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Backup Battery did not recharge any more

Hello,
My backup battery did not recharge any more. Now, I can not even turn it on (the main battery is fully charged). In my area, there is no replacement.
So, what should I do now to make it work again?
Thanks

your post is a llittle tricky.. how did you know that the backup battery did not charge? and the main battery is full? when you can't even turn your XDA on?
have you tried to hard reset your phone? it might just be a software problem..

I had a trip for 2 days without my xda, and when I came back, I could not turn it on, I guessed that the battery is empty. So, I put it on the cradle, nothing happened. I noticed there were a socket on the cradle to put the second battery. I removed the main battery and put the main battery on the cradle. The led showed in red indicating the main battery were charging. And I put my xda on the cradle again, the red led showed too. After a while, I noticed the led changed from red to blue. It indicated that the main battery is full. I got the main battery out of the cradle. But my xda still in red. I tried for several time, nothing changed. And I put the main battery into my xda. It turned on. And there were a message saying "The backup battery is extremely low, please change or recharge as in the manual". I ran the battery application, it said that the main battery were 100% and the backup battery were 0%. The software started to install like to make a hard-reset. When it finished installing. It were soft-reset automaticely as usual. But the backlight of screen is turn off, and the picture look dummy. That ware exactly the time I can not turn my xda on anymore.
Now, there is something so strange with my xda. When I put it on the cradle without the main battery, the led lights in red in about 20 minutes and then turn off automaticly. But when I put it with the main battery, nothing happen.
I did try for hundred of times, but nothing changed. I guess that my xda is dead.
So sad.....

Maybe your XDA has a problem in its charge pins.
You should let it checked by someone.
I had the same problem as you before, but I exchanged that XDA with the new one :roll:

did you actually hard reset your phone yet? something like this happened to me two nights ago.. my phone went low on batt so i charged it and it was ok then so i turned it off so that it could charge better.. when i came back to check, i cant turn it on anymore so i disconnected it from the charger.. i took off the battery and placed it back.. but my phone didnt respond anyway.. no lights no nothing! my last resort was to HARD RESET my phone.. by placing back the battery and holding the power button while i press the reset button with the stylus.. and voila it's up again..

thanks for everyone, I did find out the problem, that is the backup battery,
I openned my xda and remove the backup battery, It works just like before. I also experience that If the backup battery is dead then we must remove or change the new one then the phone will work. It will not boot or charge with the dead one inside.

Why take out the battery and charge it separately ?
Just put the battery back to xdaII and place the xdaII in the cradle and charge it together. :roll:

im very sorry for my late reply.. if only you recieved it earlier you didnt have to open your XDA and void your warranty.. but it's good that it's ok now!

same here
i have exactly the same problem with my backup battery...i just got my xda 2i today and I tried to charge it up the main battery quickly went up to 100% but the backup battery has stuck into 75% and after a while the orange light become green as if it has charged. It takes either a soft reset or I need to disconnect (either from cable or cradle) and connect again in order to become orange and probably to start charging again...
what's wrong with the damn thing?
yanni

Battery Charging Issue

Does anyone know if the Wizard is capable of charging its battery in a completely powered down state?
The battery on my Wizard (G4 Qtek 9100) was low today, but I just ignored it, the battery ended up running down completely to the point that the phone powered off, and would not turn back on when I tried to repower it. I connected the charger and left it sit for about half an hour, the charging light did not light, but I left it to charge. After the half hour I figured it should have gained enough charge to power on, so I tried and no luck. Luckily I have a charged spare battery, so I left the dead battery in the phone and wedged thin wires in between the dead battery contacts, and the phone's spring loaded contacts. I connected the + of the dead battery to the + of the spare, and the - of the dead to the - of the spare. Now both batteries are connected to the phone in parallel. This allowed me to power the phone up and boot it all the way up, where the charging indicator LED lit. I disconnected the spare battery, so that the dead battery can charge on its own. Sofar it looks like it is taking the charge.
I'm wondering if some of the people that have "bricked" phones might have run into the same problem that I have. If you have a "bricked" phone, try using another battery that you know has a charge.

go in registry with totalcommander or something similar to this key:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\usbfndrv
and change : EnableUsbCharging to '1'
press reset after u done this.
i had this several times with death battery and wouldnt charge on usb on the
computer but it did with the original charger.

Thanks, i'll give that a try. Just curious, do you know anything about how that works? I'm wondering how a registry key can controll a piece of hardware that has been completely powered down, and that windows mobile hasn't yet booted on.

