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Can't connect to local WiFi...errrrr!

I managed to do this quite easily with my PDA2K, but I'm having a heck of a time getting connected to my WiFi LAN. Has anyone managed to do this yet? Not GPRS, but WiFi.
Thanks!
Tom

Turn up the power level to max performance
I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.

Turns out I can't connect with either device now. I can get on with my laptop without a problem.
The manual sucks on this topic, but what's the best way to connect to a network?
Tom

Just bringing this back to the top. Still no connection at work, home or Starbucks.
Tom

is the Wizard any better than the BA?
Sorry tnw I can't help - I am wondering whether I should ditch my BA and go for the Wizard... do you think the Wizard is an improvement over the BA, or is it a downgrade?

I really liked my BA when I bought it. I had a the crappy HP from Tmobile which gave me nothing but problems, so getting the BA was great. I still like it. I saw the Universal in person and while it looked cool, I was getting tired of having a big pda/phone so I really didn't want to buy it. Its bigger and heavier than my BA, so that pretty much turned me off.
I read about the K-Jam on The Register and 48 hours after that had one in my hand. I really, really like it. I was looking for a smaller device than the PDA2K and having seen the i-Jam before, I thought this should work perfectly....and it does. I'm really glad I didn't go with the Universal. But, to each his own. The keyboard on the K-Jam is great also, screen is good, speaker is loud, speakerphone is perfect, camera is good....I really have no downsides to it....except I can't get on my frigg'in wifi.
If you don't mind the size, go for the universal. If you're tired of the size and weight of the BA, go with the Wizard. Overall, I feel the Wizard is a huge improvement over the BA. Phone and BT work perfectly! If you buy it from Expansys, you have 14 days to play with it. 14-day return policy.
Tom

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funnymanva said:
I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.
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I am getting the same, will not locate any page, though wifi settings show signal strength. Changing to settings suggested did not work for me, anyone else had this and resolved? Other than that loving the MDA Vario (Kjam)

happy bunny
finally got working. not too sure what I did but a couple of soft resets and undoing setting a specified IP address. now typing this on the couch using wireless network. Kjam now staying Ijam (MDA compact) likely to be on ebay soon.

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allanbach said:
finally got working. not too sure what I did but a couple of soft resets and undoing setting a specified IP address. now typing this on the couch using wireless network. Kjam now staying Ijam (MDA compact) likely to be on ebay soon.
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What did you change? I've been playing with this all day long. I'm writting this on my laptop over the wifi I should be able to connect to using my kjam. I spent a couple hours at Starbucks today as well.
Any hints would be great! I can get on GPRS without a problem, if that makes a difference.
Tom

My T-Mobile (UK) MDA Vario will not connect to my home 802.11g network. If I switch to mixed 802.11b/g mode the Vario connects and everything is well. The Vario can see the "g" network and knows which encryption is in use but it will not connect. I've read that Australian versions will connect to "g" networks, as will K-Jams and 9100s.
T-Mobile (UK) told me that they have chosen to disable "g" access. I am stunned. I've been trying to find a way to re-enable "g" access but so far no luck. I have hard reset and loaded no external ROM files whatsoever but that didn't fix it. I'm now trawling through the registry to try to find something but I don't actually have a clue what to look for or where.
If anyone has a solution to enabling "g" access on the UK MDA Vario please post. It is the only disappointment I have with the machine.

My KJam was able to connect to g network but on 11M, and regularly dropped the connection and connected, and in an hour of use it halted on WiFi (the pda works, but you get hourglass and nothing more if you enter wifi settings, or try to turn wifi off). I restricted the access point to 802.11b.

i can connect to my AP with no problems if it unsecured. if i turn on encryption it does not get an ip. if i enable mac filtering it works, but removes the mac from the AP when i disconnect.
afaik some APs have problems communicating with mobile devices.

Re: Turn up the power level to max performance
funnymanva said:
I had trouble connecting to my home wifi (well it would appear to connect, but pocket IE wouldn't "locate" any pages). I ran ethereal on my home linux gateway and saw that it was getting its DHCP address properly and performing DNS lookups and even getting the responses. I wish there was ethereal for the Pocket PC, because what eventually made it work was that I turned up the power to maximum performance (instead of in between that and maximum battery). I guess the power level was just a tad too low such that the DNS queries weren't making it back to the 9100/Wizard device. Everything has worked like a charm since including Skype and a voip phone I use to connect by my home PBX called SJPhone.
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thanks!!!!!! i have been busting my nut with this!!!!

