Hi
I just got a new Trinity. I upgrade it to WM6.
Today i was on the road with IGo navigation software. After few minutes with software on, the case start to heat. When i tried to charge it i got the blinking red led which say not charging. In the end i got a shutdown bcs no battery at all. I power up again, and i put the pda near AC hole, and in few seconds i got steady red led and battery was charging. After i put it back in the socket in few mins again no charging. In manual its written that there is a charging protection when battery is getting hot.
Did anyone encounter this problem before? Maybe its a problem with IGO and WM6.. after i close the igo and let on standby charging was ok.
VirtualM
Yup, I encountered this problem too. At first I was a little scared, didn't know what the red blinking led was meaning... but then I realized the Trinity was very hot, so I did the same, put it near a AC hole (actually in the torpedo, which also has AC for cooling drinks ).
I was using iGo on WM5, not WM6, but I don't think this makes any difference.
I'm thinking it's either a car charger problem (most probably) or even car plug parameters (voltage/intensity). I'll check later if there's any intensity (mA) output specification on the charger.
I had this on my previous FS N560, but haven't seen it on the Trinity with WM6 and TTN or iGO 2006.
The GPS receiver can get hot, so may overheat the battery. Make sure it is mounted somewhere cool- not on the windscreen in Summer, as the sun's heat can really cause problems. I now use a low mounted powered Brodit holder which is fantastic!
Had this happen for the first time yesterday. Everything has been working fine for some time and no recent change to the ROM. Have changed the car charger for a Moto V3 charger, the chargers (both old and new) have light to show they are getting power. The first time it happened the phone started charging after about 5mins. then each time after that there is nothing more than a flash of the orange light for a second.
Everything works fine with an ac charger. Will check the output in the car next to make sure it is all ok.
Hey Guys,
I have a query regarding charging my Hermes / 8525.
If I plug the phone into a wall unit, the orange charge light immediately comes on.
If I use the phone, or receive a call the phone continues to charge.
Once the phone has been used the phone/screen stays on.
When I plug the phone into my car adapter, the phone doesn't begin to charge until the phone goes into sleep mode. But then when I go to use the phone it stops charging. So if the battery is on it's last minutes, plugging the phone into my car adapter does NOT let me continue to use the phone. I have tried 3 different car chargers.
This week I bought an XTLINK Bluetooth Cell to Landline Converter. This is a great little box, and I love that once I walk into my house my cell phone rings through my phone system. Call Clarity is great.
But with the Bluetooth link active constantly the battery drains like crazy.
So I purchased a desktop charger unit. It arrived today. You can use it to charge the phone or with USB to synch the phone. So I plugged in the wall adapter to the cradle, and the phone only charges when not in use.
But when I hook up the cradle via mini-usb to my laptop the phone goes into constant charge mode - but it's doesn't stay on after being in use.
Can someone explain to me why the phone has these different charging modes ? Is there something I can do to change a setting to make the charging more consistent ?
Thank you,
Dave
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no one else knows about this ?
I have the same problem with USB charging in the car when I was running vp3G's Rom. Now I switch to Crc's Rom and the problem is gone.
But my phone would stop charging if I use my GPS software thru bluetooth and bluetooth headset. In that case I just reset my phone and it would charge normal again.
I have seen this too. I don't know the exact details, but the phone checks the charging current when it is on, to see if it's within a certain value. If it's not, it stops the charging circuit to protect the battery. That's why it works when it is asleep. You'll need to buy a car charger specifically designed for the Hermes.
Yep, there is a long thread on car charging on the forum. Like the other uses says, either buy a HTC official charger or have a look at the other thread about soldering pins 4 & 5 together on the USB connector.
I have a generic car charger from a local electronics store that does not have a problem charging whilst talking over a bluetooth hands free and navigating using a
bluetooth gps receiver, however, I am using one of CRC's roms so that might be why.
The only thing I have found is that if I leave the charger plugged into the hermes when I start the car the hermes stops charging and will not charge again until I reboot it... disconnecting the plug before cranking the engine and then whacking it in straight after works around the problem though.
There is probably so much of a voltage drop when cranking the engine that the little DC-DC convertor can not keep the charge current up.
