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I recently moved to a Qtek S110 and wonder what the difference is betweens the two english VoiceCommand versions (US and UK). I used the US version on my iPAQ 5450 but not sure if I should use the UK one on my S110. ATM I live in Europe, cant the US version dial european numbers or what?
I mean, for example, a english speaking person living in Germany. He naturally wants the english VoiceCommand because the german one doesnt recognize english voice. BUT do the US or UK dial German numbers or does only the german one achieve that? I wonder if there is any diff in phone number format at all.
Besides the lenght of numbers has no limit. For example take landlines here in Berlin, the old ones has 7 digits and new ones have 8 digits. Put the area code in front and you have 10 or 11 and put country code in front and you end up with 12 or 13. Or take service numbers, they often have longer numbers, dont they work in VoiceCommand.
I really dont get the diff between the US and UK version atm. Please help.
Edit: The only diff I can find for the UK version: " This version, specifically designed for the United Kingdom, can recognize over 13 national dialects across the country including, for example, Welsh, Glaswegian and Scottish accents so that anyone in the U.K. can use natural speech to command their device." No word about number format etc.
Private-Cowboy said:
" This version, specifically designed for the United Kingdom, can recognize over 13 national dialects across the country including, for example, Welsh, Glaswegian and Scottish accents so that anyone in the U.K. can use natural speech to command their device."
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I expect that this is the explanation. Regional dialects in the US are very different from the UK.
UK numbers
Not sure about the other version, but the trial version of the US MS Voice Command wouldn't allow you to speak uk numbers, eg 01273 ... It was fine when you use the "Call so and so", but using the "Dial 01273..." just wouldn't work. The UK version works fine. The US version also required an american acent when saying "mobile", needed to be sound like "mobble", whereas the UK version is "MooBIle. The voice confirmation is also clearly more clipped than the drawlly american version.
Ok I tried the UK version and I must say the voice sounds a little different and it seems it can pick up my voice better than the US version does, strangely enough since I'm more american than european or british for that matter.
I still dont get that with the number format. I mean in the US we use numbers like 1-800-... but you dont spell the dashes you would spell "1800..." and that is exactly the same as UK or other european numbers. I mean normally the area codes here dont start with a 0 like they tend to do in europe but I doubt that VoiceCommand has problems with that. I'm pretty sure that is has nothing to do with the lenght of the number, I came across anything from 7 to 15+ digits so I cannot believe VoiceCommand would only accept 7 and 11 digits or whatever.
Maybe your problem is the pronounciation of "0", you could use "zero" or "oh" or even "null" (math.), dont know what VoiceCommand expects you to use.
By the way, has anyone ever used Fonix VoiceCentral???
Fonix is on my Magician and it seems a bit hit and miss so I hardly ever use it.
Thats what I thought. I find a few of the things from Fonix VoiceCentral pretty impressive but the execution seems very lacking. Despite that some of the basics are missing in Fonix. I think I'll stay with VoiceCommand for now.
By the way, the UK version really seems to work better. No idea why but I can now use it to dial phone numbers and with my two tests, it havent made a single mistake in a 12digit number and a 7digit one.
If you use the US version what happens when you say rubbish or pants? Don't answer that btw.....................
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??? Whats "rubbish" ???
Pants is rubbish.
Rubbish is what you call trash.
Pants are what we call underwear and you call trousers
I know "pants" but "rubbish" is pretty new to me. Crazy brits :lol:
LOL, in Australia we use both Rubbish and Trash. Rubbish is still more common but as we become closer to our Prime Minister's goal of becoming another US state then Trash may be the word of choice :lol:
Haha, wanna switch? You wanna be the 50th state and we wanna be independant.
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Just wonder what voice apps are out there. I just recently tried Cybertron Voice Commander 2.0, but it seems to have issues picking up what I'm saying. Any one have some recommends with other voice apps out there???
Can you please post this type of question the General>General forum, instead of General>Development and Hacking
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I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, just saying...
Anyway, try Microsoft's Voice Command. I know, I know, just ignore that it's from Microsoft. Haha. Vito has an app called Voice2Go, that's another option, but I like Voice Command.
I use Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 UK version. It RTFO since the last version, they have really improved it. It even listens to me when I am drunk and swearing at it. Best one out there in my opinion. Reads your SMS's out to you too if you want. Full of win.
Voice Command all the way! You can, for the most part, completely control the device (open apps, get a read back of your appts for the day, media player) so I say go buy it.
