The new support of better resolution in Terminal client is great! but why not in full screen?? it would be nice working in full screen mode VGA. the bars on top and bottom of the screen are stealing to much space. any ideas?
maybe just a registry key?
or any similar applications which are supporting full screen, but faster than citrix and VNC?
thx
Um, Terminal Services *IS* Citrix, M$ bought the code to it years ago...
I've just installed the ICA client on my Universal, will try it sometime
ICA client works perfectly on my device...Takes up more space than I'd ideally like, but it's flawless.
sl9: oh, didn´t know that. thanks for the explanation.
sub69: well i also have the ICA client installed. But my problem is that i have a hosted exchange-box with MS Office, but where i can log in only from the ASP´s-Website, which again is not supported by pocket internet explorer....
is ICA working in full screen?
but in any case i can´t understand why MS didn´t implement that function. am i wrong or did the last version in wm2003se work in full screen?
Hmmm,
I'm trying to set this up, but it doesn't seem to work out... COuld some provide me a step-by-step tutorial ? I'm working with Windows XP and WM2005.
Thanx !
Sammy ;o)
Hmmm, I login to my work network using an IE portal which (after a few passwords etc) automatically loads my ICA Client and off I go. Exchange boxes and ASP's that don't support IE are beyond me, I'm afraid.
No full screen options anywhere, ever. Not in ICA or Terminal Services Client (as far as I can remember)...
www.logmein.com It's free and nice and it works with firewalls, etc....and of course, full screen
Post some screenshots.
I made an app that will make most apps fullscreen, but show me a shot and I'll see if it's suitable.
I'm on QVGA WM200SE tho...
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vijay555: That sounds nice! as soon as i have some spare time i will post sone screenshots. thnx!
dherrero: Hey, great hint! this tool is working perfect! very fast and the resolution settings are incredible!
I had a problem accessing the ICA config UI localy on my universal. IE seems to have an issue with the loopback address? I can access the config UI remotley but not locally! Has anyone else experince this? I may try reinstalling after a hard reset to see if it's something else screwing up the TCP stack...
Also, I doubt you'll find anything that makes beter use of bandwidth than the ICA protocol (and conversly, anything that makes worse use of it than VNC! :wink: )
wrt ICA v RDP - ICA is based on similar stuff to RDP but is significatly more advanced, allowing multiple virtual channels to be incoporated into one ICA channel, allowing things like drive mapping, client printing etc. True, M$ bought ICa technology from Citrix (and Citrix are, in fact M$'s biggest partner!) but I belive developemnt of ICA leads developemtn of RDP quiet significantly.
I manage a farm of about 30 metaframe servers here at work so getting a working ICA client on my universal would be handy! I've had it working fine on other WM5 devices and WM2003SE devices previosuly.
ICA fullscreen is cool and I've had it working previously. There's a config option in the UI somewhere. Lurverly! Is usless on CE devices without a keybopard though as you can't get the SIp up without the taskbar being visible!
tintoy - look in the developers forum for my program SipSwitch, for toggling the sip from a shortcut (ie Hardware button!). That way, hide the UI but use a spare hardware button to bring up the SIP.
Never tried it on WM2005, but it should work.
V
Sounds excatlty like what i was looking for when i tried full screen icaon my himilaya! I'll seek it out.
tintoy - let me know how SIPswitch goes.
Re terminal services; I've had a quick play on WM2003 and I can do something with it, but I don't run terminal services on my desktop (how can I test it - run remote desktop?) so haven't tested the actual client screen yet.
But, as I said, post a screenshot and I'll have a think about it.
Right now my WM2005 emulator is playing up, so a little delay...
V
i found this today
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...enduser5/html/wce50conRDPRegistrySettings.asp
BitmapCacheSize : REG_DWORD Default is 1500. This value is the size, in KB, of the bitmap cache in memory. The maximum value is 32000.
BitmapPersistCacheSize : REG_DWORD Default is 10. This value is the size, in KB, of the bitmap cache file.
0x5DC(1500) and 0xA(10) respectivly,, im using on these now, i noticed that the defaults on JJ was v low in comparison so i upped them and it has got rif of the black boxes and real slow refresh
however
i added this key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Terminal Server Client
add FullScreenAlways : REG_DWORD added value 1
dosent make it full screen, the way were after, it refers to the terminal session size being forced to 640x376 256 colours, rather than having a 1024x768 session that you have scroll bars on to pan around..