I use an O2 XDA Exec (Universal) to run TomTom 6 navigation software using a Bluetooth GPS receiver. I obviously have a car charger connected, too.
However, the thing will suddenly reboot for seemingly no reason - sometimes it will run OK for hours before rebooting, other times barely a few minutes. I've noticed other postings talking about battery problems causing random reboots but I have external power.
So, does anyone think that the Universal running TomTom with obviously the backlight and Bluetooth permanently on would draw more current than the charger can supply? Could it be that I'm just running out of power?
I can't believe the problem is related to heat as I've had the problem with a cold Universal.
Would a new beefier battery help? - or could I create a power supply which would feed enough current to satisfy the hugnry beast?
Hi,
I have a navigation software on my x10. everything works fine but it seems that this programm needs so much battery that the charger can´t charger the battery.
With navigation turned on and charging the battery is still getting lower and lower.
I have a self build car charger in my car with 1000mA but it seems, that it´s not enough.
Have you any suggestions, how to solve the problem? Is there an app to change the cpu usage for the navigation to e.g. 60% instead of 100%? Or is this only possible with rooted phones?
Thanks.
Same Problem over here.
My only solution --> 2G instead of 3G and turning off W-Lan.
In that way (with GPS and Bluetooth active), the phone at least charges very slowly and doesn't drain the battery.
I had turned WLAN, BT, 3G off. But my battery was still not loading... Maybe I have to switch from 100% Screen brightness to automatic. I will try it the next time...
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...But my battery was still not loading...
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But the charging symbol shows up?
Did you shorten the Data+ and Data- Lines on your selfmade car charger?
I guess, you build it, like i did:
I took a 12V cigarette lighter to USB adapter.
Then I broke that thing apart and soldered a (micro) USB cable directly do the USB jack.
To make it working, I had to shorten the inner two lines.
Otherwise, the phone didn't charge at all.
Then I glued / taped / bubblegummed the whole thing an threw it behind my radio
Or did you build an other solution?
I build it myself, not broken a charger, and yes, it´s working (data is shorten), but it´s not enough to load the battery during navigation. If I turn navigation off, my battery is charging as usual.
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I build it myself.
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Nice one
Uhm.. what about rising mA a little further?
I've no clue what max. should be.
Probably you know?
I've also seen USB Chargers with 1500mA.
But I dunno, if its a good idea.
Phone + Battery would also heat up a little further...
Another Idea:
Maybe there is a couple of Apps running at full load in the background?
Take a look around in this forum.
Especially at the "helix launcher" and the "battery life issues" threads.
You can also download the App "SystemPanelLite".
With that one you can search and monitor the running Apps and their CPU consumption and so on.
With "Task Manger" (the one made by Rhythm Software) you can set up a auto kill rule.
Hope, that helps...
I have also tried to charge my phone with my car charger left from Omnia HD and the phone is not charging ??? HTC Desire is charging but X10 is not. Can someone tell me what could be the problem ??
Tnx
@damirbusic
The Problem is, that the two Data Pins (2 & 3 - the two middle ones)) must be shorten. Then the X10 is loading...
@McKebapp
I´m tried it with helix launcher and have some applications auto killed and all tasks closed. But it's still not enough.
It´s possible to charge the Li-Ion Batteries with 1500 mA. That will be my last solution. Don´t want to charge it with 1500mA due to overheating, specially in the summertime...
I don't have this issue at all, weird
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@UserX10:
Uhm... that is strange after all...
Which Navi-SW do u use?
I use "Sygic" for onboard navigation.
Normaly I use Sygic, too.
I tried Navigon, too, but the same result.
Both Apps draining the battery more then the charger is loading...
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Normaly I use Sygic, too.
I tried Navigon, too, but the same result.
Both Apps draining the battery more then the charger is loading...
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Really Strange...
Which temperatures do you have to deal with?
My last Idea: Maybe some overheat protection, that limits the charging rate?