I am having the same problem like this. .. but how did u guys fix it?

GPRS Disable / Enable

Is there an app available that will allow me to diable or enable GPRS usage ? I would like to use GPRS when im out and about, but dont want my phone doing things like connect to GPRS if I forget to sign out of messenger when ive been using wifi. When the phone switches itself off, it will connect via GPRS and download any messages emails.
I have put some dummy accounts in to stop it connecting but it keeps coming up with unknown application errors then although it does stop it costing me any download allowance / money.

Anyone ?

knowsleyroader said:
Anyone ?
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Maybe you did not get an anwer because you posted it in friday the 13th
But I want the same.
I am going abroad later this month, and I don't want any program to connect via GPRS.
It just costs too much.
So does anyone have a solution to disable connection by GPRS?

Hi all. All you do is press and hold the call end button for a few seconds and GPRS will be switched off.
knowsleyroader said:
Is there an app available that will allow me to disable or enable GPRS usage ? I would like to use GPRS when im out and about, but dont want my phone doing things like connect to GPRS if I forget to sign out of messenger when ive been using wifi. When the phone switches itself off, it will connect via GPRS and download any messages emails.
I have put some dummy accounts in to stop it connecting but it keeps coming up with unknown application errors then although it does stop it costing me any download allowance / money.
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MACkjam said:
Hi all. All you do is press and hold the call end button for a few seconds and GPRS will be switched off.
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I think you are mistaking the question.
If you press the Call End button for a few seconds, it indeed will end the GPRS session.
For that moment.
But if an application want to connect, it reconnects with GPRS just that easily.
And that's what you are afraid of, when roaming.
I really want to control the GPRS connection, off or on.

I use SPB GPRS Monitor. It adds a Icon to the menu bar at the top. You just tap on it, tap connect, and there you go. You can disconnect also. The program is skinnable as well! Moreover, it monitors your GPRS usage so you know when Vodafone is over charging you
cya

I also use GPRS monitor, but that's not the issue here.
I know how to disconnect, but I don't want GPRS to connect automatically, whatever condition.
Just do not connect via GPRS unless I tell the wizard to do so.

i know how you can do it!!!! Close messager and you will not have the problem!!!!! does not take brains! If you cant do that why the heck do you have a phone like this, which must be really too high tech for you!

ronh said:
I also use GPRS monitor, but that's not the issue here.
I know how to disconnect, but I don't want GPRS to connect automatically, whatever condition.
Just do not connect via GPRS unless I tell the wizard to do so.
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Oh, okay....no clue in that case
The best way would be not to save the password to the connection, so it asks for it each time. That will stop it connecting, but it is inconvenient
Hope that helps

funman said:
i know how you can do it!!!! Close messager and you will not have the problem!!!!! does not take brains! If you cant do that why the heck do you have a phone like this, which must be really too high tech for you!
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Hmm, this is no fun-man.
I ask a normal question, so please give a normal answer.
I have pushmail, newsreader, weatherpanel, Messenger and maybe some more progs who connect automatically over GPRS.
In holland that's no problem because I have a flat fee abo.
But when I go abroad I have to disable each and every application by hand.
(Roaming GPRS is sooo expensive )
So this device is definately not too high tech for me, but I am looking for an easy solution and that's to control GPRS by hand.

One program does it all for you:
Vijay555's VJVolubilis program!
Google search for Vijay555. Go to Releases. He's got a bunch of software written by him (a BIG THANK YOU to Vijay - Viva la ViJay!)
Instructions:
- Install cab file.
- Create a shortcut (using Ilauncher or any other programs that allows you to) and change the properties to wot you need
- In your case, use the properties - -gprson or -gprsoff or -gprstoggle
- You can set one icon to turn GPRS on and one to turn GPRS off in case you're worried about toggling it on instead of off.
Works great for me.
And don't forget to donate to Vijay!
Hope that helps.

Thanx, that's really looking promising.
It seems exactly what I was looking for.
I will test this prog asap.

i have been looking for a prog like this so I do not get price raped when my gprs drops out...I will test it out thanks.

