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During an attack of temporary stupidity, I managed to run my Himalaya through the washing machine (permanent press cycle).
After opening it up, drying it out for a few days and recharging the battery, I was pleased to see signs of life.
My problem now is that hard resets every minute or so in the cradle and dies completely when removed. :roll:
Any suggestions?
A new battery perhaps?
Or a brain transplant?
Yikes!!! :shock:
It would have been great to capture your "Kodak precious moment" for all of us to see!!! :wink:
Anyhow, I would suspect that the main battery fried and need replacement. The problem is that the backup internal battery is soldered on the motherboard and I bet it also fried. But I would start with the main battery. Try to find a replacement battery or at least try to go to a nearby T-Mobile store (or similar) and ask permission to use one of their batteries before you purchase one. :wink:
Good Luck!
P.S.- Don't get me wrong, but If you happen to loose your toy to this tragedy, I would be pleased to purchase the housing from you (mine is badly scratched) if you like to do so.. :lol:
Hi GrayWhale,
You need to talk to Tanvir. After his XDA 2 went for a swim, He managed to get his XDA 2 working all the way up to the alignment screen and cant get past it. I suggested he put it in test mode under the boot mode and see if the factory benchmark test might help.
I hope you get it back to working O.K. good luck with it friend.
i have been searching here in Egypt for some parts i need to fix my PDA. i needed
1. the metal piece on the sync connector. {Shown Below}(this part is essential for the connector to be firm; without it; the connector will be lose and will cause the connetor to be disconnected from the borad!!!); offcourse this is really annoying. when ever i need to chrage the PDA; i put the battery in the auxilary slot located on the cradel (after i take a full backup ofcourse). when batteries are full; put them back; restore; set time/date. and so on.
2. Side slider button. (a very tiny part on the side the button used for volume leveling is broken) although it is not that important i can manage without it.
3. Speaker. (makes a really noisey sound when the PDA rings. i have tried to lower the volume but still noisey; i alos tried to clean the speaker).
yes it looks like the mainboard needs a replacement. i have also checked that metal part coating the sync connector is sold out on ebay. But could not find a complete mainboard. please if anyone has any ideas whatsoever please let me know i really need help. if anyone has a mainboard i can buy it.
Thank you...
Khaled
most likely all htc devices use std components
try getting hold of the part nr's and check around
http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/home.do?cacheID=uknetscape&returningUser=N
like here
it would be insane if it had special parts and anybody would stock sparepart fro all devices or even some
really bad business unless that person charged more then a new pda was worth
of cause you can get a broken one and canabalise it for spares too
I was removing iGuidance v3 and in the middle of it, the phone turned off. Thought I just hit the power button to turn off screen and press power again. Nothing. Thinking it just crashed, I held down power button, nothing; removed battery and replaced it and hit power, nothing. Put it on the charger and it doesnt have any lights showing its charging.
The phone is less than 6 months old, could it be the battery? What should I do? any help here appreciated.
Have you tried a reset press and hold both the side OK button and the power button and then press the reset button by putting the stylus into the hole in the bottom of the device.? This takes sometimes more try's.
Now do a soft reset (again put your stylus in the hole on the bottom of the device, dont press any other buttons).
Mostly this should do the trick!
Ok, replaced battery today and still no power nor charge. So how do I reset? Hold power and ok button down and then replace stylus in hole? Do you mean the ok button on the side or on the front?
You may want to do a HARD reset, not a soft one.
Tried hard and soft resets by putting stylus in pin hole. No luck, think its toast. Also tried the battery in/battery out trick while on charge.
Ive heard of phones crashing or being bricked after a bad rom install or taking off usb too soon, but removing a program and it dying is different. Never had any issues with this phone. Is there a way to test it w/ a multimeter to see if mobo is bad?
What about replacing the little round battery thats on the mainboard? Would that do anything?
Isn't it still covered under warranty? If so, just have them fix or replace it bro.
No warranty. Replaced the screen myself a long time ago.