Carnivor didn't mention it, but those parameters are found here...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Terminal Server Client
On my Jasjar they were also way low... 10 and 1 instead of the 'minimun' on 1500 and 10. I changed them, but haven't tried it yet hopefully it'll help
Brett
Don't know if it is relevant to ths subject, but would like to share. I use GoToMyPC. It is not free, but it supports full screen (as always) and many different zooming options. Very usable on JJ.
Also, it works through firewalls and dynamic IP address. All the networking complexity is handled by GoToMyPC.
Carnivor said:
i found this today
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...enduser5/html/wce50conRDPRegistrySettings.asp
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I don't think that those settings are ment for the Pocket PC. They look for me like settings for embedded CE.
I have another interesting problem:
I have to open in a terminal session another session, because the other server is'nt exposed to the internet.
In the second "session" the "Shift" key is ignored. That's bad for typing a case sensitive password... :?
The CAPs key works fine.
Strange, isn't is?
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www.logmein.com It's free and nice and it works with firewalls, etc....and of course, full screen
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Can you please point out the free version ?, I can only find a trial version
it dosent clearly state that its WM5 but the keys definatly make a big improvement of display glitches. those black boxes i had everywhere are long gone.
Logmein is fab. Free, fullscreen and just works.
I've found a good VNC client that works full screen: http://dotnetvnc.sourceforge.net/
Works like a charm if a little slow.
Related
Have a look over at http://www.pocketinformant.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=8904&st=0 for the latest (Release Candidate) of Pocket Informant.
Its well worth installing as it has a much smaller memory footprint (see the discusion in the forum above), and seems a lot faster to me. Also if you can find any bugs, make sure you post them into the forum.... I found one yesturday, and its been fixed already.
The guys at Web IS seem to have done a great job (and no, I'm not linked to them in any way.... its just that their product makes the PDA calendar features usable!!!)
Regards
P
Oh !£@[email protected]!&&! Installed this and now my right soft-key won't bring up the internal (default) contact program (which is so much better than the one in pocketinformant). Anyone know how to change it back? I managed it before but no amount of registry changing seems to work now
I'm not an expert on this, but one suggestion I would make is that you tap on the PI icon on the bottom of the screen (the red dot surrounded by a multicolour ring) and de-select "Make Default PIM" ... this then makes all the MSFT links work with the MSFT apps rather than PI... hope this helps
P
BudgieUK said:
I'm not an expert on this, but one suggestion I would make is that you tap on the PI icon on the bottom of the screen (the red dot surrounded by a multicolour ring) and de-select "Make Default PIM" ... this then makes all the MSFT links work with the MSFT apps rather than PI... hope this helps
P
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This is one of the beefs I (and several others) have with PI, and AF for that matter, which seem to fall on deaf ears in their cosy cartel. Why won't they let the user choose which modules they want to use, instead of their software taking over the whole machine?
If you installed a non-MS planner on your Desktop PC, you wouldn't stand for it replacing all your other PIM apps too. So why should you on the PocketPC?
There is a page in the wiki that shows the registry settings for the soft keys, but I found this method unreliable. I managed to change the text but the app remained at the default setting.
The way I did it was to download Buzz's SoftKeyAppletEx, which goes into your control panel [you do need to register to download the file].
Code:
Description:
This is a replacement applet for the SoftKeyApplet.cpl. I called it SoftKeyAppletEx.cpl (to be original) ;)
This applet does exactly the same thing, but with more features
1. you can browse your ppc to get the desired application or link dedicated to the soft key.
2. you can change the name shown on the soft key.
3. you can place the applet icon on the settings tab you want (personal, system, connections).
4. you can specify only one soft key (left or right) or both
5. you can reset to defaults, so I think it's the phone and the calendar
That's really useful stuff - thanks!
As others have said, I want to use PI for my Diary but the built-in contacts application - which is far better for quick dialling etc.
