Hey,
I'm experiencing a strange problem with my hermes.
The device wakes up often without a reason. The effect is the following:
. device wakes up
. the connectivity icon changes from 3G to H, means HSDPA connection built up
. spb gprs monitor shows different amount of data transfers
If I close the data connection manually with the red hook on button, the effect doesnt appear any more. So I guess this in an inbound connection made to my device. But how can that be???
Does WM wakes up on inbound connections? How can I find out, which data is being transfered? Are there any network monitoring tools for WM?
Is it right, that to wake up the device from a program that makes an outbound connection an entry in the notification list has to exist? There is nothing. No notification that could wake up the device.
Need help!
Device seeks automatically the strongest signal around. If you stay in an area with both types of signal you will find frquent flipping in and out of 3g UMTS. You may not have experienced this but it can also lead to the dropping of calls also.
You can use Danielherrerro's bandswitch application aka commmgrpro that allows you to easily choose which bands to turn on off.
Mike
I think you misunderstood.
Chaning the band doesnt normaly lead to download traffic.
Btw. I selected gsm instead of gms & umts in the phone options, so the device cant switch. Still waking up and producing some traffic. This effect wasnt there til last week.
Mine does this because it checks for mail every 15 minutes, do you have mail scheduled???
good luck.
Oggy.
LaroCroft said:
I think you misunderstood.
Chaning the band doesnt normaly lead to download traffic.
Btw. I selected gsm instead of gms & umts in the phone options, so the device cant switch. Still waking up and producing some traffic. This effect wasnt there til last week.
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My bad. Ogier is right, it must be an app. that's connecting - possibles include:
Mail
Weather apps
Sync apps - time sync etc
Mike
Gprs Today Plugin
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anyone have any good suggestions on a today-plugin that shows wifi/gprs connection? My theme does not show the connection icon (3g,g,e,etc.), so I was looking for somethig that would show with conenction I was using as a today plugin. Something like the one shoen here in custels rom.
I would use spb gprs monitor, but for some reason all spb applications show this really annoying this line at the top of my screen, so I have given up on spb. any other ideas short of dumping custels ROM? thanks
Definitly dont think thats an application
Problem occurs only if a data connection is still active. If I disconnect manually no wake up occurs.
Seems device is waken up from an external source?!
my friend has a 9800 as well...
an he seems to be having a issue with his wifi...
i guess when he turns on tha little switch on the side... no icon appears
an therefor no internet access...
his phone is out tha box and other than tha task manager prog tha htc home plugin and streaming media program that i gave him hes done nothing to it...
any ideas???
I assume you mean 6800, not 9800... but anyway...
The wifi (as far as I or other people on this forum know) is a hard-switch. That means that it isn't really controllable by software, but rather when the switch is on, the wifi radio is on, and vice-versa.
If the operating system doesn't recognize that the wifi is on, it sounds like the switch might be broken. However, rather than relying on the icon to come up, try going to settings -> connections -> wifi and checking whether it can detect anything there.
Good luck!
the wifi is software controllable when the switch is on, so make sure he doesnt have any software that disables the wifi (i have SPB phonesuite on mine, and if i turn off wifi in phonesuite it doesnt come on when i flip the switch)
respect for the responses ill pass that info on to him...
*thumbs up*
Hi
is there any program which turns on WIFI for windows email checking and turn it off afterward(even in standby state)?
Would LOVE it !
Yes there is But, its not free, it's $10.00. The app is called "ct scheduler" It'll allow you to turn on/off wifi at anytime you like and however many times you like. Theres more features also, like turning on/off bluetooth, sending a sms at a given time, schedule a softreset, adjust volume at chosen times, and more. i love this app, but again, it's $10.00.
dschoenike
try sk tools i think they have something that will do it or a app that will
aaronpoweruser said:
try sk tools i think they have something that will do it or a app that will
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I think you mean SKSchema.
What I'm looking for is this:
An app that uses the GPS to turn WiFi ON at predetermined coordinates.
So for example, I walk to the coffee shop, GPS knows I'm getting close, turns WiFi ON. WiFi auto-connects while I'm there, as I step out, it times out at the preset time (part of wm6). I drive to the office, again, GPS know to turn Wifi ON and phone then auto connects to the network there. Same when I get back home.
This will save me some $ on data plan and get me a faster connection when I'm in a friendly wifi zone.
Thoughts?
I'd like my phone to use the data connection to download weather info etc., but I'd also like it to turn it off when idle to save power. Is there an app to do this?
thanks
Click on the 3G icon on the top bar, then when the notification screen opens click on the 3G icon again, that opens the Comm Mgr screen, turn off the data connection.
OR, are you wanting an app that will do it automatically after XX min?
It should automatically disconnect after usage. I find my data connection active for like 23 hours and such. Big battery hog when it isn't even being used.
On my Fuze, there was a registry edit which would set your END key to disconnect a data connection while on the homescreen in the default position. Worked really well except it doesn't work on my new AT&T Pure for some reason.
