alpine car kit - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i Software Upgrading

can anyone give me any idea what's the best car kit to use with my alpine while using tomtom 5 plz thx ............

My XDA IIi Car Set-up
I use the Globalsat BT-338 - Bluetooth GPS Receiver with TomTom Navigator 5.1.
I also use Checkpoint 5.02 (Free Speed camera software) and this is configured to give me detailed voice warnings, it takes a bit of setting up but once done it is the best, saved me a few silly points and fines. I have some very good voicefiles if you want them let me know and I will upload. Link below for Checkpoint.
http://poiplace.oabsoftware.nl/
I use a silmline car holder with addon interchangble functions is here, I have it sucker attached to my corner of side window, rotated to landscape view as I find TomTom better in that view. They even do an extra adapter for my Mountain Bike. I also have the Vent Holder, which is very sturdy, but you cannot rotate to landscape view only portrait view, but still usefully. They do the car charger as well.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/5827.htm
As far as headsets go I use a Jabra 250v, but it is ugly and I am going to try the new Sony Ericsson Akono Bluetooth Headset HBH-610 with digital noise cancelling, automatic volume control and Echo canceling, looks good too, I hope it does what they promise.
I hope this is helpful

thx daz999
you've been a great help and if its possible i'd like those extra voices ,once again thx

RE: Checkpoint Voices
Hello Scooby,
I have post some info for everyone at this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=161862#161862
I have uploaded the voices to XDA-Developers FTP, link in the above topic shortcut.
If you have any questions about setting up Checkpoint, let me know.
Laters
DAz

Jabra 250v?
Hi Dazz
I notice you're using the Jabra 250v with your 2i - how's the sound quality?
I bought one too, but gave up using it as I couldn't get a decent signal between it and my phone (2i as well).
Perhaps you did something I missed?
Cheers

Re: Jabra BT quality
Hi,
No I agree with you the Jabra doesn't work well with 2i, I've had the same problems myself, so much so I've stopped using BT headset at the moment, I use the loadspeaker function in the car for calls and also wired headset that came with the 2i.
DAz

Just to throw another bit of kit into the pot, my missus bought me a ThinkNavi cradle for my birthday which I find very usefull!
OK, it isn't as portable as a BT unit, but it certainly makes it easier to hear the directions at high speed!
http://www.thinknavi.com/thinknavi/pda_cradle.asp

I have a THB carkit with my 2020i but it suffers from a lot of echo during calls. I also have a BT dongle for this carkit and calling via the dongle and the THB is a lot better than with the fixed cradle for THB.
any knows a fix for the echo effect ?

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Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.
Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom
It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre
I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit
Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

Bluetooth hands-free and GPS at the same time

OK, I've never used BT but am thinking about getting a BT hands-free kit, possibly the Parrot CK3100
http://www.scancom.co.uk/product.php/45/620//c66c440609f0edcbea5715dd8b464692
http://www.carcommunications.co.uk/...uct_reviews_info&products_id=160&reviews_id=4
Will this product work with an MDA Pro as a speakerphone through the car speakers? What about for playing MP3 files? Mono or stereo?
Also, if I later retire my old XDA 1 from TomTom duties and get a BT GPS unit for the MDA Pro, will it work at the same time as the BT parrot CK3100?
Also, I assume the CK100 is powered by the car: how do you cope with powering GPS and Universal devices? Run off the battery or multiple cigar lighter attachments?
This can help you take the right decision
http://www.lordpercy.com/tomtom_go_500.htm
Sounds like an expensive way of getting tinny sounds through a small speaker to me. I already have bought TomTom 5 and use it on my old XDA 1 with a wired GPS unit. What I want is to use my MDA Pro as an mp3 player and telephone through the car speakers and expect one day to get a BT GPS unit and use the Pro for Tomtom instead of the XDA 1, but I'm just wondering about the feasibility of such an idea.
What I have is a similar set up but I guess it should work for you.
I am currently running my Universal with a BT headset and a BT GPS receiver. I use the headset to hear all the commands for turning by the navigation software and so far it works great.
That's great, Vapor, thanks. I'll see if a vendor can help with compatibility then.
I have o2 MiniS paired with a Parrot CK3100. It works fine. The quality of the sound is very good as it uses the car system.
The Parrot can be set up to sync with up to 5 separate bluetooth devices. If you want GPS there is the Parrot LS3400 GPS which does everything.
I have not tried it playing MP3.
The fixing costs are exorbitant and the unit can be bought for around £100 (less for 3100) and fit it yourself it is very simple. Just two link cables for speakers and power plus install dashboard unit and microphone.
vapor said:
What I have is a similar set up but I guess it should work for you.
I am currently running my Universal with a BT headset and a BT GPS receiver. I use the headset to hear all the commands for turning by the navigation software and so far it works great.
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Vapor, I use a Qtek 2020 (Himalaya) with a wired GPS and a Midland BT Intercom. I get the sound from the phone, no problem, but I cannot receive any sound from the Tom Tom Navigator 5. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Javiersen
well I am not too sure about the other set ups but what i did to my universal was to disable the voice command from launching when i pressed the button on my headset. there's a reg hack for it somewhere on this forum about it.
once the buttonn is pressed, it opens the audio gateway (though in mono) between my phone and the headset and every sound from the phone (including the clicks) gets played to the headset.

Bluetooth Headset that works with Exec?

