I am about to buy the JJ.
However i'd like to know the exac differences between 'em.
cpu? performance? apps? interface?
I juz wanna know once N for all !!
10x guys !!
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One has some text on the lid saying: "JasJar"
The otherone has some text saying "MDA Pro"
That's all there is!
There are differences in the shipped ROM, but this can be flashed.
THERE ARE NO HARDWARE DIFFERENCES!
Both devices are HTC Universal, branded by different companies..
On the outer side of the housing one says: i-mate,
the other one says: t-mobile.
;-)
oh, yes.. I forgot!
That's the most important difference! :lol:
don't forget the color difference 8)
O2 Exec = Black
MDA Pro = Light Silver
i-mate JasJar = Dark Silver
I see...
well then..
a huge gap indeed...
you just made me even more baffled
now that we cleared that one up.....
i gotto go find the cheapest.
any idea's? lowest so far = 1000$ Us.
10x !
Re: Jasjar your best bet in my opinion!!
GadiShoshani said:
well then..
a huge gap indeed...
you just made me even more baffled
now that we cleared that one up.....
i gotto go find the cheapest.
any idea's? lowest so far = 1000$ Us.
10x !
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woahhh! Hold up there, we're not done yet. :lol:
Biggest difference is in the support! Both are lousy in customer service relations, but i-mate do release ROM updates much more frequently than all of the others, and that in my opinion counts for alot! Whilst you can flash any of these devices with another devices ROM, you effectively invalidate any warranty for the said device, unless it's an i-mate product. As they frequently (in comparison to others ) release updates, you can take a chance on someone else's ROM (if or when they become available) or swith back to the i-mate ROM as and when you please.
Big + in my books!
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I was wondering, has anyone confirmed that windows mobile second edition will be availiable for XDA2 in the near future?
some people have claimed to have it for testing but no proof have been represented to us
rest asure that when somebody starts to share it you will see the news on the front page of this site
you can use the search function in this forum to see how many people asked this question before and if you are lucky maybe you'll find posts from people claiming to have it aswell
SECOND EDITION
Yeah..........
I am boring !!!!!!.
waiting .... wait....wait ......wait....Zzzzz....zzzz....zz
I've been waiting patiently, but I have a feeling my hope will be ignored. So I'll just twiddle my thumb even more until I can go back to sleep and dream some more about Second Edition.
I really don't see a point having the SE, unless if you use Pocket Internet Explorer a lot. But it'll be nice to have the option of landscape.
If you see the photos of the new HTC - Blue Angel here :
http://mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-blue-angel-en.shtml
you will notice at the today screen that there are some usefull new indications like gprs usage and uptime/battery charge level.
I wonder if the SE update for XDA2 will have them.
georkal said:
If you see the photos of the new HTC - Blue Angel here :
http://mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-blue-angel-en.shtml
you will notice at the today screen that there are some usefull new indications like gprs usage and uptime/battery charge level.
I wonder if the SE update for XDA2 will have them.
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That's just SPB GPRS monitor and UpTime Freeware.
Thanks for the tip!
I'm new in ppc world.I just bought my XDA2 a week ago!
Very pleased though in any aspect (expandability,performance) compared to my previous P900 smartphone :wink:
Release by Imate
Read this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11431
so, we wait until 2 month later (this year)
:twisted: :twisted:
Like I would believe anything from a CSR to tell me it'll be out. Right now it's just vaporware. Besides that, even if i-Mate would have an upgrade, their ROM is different than XDA II.
Thanks for the info anyway, it was a good find.
from o2 ??????
maybe from 02 : :?: :?: :?:
this link :
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=24274
this link, i found in `forumponsel` website.
OOT : who is `CSR` ???, what the `meaning `vaporware`
thank's
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lol, love your sig. CSR = Customer Service Rep, Vaporware = a software that's mostlikey vapor, like gas, the air.
Vaporware seperti softwarenya pasti nggak keluar.
Besides that, even if i-Mate would have an upgrade, their ROM is different than XDA II.
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all roms from all Himalaya devices though
Does any of the two have anything more to offer or is the price the only difference?
Thanks
Hardware is the same, differences are only in the ROM and maybe the case (not sure about them, google images and see if they have the same colours!)
Hi,
You I've alreayd seen the cases and I like the qtek case more, the imate case looks abit cheap imho.
Since the difference is only the rom, what are the exact differences? Do you get any extras with either? Is one faster or has better power management?