I just got an email from HTC telling me basically how to preform a hard reset. Well it didnt work. My phone is a paper weight now. Ive never had to do a hard reset before. Used Memaid to do the soft reset all the time. Ill keep trying and fix it eventually by either replacing the mainboard or digging deeper for a fix. Thanks for help everyone
Just got an email from HTC help:
"Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting HTC America.
For repair inquiry, please contact our repair center at 1-888-354-2375. They will provide you with all the info rmation that is needed for the process of repairing. They will provide you with a RMA number. After that you can send in your phone for further diagnosing. After analyzing, they will determine if it’s in warranty or out of warranty. If it is in warranty, they will repair and return the unit. If it is out of warranty, they will contact you to secure a payment. If you have any questions or concern after you send in your phone, you can call the repair number again to check on the status.
For troubleshooting, please call 1-866-449-8358. If you would like to purchase any accessories, please contact our accessories department at 1-888-716-3594.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
Best regards,
Michelle Pham
HTC America CSR"
I called the number for troubleshooting first and was told that this isnt a fix that anyone can do on their own. It must be sent in for further analysis. What was interesting about the conversation is when I asked if he had ever heard of this problem before. He said he gets that problem all the time with these models. Ive never of this happening. Never found any other posts about it either. I bet its a problem with the phone holding a charge on the mainboard, like a faulty capacitor most likely its gonna have to be j-tagged at the repair center.
Hi
I don't think this is a very common problem as they say. Yes, there are many reports of the failing to charge issue and stuck on the red LED light, but only a tiny number of absolutely dead devices.
Curiously, the service manual refers to an on-board fuse. But later states that when this is blown that those without board level repair authority should "replace the m/board". Clearly then, this is either not a fuse in the ordinary sense of the word or refers to any component that may be "blown" and would require detailed tests to track the problem.
Just for info: the m/board is not a basic simple one in terms of soldering / component removal and replacement. Speaking personally, I would not attempt anything more than very basic work on this board - perhaps just on some of the "cruder" connections here and there. Boards in these types of phone make the more typical boards in other electrical equipment look like ironmongery.
Mike
Ive examined the mainboard and looked it over very carefully for any burnt resistors or capacitors. Nothing out of the ordinary. The components would be a huge project to replace, their soooo small, only the mini USB charger port could actually be done by hand.
What would the fuse look like? Is it soldered to the board? I see a small round battery near the PTT button. Is this something that can be replaced? Probably messes up the BIOS when removed like a computer motherboard.
I shouldnt have been so quick to sell off my Wizard before this happened.
often fuses are no longer used, they use a for example 1 Ohm resistor of limited power rating instead.
You might try to follow the current on the mobo while the charger is connected, see whether you can locate the disconnecting (faulty) part.....but the size of the components makes this a very difficult job....my gues would be that the problem is located near the power entry/regulator if nothing goes, meaning no action while on battery nor w the charger connected.
marcelnl said:
often fuses are no longer used, they use a for example 1 Ohm resistor of limited power rating instead.
You might try to follow the current on the mobo while the charger is connected, see whether you can locate the disconnecting (faulty) part.....but the size of the components makes this a very difficult job....my gues would be that the problem is located near the power entry/regulator if nothing goes, meaning no action while on battery nor w the charger connected.
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But these are multi-layered boards, it will be very hard to trace a connection on it.
Ok, so I lost my motherboard. Probably something killed it during the whole uninstall process. Made peace w/ that. Maybe bury it in the backyard or something. LOL
I bought it to replace my aging 8125, but wonder if I did it for the wrong reason. I thought the new processor would be way faster, but it really wasnt that fast. 8525 has a nicer housing, camera and 3G (which i never used), A2DP that doesnt skip. Never even used the pre-installed programs like Mobi-TV, Telenav, etc.
Anyways, anyone think a 8125 motherboard will fit in a 8525 housing?
Hi,
My S100 keeps hard reseting. It was working ok, until last week. Since then, it has hard reset 3 times now.
It happens randomly. I've formatted the SD card as well, in case the issue was card related. I don't know what to do...
R 1.12.00
G 1337.42
D 1.12.120 WWE
Could it have anything to do with my backup battery?
I've noticed that I have no issues if it's connected to the power, but if my battery gets to half capacity, it's when my problems begin...
ALL help is welcome....