A single tap would work exactly like the END key currently does. Pretty nice.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Phone]
"Flags2"=dword:0000000A
Flags2: "Enables a disconnect button for GPRS connections to appear in the connectivity list. Also enables End key to disconnect GPRS."
[EDIT]
Actually it may still work. I just found that further down in my app.reg of my Custom folder, I had it set again, to 16.
[EDIT2]
Yup. Changing the value to A (A=10) works like a champ. It doesn't affect any normal End key functions either.
Alternatively, if you have TD2 Tools (which you should, great program), then under the Power tab, there is an option to 'Auto D/C Data Connection'. At least there is in 2a, v 2.0.3552.42948.
Yes, I want an app to disconnect the data connection after a few mins/secs. It should save power.
I will try the TD2 tools, I already had it but never thought about looking if it had this option built in.
Thanks to you all!
EDIT: It worked, it disconnects after a few minutes now. Does anybody know how to disable wake device when receiving SMS? The option is turned off, but still the device wakes itself.
arrow224 said:
Alternatively, if you have TD2 Tools (which you should, great program), then under the Power tab, there is an option to 'Auto D/C Data Connection'. At least there is in 2a, v 2.0.3552.42948.
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player911 said:
It should automatically disconnect after usage. I find my data connection active for like 23 hours and such. Big battery hog when it isn't even being used.
On my Fuze, there was a registry edit which would set your END key to disconnect a data connection while on the homescreen in the default position. Worked really well except it doesn't work on my new AT&T Pure for some reason.
A single tap would work exactly like the END key currently does. Pretty nice.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Phone]
"Flags2"=dword:0000000A
Flags2: "Enables a disconnect button for GPRS connections to appear in the connectivity list. Also enables End key to disconnect GPRS."
[EDIT]
Actually it may still work. I just found that further down in my app.reg of my Custom folder, I had it set again, to 16.
[EDIT2]
Yup. Changing the value to A (A=10) works like a champ. It doesn't affect any normal End key functions either.
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Are both working on a TD2? I mean either the registry tweak or the TD2 Tool?
I personally prefer the reg tweak, however I don't understand the content of your EDIT note: "changing WHAT to 16"?? and your EDIT2 note : "changing the value to A" is in hex or dec? And do you mean that pressing the END hardware key will disconnect data connection now?
Hi
The data connection being on does not drain the battery. You have a network connection to the cell all the time otherwise you wouldn't receive phone calls, the data connection symbol just means your phone also has an IP address, that doesn't take any power.
If anything the connection remaining on saves power as each time you need a connection one doesn't have be created. Creating a connection uses more CPU cycles and radio power talking to the cell to open a network connection and then more to drop it.
The network operators also want the connection to remain on as it is less load on their networks than having them continually created then dropped.
More info here: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/07/14/666203.aspx
Regards
Phil
you just need to modify these two entries (was written here many times)
Hkey_local_machine\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings
1. Change in CacheTime DWORD Data to 15 (Base is Dec value)
2. Change in SuspendResume the value to GPRS_bye_if_device_off
Make a soft reset.
The data connection should turn off after 15 sec if idle. It should also turn
off after you press the red key, or turn off the screen.
Try it.
Both solutions (reg mod and TD2 Tools) work most of the time, they are in fact the same. However I noticed 2 curious behaviours in which the timeout is not respected.
1) When I update weather via DataConnection, it does not autodisconnect after the preset time...it will when device goes in standby mode.
2) Data Connection stays on until Opera is open (even if not used).Once closed, timeout starts, and it's not that bad after all.
Can anyone confirm?
I used the TD2 tools, and i'm not experiencing these issues.
PhilipL said:
Hi
The data connection being on does not drain the battery. You have a network connection to the cell all the time otherwise you wouldn't receive phone calls, the data connection symbol just means your phone also has an IP address, that doesn't take any power.
If anything the connection remaining on saves power as each time you need a connection one doesn't have be created. Creating a connection uses more CPU cycles and radio power talking to the cell to open a network connection and then more to drop it.
The network operators also want the connection to remain on as it is less load on their networks than having them continually created then dropped.
More info here: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/07/14/666203.aspx
Regards
Phil
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This is good advice. Has anyone every experienced more battery drain if the the data connection is "left open"?
In any case, even if you "disconnect" data every time, if an app wants to access the internet, doesn't wm reconnect automatically again? (unless you use modaco "nodata" app or similar to inhibit it)
Didn't notice more battery drain with a data connection left open and you're right: if an app needs connection then it will automatically be opened. In my case I want auto disconnect because, even though I have 400 monthly prepaid connection hours, which is enormous for a phone, it annoys me to waste them while topaz is in my pocket.
Wow, thaks for the great tip Phil!
I have a prepaid 150MB limit, so it shouldn't bother me leaving it on. The 400 monthly hours sualc mentioned is indeed more of a problem.
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Are both working on a TD2? I mean either the registry tweak or the TD2 Tool?
I personally prefer the reg tweak, however I don't understand the content of your EDIT note: "changing WHAT to 16"?? and your EDIT2 note : "changing the value to A" is in hex or dec? And do you mean that pressing the END hardware key will disconnect data connection now?