I still have a problem though - PI seems to have replaced my /Windows/poutlook.lnk file with its own, so if I make the right soft-button point to this file it still runs PI. Can anyone send me their default contacts.lnk file (and possibly poutlook.exe too?) or tell me how to make a new link to the default contacts application (which I assume must still be in ROM?)
Thanks all. Love PI but this hijacking on my contacts is really annoying!
PReDiToR said:
The way I did it was to download Buzz's SoftKeyAppletEx, which goes into your control panel.
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Where'd you put the file? What control panel are u taliking about? Help is appreciated.
BudgieUK said:
I'm not an expert on this, but one suggestion I would make is that you tap on the PI icon on the bottom of the screen (the red dot surrounded by a multicolour ring) and de-select "Make Default PIM" ... this then makes all the MSFT links work with the MSFT apps rather than PI... hope this helps
P
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I tried this and I can report some success. I use PocketBreeze on the Today screen which is tightly linked to PI. Nothing I say here is relevant if you don't use PocketBreeze.
Now, with PI the non-default PIM, my PocketBreeze links take me to PI's calendar, tasks and contacts applications. My hardware contacts button and the contacts soft key in the phone now take me to Pocket Outlook's contacts app.
Couple of caveats: PI does seem to revert to being the default PIM after a soft reset. Also, the 'special days' feature in PB (lists upcoming birthdays and anniversaries) seems to grow duplicate entries over time, but these can be cleared with a soft reset. It's never worked properly for me anyway so could be unrelated.
I have yet to see any problems syncing. I do expect it to work OK as I believe that PO and PI run off the same database.
Hope this helps those with PB and PI.
-- TK
Lovely program, but the last few versions hae been a complete dog speed wise.
belfast-biker said:
Lovely program, but the last few versions hae been a complete dog speed wise.
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I agree. Rev 4 was often very slooowww, although I had installed it in RAM. But this new version is different. The footprint is much smaller in WM5.
But although I have installed the new version entirely on the storage card, it is MUCH FASTER now!
I found some other improvements too, like the timeline now shows you total hours for your different projects, and there is a real fullscreen option now.
Didn't find any bugs so far, but I just downloaded it two days ago.
Cheers and thanks to this great forum! I have benefitted a lot already from the tips and tricks posted here
itoma
i everyone, this is my first post here, and since i found lot's of info about this device, i think it's my turn to make a "donation", since i've been searching for a free SSH client with port selection for WM2005 and was not able to find it, i just downloaded tthe Pocket Putty Development SVN and compiled it from source, it's tested and working, and here it it
Please leave comments and keep up the excellent work everyone
Thanks, could you descibe what it does. What is a SSH client?
devilboy1488 said:
i everyone, this is my first post here, and since i found lot's of info about this device, i think it's my turn to make a "donation", since i've been searching for a free SSH client with port selection for WM2005 and was not able to find it, i just downloaded tthe Pocket Putty Development SVN and compiled it from source, it's tested and working, and here it it
Please leave comments and keep up the excellent work everyone
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Thankyou very much - the lack of port selection was a major PITA for me with putty
meschle said:
Thanks, could you descibe what it does. What is a SSH client?
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a secure shell client is like a terminal client, for example : you need to do some admin work on your linux server, until now there wasn't any GOOD ssh client for the Wizard, some lacked port selection some lacked protocol compat, this one has them all.
thanks devilboy for explaining that
awsome, thanks!!
So how do you do an ESC on these WM5 soft keyboards or wizard keyboard? Doing a "vim" session is very hard without ESC.
So how do you do an ESC on these WM5 soft keyboards or wizard keyboard? Doing a "vim" session is very hard without ESC.
http://pocketputty.net/
devGOD said:
http://pocketputty.net/
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yep i downloaded the svn from there but...
WM5 compatiblity (not yet tested) -> is now tested coz i compiled it and i'm using it
and btw, their binaries don't have port selection, this one does, since it's a build from the latest development source
about the esc thingy, never tried it but i'll see what i can do
When you say port selection, do you mean the ability to choose something other than port 22; or do you mean the ability to do port forwarding through the SSH connection?
I'd love to find a free SSH client that can do port forwarding so I can reach my OWA page (my company places OWA behind the firewall and will only do push e-mail to treos w/goodlink).
Thanks for posting this!