Over here the imate kjam is a bit cheaper but I was planning on getting the qtek case the case looks better.
I dont have personal experience with either ROM, i'm using the O2 UK shipped ROM installed without any of the O2 extra's. Search the forums for ROM details, there are several posts i've scanned recently about what ROM has what extras
GIR said:
Hi,
You I've alreayd seen the cases and I like the qtek case more, the imate case looks abit cheap imho.
Since the difference is only the rom, what are the exact differences? Do you get any extras with either? Is one faster or has better power management?
Over here the imate kjam is a bit cheaper but I was planning on getting the qtek case the case looks better.
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The i-mate extended rom contents are on the ftp server here, so you could install Backgammon, or even the virus scanner from the i-mate onto the qtek (if you felt the need ). Alternatively, you could reflash one with the complete rom image from the other... Apparently, the i-mate case is made from unobtanium (or some other rare, strong and light alloy) whereas the Qtek is made of plastic (it might be aircraft grade, radiation proof and glow in the dark, but it's still plastic). My XDA is similar to the i-mate being all silver, but sitting with one of each on my desk, neither is a bad choice. I-Mate do offer much better direct end user support, whereas Qtek seem to mostly hide behind distibuters.
Just my $0.02
Dox
I-Mate do offer much better direct end user support,
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Almost choked when i read that. :wink: Their customer service is awful. I never got a SINGLE reply or answer in over a month and their UK service center dont answer their phone.
Cya
Stot.
stot said:
I-Mate do offer much better direct end user support,
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Almost choked when i read that. :wink: Their customer service is awful. I never got a SINGLE reply or answer in over a month and their UK service center dont answer their phone.
Cya
Stot.
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I did say "better", not "good"
At least you lucky i-mate users have a customer service contact to ignore you, we poor Qtek users don't even have that (unless you're Dutch, Swedish or a couple of other nationalities). I can visit a couple of Qtek websites, but none of them accept my IMEI as valid, so I'm stuck several layers down through distributers and retailers... If it wasn't for this site, I could get very old and grey waiting for ROM updates from clubqtek.com (if there was one)
Before I hit "Submit", I did a quick Google and it seems there's now a QtekUK.com site with a forum and the promise of ROM updates. So far, it has a handful of posts, and an even smaller number of replies from Qtek people, and no ROM's, but it is a start... :|
Dox
I had a change to look at both the K-Jam and the 9100 before I bought my K-Jam.
I bought the K-Jam because the screen is much brighter than that of the 9100 with the brightness set at maximum.
See also:
http://www.geek.com/hwswrev/pda/wizard/
Dox said:
Qtek is made of plastic (it might be aircraft grade... {quote cut short}
Dox
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Don't be sucked in by all that [email protected]! i work on aircraft and know that anything - especially aluminium cases - which are aircraft grade (normally aren't a/c grade by the way) are pointless! Aircraft grade materials are useless for 99% of aplications (strangely phones fall in the 99%) unless you expect you phone to be flying at 30,000 feet!
Give me cheap but stronger materials anyday!
Dox said:
Before I hit "Submit", I did a quick Google and it seems there's now a QtekUK.com site with a forum and the promise of ROM updates. So far, it has a handful of posts, and an even smaller number of replies from Qtek people, and no ROM's, but it is a start... :|
Dox
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qtekuk.com is just a front end website for smartdevicesdirect, so it's unclear how closely they are linked to qtek themselves.
I have heard on the grapevine that T-Mobile will not be stocking the Hermes, the reason for this is the high cost price, it will be similair to what the MDA Pro costs and for that reason will just not sell enough.
Can't guarantee this though as the same was said about the Nokia 8800 and Samsung D500 when they were originally released but a back track was soon made!
T-Mobile Germany gave it a name already as the Vario II, and there is a flyer on their website. T-Mobile UK makes its own decisions - let's just hope they see the Hermes as a solution to the current shortage of Wizards...
whats a hermes and what will it do for me?
ok how is it going to be better than the wizard? just wondering expect i'll break my wizard about the same time this new one becomes affordable.
PS: some device that can run the day to day relationship with my girlfriend would be pretty useful. or even a text message auto reply option, sense the mood from the incoming text and reply appriately.
R_J_Webb said:
PS: some device that can run the day to day relationship with my girlfriend would be pretty useful. or even a text message auto reply option, sense the mood from the incoming text and reply appriately.
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Aw, you old romantic!
R_J_Webb said:
PS: some device that can run the day to day relationship with my girlfriend would be pretty useful. or even a text message auto reply option, sense the mood from the incoming text and reply appriately.