Hi got same problem ...unfortunately while using tomtom so i lose myself somewhere in between Austria,Switzerland and Germany....
so it reset many times even while phisically resetted...it didn't start any more for 10 min and then it starts properly...and again and again.....
noticed low internal battery....will change it (if i found the user manual) and i'll let You know the progress...
....small reply...i check in the User Manual but no idea on how to change and which is the internal backup battery....any suggestion ? ? ?...pls ?
up.........thnks
uh...well i have the same problem and i know why it happens...
It's just that the back cover has a small plastic notch at the bottom right side which must touch and push a small switch located at the bottom right (the switch is located just above the red plastic thing).
Since my back cover has a side plastic notch that is broken, sometimes the back cover gets a little bit loose, forcing the bottom switch notch to release that switch which in turn forces the ppc to sometimes reboot/hard reset.
Check if your back cover is Okey.
Keeper
Keeper said:
uh...well i have the same problem and i know why it happens...
It's just that the back cover has a small plastic notch at the bottom right side which must touch and push a small switch located at the bottom right (the switch is located just above the red plastic thing).
Since my back cover has a side plastic notch that is broken, sometimes the back cover gets a little bit loose, forcing the bottom switch notch to release that switch which in turn forces the ppc to sometimes reboot/hard reset.
Check if your back cover is Okey.
Keeper
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WOAH...got it....(i'll keep testing tomorrw while running somewhere in France....) is enough to force it with a ...."piece-of-something" placed there in case? or there are some other indications on "how to"??.....
say thanks anyway is always not enought......
yes...you can use whatever you like...(you can even glue it)
Honestely i don't know what was HTCs ideia of putting that dumb switch in there...
Regards,
Keeper
Yeah, that switch is pretty dumb and a waste of money. None of my newer HTC phones have that switch. I guess in more recent phones they realized it was a waste.
The switch was there for a good reason
Hi! The switch is there to turn off the phone when you open the battery cover. Remember, WM 2003 is based on volatile memory, so if the power goes out, all of your data gets deleted and the OS has to reload from flash rom. Anyway, to my understanding the switch has to do with not using the backup battery without the actual battery in there as the backup battery is strong enough to power the volatile memory but not the entire device. The solution I chose for my device is a piece of clear plastic tape running along the crack between the battery door and the camera housing. I attached the tape to the sides as well, and made sure to use the stylus to push the tape down between the grooves on the sides. Otherwise dust would get in right away and weaken the bond blah blah blah.
Summary: Tape on the battery cover, the switch was a good thing. All devices since MDA Compact run WM5, which is non-volatile memory based and is always stored no matter what.
Hi guys,
At first I decided to open up my Magician, to look for that "backup" battery.
Didn't find any.
Turns out, my hard reset problem is caused by my phone battery. The regular battery is wasted. So wasted that the phone cant hold the backup. I found it weird that the phone wouldn't hard reset if was kept on power. As soon as i unplugged it, it went bye bye.
I managed to test it with a battery from a friend, and as soon as he used my battery on his phone, the backup warning come up.
I don't wanna say that, in some cases, the back lid won't cause this problem.
In my case, thankfully I managed to sort out where the problem was.
Thanks!
It keeps hard resetting
Hi Guys,
i've tried all the above written tips and tricks; but, my magician still have the same problem, every time i removes my battery it goes hard reset and again i've to start from the scratch - align screen - then it installs the applications again and back to the square one.
previously it was ok and after a year and half of using it started going soft reset now and then itself - i gave it to a local services center, they said that it has a loose contact to the battery that's why it gets soft reset, so i got my battery connector replaced. it solved the soft reset problem, but now the bigger problem has come up - it goes hard reset every time i remove my battery.
one thing i've noticed - it never hard resets when i keep it connected with my charger or usb cable
any one has any idea why its happening...
well i would suggest that your backup battery is dead...
Keeper
that i've checked keeper it always shows 100%.
and all the time since i bought this i've never seen that thing moving from 100%,
ok just tell me is it possible to replace the backup battery?