PHAT ****!!
I use (Pocket) Putty a LOT. I didn't actually miss the exclusion of port selecting in the "normal" version, but now that I have the availability, I sure will use it
Thanx!
100Tbps said:
When you say port selection, do you mean the ability to choose something other than port 22; or do you mean the ability to do port forwarding through the SSH connection?
I'd love to find a free SSH client that can do port forwarding so I can reach my OWA page (my company places OWA behind the firewall and will only do push e-mail to treos w/goodlink).
Thanks for posting this!
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yep, that's it, you can select something other than port 22
bartour said:
So how do you do an ESC on these WM5 soft keyboards or wizard keyboard? Doing a "vim" session is very hard without ESC.
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i tried with CTRL-C and it also worked
Anyone figure out how to get the up and down keys working correctly in VI?? Works fine in the shell, but VI goes into insert mode and starts inserting junk characters.
It must be the TERM setting, but I'm not figuring it out. Any ideas?
bartour said:
So how do you do an ESC on these WM5 soft keyboards or wizard keyboard? Doing a "vim" session is very hard without ESC.
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You can map it using PQZII which may be found somewhere in the forums or at http://www.nicque.com/PQz/.
Just reflashed my wizard and gonna test it l8r, and i'll post feedback l8r too
Guys and gals, I hope you all follow the General forum here at XDA-Dev
If you don’t (PLEASE DO FOLLOW IT! I only post most of my articles in there and, generally, do not post announcements in model-specific subforums – you don’t know what you miss!), and would like to know everything one can know about remotely controlling desktop Windows PC’s from Pocket PC’s, read THIS ARTICLE - I'm absolutely sure you'll find it useful!
Brilliant, Menneisyys.
Another very detailed report, that I have not read yet but just scanned through quickly. Thought it worth reporting my (our) thanks for your time, effort and incredible attention to detail.
Grateful Thanks
Mike
yea Menneisyys u have no idea, how much we appreciate ur time an efforts.
keep writing =)
WOW!! AWESOME work!! I can't find the words to say how much I appreciate it
Wow... just posting to record my shock and awe! Great writeup... They pay people to do (a much worse job at) that you know
Thanks guys! I really love feedback like this
Amazing article. Very detailed, really appreciate.
I have Remote Administrator (RAdmin) installed on my PC, been 2 years have had problem accessing it from another PC. Now I'm still fickle minded about switching to VNC. RAdmin was great over the net and lan.
awesome work indeed. Before reading your post I had heard about LogMeIn, but never did the effort to check it. Now I use the Pro version and it is soooo cooooool...
Exactly what I needed. Thank you once again for your effort.
Thanks for the help its all totally appreciated
Thank you guys; btw, I've also reposted the article to the XDA-Dev Wiki.
UPDATE (01/05/2007): Readers’ feedback:
XDA-Developers 1 2, AximSite, BrightHand, FirstLoox, HowardForums.
AximSite frontpage; Clinton Fitch's recommendation in microsoft.public.pocketpc.
In this post, you mention that XP does not support concurrent terminal sessions.
There is a way to achieve this though; in the last beta of SP2, concurrent terminal sessions were allowed but this feature was removed in the final release of SP2. By replacing the termserv.dll with the termserv.dll from that final beta and adjusting some settings, concurrent sessions become a possibility agaian (with a limitation of 3 concurrent users: 1 local + 2 remote).
Here is the procedure on how to do it:
http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/index.php/2006/04/24/windows-xp-multiuser-remote-desktop/
I haven't tested it yet with my WM5 device, but it works perfectly when I run a rdp session from my laptop to my desktop.
Bear in mind that the .dll that comes from the last SP2 beta can get replaced by Windows update; should it stop working after an update, just replace it again.
Jörg
V J said:
In this post, you mention that XP does not support concurrent terminal sessions.
There is a way to achieve this though; in the last beta of SP2, concurrent terminal sessions were allowed but this feature was removed in the final release of SP2. By replacing the termserv.dll with the termserv.dll from that final beta and adjusting some settings, concurrent sessions become a possibility agaian (with a limitation of 3 concurrent users: 1 local + 2 remote).