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The problem mentioned above, about auto-disconnecting when programs are being used... this is why I program my reg edit to manual disconnect.
@BumAround: Set the value to "0000000A" (which is hex). "16" was my default value, which was also Hex.
This will do 2 things. It creates a "Disconnect" button from the PopUp Connection window and also allows the END key to disconnect only while at the Today screen in it's default position.
For example, if you are browsing Opera and press the END key... it will only take you back to the Today screen and won't touch your data connection. If your at the default position (the Clock tab on both Manila and Titanium), pressing END again will stop the data transmission.
It is a very good solution to the OP's problem by allowing you to disconnect the data connection easily, at will, and without the need for extra programs.
player911 said:
The problem mentioned above, about auto-disconnecting when programs are being used... this is why I program my reg edit to manual disconnect.
@BumAround: Set the value to "0000000A" (which is hex). "16" was my default value, which was also Hex.
This will do 2 things. It creates a "Disconnect" button from the PopUp Connection window and also allows the END key to disconnect only while at the Today screen in it's default position.
For example, if you are browsing Opera and press the END key... it will only take you back to the Today screen and won't touch your data connection. If your at the default position (the Clock tab on both Manila and Titanium), pressing END again will stop the data transmission.
It is a very good solution to the OP's problem by allowing you to disconnect the data connection easily, at will, and without the need for extra programs.
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Wow! Cool! You mean pressing END (hardware) key twice, once to bring the phone to the Today main screen, and one more time to disconnect data connection at will? Sweet!
Hi Sualc, the same "problem" for me updating weather (using option for data connection inTD2 Tools)
Not sure
PhilipL said:
Hi
The data connection being on does not drain the battery. You have a network connection to the cell all the time otherwise you wouldn't receive phone calls, the data connection symbol just means your phone also has an IP address, that doesn't take any power.
If anything the connection remaining on saves power as each time you need a connection one doesn't have be created. Creating a connection uses more CPU cycles and radio power talking to the cell to open a network connection and then more to drop it.
The network operators also want the connection to remain on as it is less load on their networks than having them continually created then dropped.
Regards
Phil
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Not sure about this... and forgive me if I shouldn't be commenting because I'm referencing a cdma HTC touch pro 2, but I think this aspect is common.
My understanding is that the arrows up in the status bar should show white when a data connection is active and transferring data, but should turn gray when the connection is connected but not actively transmitting data. On my TP2, the data connection always shows the connection active and transmitting (the arrows stay white and never turn gray). I'm thinking if this is happening, one must surely be eating battery that isn't necessary.
On a cdma phone, the GPRS registry setting that is mentioned in this thread won't work because, although it will make the data connection automatically disconnect after an active data session, and you can change how long that time is with the CacheTime registry setting, unfortunately, on my HTC touch pro 2 Sprint cdma phone, you can't answer incoming calls when a data connection is active using these settings. I have to change the GPRS setting to #777 instead to be able to answer incoming calls when a data connection is active.... and with the #777 registry setting, I then loose the automatic time out and turning off of the data connection, so it stays on and showing active unless I turn it off manually and even then it comes on by it's self so often it's not even worth turning it off manually.
If any of you tech wizards can find a way for me to both be able to answer incoming calls when the is an active data connection, and also have the data connection time out and turn off automatically when not being used, I'd love to see it, because it sure seems to me I use more battery when I'm not turning off my data connection a lot manually, but it gets old always having to turn it off too!
Hello. I'm sure that this must have been discussed but I cannot find the answer using search. As is surely normal, I use WiFi within the home and GPRS when there is no WiFi available. If WiFi is connected and I go out for a short while, then when I get back in a WiFi area, the WiFi is still connected. However, if I go away for a long time, and GPRS is used for perhaps a regular weather update, then the WiFi disconnects and has to be manually reconnected upon return to home. This leads to GPRS being used in a WiFi area unnecessarily if you forget to re-connect WiFi. Is there a WiFi connection timeout value or any other setting that can be changed? My old TyTN II did not have this problem. Thanks.
Try this CAB
It disable disconnecting WiFi when phone is in sleep mode and with this phone automaticly connects to WiFi when Leo will be in range.
Thanks Franq_23_pl. I think that the CAB just stops WiFi disconnecting when the device is in sleep mode. That will just drain the battery, surely? My old TyTN used to disable WiFi when in sleep mode, but as soon as you switched it on again, WiFi would be enabled and it would connect if in range. The problem with my HD2/Leo is that if I am away from my WiFi for some considerable time (ie, most of the day), then when I get back home and switch the device on, WiFi is disabled, and I have to manually toggle in on. So my question is..... What are the circumstances that cause WiFi to disable itself, and Is there some way of stopping it happening?
OIC now. I think you having some battery saving app and this app turning off WiFi when iz not used. What apps or registry mods you have installed on Leo?
You have the same behavior after hard reset?
My Leo don't disable WiFi. When i go outside (for ex to work) and back after few hours my Leo connecting to my home wireless network automaticly.
I remember, that i had the same problem like you and it was caused by app, which had duty to save battery.