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Summiter thinks...
starts coding...
then thinks some more about the fortune he's about to make on the future best selling WM app ever devised...
Thanks for the idea!
summiter said:
Summiter thinks...
starts coding...
then thinks some more about the fortune he's about to make on the future best selling WM app ever devised...
Thanks for the idea!
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You could just have it display the word "APPROVED" but it only gives them warm fuzzys when they see it on the cash register display after using your card.
Just seen pics of the hermes thing and well i'll stick with the wizard unless i plan to build a small outhouse then a few hermes would be needed.
PS: the early stages of most relationships surely could benefit from an sms auto reply app.
1. scan msg
2. count instances of 'love you' etc... deduct instances of 'i hate you' etc.
3. use the score to judge the mood
4. probably apologise for conflict in the middle east
5. send reply
be funny if it could learn and have access to ur phone book. you could wake up one morning and its decided that girlfriend 1 is too much hassle so its dumped her and propositioned someone else for you. brilliant!
might be worth saying at this point before this thread get any dafter.
best keep PocketGirlFriend v0.1 top secret, as if PocketBoyFriend ever got written then things would get daft!!!
i dont see why they would. they have the MDA same thing... right?
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
No comments
I just selled my m600 and bought a tytn
gibster said:
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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I sold the M600 and bought a VarioII because wanted to try the keyboard. I do quite alot of emails so the keyboard is fantastic! The phone is quicker. With Tmob data plan and 3G its great.
Downside. Quite a bit thicker than the M600. The battery life is shockingly bad in comparison to the M600. The only way i found to get at least get 2 days worth of usage is to force a GPRS connection rather than 3G. But then Ive lost the 3G advantage. Video calling for me a waste of time. WM5 on the Hermes has many more bugs than the M600. The M600 hardly ever crashed, but the Hermes does once a week. Tomtom 6 doesn't work on Hermes without freezing, but works fine on the M600. Video playback is an issue for Hermes due to the ATI video chip, no problems with the M600. I can go on and on. The bottom line is the M600 has a more stable operating system and works with more software than the Hermes. if you use the overclocker on the M600 then in my option its a better phone. Unless you need the keyboard!
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I just selled my m600 and bought a tytn
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so, how yo finding it?
flashflash said:
I sold the M600 and bought a VarioII because wanted to try the keyboard. I do quite alot of emails so the keyboard is fantastic! The phone is quicker. With Tmob data plan and 3G its great.
Downside. Quite a bit thicker than the M600. The battery life is shockingly bad in comparison to the M600. The only way i found to get at least get 2 days worth of usage is to force a GPRS connection rather than 3G. But then Ive lost the 3G advantage. Video calling for me a waste of time. WM5 on the Hermes has many more bugs than the M600. The M600 hardly ever crashed, but the Hermes does once a week. Tomtom 6 doesn't work on Hermes without freezing, but works fine on the M600. Video playback is an issue for Hermes due to the ATI video chip, no problems with the M600. I can go on and on. The bottom line is the M600 has a more stable operating system and works with more software than the Hermes. if you use the overclocker on the M600 then in my option its a better phone. Unless you need the keyboard!
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so, do you think i should sell the tytn on ebay and buy another m600? how about a trinity?
gibster said:
Hey! I lost my m600 (prophet) the other day and my insurance company are insisting on giving me a hermes in replacemnt. On the face of it, it seems like a pretty damn good deal, and i'm sure some of you are thinking "are you crazy for even questioning it?".
Anyway, i would really like som opinions on the tytn's performance.
Cheers!
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But why they are offering a phone with higher street price? TIMEO DANOS ET DONA FERENTES, was my mother lesson, have you studied troy story (trojan horse comes from that story)?
May be that phone isn't so requested and why a phone with this great hardware isn't requested?
Lot of stupids... or lot of problems?
My TyTN experience: nice toy to play, hard to put your business on It!
You NEED also to know the serial number, because below HTC638xxxx you will face (odds=50-60% in a poll here) the screen alignment (SA) issue and HTC service....., just search here
The screen alignment problem can be easily fixed. The solution is somewhere in here... But it's just a matter of slinding a credit card type of plastic all around and between the screen and bezel. I fixed mine this way.
However, the TyTN and the Prophet are not too diferent in speed under normal circumstances and except when using Skype where the Prophet lacks a bit.