Here is the procedure on how to do it:
http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/index.php/2006/04/24/windows-xp-multiuser-remote-desktop/
I haven't tested it yet with my WM5 device, but it works perfectly when I run a rdp session from my laptop to my desktop.
Bear in mind that the .dll that comes from the last SP2 beta can get replaced by Windows update; should it stop working after an update, just replace it again.
Jörg
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Thanks for the report; I've played a lot with this hack and found out that you can't use the same account - that is, you can't co-edit the same remote session. Are you sure you connected with a (locally) already-connected user?
Updated version posted; for the time being (because of the hurdles involved with cutting the article into 10k slices), to http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1571&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 only.
No, that is not possible (didn't think I gave that impression).
There is a way of creating a second acount that uses a different loginname (so it can be used concurrently) but shares the profile (folders + startmenu) with another account, but I haven't gone that far. I would have to search for it in case you are interested.
Jorg
V J said:
No, that is not possible (didn't think I gave that impression).
There is a way of creating a second acount that uses a different loginname (so it can be used concurrently) but shares the profile (folders + startmenu) with another account, but I haven't gone that far. I would have to search for it in case you are interested.
Jorg
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Yup, with the hack, it (logging in from other accounts) does work - but, still, there won't be a way of parallelly accessing the same desktop, cursor, app windows.
Pocket PC-to-desktop PC remote control news
In the Bible of Accessing your desktop PC from your Pocket PC, I’ve elaborated on how you can access your PC from anywhere using your Pocket PC.
Now, there are some updates / welcome news:
First, Citrix offers GoToMyPC for $8.25/month ($99 a year) to ex-GoToMyPC users (users that used the service a trial period that, after that, didn’t subscribe to the commercial version). This price (which is half of the regular price) is starting to be pretty good if you definitely need the solution that consumes the least bandwidth.
That is, if you would like to subscribe to GoToMyPC, it’s the best to let the trial period to run out, wait some time and, then, you’ll be offered the 50% rebate.
Second, Parys Technografx, the developer of by far the best VNC client for the Pocket PC, hasn’t been busy; they have just come out with version 1.2 of PT Pocket Office with a lot of welcome additions / fixes I’ve asked for; for example,
Auto selection of a compatible encoding e.g. if PT Pocket Office is set to request "tight" but the server does not support it then the first compatible encoding will automatically be used instead - e.g. "Hextile" with RealVNC.
The "Server Scaling On" or "Server Scaling Off" option has been changed to "PTeSVNC/UltraVNC" or "RealVNC/TightVNC" and if a connection is attempted to RealVNC or TightVNC or another VNC server without server-scaling when the option is set to "PTeSVNC/UltraVNC" then PT Pocket Office now automatically detects this and adjusts accordingly.
It will now connect and work with RealVNC4.x provided that the "RFB 3.3" option is selected in the "Legacy" options for the RealVNC server. (The developer promises to make it possible to connect to RealVNC servers in the 4.x mode in the near future.)
The file transfer works OK for you with the latest UltraVNC.
Also note that I’m working VERY hard on the multimedia remote control roundup, comparing ALL the available titles. Hope I’ll be able to publish it in this or next week.
I've finished updating the Remote Access Bible with brand new, never-before-published-by-anyone comparative information on the new, built-in, excellent Remote Desktop Mobile client in Windows Mobile 6.
Now that the new, 4.0 version of well-known, useful remote controller application PPC Tablet supports remote desktop access, I've thoroughly benchmarked & compared it to the alternatives in my Remote Access Bible. (Note that the article itself will only be updated tomorrow; now it's "only" the heart of the article, the comparison chart has been updated with PPC Tablet 4.0-related info. (Yes, before you ask: I'll really soon publish my multimedia remote controller roundup; I've found it useful to publish the strictly remote desktop-related PPC Tablet 4-related info before finally publishing the next article.)
It's really worth checking it out if you'd like to know how it compares to the alternatives and in what scenarios it should be used (it has major, mostly bandwidth usage-related problems; still, in some cases, it might turn out to be useful).
Finally, I also recommend this remote desktop access-related post in the microsoft.public.pocketpc newsgroup; it may turn out to be useful for many.
At last, a REALLY decent RDP (Terminal Server) client for WM5!