Trouble with GPRS connections on EXEC

hi everyone, i got my brand new xda exec today..
its a great fone and i like it very much.. but i am having some trouble with my gprs connections.. i have setup the connections as i wud on my late xda II mini.. and the connections seems working just fine wen the are connected automatically for use (like for receiving/sending mms, messenger.. etc) but as i hav a different connection for browsing the internet, because of my operater (damn operator!!!), i had to connect it manually (i did the sam on the mini too) by tapping on the G icon and choosing it from the connectivity bubble which pops up..
but wen it cam to the exec, it doesnt show any connections there, eventhough i already had the two connections from my operator.. it just says, "to connect to either the internet or work, set up a new connection in settings" .. as if i had no connections made..
why doesnt it shows the two connections like it used to show up in my mini :?: i feel its a problem with my fone / OS.. is this how it is in windows mobile 5 :?: if so, is there anyway i can show my connections there in the bubble which pops up wen i tap the G icon :?: any help wud b appreciated.. thanx in advanced..

wont anybody say anything?

still nobody?!? i'm sure there wud b ppl, hu can help me here.. or ppl hu've got the sam problem.. wont anybody just say anything???

I have the exact same problem! A bit stupid how nobody will answer!?? At least tell us if your own one works fine, people!?
I have a feeling that it is a problem with our phones, as I upgraded the ROM to a Qtek and Imate rom but still had same problem. Mine is an Orange SPV M5000 btw.
Hope somebody will take some notice....
cya

No I'm afraid I don't have that either unlike on my BA which did list the connections and a connect to... button.
Perhaps someone (or even I) could write a little program that pops up a list of connections and allows you to connect them.
But why would you want to do this. I too have a different mms and internet connection - just set one to be the default for internet and work (under connections control panel) and tell the mms program to dial the mms connection. Works for me on orange. Do you really need two different cellular connections AND an mms connection?
Pete

Because I want to use GPRS, MMS, and my own VPN Connection..... a bit annoying. Oh well

@appu, you know the bubble you get when you click on the "G" allows you to access a WiFi connection and that is why you get a query about internet/work. Are you saying your SIM has two phone lines, one for calls and one for data? If that is the case I have not seen any one mention this situation before. Would you need to switch off youe device and select the second line?

No No No. You didn't quite understand what I was saying. On my Alpine, when I tap on that bubble I get a connection menu for Wifi, My ISP connection, and my Work Connection. On the Universal, the last two do not appear... I was just wanting to find out if that is the case on EVERY Universal.
No two line business etc!? Don't know where that came from?!
Cya

@moghisi101, you can change the selection of the GPRS/3G connection from start>settings>connections>connections and select "manage existing connections"
Same on the JasJar and XDA Exec

Yes I know, but that seems much more 'involved' compared to what it is supposed to do; show them in that bubble. I think it may be a glitch in WM5. Would be interesting to see if people that have Wizards have same problem.
Cya

all wm5 have this issue.
it is known, there is no fix, and nothing that can be done at this point except follow the directions as indicated.

When on WIFI tytyn STILL dial GPRS..Why?

Hey,
I have my tytn set to check emails every 5 minutes using my homes wifi connection. My problem is every once in a while i'll look to find GPRS has connected... this is really annoying me, as i don't know then if email is being checked using wifi or GPRS which costs. MAINLY though bcause I don't know WHY it is doing it.
In connections, my top selection is CONTRACT INTERNET which holds my gprs connection settngs and the bottom one is my work network. the slightest change in either of these STOPS INBOX from checking over wifi giving me an ';error synchronsing message;'
Can anyone tell me WHY my tytn persists with this?
thank you

hey, well incase anyone is reading and looking for a short term fix, UNTICKING the remember password box in gprs settings means if it attempts to dial, it CAN'T connect without the password being ntered. not ideal, but it at least stops any nasty surprises when you don't expect them

I had the same issue with WM 5. After upgrading the device to WM 6 this problem was solved for me.

Choosing between WiFi, GPRS, VPN etc. - any simple utility outthere? plz...