You can see a "real-life" speed comparisson here (it's in spanish but you will be able to make sense of it): http://www.poderpda.tv/episodio/48
In the end, I ended up liking the TyTN more than the Prophet becasue of Skype performance and the Keyboard it's just fantastic.
Cheers!
Rayan
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so, do you think i should sell the tytn on ebay and buy another m600? how about a trinity?
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Are u kidding? of course not, Tytn is awesome
If you don't like tytn, trinity(P3600) is a good choice, it's a tytn withous keyboard.
Eten has screen alignment problems 2.
Just go to eten-users forum and check the bugs.
Eten no thanks :x
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But why they are offering a phone with higher street price?
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i was expecting delivery today, and when it didn't come i called the company. it turned out the stupid woman i talked to ordered an sony erricsson m600, so i complained and they said they would send me a tytn instead!
thanks for the comments guys!!! looks like i'll give it a go!
How do all. just wondered if anyone would like to swop there universal for my Hermes? the hermes is in very good condition and is branded under the T-Mobile Vario II and is unlocked to any network. I really like this PPC but would just like a new toy really. The universal would have to be unlocked and in good condition. PM me if anyone is intrested and i will send you more info and pics etc.
i have ended up setting up a swop for my kaiser and 150 quid. am very happy
kaiser..
isnt the kaiser worth more than the uni?..
Are you in the US
The Kaiser is worth a lot more thats why hes also gave me 150 quid. i sent the phone today so i should be getting mine later in the week. i cant wait!
aah!, i mustve read it wrong lol.. wonderes when o2 will sell the xda star in uk.. =(.. they sell the kaiser tho..
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The Kaiser is worth a lot more
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That may change now that HTC has announced that they are planning to solve multimedia performance problems only in future devices and no fix is planned for the Kaiser...
I traded my TyTN II for an i-mate JASJAR, just a one-for-one swap with no cash in between. And I don't regret that for a second! I hated the TyTN II and was ready to use it as a skeet shooting target!
Then I traded the JASJAR for a JASJAM (Hermes) with a miminal amount of cash. This is something I am beginning to regret. Although the JASJAM is faster and has a slightly better camera, the lack of VGA display and bigger keyboard is starting to bug me!
so u basically swapped a kaiser for a hermes and a bit of cash, aint that like a big downgrade?...
No. What's the difference between the Hermes and the Kaiser? The Kaiser has a tilting keyboard and built-in GPS. What else do you get with the Kaiser? How about poor multimedia usability? Stuttering videos and touchscreen that needs a few extra taps to notice you. Not to mention the sluggish camera that's totally unusable indoors.
I just got the Universal today. i really do like it Ialso really did like the Kaiser mind. The only reason why i didnt use it as much was because it was locked to t-mobile and i now have a sim card for my mates work sim(free internet,free calls, free texts etc) Thats why i used the hermes and am really pleased i still got it. The hermes is by far the best pocket pc device out there. Its had more people cooking roms then the kaiser so we know how to play with it and get more out of it etc. its not bad sized(althought many people do take the mick out of me for having a brick as a phone. wait till they see the universal!) and also the hermes is just such a good alround brilliant phone. i am getting a artemis up and running soon mind so will have a good play with that and find out if i like WM devies without keyboards any good. will keep you posted!
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I just got the Universal today. i really do like it Ialso really did like the Kaiser mind. The only reason why i didnt use it as much was because it was locked to t-mobile and i now have a sim card for my mates work sim(free internet,free calls, free texts etc) Thats why i used the hermes and am really pleased i still got it. The hermes is by far the best pocket pc device out there. Its had more people cooking roms then the kaiser so we know how to play with it and get more out of it etc. its not bad sized(althought many people do take the mick out of me for having a brick as a phone. wait till they see the universal!) and also the hermes is just such a good alround brilliant phone. i am getting a artemis up and running soon mind so will have a good play with that and find out if i like WM devies without keyboards any good. will keep you posted!
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Why not sim-unlock your Universal, LOL
Its a O" branded Universal so it comes sim unlocked out the box
isnt the hermes worse than the kaiser.. lowwer spec anyway..
i was thinkin of gettin a anthena/advantage/ameo.. its vga but its mahoosive.. i was gnna get a touch dual but prob couldnt cope without vga.. lol and its got a hard drive.. 8gb aint bad..
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RoHaM said:
isnt the hermes worse than the kaiser.. lowwer spec anyway..
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What lower spec? If you take away the built-in GPS and the tilting keyboard, what else is still better on the Kaiser?