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my device identity model no. is elf0100, my ram is 128 mb , and my rom is 256 mb.
can anyone help me out wether its an elfin or an elf ?
256mb ram?
You are using an elfin!
It should be an Elfin
jeremy89632 said:
256mb ram?
You are using an elfin!
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Do you mean ram or rom...? Common typo, the letters are like right next to each other... Hehe...
But yeah, I'd definitely agree, that's an Elfin.. I thought mine was when I ordered it, but (for Sharic's information) the standard Elf has 64MB RAM and 128MB ROM, the Elfin has 128MB and 256MB respectively.
yeah, definitely an elfin..before i bought my elf, i am eager to own an elfin..unfortunately, it was hard to find 2nd hand elfin in my country so i have to settle with elf..i like elfin so much, because of its 128 ram and 256 rom..my elf always ran out of storage and program memory since i like to install many programs and do multitasking..
(seems like i'm out of topic..haha..just to express my frustration of not getting an elfin)
ZaLiTH said:
Do you mean ram or rom...? Common typo, the letters are like right next to each other... Hehe...
But yeah, I'd definitely agree, that's an Elfin.. I thought mine was when I ordered it, but (for Sharic's information) the standard Elf has 64MB RAM and 128MB ROM, the Elfin has 128MB and 256MB respectively.
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Alright, My Bad
Cheers!
In cause of the fact, that my most favorite ROM cooker dutty has stopped the 576 RAM tweak for further german/non WWE ROM versions, I will have to look for an alternative.
Please post the name of the ROM with the 576 MB RAM tweak and german OS language, thread link and ROM version for an short overview for other german user; I'll start:
duttythroy: Duttys Leo V1.4 (higher german versions are only offering 448MB again! Only version >1.4 in WWE will support 576 MB RAM.)
anja31: |ROM|TEST|GERMAN only|21889 based on 2.02 xip
pkober: [rom][ger][01/02/10]EPS HD2 21890 576MB enabled [online]
RideTheTube: [ROM][29.01.10][HD2] RTT Shock ROM [XDA_UC][576MB/23518]RC3
For a 21xxx ROM with 576 MB enabled, check Anja´s Next Generation ROM
In her thread, she says "test ROM", but to be clear, that ROM is crazy fast and really stable. Worth giving it a try.
For a 24xxx ROM with 576 MB enabled, check RTT´s Shock ROM
For those who prefer the newer WinMo builds, this is a good choice.
Another 21xxx based ROM with 576 MB enabled is this one from pkoper.
Haven´t tried it yet, but sounds nice in the relevant thread, too.
I've added their ROMs in the first post. Its quite hard to make a decision which ROM will make the run, when you've just used the ROMs from the "big-five" here. You are satisfied with anja31?
My Lost in Asia 24001 has it.
Hi, Anja´s is really good, i use it already.
An here is another one:
[rom][ger][01/02/10]EPS HD2 21890 576MB enabled [online
bobsbbq said:
My Lost in Asia 24001 has it.
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OoHH, you made a german one - let me try it - where to download?
i will release an update today - some bug fixes.
Cupra TDI said:
I've added their ROMs in the first post. Its quite hard to make a decision which ROM will make the run, when you've just used the ROMs from the "big-five" here. You are satisfied with anja31?
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I am using Anja´s ROMs for HD2 since she started making them.
So far, no disappointment at all. Perfect choice.
From time to time, as a flashaholic, I try other ROMs, but I keep coming back to Anja´s ROMs.
What's the point in having 576MB RAM when you can't even fill 448MB?
576 MB are there, so I want to have them, too!
Cupra TDI said:
576 MB are there, so I want to have them, too!
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Don't you think Dutty had a reason to remove the hack? Maybe he discovered stability issues because of it. Do you really think a bit more RAM that you will never use anyway is worth potential stability problems?
I really don't get why everyone jumps on that hack, without thinking about consequences.
As I read he wants to continue the development with the hack in the WWE versions. And I think thats the most downloaded version.
I don't know his reasons for that step, but maybe he was stopping it for other languages just for too much work?! He was and still keeps always my most favorite ROM cooker. His v1.4 GER with the hack is running very well on my HD2.
freyberry said:
Don't you think Dutty had a reason to remove the hack? Maybe he discovered stability issues because of it. Do you really think a bit more RAM that you will never use anyway is worth potential stability problems?