In the Remote Desktop Access Bible, I've promised I would announce when the excellent folks over at H/PC Factor manage to port the excellent Terminal Server client from WindowsCE .NET to Windows Mobile.
Fortunately, the porting attempts have been successful (albeit not at H/PC Factor but at XDA-Developers); see this thread for more information. Note that the port ONLY runs on WM5, NOT on previous operating systems.
Make sure you check it out if you need a DECENT RDP client (instead of the, to put it mildly, far-from-perfect built-in Terminal Services Client) on your WM5 Windows Mobile device.
Can anyone go to this site and download the webview.exe file launch the dll module and show the controls for my security cameras on their pda or pocket pc.
I have tried this on the 700wx and also on the 6800 mogul. I like the mogul much better so I took the treo back.
I can get to this site from a regular size desktop and also my laptop. When you go to the site it asks you to download the webview.exe file and run it. This puts the webview.dll file (module) in the same directory that you downloaded the webview.exe file to; with no problems. It then launches the web interface with a login screen. You login to the server and look at the 16 cameras in real time. When I try with my mogul I get a message that says webview.exe is "not a pocket pc application"
I tried copying and pasting the webview.dll file to my mogul but I don't know where to put it or how to launch the webview.dll module.
the compression I am using to show the live stream is h.264 or I can use mpeg4.
IP address: 70.63.106.214
Please help....
Greg
Hmmmmm
I 'm on the XDA's developers site;I just knew all my questions would be answered by now.
Look Guys, I don't want to come off sounding like a pompous idiot who thinks he can prod u guys into doing his homework for him. It's just that I got this 6800 on recomendations that I had read in the forums and I really do want to keep this one.
I have purchased three phones in the past week. I started out with the Treo 755p took it back because it had the Palm OS I was sure that was not going to work, but the Sprint sales guy assured me this was better than the 700wx because in his opinion Palm OS was better than WM5. I played with it for two days reboxed and took it back, I switched it for the 700wx because it has Windows OS the best and newest thing in Palm. He was right; it is, if you don't have a need to see streaming security cameras.
I took it back to another sprint store because the guy had gotten frustrated and says to me He can not switch phones more than once. Hmmmmmm
In the past few days I have been reading the forums; I think it was at Treocentral, or somewhere and I came across one of those articles' "which is better types" TREO or Mogul, I went to the Sprint store in our super mall and I found a working display of the Mogul.
I played with the thing for about two minutes and was blown away. I said to my self I have to get this to work for the security web cams; but not just for the camera's; I want to offer this as a turn key solution to my client...He has a treo 700w. I know he is going to be pleased with this. The size difference in the screen; the sliding keyboard, I am nuts about this thing already....
I'm not talking about jpeg's refreshing every 5 sec; I'm talking live streaming video from 16 cameras with the option to control PTZ's
All I Have to do is get the Internet explorer part on the Mogul, to work with the camera's software request to download and install webview.dll I don't know where to put this file on the Mogul, I don't know how to put it on the Mogul (yet). Ihave only had the Mogul for one day
go to the site, and please help
The Ip address is 70.63.106.214
if the exe was written for desktop windows its not going to run on windows mobile, simple as that, youll have to see if the company that makes the security cameras also makes a pocket pc app for them
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When I try with my mogul I get a message that says webview.exe is "not a pocket pc application"
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And there is your answer.
It isn't a PocketPC application. And you are trying to run it on a PocketPC.
Won't work.
The only occasional exception is .net applications that sometimes work on a desktop and PDA.
What brand of camera are you connecting to? There are some apps out there for network cameras so I may be able to help you.
Good point!
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if the exe was written for desktop windows its not going to run on windows mobile, simple as that, youll have to see if the company that makes the security cameras also makes a pocket pc app for them
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I guess I was thinking about installing the webview.dll and that would have solved the problem. I am not sure about the software for the camera maufacturer they are from China, and not much info to go on...
When I go to the site: HTTP://70.63.106.214/default.ht
I get this msg: "To enable control work: Tools-> Internet Options-> Security-> Custom Level Reset to: low or Download and Install it
When I download and install the file; (webview.exe) it is a executable that unpacks webview.dll ver. 2.0, in the same folder with webview.exe.