By my one is the problem defently the temparatur... when i hold me phone in to the airstream from the aircooling then does the phone charging works. If i let the phone just on the right side of me on seat the it doesnt charged. But the symbol on the phone say the is currently charging... with the tool batterygraph can i see, thats isnt true...
aso i can reconized that the phone is hot.. realy hot.. extremly when the sun does shine on the phone.. the only solution is for me, to hold the phone from time to time at the airstream or i let the phone down in to the footweel, where does the sun not shine and a airstream flow around...
The akku is the warmest thing. without the cover, it works better.. i thnk the akku has around 45°... when is hot..
tested with navigon..
Hm... that´s possible. I will try it the next time with holding it in the airstream... Maybe that´s the solution.
I've got an windshield holder (dunno the correct English word).
While I'm driving open with my convertible, I set the airstream to the windshield (demister setting, but without heat), to cool the Phone a little down.
(If the Car is closed, I usually drive with activated A/C at 19°C - 23°C depending on my mood and the frozen girl on my side )
My Phone never exceeded 40°C.
So, this really may be the solution.
BY shorten the middle 2 pins... do you mean "short circuit" by joining the pins together in some way.
I have the same issue - I have the car charger from my old samsung omnia but it doesn't charge the phone and using any navigation software drains the battery very quickly
Jepp, short circuit the both two middle pins, then it will work.
For information: I tested today the charging with power supply.
780 mA is the maximum what the X10 takes. Tested with empty Battery (in Idle Mode and Apps running + WLAN + BT + GPS). Same result.
So a 1000 mA charger is fully sufficient.
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For information: I tested today the charging with power supply.
780 mA is the maximum what the X10 takes. Tested with empty Battery (in Idle Mode and Apps running + WLAN + BT + GPS). Same result.
So a 1000 mA charger is fully sufficient.
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i had bought an FM transmitter for the iphone for like 10bucks... the charger is USB so i just use the sony's charger cable and plug it in and it works great for me when i use NAV....no problems here
UserX10 said:
For information: I tested today the charging with power supply.
780 mA is the maximum what the X10 takes. Tested with empty Battery (in Idle Mode and Apps running + WLAN + BT + GPS). Same result.
So a 1000 mA charger is fully sufficient.
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Great work!
What's your opinion about your battery drainage?
Do you really think that the phone, running at full load, will suck more than 780mA to prevent charging?
Or is it really an overheating prevention?
Something I realized today:
I drove around for about an hour today.
We had 31,5°C today.
The phone was placed in its windscreen holder directly facing with its backside to the sun.
I drove with closed top A/C at 23°C.
At the end, when I was at home, the App "TempMonitor" showed me 56°C at the battery, that still was charging.
On weekend I'll try pushing the limits a little higher.
Empty battery + Navigation + open top without any A/C.
I hope my phone doesn't melt away
Hi there forum users...
I have discovered a big issue with my X10i.
When i use the GPS it drain my battery even thoug i bought the S/E car-charger only for that reason (to use the gps in my car)
It seems to me, that the phone SHOULD be able to at least maintain the same amount of "battery left" (not drain the battery any more), when using the GPS with the car charger plugged in, but for some reason even the car-charger don´t give enough power to run the navigation system
Hi.
I recently went a 400km trip with Google Maps Navigation also using the SE Car Charger, but in my case the battery power has risen. Are you using newest Firmware Version?
I have discovered the same thing, using a 3rd party car charger. Sometimes it would just stop charging... It seems to correlate to times where the battery was getting hotter then usual, so maybe its a "feature" of the charging controller to prevent battery from overheating... I was on 020 firmware then, havent tried it since I upgraded...
Same issue as the OP today, with a nokia car charger.
Lost battery power despite being plugged in. Battery also hit 55C, and it's not like I'm in a hot country, I'm in scotland!
Those with success running nav, what model of charger do you use? If it's unknown what's the output in mA?
Mine was doing the same thing (Stops Charging) until I pointed and air conditioning vent up so that it would slightly cool the phone. Then it ran nav and charged slowly the whole time.
It just gets too hot with the screen on fulltime and all of that running.
There is a battery failsafe where it will not charge if the temperature is over a certain degree. If you want ti avoid this, place the phone in a location it can have air from the air conditioner blowing on it.
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