Edge GPRS & WAP questions (cingular/K-Jam) - Networking

I've got a K-jam and I'm using Cingular. I've gotten the GPRS connection work via the WAP settings (i.e. wap.cingular - [email protected] - CINGULAR1), but I never could get the regular GPRS settings to work as a ISP connection (isp.cingular - etc.).
I'm wondering about speed. Will I be able to get EDGE level speeds via the WAP connection settings?
Has anyone else gotten Cingular's GPRS settings to work with the K-Jam/WM2005?
Thanks very much for any answers or advice you can provide!

same problem
I am having the same problem, not getting edge speeds using WAP signon, also How do I teather it to my laptop for internet connect anyone have any ideas either mac or pc... Thanks in advance!
K-Jam w/ WM5

Hey gang. I have a K-Jam on Cingular as well and have gotten GPRS to work like a champ. However, I would much rather have EDGE speeds. I have their PDA connect account and setup my default connection to wap.cingular with no username and password. I thought this was the settings for EDGE but my speeds are still GPRS. Any help?

if you have a newer rom you just have to do a reg hack to enable the edge icon. Edge is the same thing as GPRS, but it uses compression to get better speeds, it is more of a marketing tool. If you can recieve edge you will if you are in a area where is is not able it will switch to the little G g you arte seeing. Also make sure under advanced setting you click the use software compression box and not ip header or it will not connect. Also Wap is just a protocol like ftp or http, it is not a connection so you are still going to be using edge. It is actually really old technology but making a nice come back because of the need for a scaled down internet, for pda's like when dial up was the only option, as soon as 3g is widely available you will not see it anymore. this will put the edge for you and some other cool tweaks.

tweaks
not liking randomness, what other 'cool tweaks' does that do? Its a single item to enable the 'e' instead of 'g' when you have edge available, so I am not sure I want that unless the tweaks are enumerated...

On my 8125, IP header compression was ticked but not software compression for the WAP.CINGULAR apn settings. Can anyone confirm the correct compression settings to use on WAP.CINGULAR and whether ISP.CINGULAR is any different?