This is my first post on this great fourm... guess that makes me a noob. lol
I have the O2 xda exec
rom:1.30.107wwe 4-11-06,
radio:1.09.00,
extrom:1.30.162wwe
SPB pocket Plus
Pocket Mec.
Opera
I have tried the Samsung Wep200, and the Jabra JX10...
Both headsets cut out and crackle if the Exec is in my pocket (same side)
or if im moving around holding the phone in my hand...
the only time they are usable is in the car with the phone still in the center console/
Anyone having any luck with bluetooth and the Exec in real world application?
Or is it inherent in the headsets I have tried? (tiny ones)
IF so, what headsets are working with good conectivity?
I dont need to leave my phone 30 feet away and walk around, but I want to be able to leave the exec in my pocket and use BT///
Also, are any BT headsets working with WM5's voice dialer? neither or the two I mentioned would///?
Thanks,
DJ Hurricane
myspace.com/Hurricanedj
How about the Stereo Bt Headsets? (Moto HT820, Bluant, Spider)
I read the Spider has an extended range... Maby atleast a stable connection/
Any direction appreciated
-Hurricane
The Pulsar 590A works OK as a phone headset with the Uni.
Note that you won't enjoy the A2DP sound "quality" of the MS BT stack with the 590A.
Seems big to lug for just a phone headset...
\\
globalsat 818
works 10

TOMTOM instructions on hands-free

Can enyone tell me if it is possible and how??
I have a Parrot 3100 and works fine for calls but can't put it saying nothing that comes from TOMTOM.
I have a friend that one time he heard the tomtom on a head-set.
But only one time and never more.
He doesn't know how!
Can enyone help me?
seem to recall people saying it works if
gps is connected first and then headset
You need a bluetooth headset with AD2P proflie. The standard hards free profile will only route calls to the headset. That said, if you press the voice dial button on your headset when an instruction is being read out, you will hear it in the headset (once only) - probably what the friend experienced.
Hi. I use a piece of software with my standard bt handsfree.
Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router
The sound quality isn't stunning, but it lets all sounds that usually come from the inbuilt speaker to go through the handsfree instead
Tryed Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router on my Trinity WM6 using hands free car kit (Delta System)... When activated it switches off the car speakers (like when calls arrive) but sounds still are on the speaker of pda...
Do you thing it will be necessary a reg tweak?
THX
No idea sorry. I only got my Trinity 2 days ago. I was using a prophet before which worked fine with it. I'll let you know if i do find anything though
IN MY HAND-FREE car kit my tomtom turned off the radio and instructions in car speakers.
right now that doesn't happen.
Infortunately i've tried so many roms i don't know i used at that time, and how make car speakers work again. Any help?

Force TomTom audio commands to HFP and not A2DP?

I have searched the forums and haven't found a solution to this problem. I have a WM6 Athena, and whilst tomtom has no problem routing audio to my Jabra BT8010 headset, my car stereo receiver will not pass the signal to the speakers when the radio is playing.
A suitable workaround is to force the tomtom audio signal to HFP (Hands Free Profile) so that priority is assured on the car stereo.
Is there a registry command or hack to accomplish this?
I have tried BTAudioNav but it isn't doing anything for WM6 devices - it only routes my Athena to Voice Speed Dial software.
I am not the only one with this problem, so this is why I am posting to this forum.
Thanks
kww
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Here are similar threads about TomTom and car reciever exasperation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385257
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397452
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261109&highlight=tomtom+car+receiver+stereo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319729&highlight=tomtom+car+receiver+stereo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358539&highlight=tomtom+car+receiver+stereo
keithwwalker said:
I have searched the forums and haven't found a solution to this problem. I have a WM6 Athena, and whilst tomtom has no problem routing audio to my Jabra BT8010 headset, my car stereo receiver will not pass the signal to the speakers when the radio is playing.
A suitable workaround is to force the tomtom audio signal to HFP (Hands Free Profile) so that priority is assured on the car stereo.
Is there a registry command or hack to accomplish this?
I have tried BTAudioNav but it isn't doing anything for WM6 devices - it only routes my Athena to Voice Speed Dial software.
I am not the only one with this problem, so this is why I am posting to this forum.
Thanks
kww
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My solution was to ditch my BT8010 for a headset without A2DP and then calls get properly routed along with TomTom etc. OK I admit it... I lost my BT8010 and replaced it with Plantronics 520.
keithwwalker said:
I have searched the forums and haven't found a solution to this problem. I have a WM6 Athena, and whilst tomtom has no problem routing audio to my Jabra BT8010 headset, my car stereo receiver will not pass the signal to the speakers when the radio is playing.
A suitable workaround is to force the tomtom audio signal to HFP (Hands Free Profile) so that priority is assured on the car stereo.
Is there a registry command or hack to accomplish this?
I have tried BTAudioNav but it isn't doing anything for WM6 devices - it only routes my Athena to Voice Speed Dial software.
I am not the only one with this problem, so this is why I am posting to this forum.
Thanks
kww
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Technically the problem is with the radio. TomTom does not use HFP. Since it is only a one way communication program it use A2DP, which your radio treats as a completely separate audio source and can only play one source at a time (unless you have one with zones).
So there is nothing you can do on the PDA side, TomTom would have to program it to be a HFP device and then you wouldn't be able to have both TomTom and your phone synced to the radio at the same time.
I started to get one with zones but I thought it was something I wouldn't use since I don't have kids. I kinda wish I had looked into it a little more now. Put the radio on the rear speakers fairly loud and let TomTom use the front speakers.
Given the choice between phone service and GPS, I would take GPS.
So is there a registry setting or hack where this can be forced into HFP?
And for the record, I wish to use the tt6 without my Jabra head set.
also for the record, tt6 works when I have the bluetooth enabled on my car receiver, but it is total silence in between instructions. This is stupid, desired action is for tt6 audio to cut in during music.

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