Well, i doubt it...all this stuff is really small...honestely i don't even know where is the backup located at, in the pcb... (photo of the pcb is in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/naked-magician-insane.jpg)
I would suggest that you should go to a repair center and ask them for a repair cost budget...that way you'll be informed what exactly is wrong with your pda...
Keeper
webshocker, if you want to try and replace your backup battery, check the photo in attachment that i've made...
It seems that it ain't that hard to replace it...
Regards,
Keeper
Dear all,
1- I have I-mate Jam, my mobile re-start without any reason. I mean whenever I receive any call or even without touching any button, it restart. I'm afraid about it. Is it infected by any virus??
2- By mistake I add a folder name "patches" in my memory card, about 25 subfolder has been added automatically, now I can’t delete it. Is there any other solution than formatting my memory card?
3- Is there any possibility that any mobile show 165,315 (18.8 years countinuously) hours outgoing call duration?? I think it is very funny. Surly there is any problem.
Please help me....
Ali
Hi there,
1. It's very unlikely that that's caused by a virus. There's what, like only 4-5 viruses last time I checked? And they're all prototypes and pretty harmless. I'd say the problem lies with your battery contact plates. Try cleaning them with the usual contact cleaners.
Some people suggest adding a piece of paper between the battery and the base so as to improve contact, but I'm not sure how this affects the heat generated by the battery. Also, a loose battery cover may also cause periodic restarts.
2. Whats inside the subfolders? If there's a file in use inside it, then it'll probably be locked out. What file management software did you use to create the directory? I use GSFinder to browse my files, and that has never given me any problem with file management and deletion.
http://pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1203
3. Maybe you call out more than you realize ? Not sure about this, but then again I've never tried 2.03.
Hope this helps.
Hi
1- I was assuming these solutions; someone told me that it is due to weak battery, so I replaced it. Secondly I cleaned the battery contact plates, but I am afraid why my cell battery got so hot .... I don't keep any hot material in my cell . If it is due to any virus, can you suggest any effective antivirus?
2- All the subfolders are empty. Whenever I search anything in my memory card, my PDA got stuck n I have to re-start it. Is there any software which help me in formatting my card?
3- Can I clean my call history from my PDA?
Regards
Hi,
1. So cleaning the contacts didn't help? Well, make sure that your battery cover is secure, because loose battery cover happened to me once and I experienced random restarts. There's a latch near the battery that switches the power, if I'm not mistaken, and it's pressed only when the cover is put in place. I added some dry super glue on my cover and the problem went away.
I'd guess that the battery itself wasn't a problem, as weak batteries usually result in early shutdowns at 40% power or so. Be careful with hot batteries though. Low quality batteries can brick your phone permanently. Also, Li-Polymer batteries can catch fire when overheated. Make sure you only use legitimate, official batteries. It's much safer to use originals than one of those dodgy cheap ones on eBay.
If you're still looking for an antivirus, you may wanna try Avast PDA edition:
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-pda.html
This one has a free trial. But not sure about the quality though, as I've never used this on my phone. But the Home Edition on my PC works perfectly.
2. What file explorer are you using? Have you tried GSFinder, Total Commander or other freeware file explorers that are available?
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?sortby=rating&cat=23
Have a look at this to try format the card:
http://www.wizcode.com/products/view/pocket_mechanic_professional
Hope this helps.
Screen setting
Hi
Thanks for your useful tips. I tried them all and I was just tired but in vain. At last I bought a set of screw driver. I opened my cell (I don't recommend anyone to do so, because you can damage your cell) I opened it and find carbon ( very slight ) on different points ( can’t explain exactly where the points were because I don't have diagram of I-mate Jam ). I removed that carbon with thinner (It was very risky)
Someone was asking about screen resent problem on this forum. My cell also had the same problem. There is a bunch of wires coming from the back of touch screen, these wires fix inside a socket. There is a black color cover that fix the wires inside that socket. During mishandling that cover got loose, that's why my cell flickered some time. I had to reset the screen touch (which irritated me a lot). I fixed that cover and now my Jam works perfect.
As I said earlier, opening this kind of sensitive sets sometime damage your cell. My mobile mike is not working properly. I don't know where problem is.
I need help.
Ps. I need I-mate Jam circuit.