I really don't get why everyone jumps on that hack, without thinking about consequences.
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sorry - look @ duttys free data memory and you know why he is gone back to 448 mb
anja31 said:
sorry - look @ duttys free data memory and you know why he is gone back to 448 mb
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What does this have to do with free data memory? Sorry if I'm missing something...
I tried the hack and while it did work, it was definitely the reason why I could not restore my SPB backups anymore. Now you can say, it's a new ROM, so it may happen that you can't restore a backup. But the reason definitely was that I enabled the RAM and who knows what other problems it causes?
If you could actually use the additional RAM, I'd agree to enable it. But with normal use (even when running three navigation programs and other stuff at the same time), it's impossible to fill the 448MB RAM, so I really don't see a point in enabling 576MB.
anja31 said:
sorry - look @ duttys free data memory and you know why he is gone back to 448 mb
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free data memory = Programmspeicher aka Program in WWE?
Total: 457.15
In use: 150.55
Free: 306.60
But that can't be the RAM, because the hardware informations are showing 576MB. How do you check the free RAM?
Cupra TDI said:
free data memory = Programmspeicher aka Program in WWE?
Total: 457.15
In use: 150.55
Free: 306.60
But that can't be the RAM, because the hardware informations are showing 576MB. How do you check the free RAM?
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That is the RAM. Some of it is taken by the system and not shown.
but data memory = Datenspeicher = ROM
Cupra TDI said:
free data memory = Programmspeicher aka Program in WWE?
Total: 457.15
In use: 150.55
Free: 306.60
But that can't be the RAM, because the hardware informations are showing 576MB. How do you check the free RAM?
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sorry - maybe my fault - i mean "Datenspeicher" not "Programmspeicher"
he lost to much of the Datenpeicher, but anyway Duttys rom is fantastic.
That's because of the HTC debug tools in the 2.02 OEMDrivers. I deleted them and only lost about 2MB of storage, which is not a big deal.
But I'm still not convinced why I should enable the RAM when it's pretty much impossible to use it.
Well its all good as long as HTC are convinced.
The wording "RAM hack" may be a bit misleading. The 2.02 test rom from htc has this "feature" included. So its not really a hack.
What does this have to do with free data memory? Sorry if I'm missing something...
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Ram and rom are on one chip. Kind of like back in WM 2003 times where you could allocate on the fly.
So making one larger will reduce the other.
Meaning that if you have a "large" rom you will not be left with much "Datenspeicher".
freyberry said:
Don't you think Dutty had a reason to remove the hack? Maybe he discovered stability issues because of it. Do you really think a bit more RAM that you will never use anyway is worth potential stability problems?
I really don't get why everyone jumps on that hack, without thinking about consequences.
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|FEB 03||WWE||Duttys Leo Sense 2.5 HG V.06|Base 2.02|576 RAM||5.2.23519.5.5||ONLINE||
Maybe...
Hi Guys,
Looking to buy a new HD2, just wondering that whether they still carry the hidden RAM? Has anyone brought one recently?
Yes, all HD2s have 576MB of RAM as long as you have the right ROM and radio.
Moandal said:
Yes, all HD2s have 576MB of RAM as long as you have the right ROM and radio.
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That's not correct.
The PRO THREE's (Prototype HD2's) have 320/340mb RAM.
LEO 1.5 (TMOUS) have 1024MB RAM.
xmoo said:
That's not correct.
The PRO THREE's (Prototype HD2's) have 320/340mb RAM.
LEO 1.5 (TMOUS) have 1024MB RAM.
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tmobile us have only 576 not 1024
hoss_n2 said:
tmobile us have only 576 not 1024
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Ooh sorry I ment ROM. My bad.
But pro three has 320
xmoo said:
Ooh sorry I ment ROM. My bad.
But pro three has 320
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but the eu version has the same ram as tmo us right or not
hoss_n2 said:
but the eu version has the same ram as tmo us right or not
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Yep, just not out of the box. You need the right combination of rom and radio to unlock the extra ram and bring it to 576mb from the default of 448mb if I'm not mistaken..
xmoo said:
Ooh sorry I ment ROM. My bad.
But pro three has 320
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Since the OP started "Looking to buy a new HD2...", exactly how are the original prototypes relevant to the thread?