Is there a kind of utility that if a connection is required, asks user how to connect? Something like there use to be on a PC, when You start IE? I don't remember which version of IE/Windows it was but it looks something like this - http://support.bee.net/dial/email/outlook6.gif
The problem is, selecting manually how to connect is very much pain in the ass, I am wondering that if there isn't a software already written for this, why is that. It would be a simple yet very usable - You start IE for example, and the phone asks you how to connect, via WLAN or GPRS or whatever. OR maybe even over BT if You have a BT device for connection over PC or smth.
The second option would be to prioritize the connection list - like tell the PDA that first try WLAN, if it fails then try GPRS etc.
The third option would be somehow to use MortScript for this. It's still better than going to Connection Manager through tens of taps.
Been searching the forums. Looked through at least all threads' titles under networking. But no solution so far.
Any ideas? I would appreciate any help. And still wondering why someone hasn't already solved this... Maybe they have, but cannot find it then

So nobody has ever heard of anything like this? Would there be an enthusiast who would program such utility? It would not be a major application...

How do you manually choose connection?
I have HTC Diamond with Windows Mobile 6. I connect it to my work computer to synchronise with Outlook but I want to use my 3G (or GPRS) connection for internet. What should I do?

i really dislike the way the WM6 autoamatically chooses GPRS has its first connection type.. but then if WIFI is turned off it has no choice
An option to possible enable Wifi rather than GPRS would be nice

Windows mobile's connection manager is horrible. I suspect the group assigned to WM networking at microsoft had little (or no) prior experience and didn't really understand how IP routing, interface stacking, etc. works.
We sorely need some kind of end-to-end communications manager that is aware of all network devices (GPRS, CF wireless/ethernet cards, onboard wireless, bluetooth, USB, etc) and virtual devices (all forms of VPN), and how they interoperate. Something that allows editing of routing rules, per-connection DNS servers, gateway priorities, preferred devices, timeouts, connection persistence, etc.
Worry about things like "dial-on-demand" after the basics are covered.
Today it's virtually impossible to keep a WM device on a VPN connection and even harder when you've got phone calls and wifi to deal with. I have my activesync configured through a PPTP VPN and at least 5 times a day it loses its connection and requires me to manually press "sync." Sometimes that doesn't even work, requiring a reboot. Usually there will be some vague and unhelpful error message like "waiting for network" or "could not connect for an unknown reason."
In fact while I'm on a bit of a rant, is anyone else infuriated by error messages like that?
Obviously there was an error - you don't need to tell the user that. If there was no error, you'd be connected! What is the purpose of telling the user there was an error? There is always an "error" unless there is success. TELL THE USER WHAT THE ERROR WAS. Anything else is useless and frustrating.
The device should also absolutely freak out if it ever loses any connection. If the phone loses anything.. the GSM signal, activesync's connection to the exchange server, the VPN... it should beep, vibrate, flash, and refuse to do anything (sleep, power off, etc) until either one of two conditions is true:
1. The error is no longer present (the phone was able to reestablish the connection), or
2. The user has acknowledged and dismissed the error.
It should never be the case that the phone is disconnected and not attempting to reconnect, unless the user chooses that mode of operation. Anything else leads to lost email, missed meetings, and high blood pressure.
Ugh.
Anyway, I think there's a lot of money to be made by a company that can put together a properly functioning WM connection management system. I'm still looking...

This might help, I've not tried it yet but it looks promising....
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm#MobileProfiler

That is a much needed program. WM 6.1 does an awful job with GPRS, WiFi,
Phone, etc.

Thanks joemanb, somehow I missed Your reply. But this isn't exactly what I'm looking for. But thanks anyway. I understand that this proggy would be very useful for many people but I don't understand why somebody with programming skills doesn't want to do it...

I have the very same problem.
I have both symbian and WM phones.
Nokia have had this right since my 9500 when you check email or go on the Internet it prompts you for the connection to use. I got a Imate-Kjam and was shocked that it did not do this. It was subsequently replaced with a E90 that still does it the right way and very well. I just got a Samsung SGH-i780 and it is great but it still has no Idea of how to connect to the Internet the way I would like. having 3g makes it less of a problem as I simply don't use the wi-fi but this bugs me that I can't.
All they need to do is have the phone prompt you when you open a Internet app for the connection to use. How hard can that be to realize ?

Bump bump bump

Um... Bump?

Come on developers, You cannot say You don't miss something like that already...

Bandswitch
I hope too in the developers. While waiting I found "Bandswitch" which make something similar...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-bandswitch-v1-2-3.html

Disable GPRS connections
Try this. Works fine on my Herald/P4350.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/

Thanks for the suggestions but as far as I can tell, these apps only handle mobile data connections and now Wi-Fi. You can easily disable GPRS by creating a fake GPRS connection with no real access point. That is not what I am trying to accomplish here. But thanks anyway.