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Cingular GPRS

Can anyone help me with getiing my GPRS to work when not in the cradle...I used the information on Cingular's Development site and still no luck...I would like to use the device like my old phone, push the "i" and I was connected...any help would be greatly appreciated.
WM2003
ROM A.30.09 ENG
Radio Version A.33.02
Protocol Version 1.3.3
I get The cannot connect, make sure your phone is on or check your settings...
Download newest T-Mo Radio Stack (get from http links in announcment posting) Manually upgrade you radiostack (See threads/search tool for "upgrade downgrade radiostack) you will find enough info after reading a little to make this work. Prob is that ATT radio 1.3.3 proto' does not work on Cing/T-Mo network. You can leave your current ROM, but might want to switch all together to the new T-Mo stuff.
Hello,
I am using cingular on my XDA II along with GPRS and it works great. Here are the right settings:
Goto Start->Settings->Connections
Click CSD Line Type:
Date rate: 9600 .v32
Connection element: Non-Transparent
Click OK
Click GPRS Setting
Make sure PAP Authentication is selected
Click GPRS-Setting
Make sure Class 8 (4R1T) is selected
Click OK
Now we're ready for the settings
Click Connections
Under My ISP Select Add a new Modem Connection
Name: Cingular GPRS (Or whatever you want)
Select a Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS)
Click Next
Access Point Name: isp.cingular
User Name: [email protected] (MUST BE UPPERCASE)
Password: ZXY203DC9K0402
Click Finished
You should now be at "My ISP" and have "Cingular GPRS" or similar listed for the name
Click OK
You should be in the main connections window
Under My Work Network, Click Add a New Modem Connection
Hit New
Name: WAP (Or whatever you want)
Select a Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS)
Click Next
Access point name: wap.cingular
Click Next
User Name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Click Next
Click OK
You should be in the main connections window
Click Set Up My Proxy Server
Check both boxes BUT LEAVE the Proxy Server Box empty
Click Advanced
Type 66.209.11.61 in the WAP and Secure WAP Boxes
Click OK
Click OK
Click OK
these settings should get you going with GPRS over cingular network.
Hi,
How do you like your XDA with Cingular? I am in NYC and can only get 1 to 2 bars with an ok recpetion. Are you using media works as well?
Cant get Cingular GPRS to work...assitance?
Had an old T-mobile pocket PC...unlocked it and flashed XDA Developrs ROM. What are the settings for GPRS, I have the wireless Cingular Media Package
ROM 3.17.03 ENG
ROM Date 5/15/03
Radio 6.18.99
Protocol 324E4
Still Lost
If someonecan email me or pm about this config. on Cingular Service. I am just having a hard time getting the GPRS/ WAP/Internet to connect. I am using a SX56. Plaese Help Someone! :?
Under GPRS
APN: wap.cingular
username: [email protected]
password: CINGULAR1
This is what I use for my GPRS connection with media works. Does your sx56 has a triangle, raoming, icon on?
I am having problmes regitering my xda I on the Cingular netowrk here in Atlanta. Cingular operate here on the 850 band and, while my device can see the T-Mo and ATT networks, I cannot register on either one. I see that folks in this post have connected to Cingular. Are they operating at 1900 in your areas?
I am in NYC and Cingular still operates under GSM 1900. I am not quite sure whether they will start to move away from GSM 1900 to GSM 850 anytime soon, but we are switching to T-mo in october.
Switching is probably a good idea. Right now Cingular are preventing roaming if a native 850 band network is available. If you travel, you will probably have problems...
Changing the sequence
Has anyone that is on Cingular tried to change the sequence of the network search once connected. Phone-->Tools-->Options-->Network-->Set Networks and then check the T-Mobile and AT&T boxes and move them to the top. That should theoretically change the search function for the networks. I.e. look for the T-mob and ATT networks and try to connect prior to looking at the Cingular ones.
Just a thought...
I am in Dallas and they are 850 around here so I have not had a chance to try this myself... but seemed logical.
Dustoff
There are a couple of reasons for us switching to T-mo:
- Hopefully by OCT family plan will still be $9.99 with unlimited Mo to Mo (I think Cingular $9.99 might not be around for that long)
- $19.99 unlimited internet plan anyway you want to use but not abuse it
- GSM 1900 MHZ
- My local sub dealer offers way better deal for T-mo phones
I am hoping that by october P800 will be free and P900 could be on a sub $150 for 1st line and a free V300 for my wife line.