I did not realize or I am not sure if the webview.exe is the program interface for the application to work, but now that makes sense. I thought the httpsvr.exe that is running on the DVR PC was the app for the web interface and would allow all this to work on any platform.
I guess if there is a way to decompile the webview.exe and make the neccessary changes to include the pocket pc header information; recompile it, test it, fix it test it again. then this would probably work. There is not enough information on the software manufacturers to begin trying to find a solution for this.
I have absolutly no programming skills. I realize now, that this may be a question for the developer/hack forum.
I would like to give it a try though. So if you can point me in the right direction; or if the Mods would repost this thred in the Dev/hack forum; maybe those guys would probably know what tools I would need to get started in this.
I appreciate all your help and it has made me think about the resolution, and the approach to my problem in a different way. Thanks
Greg
PC based DVR
ScottC said:
And there is your answer.
It isn't a PocketPC application. And you are trying to run it on a PocketPC.
Won't work.
The only occasional exception is .net applications that sometimes work on a desktop and PDA.
What brand of camera are you connecting to? There are some apps out there for network cameras so I may be able to help you.
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They are not Internet Cams; I have the regular BNC connectors that pigtale into a 15 pin video connector that attaches to a PCI camera card 8 cams, I have two of the camera cards installed in each pc. I also have an ATI radeon 9550 with wideo out for the hardware compression of the video signal to the PC monitor this works for NTSC and PAL signals.
so i have been thinking about my homes security and i have some questions...
i have collected quite a few expensive gadgets and they need protection!
So, i have been tinkering with my **** logitech orb web cam and it now supports motion detection. now call me crazy but i would like to be able to receive on my diamond, the video that has been recorded by a motion detection enabled web cam set up in my home. i'm trying to get my logitech web cam to save on my HP media smart server, running windows home server, not default on my laptop, and be notified by either sms that there is new video on my server or the video itself sent to my diamond. i would also like to be able to connect remotely to my laptop and be able to activate the camera software from a desktop link or something like that.
now i swear this is diamond related in the fact that i would like to use the device as a controller.
i have not used remote desktop on my diamond yet, i could not get it working.
i'm not sure if this is a app request, idea, or util so ill follow the forum template rules once this thread takes shape.
please shed some light on how one could make this happen. i think it could be useful to all of us, at home or place of business or your just want to bust your stupid parents snooping around your room.
so you are looking for an app that does the following:
act as webcam streaming server, but only when motion is detected, and when it does detect motion, it must notify you via sms, plus: you need a simple app for youre diamond to vie the stream..
i dont think I would be able to do this, but if you can clarify exacly what you want thinking WITH you is more easy...
on the other hand, i am sure the pc part has already some usefull apliactions wich are able to act as a server. but im not sure about the notification sms..
it would be ideal if that sms contained a link that you follow to open youre browser to view the stream...
what i know what is possible, there are apps for the pc that record video and send it via e-mail...
just use google for webcam security..
maybe there are pplz around here that can adapt software for u...
but i u seach im sure there are apps out there wich can do that... the only app you need is a browser capable of viewing video streams..
Would be good an app who detect movement, and then make several actions:
- Upload a photo/video on an FTP
- Save photo/video
- Play an AUDIO alarm
- Send an mms with the photo/video
- Send a warning sms
- Make a call (and let you listen what's happening)
....all when Movement is detected via the pda camera
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What you are trying to accomplish is mostly already possible. You'll need to do some research and some creative thinking to get it to work though. You will most likely not get an all-in-one solution to this issue.
It sounds to me like the motion detection and subsequent video capture is already taking place via the software you have installed for your web cam.
Basically you need two things: A way to be notified of a new video file and a way to view it.
I'm not aware of any existing application which will send an email (which can arrive as an SMS) based on a new file being created in a directory, but as a programmer I can asure you there's not much to it.
There are however many solutions which would allow you to view a video file on your WM device from you computer at home and remote desktop is not the way to go here. Your best bet is probably good old http since most video applications will handle "streaming" to file to you as you watch. You'll need to familiarize yourself with IIS (Internet Information Server; I'm assuming you're using Windows) and create a "virtual directory" pointing at the folder where the video files arrive. You'll also need to take the necessary steps to open port 80 so that your computer at home can host via http (this means configuring your router and your computer's firewall). Once this is done just pick your favorite video player and choose "open URL" or something similar and type in http://YourExternalIP/YourVirtualDirectory/YourVideoFile.