Moandal said:
Since the OP started "Looking to buy a new HD2...", exactly how are the original prototypes relevant to the thread?
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He was answering this incorrect comment...
Moandal said:
Yes, all HD2s have 576MB of RAM as long as you have the right ROM and radio.
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which you can see if you click the little arrow next to the quoted person's name (your name) (it takes you to the original quote).
Anyone know why they disabled it?
Is there a rom out there that only enabled the 576mb, and nothing else?
johncmolyneux said:
He was answering this incorrect comment...
which you can see if you click the little arrow next to the quoted person's name (your name) (it takes you to the original quote).
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But it's absolutely correct because it's an answer to the OP, which clearly relates only to new HD2s. Maybe you missed that.
But only new US HD2 have 576MB RAM out the box, all other retail HD2s (not the pre-release) need to the right radio/ROM
So in a nutshell, all new retail HD2s have the RAM but only the US one is activated out the box
please help... on my phone it says total storage capacity 181.47... and total program memory 336.93... how's that... i bought the phone from orange romania... and this is after a hard reset... although in the about page it says... 448 RAM and 512 ROM...
anyone?
ccezar2004 said:
please help... on my phone it says total storage capacity 181.47... and total program memory 336.93... how's that... i bought the phone from orange romania... and this is after a hard reset... although in the about page it says... 448 RAM and 512 ROM...
anyone?
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512 rom - minus the space the rom and the radio take up, also minus thee space the rom uses when it installs after a flash.takes about 250-350 meg which leaves you around 200 meg storage space.
448 ram - minus 128 meg for graphics =320 meg program memory.
your figures are exactly what a stock hd2 should show.
bkar89 said:
Anyone know why they disabled it?
Is there a rom out there that only enabled the 576mb, and nothing else?
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bump on this
kom igen måste få det upplåst
come on need it to get unlocked
samsamuel said:
512 rom - minus the space the rom and the radio take up, also minus thee space the rom uses when it installs after a flash.takes about 250-350 meg which leaves you around 200 meg storage space.
448 ram - minus 128 meg for graphics =320 meg program memory.
your figures are exactly what a stock hd2 should show.
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thanks... it's a relief... i saw cooked roms with much more free memory and i thought it was something wrong with my hd2 due to the fact that was bought from an operator
bkar89 said:
Anyone know why they disabled it?
Is there a rom out there that only enabled the 576mb, and nothing else?
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use the original tmobile us ship rom it is stock and enabls it
hoss_n2 said:
use the original tmobile us ship rom it is stock and enabls it
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but only when using a 2.06 or higher radio that has .50. in the version and not .51.
Do NOT flash that rom from sd card.
This whole time I have been researching the HD2, I have always heard it having about 500+mb ram...now when I went and checked on the Tmobile site it says 1gb of ram...here (I was comparing it to the touch pro 2)...
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...426-a830-49bb-aa7c-d47156399047&manufacturer=
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Screen shots attached...first is a zoomed out view so you can see it all at once...the second is a zoomed in view of the top half, the third is the bottom half zoomed in...
I hope this is true ? but Idk why I dont really believe it yet??...any ideas?
the american version of the hd2 will have more RAM and ROM
These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.
kilrah said:
These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.
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Yea, that's definately true!
But people always say bigger is better
Big phone
Big delay
Big bug
Big error
Is it better? No it isn't!!
yeah even on the htc website it says it will have 1gb of ROM and 5_ _ mb of RAM.... hey I know you say 1gb of ram would be useless, but for the same price -why would you argue with that ? haha....but yeah can we say 'false advertisement' here?.... I am sure there is a complaint to be made, for those of us who already knew it was fake from the beginning it would not be a surprise when we get our hd2 and do not see 1gb of ram...but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....
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but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....
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Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is
kilrah said:
Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is
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This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."
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This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."
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loooooooool
hoss_n2 said:
loooooooool
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Current ( European ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-512 ROM
T-mobile ( USA ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-1024 ROM
Isn't it 574 ram on both versions?
yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount
Yep, but why do they loose stability with more ram?
Loose stability??? I see no difference between cooked rom (576MB RAM) and official 1.66 WWE (448MB RAM).
it probably looses stability in a case of when an application over ranges ram so if there is a block of ram reserved then it may be used for those instances ? I am not sure just trying to think why it would be that way....