Does anyone know whether this unlimited $19.99 is good for both Blackberry (I will register with t-mo and blackberry.net), cell/pda phone, pcmcia card for laptop and phone connect to laptop via usb/infared? or Do I need to purchase $19.99 for blackberry and another $19.99 for the rest?
Please advise.
I have a new SX56 and used all your settings but no luck
I have used all your settings. I still cann't get connect with cingular.
Does anyone know how to get the configurator on the simens website to send a configuration for sx56 even though they don't support it.
I know the sx1 is list on the site. Is there anyway to modifiy the config of the sx1 to match the sx56 ?
Any suggestions ?
abohsali said:
Hello,
I am using cingular on my XDA II along with GPRS and it works great. Here are the right settings:
Goto Start->Settings->Connections
Click CSD Line Type:
Date rate: 9600 .v32
Connection element: Non-Transparent
Click OK
Click GPRS Setting
Make sure PAP Authentication is selected
Click GPRS-Setting
Make sure Class 8 (4R1T) is selected
Click OK
Now we're ready for the settings
Click Connections
Under My ISP Select Add a new Modem Connection
Name: Cingular GPRS (Or whatever you want)
Select a Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS)
Click Next
Access Point Name: isp.cingular
User Name: [email protected] (MUST BE UPPERCASE)
Password: ZXY203DC9K0402
Click Finished
You should now be at "My ISP" and have "Cingular GPRS" or similar listed for the name
Click OK
You should be in the main connections window
Under My Work Network, Click Add a New Modem Connection
Hit New
Name: WAP (Or whatever you want)
Select a Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS)
Click Next
Access point name: wap.cingular
Click Next
User Name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Click Next
Click OK
You should be in the main connections window
Click Set Up My Proxy Server
Check both boxes BUT LEAVE the Proxy Server Box empty
Click Advanced
Type 66.209.11.61 in the WAP and Secure WAP Boxes
Click OK
Click OK
Click OK
these settings should get you going with GPRS over cingular network.
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Hi Abohsali
Many thanks for the data! I am assuming that Cingular are operating at 1900 in you area and not 850. Is that correct? Or are these settings allowing you to roam on another providers network, while still using the Cingular sim card. (you are using a cingular sim, correct?)
Regards
Chris
Hi Abohsali,
The WAP Settings works. Thanks, but the GPRS settings don't. I don't know why. I could connect my AOL Instan Messenger but when I try to check my email, it tried to connect to the GPRS.
Any idea? I'm getting tired calling Cingular, they have no clue. Thinking of switching to T-Mobile
Still can't get GSRP with my Simens SX56 (Cingular Network)
I have tried everything I've see here and at Cingular developer site.
I even printed out the paper forum. Cingular(http://alliance.cingularinteractive.com/dev/cda/home) and from this site.
Does anyone have a Siemens SX56 phone using GPRS??
I would love to know what the correct settings are.
When I try to connect I get the following:
The answering modem had disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if need, tap settings
Help ?? Still can't get GSRP with my Simens SX56
Is anyone ready this ?? Can I get a little help
I finally got both GPRS and WAP to work. Funny thing is that IE could open wap sites if I'm on the WAP network and AOL Instant Messenger could also be run with WAP network.
GPRS is not bad in speed, I could get it to open with IE and turned off the images so it doesn't use a lot of bandwidth and loads faster.
I use the settings from above, but it only works after I called Tech Support to have my account Provisioned. So they did, and when I browse around with IE using the WAP network, a message pop up on the browser saying that Wireless Internet Express is ready to use, click on Activate.
So I did and voila, it works like a charm. I also bought IP Dashboard to monitor how much bandwidth I'm taking whenever I use GPRS. While WAP uses my minutes.
Thanks again Abohsali.
Tips for you guys...
Here's a tip for you guys...
If you use the Pay As You Go Wireless Internet Express (WIX) then the settings above will work as long as you call Technical Support to provision your account. Then the GPRS settings above will work.
But, if you go with Media Works, the unlimited one with Unlimited Wireless Internet Express, then the settings above won't work. But interestingly, the WAP works for downloading email. Before, with Pay As You Go WIX, I have to switch to GPRS to download email. Now I just stay in WAP.
The good thing being in GPRS is that it uses your data connect only, not your minutes. While WAP uses your minutes, but not data. Someone here could correct me if I'm wrong?
Is WAP without WIX free, or is there a $ .01 /kb charge?
How much does the unlimited plan cost?
Whoops, hadn't realise you were in Indonesia