I'm using voice commander now, but it has a hard time picking up what i'm saying. I find myself having to yell. I like how it has the option to use voice tags, it helps a bit, but it still has trouble when i try to get it to read me my appointments. i'm using voice commander 2.0 right now, i found it on this forum.
+1 for M$ Voice Command...
Jadel said:
I use Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 UK version. It RTFO since the last version, they have really improved it. It even listens to me when I am drunk and swearing at it. Best one out there in my opinion. Reads your SMS's out to you too if you want. Full of win.
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What's the diff between UK and US version??
I am using MS Voice Command and continually amazed by its performance. MS hit a homerun with this one!
Good luck
sci05 said:
What's the diff between UK and US version??
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Hi again,
Unfortunately, as I have never owned the US version, I could not tell you. I can only say that I am an Australian with an Australian accent and it picks up everything I say perfectly.
Jadel said:
Hi again,
Unfortunately, as I have never owned the US version, I could not tell you. I can only say that I am an Australian with an Australian accent and it picks up everything I say perfectly.
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The latest US version in the ROMs and Kitchens is v1.6.19209. What is your UK version number? (It's displayed on the main MSVC screen.)
Hi,
I flashed my ROM to an english ROM with regional settings on English (United States). Is there a way to prevent Windows mobile from interpreting incoming phone calls as US phone numbers ?
I mean in France we have 10 digits numbers which we usually display by pairs of digits, i.e. 01 23 45 67 89. However when someone calls me, WM shows (012) 345-6789, which is annoying. Can I disable that formatting and just make it display 0123456789 ?
I didn't put France as a regional parameter because then the days are displayed in French (lundi, mardi, ...) while the rest of the OS is in English (how f'ing stupid is that ??).
Thanks for any help !
Anyone ?
What if you enter the numbers as +33xxxxxxx (+33 for France, of course) or something along those lines. Does that work? Having the "+" sign, might do the job.
In the regional settings you can adjust the format for each single element. So set it to "French" and then change the date format to your needs.
johnpatcher said:
In the regional settings you can adjust the format for each single element. So set it to "French" and then change the date format to your needs.
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Does that affect the way phone numbers are displayed? I didn't think so, but maybe it does.
Chris Cross said:
Does that affect the way phone numbers are displayed? I didn't think so, but maybe it does.
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To be honest, I don't know I'm still waiting on my Touch HD, which is my first PocketPC with Windows Mobile Phone Edition, whereas my x51v just is a "normal" pocket pc.
johnpatcher said:
To be honest, I don't know I'm still waiting on my Touch HD, which is my first PocketPC with Windows Mobile Phone Edition, whereas my x51v just is a "normal" pocket pc.
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I just looked at my Touch HD and I don't see that it would change the phone number display. I only see that you can change how other numbers, and decimals, and currencies are displayed.
Anyway, let's hope your HD gets there soon.
I always enter the phone numbers in the international form (+<country code><phone number>. For france it's +33 followed by the 9 digits of the phone number). That way, I don't care from where neither to where I'm calling, it always works fine.
ZoZo2 said:
Hi,
I flashed my ROM to an english ROM with regional settings on English (United States). Is there a way to prevent Windows mobile from interpreting incoming phone calls as US phone numbers ?
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Thanks for any help !
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This has always been a pain with WinMo, and I haven't seen any definitive answer yet. There is a lot of discussion about the problem on these forums and in other WinMo forums as well. Used to come up regularly in the Hermes forums and I think I posted the same question a year or more ago.
I think Google is your friend here, but it will probably take a lot of searching.
In the meantime, roll on WM7. (Lots of wishful thinking...)
hi, Friend "ZoZo2",
Change your regional settings From US to UK. I think your problem will be solved.
I did try to search using the search in terms of area codes and what not and didn't find anything. Here is my problem. I got the Touch HD in which i bought in HK last year. I brought it back with me to Canada in which in order to dial somebody's number u have to dial 604-123-4567 . 604 is the area code. So i default set the area code to 604.
However, now that i moved back to HK. the numbers are still showing up like it was in Canada so it becomes (111)1-234 because hk numbers go xxxx-xxxx with no area codes ( except when u dial internationally). Is there a way to change it? I remember changing it before but i don't know how..
I don't want my hk numbers showing up like 604 , it is hard to tell and very annoying. I removed the 604 from the area code already and set my phone to a hk cell phone provider.. I'm using a WM Dialer with WM 6.1..
I also have contacts that are both canada and hong kong.