I'll leave it up to you to figure out how to best make yourself aware of new files.
As LucidObscurity says there already are several solutions available to this through the combination of existing discrete applications, although .
My setup does does what you desire although goes quite a bit further so it may be overkill for your requirements. However, as food for thought it may still be of interest. It consists of:
- A series of Panasonic BL-C1 IP cameras distributed around my house (running on the wired house network, although wireless versions are available) - these are quite discrete cameras and don't have the typical 'camera look' hence are aesthetically compatible with partners, guests etc (most people I've pointed them out to hadn't noticed them and then didn't believe they were cameras)
- The motion detection/analysis software ZoneMinder - the 'brains' - this monitors the cameras, detects motion (in zoned areas) and records the events as required (it buffers the images so you can capture what happened before the trigger too)
- The SMS tool MercurySMS (and VGSMail gateway) used to alert me via text when motion has been detected (the texts contain various event-related details/stats and a link to the recording)
- A handful of other scripts used for small housekeeping tasks e.g. scheduling the starting/stopping of the system, realtime offsite backup of recorded material (there's no point me capturing a thief on video if he then goes an nicks my PC!), etc
- My Diamond, or any other device with a web browser, used to interface with the system - controlling/configuring it, accessing live/recorded video etc. A web front end is essential in my opinion - you don't want to tie access down to a single platform/device.
Whilst it's not a setup that is up-and-running out of the box now that's it's fully configured it works well - very well. False alarms are practically nill and it doesn't miss a thing. Remote access via the web is powerful and as simple/complicated as you want - on holiday my girlfriend regularly fires up the quick 'snapshot' montage to keep an eye on our cats (we do have a dedicated 'catcam' monitoring the catflap so we can see the history of who came in/out and when).
I'm sure there are some all-in-one solutions available but they likely come at a cost and perhaps do not have the power and flexibility of a modularised solution - it'd be worth seeing what's available though.
Mathew
thanks for all your replies. great read.
i just want all my systems, Windows Home Server, Vista Home Pro and WM6.1 to come together. i will take a look into the apps you have linked to and see whats what.
i already have the ability to record with motion detection. when a new file is created in a folder on my home server, i want to be notified and linked to or streamed. i have remote access to my file via browser [ blazeitup123.homeserver.com ]. i can't get the logitech software to actually save to the server because it says i dont have the rights. i'll try and fix that tonight after dinner, but saving to the server is very improtant because my laptop could be stolen and then the whole setup was pointless. i want to incorperate my diamond into this process as much as possible, like with the remote activation and so on.
Wooow this is one of the coolest threads I read in a long time.
Although I'm not as advanced as some of the members regarding computing, I was thinking:
-Cam software streaming to remote address.
-When motion is detected, cam starts recording, thus creating movement in the remote address.
-When new connection(movement) is detected, you activate a new RSS feed.
-You get RSS notification on phone.
-Connect to remote address and check the stream.
What about:
A spy cam on the Diamond, I mean that you could hide your phone somewhere and point it at a certain spot you want to view. Then remotely access the phone and view the live stream?
Since the phone is so small its an easy hide.
Greetings to all and luck in all your great projects!
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
Looks good. I've also found Wapcam
(Seems to alert via e-mail to you could use either push e-mail or an email-to-SMS gateway for instant alerts)
Mathew
shogunmark said:
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
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looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Blazeitup123 said:
looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Perhaps you should invest in a big dog.
I m using this one:
http://www.accordiva.com/
U have there SecuRanger 2 Support 4 video channels
or one Camera only: SecuExpress 2
SecuExpress 2
both come with WM application for remote / viewing etc..
Take a look at orb.com. It has the ability to sms or email you if it detects movement. You could then connect to your home webcam through the phone's' browser.
...a good spy, like a 007 , should be able to SPY also without his PC
The only one that i've found is Invisible Shooter... for symbian os there are a lot of those apps (no pc needed), but for the pda there aren't many... (see the post #3)