longer. Question: does you hack also affect this time-out, or is it something completely unrelated?
Cheers
Daniel

2 tadzio: Mine never do this. What "reorganization"? Mine works fine, don't miss any appointments and haven't midnight magic power-ons ...
2 SiliconS: Yes, so that's maybe who need to have long alarms install additional soft and\or set up time longer, smth like 15 seconds.
As for me - yes, I use mine device lot of time so it often in mine hands and at my eyes so I don't need long alarms.
Lets explore info above (at 1st post) here more deeply maybe someone find solution for short WakeUpPowerOff time and working long alarms if needed.

Put down the pipe!!
What are you guys on, hacking the on time? I must be really confused... what about just using the power settings to turn of backlight after 10 seconds and power off if not used for 1 minute?
That's all I ever do and mine lasts easily through a weekend with a few hours of talk time and checking my e-mail at least 20 times.

2 wayandrs: That's your decision If you satisfied with that standard system - good . Anyway - it's not an order - it's just advice
Look - when you setup to run your backlight off after 10 seconds - try to work normally then .

nugged said:
2 tadzio: Mine never do this.
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Yes, it does. You just don't see it because it's only a partial power-up: the display does not get switched on.
The OS needs to clean up appointments, and set alarms for the new day. Most of the time it succeeds, but sometimes the device powers off automatically before the OS could finish, resulting in alarms not going off. This is what tools like "Wakeup Tweak" are for - they just extend the time-out until the device powers down again.
Also, zendrui (the PocketZenPhone author) had a lot of... umm... fun with this feature when users configured PocketZenPhone to automatically switch modes at midnight. Ask him, I think he knows a lot more about this than he ever wanted to know.
Cheers
Daniel

I miss the old 2003 future and wish SMS dose not turn IMATE-II on..
hope some body listen there and give a soltion. it was built in before some bodies complain about it.

2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Yes, no password protection.
Btw I managed to connect over BT to Linux machine and have acces to local net and web. That 's nothing ok. But managed also to use device cca
100m+ away form my BT acces point. Just put USB dongle on extended
cable and if possible outside of your room. My is on the attic.
Think, PC makes som interference to BT rx for sure. If anybody interesting
on this can write som more..
goodluck

2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
2 tadzio: so, device turning itself on withot turning on display? Sounds very interesting. Anyway - we can say so our devices stays on every time even turned off by the key, they only slowing down processor and turning off display and some hardware, cause they need to refresh SDRAM memory, to track and remember appointments to wake up at needed time, etc.
And, anyway, if this 'midnight ONs' are have place, if they are not turning on display - ppc works in another mode and I think this registry value is not related to them. But this - for me - is very strange information.
Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.

nugged said:
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
I do not have any appointments stored in my device.
Cant wait for Linux to run on it with graphical enviromet.
Than we can all forget this misterious M$ hacks.
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eme said:
nugged said:
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
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Oh, I didn't mean to say that I have any problems. In fact, before I apply this hack I wanted to make sure that it will likely not cause any problems, that's why I asked if the author knows about any possible interaction between the midnight wakeup and his hack. I would suspect there is none, but I am not sure.
Cheers
Daniel
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Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.
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Here is more information about this: http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page826.html
Cheers
Daniel

problem need help
Alrite i tried with a 12. It works well. As expected, but things happen when my phone rings, with a long rintone i have, it got cut off and then it went back to standby mode, making the call still ringing behind the background, after a while it was turn on again. It annoying when i cannot hear the first part of the ring. I end up not picking up importants calls... Anyway to help this desperado? ow i want to change back but its like the same...

TyTn doesn't wake up

I've got my new Tytn for about a week now.
Today I had a problem:
My device was in sleeping mode, and would not wake-up either when receiving a call or by pressing the 'on' key.
I had to soft reset the device to go back to normal.
I think I remember a similar issue with Universal at first.
Does anyone has an idea on how to fix that problem?
Thanks!

Please search before posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59007

Thanks Pof!
I made a search but I guess I wasn't as half as efficient as you!
Your link answered my question. Thank again!

