Several programs including MemMaid and SKTools have a feature which lets you move certain DLL's to SD .....although this can save a lot of memory out of RAM, is it really a good idea to do ??
I have been using this trick for a while... and I haven't face any problems so far...
I used Tweaks2k2 for this...
Which version of Tweaks do you have ?
I have v 3.4.0.0
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My help files are taking up quita lot of RAM in my Windows folder - would they still work if placed on SD card, similar to how Memaid moves DLL's ??
I moved all help files to SD card and placed a shortcut of the help folder where it was and it works great.
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but why this work? with this solution i gain only 1,2 KB!!!!!!
I tried that... But I can't move all help files in \Windows dir. ( hidden files)
it says.. ROM is protected ( or something like that )
I got around 250 KB free .... not bad I guess...
but if I can remove all help files I'll get around 1 MB
do u have any idea :?:
anybody knows how to delete these read only help files!??
if they're ROM files then they're not taking any room that you can gain back unless you cook your own ROM without them.
V
wouldn´t I get more storage from the ROM?
not from the ROM - you can't shrink the rom except by making a new rom, which AFAIK isn't possible yet on Magician. Best bet for space is to use cabinst to install all programs to Storage/Storage Card, and use MemMaid etc to move many dlls to Storage, and use BigRom hack for extra space. That'll make you much more than a few k from the HTML files.
V
Already got bigstorage. MenMaid is worth a look. thx!
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http://www.pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16903
Guys,
I've just been doing some optimisations on my XDA when I came across the following. When I have no SD card plugged in I have 24.53MB of RAM free. When I plug my 1GB SD card in I have 16.21MB Free. If I install the ROM unlocker I go down to 7.83MB. This is a lot of RAM just to access the external storage cards. (Yes the Extended ROM is treated like a storage card) What RAM usage is everyone else seeing for memory card mounting?
It would be great if some of the gurus could look at this and give their opinions.
Regards,
Tim
WizP said:
Guys,
I've just been doing some optimisations on my XDA when I came across the following. When I have no SD card plugged in I have 24.53MB of RAM free. When I plug my 1GB SD card in I have 16.21MB Free. If I install the ROM unlocker I go down to 7.83MB. This is a lot of RAM just to access the external storage cards. (Yes the Extended ROM is treated like a storage card) What RAM usage is everyone else seeing for memory card mounting?
It would be great if some of the gurus could look at this and give their opinions.
Regards,
Tim
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Be interesting to see others results, but (bearing in mind i havent soft reset)
Using a 2GB SD card, my current program memory available is 20.25MB, taking it out for about one minute my memory went to 20.30MB.
Putting it back in memory went down to 20.19MB then back to 20.25MB.
Matt
Have you been messing about in the registry to try and speed up your phone? If so that's where all your memory is disappearing to. When I plug in my SD card the memory drops by about 500k, not 8 MB.
Thanks for the quick feedback. So far the only hacks I've used are the Highresources cab file and the ones found in Tweaks2K2. I may need to do a hard reset to verify the results on a clean install and take it from there.
BTW I'm using the latest imate ROM 1.30.76 WWE on the XDA Exec.
4gb transcend SD in --> 19,33mb ram
4gb transcend SD out --> 21,64mb ram
512 SanDisk miniSD in --> 19,52mb ram
(with the 4096kb cache enabled)
It's just 0.4 MB drop for my 2GB Sd Card.
WizP said:
Thanks for the quick feedback. So far the only hacks I've used are the Highresources cab file and the ones found in Tweaks2K2. I may need to do a hard reset to verify the results on a clean install and take it from there.
BTW I'm using the latest imate ROM 1.30.76 WWE on the XDA Exec.
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These tweaks will probably have enabled the storage manager\FATFS\cachesize and set it to 4096 ie 4MB.
They may have also activated the fsreplxfilt filter (In the same storage manager registry branch) also setting the ReplStoreCacheSize to 4096.
I used to have them active and my program memory starting at 20MB would frequently go down to 12mb - now i have about 26MB and after alot of use stays around 17-20MB.