Cingular EDGE Proxy Settings BREAK Exchange-Activesync

I purchased the Cingular 8125, which has edge. To acchieve the maximum speed with the edge connection you have to use the cingular proxy servers.
I WANT to use the proxy servers because my testing has given me an average of 300kbps down when I use the proxy vs. 96kbps without.
When I enable the proxy servers, I get a Support code: 0x80830003 from activesync. Microsoft's article (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=830563 says its a problem with ISA, I don't use ISA, I think is just a problem with going through a proxy server....
Currently I don't have the server set up to use HTTPS it connects over HTTP.
Is this the problem? If I change to HTTPS, will it work? I actually though of the HTTPS while I was typing this... I will give it a shot, and let you all know how it goes.
I'm using Cingular's proxy and am having no problems with OTA-Activesync. Additionally, Push is working for me as well.
This is with the phone's default config. Now, what doesn't work for me is PC passthrough and WiFi connectivity, but I've got other threads out there for those issues.
how are you testing the speed?
Keep in mind you are not getting an exact connect speed what you are getting is an accelerated connection thru the proxy this can be seen the most if you stream media you will see the stream speed is considerably slower than the test speed.
for speed test, try text.dslreports.com

8125 wifi - connects to AP, can't do anything

I'm connected, get an IP address, have hard-coded the DNS addresses to my SDIO wireless, set my network cards to "Work", but I still can't get anywhere through my wireless connection.
Tried tweaking registry between B/G and my router from mixed to G only.
No combination seems to work that I can find.
Cingular 8125 - base rom, Linksys 54G router.
Any ideas? I'm sure that I'm missing something but have no clue what.
Thanks.
-Pete Schott
Try changing the MediaNet connection to My ISP. That's in Select Networks on the Advanced tab of the Connections system setting.
Wouldn't that just re-connect it to MediaNet, though? While it may work, that doesn't sound like what I'm trying to accomplish. Just had to hard-reset anyway. Re-installing apps now. Maybe that will make a difference. All of the tweaks have been removed.
-Pete
Try switching the power up to maximum
I have a T-Mobile MDA and I got this a few times, until I switched the WiFi power level up to maximum - now it always connects *and* can transfer data.
Adam
My interpretation of this issue is that MediaNet is a Cingular Proxy which won't allow connections that don't originate on Cingular's network (they don't want to be a proxy for the Internet at large). In the case of a WiFi connection, your public IP would not be on Cingular's network so your proxy settings in the MediaNet connection would be a black hole. Try the My ISP setting to see if that affects anything.
paschott said:
Wouldn't that just re-connect it to MediaNet, though? While it may work, that doesn't sound like what I'm trying to accomplish. Just had to hard-reset anyway. Re-installing apps now. Maybe that will make a difference. All of the tweaks have been removed.
-Pete
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Still don't understand why people are having so many problems.
If you hard-reset the device then LEAVE EVERYTHING the way it is. The only thing you need to do is disable the Cingular proxy.
I got my 8125 2 hours before I had to run to the airport, all I did was remove the proxy (in the taxi to the airport) and when I got to the airport I was surfing on the airport wifi with no issue. Wifi has never given me a problem...just don't overcomplicate things.
That did it. I went into the Connections - Advanced tab, Network Settings. Changed Internet connection from MEdiaNet to Work and connected my WiFi. I was able to browse and sync.
I've placed it back for now because I want to use MediaNet when I'm not near a WiFi connection.
Just need to check on IE to see if I can change it to use Work before Internet.
That was the hint I needed. Now I just need to try it at home.
Thanks for the help.
-Pete