Actually, I don't think there's a definitive answer yet. Your problem (won't wake up after overnight charging) has been confirmed though and some suspect SPB software as the underlying cause.
I personally suspect a bug in the TyTN's WM5 build that will be fixed with a subsequent ROM update. Powersave mode in the TyTN is a different beast. I've noticed quite a few ideosyncracies with my TyTN when it was in powersave mode.

Sleuth255 said:
I personally suspect a bug in the TyTN's WM5 build that will be fixed with a subsequent ROM update.
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Yes, I totally agree with you. I don't have any SPB soft installed, and this happens quite frequently after overnight charging.

I contacted Spb and reported this issue to them. Here is the answer I got:
please add poutlook.exe, tmail.exe, instmsgr.exe and cprog.exe to the list of Exceptions in Close button options and let us know if it helps.
Feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
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I haven't tried yet. but I will and will report the results here.
Nevertheless, I must say that since I uninstalled Spb Pocket Plus, I didn't have any more problem...

My TyTn does this ocassionally also, however my gut tells me it has to do with a program that contacts or syncs with the internet while the device is in standby.

nickcerda said:
My TyTn does this ocassionally also, however my gut tells me it has to do with a program that contacts or syncs with the internet while the device is in standby.
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In my case, I don't have any software that automatically connects to the Internet.
Actually, I have almost no program installed. Spb Pocket plus being my favorite app, I always install it first on any device I get.
That's why it was easy for me to pin down the culprit!

I believe there are two seperate issues that affect the TyTN in powersave mode being discussed here. One of them may indeed be related to SPB Pocket Plus but I'm thinking that only people reporting slowness with this app may be affected. I never had any slowdown with SPB pocket plus and the only powersave glitch I ever experienced was after overnight charging.

hmm, I suspect that you may be right about two issues. I have been experiencing that I posted in http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59774 this thread
I have often found an Activesync process running when my device becomes unuseably slow[/url]

100thMonkey said:
I have often found an Activesync process running when my device becomes unuseably slow[/url]
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I noticed that Activesync is almost constantly running in the background. Not only with TyTn, but with all HTC devices I previously or currently owned (almost all! :? ).
Since my 1st post, and the uninstalling of Spb Pocket Plus, my TyTn never froze again.
Next to that I tried the overnight charging for 4 days now and didn't experience any problem.

hmm, I wonder what my issues could be because I don't have anything installed at all.

I have the sa like 100thmonkey. No aditional software. But it hangs too. I noticed that always, when an internetconnection is established or a software (I have Internet Explorer opened) uses Internet while I was loading my hermes, it crashes.
Maybe you can find the same reason, that some internetapplication was active before it crashes.

I followed Spb advices related to the Pocket Plus freezing issues (please check my earlier post on this).
l am happy to say that since I didn't have any problem.
So if your TyTn freezes because of Spb Pocket Plus, you must...
Add poutlook.exe, tmail.exe, instmsgr.exe and cprog.exe located in Windows directory to the list of Exceptions in Close button options.
Hope this will help!

Is there a solution
Any body found an solution for this problem? It happens all the time after nightly over charge... I Do not use Spb +

The solution is simple. It work on my CHT9000 well.
The causes for sleeping may be due to;
1) The programe installed in the micro sd card is shown on TODAY screen. (In my case, the agile messenger installed in card but shown in today screen)
2) Any operation of the phone during charging.
I just simple remove the agile messenger from today screen and soft reset before charging. The phoen will wake up with you on next day morning.(Provided that you set the alarm! )

If I leave my Orange SPV3100 on charge overnight (or for longer than about 4--6 hours) it won't wake up from sleep mode. All I do is plug the power (or USB) cable in (I dont turn of the radio or anything) and it does this.
The green light still flashes, but it wont accept SMS, phone calls or anything else.
So there seems to be a real problem?
I wonder what ROM/carrier is on all of these?

device couldn't wake up after turning to sleep mode

I just got AMEO from T mobile which I believe the same as HTC advantage.
despite of being SIM locked by T-mobile, I am experiencing another problem in waking up the device after it goes into sleep mode.
After I left the device idle for few minutes, it turn the whole screen off. (not only the back lit).
I can see the LED for BT/wifi still blinking.
But no matter which button I press, it couldn't be turn on at all.
As final resolve, I have to soft reset the device every time after it sleep!!!
Can some experts here advise me? is it a defective unit? or some other settings are wrong? Do I need to return it to the vendor?
I don't want to keep the device always on by disabling the auto off feature in power setting either.
Does someone have the same problem like me?
Thanks for any advise in advance.