Thanks
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I did try to search using the search in terms of area codes and what not and didn't find anything. Here is my problem. I got the Touch HD in which i bought in HK last year. I brought it back with me to Canada in which in order to dial somebody's number u have to dial 604-123-4567 . 604 is the area code. So i default set the area code to 604.
However, now that i moved back to HK. the numbers are still showing up like it was in Canada so it becomes (111)1-234 because hk numbers go xxxx-xxxx with no area codes ( except when u dial internationally). Is there a way to change it? I remember changing it before but i don't know how..
I don't want my hk numbers showing up like 604 , it is hard to tell and very annoying. I removed the 604 from the area code already and set my phone to a hk cell phone provider.. I'm using a WM Dialer with WM 6.1..
I also have contacts that are both canada and hong kong.
Thanks
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You have to change your regional settings to HK
leftkats said:
You have to change your regional settings to HK
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OMG!! THank you! I knew there was something i need to change!! Stupid me for nto recognizing it is the regional settings. It works perfectly now..
Query answered, thread closed
Just throwing this one out there but wondering how people in the UK are getting on with the text-to-speech function.
I have an English accent and no matter what I do (change it from American to British in the menu, change it from slow to fast and everything in between), it just is terrible at figuring out what I am saying.
It seems a lot better when I am doing a quick internet search as I figure it then tried to match what I've said to other internet searches on Google's servers so that works ok. But when it comes to dictating text in an email or a text message, forget it. It just can't figure out a word of what I'm saying which is annoying because this is the feature I would use mostly.
In the menu options, there is an option to install a language setting but on my N1, that's just greyed out so I can't click on it..
Wondered if any other Brits are having the same problems and what they're doing to get it working.
(Incidentally, I did switch it back to American English, then spoke in a fake - and terrible quality - US accent and it was a lot more responsive but I feel like a bit of a buerk doing this!!)
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Lol this could make for some good comedic sketch
I could be wrong, but I would have thought that the Text to Speech options would apply to that - text to speech, rather than the text entry by voice which would be Speech to Text?
That said, I can't find anywhere to tweak the speech recognition - probably because it's done remotely by Google. I do know that if you have any way for the phone to detect your location enabled that it'll expect to hear a local accent.
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I'm one of those people that does not have an accent. Ask anyone where I come from, and all they know is that i'm British, No idea about an exact location though, Although, Im guessing they mean they can't tell because it's not clear...
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Lemme guess, down South?
Everyone has an accent, even if the southern one (mine included) is what's considered generic England.
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Cripes, if someone can't pick out a midlands accent they need their head looking at
Cripes.. Forgive me - that was a typo.. I meant speech-to-text...
My accent is very softly scouse but 90% accentless following years of living in London. It really does throw up a few weird matches!
I don't have an accent.. if's all those other places that do
Mine is probably a mixture of north cheshire and lancashire.. very mild by most accounts. The voice recognition is absolutely comically bad for me.
I remember similar conversions when the voice search first came out. I would have thought Google would have added options for different countries (ideally for regions given the variations that exist) but they haven't.
They should really have some sort of standard training phrases to calibrate the phone to your accent. Not so sure about the spoken quotation either, would be much better if it could distinguish pauses and long pauses during speech input.
Should have waited for the Vodaphone version
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Should have waited for the Vodaphone version
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Not going to make a diference as speech to text uses google's server side to function. Let alone the phone itself has proper English (UK) localisation among many others.
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Cripes.. Forgive me - that was a typo.. I meant speech-to-text...
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Heheh
I wasn't trying to nitpick - my point was that there *is* no configuration for speech to text, just text to speech. Altering the speed and language for TTS is unlikely to affect speech recognition, though I may be wrong.
The only useful suggestion I have might to be to ensure you have UK English set up as your system locale and your keyboard locale. No idea if it'll make a difference, but it's worth a go!
I have a Brazilian bought phone, but I use it in Argentina. However, I cannot have any of my gadgets, specially my phone in Portuguese or Spanish. Hence English is the only option.
Since flashing my phone to custom ROMs (Kyrillios and Lestatious) two things happen:
Phone numbers are displayed as: 454-578-87
What I do want it to be displayed as: 4545-7878
Or in the case of using area code: 011-454-57878
Where I do want: 011-4545-7878
As is normal in South American countries.
The other thing is whenever someone calls me that is not on my contact list, I get the format: +541154547878
even though they are calling from my local area code.
Obviously 5454-7878 is an example number and not really any phone number I know, but you get the point.
I notice changing to some forms of locale changes this format, but it also changes the language. How can I keep the English language on my phone, but change these locale-based settings?
Thanks,
Aphis