Hermes SPVM3100 Not Turning On

hi ive tried this:
"Problem 6: Device doesn't turn on, shows red LED only
In this case you can try:
Remove battery
Connect Hermes to charger or USB
Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
Red light should turn Amber
Soft Reset "
but i dnt get any lights coming on it was working last nyt and i took a call after the call finished i put it on standby and i went to use it 20 mins later and it wasnt turning on ive done a soft reset nothing happened, cant do a hard reset and the above witrh the charger or usb didnt work anybody know wat might hav happened i havent done any upgrades its a standard m3100 from orange

mrcopyright said:
hi ive tried this:
"Problem 6: Device doesn't turn on, shows red LED only
In this case you can try:
Remove battery
Connect Hermes to charger or USB
Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
Red light should turn Amber
Soft Reset "
but i dnt get any lights coming on it was working last nyt and i took a call after the call finished i put it on standby and i went to use it 20 mins later and it wasnt turning on ive done a soft reset nothing happened, cant do a hard reset and the above witrh the charger or usb didnt work anybody know wat might hav happened i havent done any upgrades its a standard m3100 from orange
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The problem appears to be caused when battery has more or less zero charge and perhaps fooling the charging circuitry into not recognising a battery is in place.
So - Force charge the battery without the Charger
If your problems remain you could always try the following to manually charge the battery a little (enough to let the Hermes know the battery is present when you put it back in) credit for this goes to triposte as the following is adapted from his suggestion:
Those with a basic knowledge of circuitry and things technical will fair better with this solution. The electrical contacts are all important, poor contacts will render this a worthless exercise.
I leave it to you to decide how you connect the wires. If you have no other means you could enlist the help of someone to hold the batteries and wires together while you connect to the Hermes battery!
1) Remove the battery from the phone!
2) Take 3 fresh AAA batteries in series (total 3 x 1.5V = 4.5V)
3) Connected the (+) wire to (+) on the battery
4) Connected the (-) wire to (-) on the battery
5) Hold this in place for 60 seconds.(possibly longer you are trying to charge it enough for charging circuitry to recognise there is a battery installed.)
6) Put the battery in your phone
7) Switch on phone and start charging (via USB)
Hopefully you will get the Amber charging light.
It may be worth repeating this a few times if not successful on the first try.
Warning - Do not connect a mains based transformer to the battery with an incorrect charge rate (mAh) and voltage (V). Any attempt to force charge using mains transformers could be extremely hazardous (explosive). Only a qualified/competent person should attempt to charge the battery in this way. Similarly, even if you are using batteries to do this task, do not leave them connected for more than a few minutes and stop immediately if either set of batteries become warm.
If the problem persists it is worth re-trying the solution you mentioned in your post as well as the above, before giving up.
The final resort - a new battery.
Mike

hi ive tried wat you hav asked but still not red light or amber ligh it shws no light at all i dnt understand how its gone from working 1 minute to completely not working in another

mrcopyright said:
hi ive tried wat you hav asked but still not red light or amber ligh it shws no light at all i dnt understand how its gone from working 1 minute to completely not working in another
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Yes, I know. It has been reported by quite a few and is actually quite a common problem (relatively speaking) across several phone brands and types.
The solutions you have tried have worked for some, not all. One or two found that it randomly (seemingly) just started charging again.
Your problem is whether to return the device as defective (hopefully under warranty) or whether to chance just getting a new battery. A battery will be fine if it is the usual battery problem, but if not then you'd have wasted money. If you have access to a retailer where you could access a battery just to test it that would be ideal.
Mike

I seem to remember having the same (similar?) problem on my old Universal - I think the solution in that case was to take the battery out for 10 minutes, then put it back in and then connect the phone up to the mains charger, rather than to the USB connection on your PC. The phone needed to be left off (not difficult with a completely flat battery ) and then seemed to charge....
Just a thought, not sure if it's been tried in this case?
Mark.

Dell Streak won't start

Yesterday, before going to sleep I checked my mail and layed my phone next to me. This morning I grab my phone but it doesn't respond. I just charged it for an hour but still no response... Any suggestions

Remove & install battery, then boot up again?

I allready did that twice without result but after reading your reply I tried again. Now I replaced the SIM and SD card too and now it's working again! Thanks.