Odd question about connectivity

I have been talking to at&t customer support (without success BTW) about a strange problem. Here it is:
I recently received a replacement 8525. My previous 8525 had the original ROM and the latest has the new ROM upgrade. On GPRS, the old phone would connect to isp.cingular access point name but the new phone won't. The new phone will only connect to wap.cingular access point name. (Both phones used/use the My ISP (without the proxy) network.)
With my previous phone, I was able to download radio show podcasts by going to the website of the radio show and then click on the download link. A "Save As" dialog would display and I would save the mp3. On the new phone the PIE displays that it can't display the page.
Here is the strange part. When I connected to my Wi-Fi at home (NOT through a PC but directly to the wireless router from the phone) I could download the mp3 just like the previous phone. I went to the web site, clicked the link, and received the "Save As" dialog.
This looks to me that there is nothing wrong with the phone since the mp3 could be downloaded through the Wi-Fi connection, but there is a problem getting the download through the GPRS connection.
Am I wrong in this? Any ideas will be welcome, I'm getting tired of talking to at&t.
Thanks.
Cycles4Fun said:
I have been talking to at&t customer support (without success BTW) about a strange problem. Here it is:
I recently received a replacement 8525. My previous 8525 had the original ROM and the latest has the new ROM upgrade. On GPRS, the old phone would connect to isp.cingular access point name but the new phone won't. The new phone will only connect to wap.cingular access point name. (Both phones used/use the My ISP (without the proxy) network.)
Thanks.
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Click to collapse
I had the same problem before.
When ever your plan or phone changes (or anything with your account) your isp connectivity is turned off.
What you must do is call at&t and tell them to turn your isp.cingular back on.
If they give you some lip (I haven't had any lip from them)Just tell them that your VPN will only work using isp.cingular.
I've had to do this 3 times.
Also don't forget to remove the "EnableAutoDetect" from the registry...that will also stop PIE from working under isp.
HTH
I'm assuming you have the PDA connect plan if you're trying to use isp.cingular, right? Also, if you're using wap.cingular and you can't access the web as usual, you probably have a proxy set up. Check that out and report back.
How do I check to see if I have a proxy set up?
I have my "My ISP" network configured to connect to wap.cingular which doesn't have the proxy selection. That is the network I am currently using. I have also found a program on my phone call Proxy Manager. It consists of two programs: Disable Proxy and Restore Proxy. Do I need to run the Disable Proxy program?
rpw123 said:
I had the same problem before.
Also don't forget to remove the "EnableAutoDetect" from the registry...that will also stop PIE from working under isp.
HTH
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AT&T now acknowledges that the 8525 cannot connect to ISP out of the box. The fix came out around wednesday 7/25. Their fix is to run the Disable Proxy in the Proxy Manager folder in Programs. This didn't work for me.
I performed a hard reset and tried AT&T's fix again. It still wouldn't connect. So I tried to delete "EnableAutoDetect" from the registry. After attempting to run PIE (and failing) I looked back in the registry and it was back. I noticed the value of "EnableAutoDetect" was "0". So for fun I set it to "1". I was able to connect to the internet.
I then modified the "My ISP" settings to compress the headers and the "EnableAutoDetect" was reset to "0". I reset it back to "1" and it has run ever since.
So if you have an AT&T 8525 and you have PDA Connect Unlimited and cannot connect with the "My ISP" settings do this:
1. Go to Programs/Proxy Manager and run Disable Proxy
2. Set "EnableAutoDetect" to "1"
If you make changes to the ISP like the setting to compress the headers, you may need to reset "EnableAutoDetect" back to "1" again.
Very good info. This problem has annoyed me quite a bit because the wap versions of web pages really tend to suck. I'll give this fix a try later tonight.
These fixes didn't work for me.
The primary purpose of 'Disable Proxy' and 'Restore Proxy' is to flip the EnableAutoDetect value back and forth. (disable - 1, restore - 0).
AT&T is also in the habit of sending phones out with MEdiaNet and 'My ISP' both configured for wap.cingular. May need to change 'My ISP' to isp.cingular if you have a PDAConnect plan.
I have the PDA connect plan, and my 8525 came configured originally with isp.cingular as the default. It wouldn't connect. I changed it to MEdia.net and now it connects, but to wap.cingular.
I'm actually kind of guessing that the proxy settings are on the wrong track on this for me, because I get a message that the modem has disconnected. A proxy setting shouldn't disconnect the modem, it would just make pages unable to display. There's something on Cingular's side that doesn't like my phone, either my password is incorrect or they need to provision it properly.
The current disposition of the proxy (i.e., enabled/disabled) won't prevent your phone from making a data connection, nor is it required for wap.cingular or isp.cingular. Enabling it allows you to access AT&T's "internal" services over GPRS (and only GPRS, incidentally).
The ability to use isp.cingular is usually driven by the plan to which you're subscribed. I'm not able to use isp.cingular, for example, because I have a MEdiaNet plan. I think AT&T may have a long-term plan to do away with isp.cingular, but I'm not sure.
I talked to ATT today and they provisioned it so that I could connect to isp.cingular. This worked during the time that I was on the phone with them and then resumed not working after we ended the call.
heeellllllppppppppp
Hi,
I was seeing this thread and guess what guys ; the same problem is now international ....
I purchased an AT&T tilt but now am using it in India; My network provider supports GPRS and edge but im not able to connect ; The weather update on the HTC home i downloaded works fine and also the Mundu internet messenger that I installed ; but IE and no other program Including google maps work ...
The funny part is when i connect it to my laptop ; all these things work ; I tried the proxy turn off and on thing suggested on most sites but that didnt work .. Is there something specific in registry or something that im missing ??
I then tried the hard reset followed by soft reset this to remove all the bloatware but still no use .. im so stuck
kindly help
thanks
george

CDMA Treo 700WX Wap connection

Background - I just bought a used 700wx from a friend and had it activated on my Cell provider, Sasktel, in SK, Canada. He had it on an expensive data plan and was tired of paying for this. A friend of a friend works for them and just transferred my account to this one from my previous phone, a Samsung A920 with Wap browsing. Sasktel provides their services using CDMA.
I would like to set up a WAP connection using this phone but am unable to find any connection software for this. The only connection I seem to be able to set up in system/connections are the TCPIP connections. I have the gateway IP address and port and my friends friend at Sasktel says that once I dial in with a wap connection, the authentication will automatically happen.
I have done some searching and seem to find that GSM phones have a GPRS setting that meets the requirements for a WAP connection ie; just the gateway and ports information.
Would anyone have any info that could help or point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Carl
I don't think Treo will support WAP, the method of login is a bit different and not known by many people

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