Just open lots of apps to fill RAM and again ad again. Nothing happends. Where did U read about instability with 576MB unlocked?
that is not what I was talking about, (opening a bunch of apps)... that does not mean it will over range the ram...
you may be familiar with programming and in such if you say go out of bounds on an array -it will cause some sorts of errors.... This is the type of situation I mean when I said over ranging ram, except it may come in a different form, but when a program basically tries to access more ram than it is allowed or tries to access ram which is non existent then it would normally cause an error....
all in all it is just an example, and I was just trying to think logically of why they would not allow all of the RAM to be unlocked in stock ROMS ...
davidcampbell said:
yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount
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not on the US version, 576MB stock
chaoscentral said:
not on the US version, 576MB stock
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I concur, I am actually using one right now and in hardware specs it shows the 576mb RAM, 1024mb ROM, and of course the sick 1024mhz processor
as a result of the U.S. version having more ram and rom, its a little bigger..
I got an HTC PRO THREE, the Pre Release version of HTC HD2.
It only has 320MB of RAM, and that's the only difference with the official HD2. I wonder if anyone there who also happens to have this device and unlocked the RAM to 576MB... i have tried the various/required Radios and various cooked and official ROMS and still has 320MB.
Does that mean hardware-wise, the only RAM i got is 320MB?
But i have read somewhere here, that on a certain rom, the HTC PRO THREE displays 340MB which makes a 20MB difference with the pre-released ROM, which seems to me that this HTC PRO THREE, has more than 320MB, since it displays 340MB on a non- pre release ROM.
Thanks in advance for the help.
could you provide a picture of the device?
Martinhdk said:
could you provide a picture of the device?
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Its exactly the same as the HD2 IIRC, just has touch pro 3 on the back casing in yellow.
da_mayhem said:
I got an HTC PRO THREE, the Pre Release version of HTC HD2.
It only has 320MB of RAM, and that's the only difference with the official HD2. I wonder if anyone there who also happens to have this device and unlocked the RAM to 576MB... i have tried the various/required Radios and various cooked and official ROMS and still has 320MB.
Does that mean hardware-wise, the only RAM i got is 320MB?
But i have read somewhere here, that on a certain rom, the HTC PRO THREE displays 340MB which makes a 20MB difference with the pre-released ROM, which seems to me that this HTC PRO THREE, has more than 320MB, since it displays 340MB on a non- pre release ROM.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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this is because it only has 320 mb of ram ,sorry for you but this is the true
hoss_n2 said:
this is because it only has 320 mb of ram ,sorry for you but this is the true
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So there is no chance hacking or unlocking the hidden ram if there's any?
The thing is, someone said that the pre release device was flashed by a certain rom, and was able to display 340mb ram on it, so meaning, if its true, there is more than 320mb of rams on this pre release version of HD2.
I just hope someone will clear this all to me. Thanks for the participation guys!
da_mayhem said:
So there is no chance hacking or unlocking the hidden ram if there's any?
The thing is, someone said that the pre release device was flashed by a certain rom, and was able to display 340mb ram on it, so meaning, if its true, there is more than 320mb of rams on this pre release version of HD2.
I just hope someone will clear this all to me. Thanks for the participation guys!
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It might be what you said. The T8585 has just one hardware version providing a 576 Mb memory at all. So this fact sounds weird as well as the ROM should have less memory allocation, make sure either you didn't get a damaged device or somebody badly flashed ROM on it or the flash spoiled some hardware parts........
Anyway, try flashing a HSPL (the most updated) on it, get the ROM you like the most from the Web and see how it goes......... Bless you
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It might be what you said. The T8585 has just one hardware version providing a 576 Mb memory at all. So this fact sounds weird as well as the ROM should have less memory allocation, make sure either you didn't get a damaged device or somebody badly flashed ROM on it or the flash spoiled some hardware parts........
Anyway, try flashing a HSPL (the most updated) on it, get the ROM you like the most from the Web and see how it goes......... Bless you
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The HTC PRO THREE has been released with a 320MB RAM and i doubt also if this is defective, as i've seen few users too of this 320MB HD2 version.
Thanks for the tip bro, i did installed HSPL2 and the current Artemis ROM, i didn't even check if that HSPL2 was the latest..i'll try to look at it later. Thanks again!
Help pls...