Don't want to bring you down but It sort of happened the same for me, I went to sleep with 85% batt, plugged the charger went to bet, next moring tried to tur on, nothing, charger was still on, tried pulling te batt out, turn on no luck. Still haven't been able to figure it out but I know my streak won't charge the battery so I'm charging the batt outside the streak ordered a second batt so no way to test cable/battery ATM, so far can't say if it's the battery but it don't look like the battery is the problem. forgot to mention, a couple of times I saw the empty battery icon, so i used a BB Bold battery to jump start the phone (just making sure the streak was ok heh), only thing I can think off is that there was a power surge of some sort and took the charging IC with it. The cable works fine for sync and x-fer files but charging is a NO go. it goes as far as telling where the power source is coming (USB/AC) but thats about it. no charge.
so before reaching my conclution i say make sure the metal contacts are touching the battery, make sure the battery has charge if you are an avid electronics guy I say check voltage on the battery and see how is that doing. I've read a lot lately to see what can be my problem and there is one tiny hope that the battery might have triggered it's security gimmick and it won't take charge the "smart" way and that is why I have to use a Li-ION "desk" charger. But I don't know that much of batteries.
I hope it guides you towards what might be happening. Not a solution but you're not alone.
***UPDATE
LOL, I realized you fixed the problem. nice one!

when you have a lot of applications running which consume a lot of battery you will notice the streak is going to tell you the charger is invalid. infact there is more powerdrainage then charging capacity. this shouldnt happen with the dell adapter which delivers 1 ampere at 5v instead of the pc which gives 500mA.
if this happens to you one time that the device wont turn on or do anything anymore unplug it from AC and detach the usb cable . then attach the usb cable to the pc and stick the other side in the device and wait for it to show desktop, should be no longer then 30 secs for it to show. (you need the dell sync software and drivers being installed)

Dell Streak 7 won't power on or off
Had my 7 for a few days now, the screen was intermittently not responding so I checked out a few forums - decided to calibrate the screen - so powered it off and then powered it back on holding the power button and the + and - volume simultaneously. Now it won't power back on properly - I just the the soft buttons lighting up. It also won't power off. I have plugged into the ac power charger and the power light does not go on at all (orange or green). It had pretty much a full battery when all this happend about 10 minutes ago.
Fixed it - buy pressing the hard reset button adjacent to the SD card slot. Now working well.

HTC not charging after empty battery

This morning my HD2(7) was totaly empty. The power button did not do anything and the phone won't start up. When I hooked it up to the charger, the red led did not come up and the phone was not charged at all.
I tried to do a soft reset, but nothing happend. Some posts on this forum suggested a hard reset, but I did not want to loose all content on my phone.
It seems that the real solution is very simple. Just connect the phone to a charger, remove the battery completly and then place the battery back in the phone. The HTC will now start up and begin to charge.
So, just a waring, do not hard reset when you phone stops charging...
Cheers, Rene

Funnily enough I put my phone on charge last night, forgetting that I'd also switched it off... Came to it this morning and remembered about the charging issue when switched off. Tried to switch the phone on and nothing... So I went to change the battery with the wife's HD2, but managed to mix up the batteries and found that my phone would switch on afterall and it was also fully charged. The wife had her's on charge overnight as well, so both batteries were showing as being full...

Charging issue has been fix up in the MAGLDR 1.13 version

knaar00 said:
This morning my HD2(7) was totaly empty. The power button did not do anything and the phone won't start up. When I hooked it up to the charger, the red led did not come up and the phone was not charged at all.
I tried to do a soft reset, but nothing happend. Some posts on this forum suggested a hard reset, but I did not want to loose all content on my phone.
It seems that the real solution is very simple. Just connect the phone to a charger, remove the battery completly and then place the battery back in the phone. The HTC will now start up and begin to charge.
So, just a waring, do not hard reset when you phone stops charging...
Cheers, Rene
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There is no doubt that this is sensible advice, but there may be an overlap with another issue here.
I have noticed - and it could just be specific to my phone - that if the phone gets to the point where it shuts itself down to conserve power, it will often not restart from the power on button and only pulling the battery will wake it up. This seems to be a 'feature' of WP7 on HD2.
Interestingly, on several occasions where the battery has been fully charged (and still plugged in) the phone will not start from power on if I do a shut down - I tried it less than an hour ago after making a couple registry tweaks and only pulling the battery would persuade a fully charged phone to restart. It would be interesting to know if others are finding the same.
Where the battery is seriously discharged, it can take several cycles of pull battery - boot phone - phone decides it has insufficient battery and shuts down - pull battery - boot phone...before WP7 decides it has had enough juice trickled back into it to be able to charge - sounds crazy, but there you go.
MAGLDR v1.12 doesn't support charging, which doesn't help. I'm going to try v1.13 to see if agarp is correct - here's hoping.
Update: I don't think MAGLDR113 supports charging directly but I believe it has something built in to prevent a plugged in phone running down the battery. Not sure about exactly what, but it suggests something about booting the phone if plugged in and battery is at critical levels.