What happens if you put it on the keyboard while "asleep"? Even if it means taking it off there first.
If doing that and pushing the power button fail to turn it on, it's a defective unit.

it's the same problem even i attach it to the keyboard.
a bit funny though, if i press the power button from the side to turn it off. I won't have any problem to turn it on.
but if i leave it to auto off mode, then i can't turn it on until resetting it from the back hole.
can it be improved if I flash to other ROM?

My Ameo does it occasionally - I find that (re)attaching the keyboard tends to bring it out of sleep better than pressing the power button. I get the impression that by pressing the power button, it sometimes gets confused that its still on and tries to turn itself off (even when it is already off). Tends to lead to a reboot every few days though. Waiting (fingers x'd) for WM6 to see if it behaves better.

do you guys have this option
settings>button>lock
try to toggle the checkbox to see if it helps

I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.

I can confirm that it doesn't help my AMEO.
anyway, thank for your thought.

Digital.Diablo said:
I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.
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To digital:
can I ask for a favor from you. could you try to make the device auto power off without sim card in.
and see whether u will have the exact problem i have or more frequent it dead...
due to my unit is locked to T mobile network, i still haven't put any sim card in.

Tried it without simcard in but it still turns on ok after the fix. TBH, sounds like you're getting the issue more than me - mine only does it occasionally (once every couple-3days) and as yet, I've not managed to locate a consistent cause. I'll keep my eye on it though with the fix and let you all know how I get on.

the other thing that i can think of out of at the moment is that you are running some prog from the sd card/microdrive in the background so when you try to switch your device on then it does not get started and hence the problem...
try tweaks2k (you can use the trial version)
it has a bunch of settings for this... (just check that it is compatible with ameo first)

install 'screenoff' and assign to one of the button.
it works fine.
have to make work around like this now. no idea why this problem only happen to my AMEO...
anyway, thanks for all of u!

royalmail said:
Does someone have the same problem like me?
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I have a similar problem. My device does not wake up in one case from 10 approximately.
Frequency of occurrence of a problem decreases if to close the phone's program compulsorily.
In other branch to me have told, that the problem can be because of the Active Sink's program. Have allowed advice to disconnect automatic start of this program. But I cannot check up because my program all the same is started if to switch off an option of the automatic device. :-(

hard reset can solve the problem completely. ;-)

I'm pleased to say that the 'button' tweak posted here has worked... So far!
Thanks Gents (and lasses if there are any).

That happened to me too yesterday.
I hard reset it and reinstalled everything to microdrive now. (trying to eliminate the possiblity of compaction thread) Removed SPB Pocket plus, which I've come to be quite suspecious by now. Also removed true VGA. So far I have not got a single freeze yet, touch wood. If it runs okay for a few more weeks with no freezing, will put back true VGA and see how it goes again. Will try to isolate the offending software bit by bit.

Hi,
I've had the same problem with my Advantage
After some weeks of test i have found how to solve the problem on my Advantage. perhaps it's only works on mine but you can try.
i have installed "all" progs on memory and not on microdrive. on microdrive i have only a few exe like wififofum or progs not intend to run when i turn my Athena off.
then no more problem waking up my athena.
I think the problem could be that microdrive cause a time out or thing like this when we wake up the PDA then athena freeze waiting about datas from microdrive.
then for me now it's programs like browsers, sscontact, traylaunchers etc .. => memory
programs like painting tool, etc ... => microdrive and close (kill process) them before sleep mode.
and all is ok now for me. The only freeze in 1 week was Pocket IE freezing (but the reason is pocket IE sucks)

There was actually another point that I forgot to mention concerning the freezing. I found out that the free miniSD card came with the bonus pack was actually faulty. With the pocket mechanic professional benchmark, I managed to see only less than 200kb/s read and write! I did a hard reset, and installed everything on microdrive, and touch wood, I have not got a single reset or freezing yet these two days. I install nothing into memory, as we all know that it takes up to 2 seconds to write a block of data into NOR ROM, which is why we should always shift our directory of IE cookies/history/cache away from the main memory. Since the main memory (NOR ROM) is good for executing program in place but terrible in writing, Microsoft's MikeCal thinks we should not keep any data there. (See this thread: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx ). I try to keep the memory as free as possible to minimise compaction thread kikcing in. Will see how it goes in the next couple of weeks and take on from there.

I'm happy to confirm that, after a weeks testing, the button 'fix' seems to have resolved the issue! Thanks all.

I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
Attaching USB cable. No change.
Attaching keyboard. No change.
Calling phone. No change.
Soft reset. Starts ok.​
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'​
However, I suspect ActiveSync.
The unit was attempting to Sync every 5 minutes, while connected with a USB cable. I therefore followed advise (read elsewhere) to create a dummy server to allow an ActiveSync schedule to be created, then deleted.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=246522
This is coincident with the start of the problem.
Regards

Devany said:
I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'​
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I had same problem once I enabled Key Lock function.
However, once I disable key lock, it works fine again.

Problem with GPS and unattended mode

Hi
I'm developing a GPS application (http://www.marathon-mobile.net/Download/DownloadLatestVersion), its working fine on most phone but I'm having some problems with HTC HD2.
The problem is that the GPS doesn't seem work when the phone is locked.
I have set the following:
PowerPolicyNotify(CoreDll.PPN_UNATTENDEDMODE, true)
SetPowerRequirement("gpd0:", CedevicePowerStateState.D0, POWER_NAME | POWER_FORCE, null, 0);
I'm also calling SystemIdleTimerReset(); every 100 ms.
This seems to work for all other devices (I havent received any complaints about them), but no the HTC HD2. Have anyone else experienced problems with HD2, do I have to set any other Power Policies for this device?
//Johan

I think another app got the same problem as well. I run the wmTorrent on my HD2 and when the screen's locked the WiFi shows reconnection when I unlock it. It seems to be some sort of power saving feature that's cutting off everything when it's idle (including GPS). I take it you're requesting GPS data via Windows API.
Nice app by the way, saw it on the marketplace and was gonna place an order. I'll wait till it's fully supported on HD. Let us know pls.

I see.. Thats maybe why I can not get TrackMe to work..

Sounds to me like some kind of power saving design. After all the HD2 haven't exactly got the biggest battery in the world.
Sorry guys, that comment doesn't really help solve you problem I know.
But it would be interesting to know if this is a Microsoft / HTC design 'feature'...Maybe it's worth checking with Acer Neotouch / Omnia II user?
Or does this issue exist on any other WM6.5 handset?

I have installed OziExplorerCE GPS Mapping and Real Time Tracking Software, and it has an option to turn the display off whilst leaving the GPS functioning, pressing the <end> button will turn the display back on as per normal.
This is definitely different to pressing the <end> button to suspend the device as if I do this then Ozi also wakes up with a reconnecting to GPS message.
I have tried this with both TomTom and Oziexplorer running, and as long as I use Ozi's own display off option, both programs keep running and tracking movements.
So it seems that it is possible to do what you wish.

abucas said:
I have installed OziExplorerCE GPS Mapping and Real Time Tracking Software, and it has an option to turn the display off whilst leaving the GPS functioning, pressing the <end> button will turn the display back on as per normal.
This is definitely different to pressing the <end> button to suspend the device as if I do this then Ozi also wakes up with a reconnecting to GPS message.
I have tried this with both TomTom and Oziexplorer running, and as long as I use Ozi's own display off option, both programs keep running and tracking movements.
So it seems that it is possible to do what you wish.
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Sounds like they use SetSystemPowerState(null, POWER_STATE_IDLE, POWER_FORCE); in combination with multiple calls to SystemIdleTimerReset(); This could be a solution. Unfortunately it keeps the entire device in on, so it'll consume more power than just keeping the GPS on. I've currently sent a version to a tester with this enabled, so we'll see if it works.
I'm still interested in a solution using unattended mode if its possible. It could be as easy as setting another power requirement, if so we just need to find it.
Thanks for all the replies .

Good to find that, I will need that for SciLor's GrooveMobile