Matt
Here's a link to the Windows Mobile Team Blog which explains where all the memory goes when you fiddle with the registry (either manually or through tweaking programs)
hI,
IS THERE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO MOVE MBs FROM PROGRAMS TO STORAGE?
what do u mean? do you want to move your installed applications in the phone to memory card? nope! it will corrupt i think, you have to uninstall it then re install it. however, some programs which are related to the system (like helmi dialer) will be automatically installed to phone memory....
and if you mean mem as the old 2003 slider for deviding mem between app and storage then no
that vent away when ms made wm5
maybe progs like DOC or flashdisk can merge extended rom with storage if you need more storage
I mean the possibility, having 60 mb for programs and only 3 mb ffor storage, to move for example 10 mb from the first too the last: the situation will become: programs 50mb storage 13 mb.
from where you get 3 mb of storage and aditional 60 mb for programs, in blueangel we have 60 mb storage and 128 mb ram (so called program memory), or maybe you do not have Blueangel device
Please tell us your device and rom version, and you will get advice
anyway storage is flash and as such have a limited nr of write it can take before it dies
if it was used as application ram it would die very! fast
also why is it ppl want so much application ram?
programs take as much ram as they require the fact that there is plenty left dont make them faster at all
free app ram is just empty doing nothing
also BA has 128 MB ram more than most pocketpc's on the market why you need more ?
the problems is i have installed some applications that must be installed on the device; after these operations i stay with the following indications:
storage 3.68 mb (remaining);
programs 60 mb (remaining).
I'll ry 2 applications i found that could zip and unzip automatically all the files (and applications) resident on the device.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I SOLVED THE PROBLEM
success!!!!
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
Swelldisk isn't the best option AFAIK. Try to find in the forum, that was discussed, and few people lost their data from the SD.
laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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Sounds interesting. Can you explain how you did it.
THEY HAVE MANY TOOLS BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS IN POCKET MECHANICH AND IS CALLED "STORAGE"; IN FEW WORDS YOU CAN CHOOSE A FOLDER/APPLICATION ON THE MAIN STORAGE AND DECIDE TO MOVE TO A SD CARD.
any reference to this original forlder (also registry keys) change their behaviour/pointing action to the new "location"
laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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hello
I have the same prob
I have downloaded the progs you used
I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...
Please could you tell me the procedures you followed to do that ?
Cheers
"I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...", you can't. You can only reduce usage by careful planning...Install programs to storage card, configure IE cache and temp files to storage card..... Swelldisk only work on external storage.
move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
I found a safe way to achieve the above:
1. Create a folder Sotage Card\ Windows
2. Include this folder name in "path"
3. Freely move any DLLs into this folder from \Windows to Storage Card\Windows
I used SKTools for achieving this. I am not sure which DLLs may be required in original \Windows folder during reflashing ROM, though I had absolutely no problem in reflashing with all DLLs moved, but better to move back system related DLLs back to original path before reflashing.
laura_kim said:
move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
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Cache will be recreated if you move the contents to another location, so you dont achieve any thing, rather waste space on storage card. If you really want to do this, change the registry settings too.
Moving DLLs to another location without declaring location name in "path" is incorrect way.
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
Nishann said:
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
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Use SKTools free demo version
Hello,
I have Qtek S200, I have 64 MB RAM and 128 MB ROM and 2 GB storage card.
It gives me 20MB free RAM. I want to know how can I transfer some MB's from my ROM size to RAM memory or use some space from my memory card to put in RAM place.
I know it was possible in Windows Mobile 2003 SE but I am on Windows Mobile 6.0
Please help me, or just tell me if there is a way I can use ROM or Storage card as RAM? it will help me a lot in running some really good applications.
Thanks a lot, badly waiting for answer!
Thanks,
FAISAL!
i have browsed into Prophet Forums as much as i can but i havent stumbled upon a certain topic concerning your proposal. what i would suggest is that there are some good programs out there that you can install in your device that can help you manage your RAM efficiently.
Since prophet isnt GIFTED with such huge RAM memory space i would recommend you the following programs to install in your device ( some of them might already be incorporated in your ROM if your using the ROMS provided by experts here in this Forum)
1. Hibernate (www.oxios.com)
2. ClearTemp by Vicott Wong
3. CleanRAM by HTCAddicts
i will attach number 2 and 3 files as CAB and its up to you how will you set it up on your device. maybe a regular schedule for these apps to run on your device..
good luck and hope this programs help since Prophet Devices arent gifted with so much RAMS like other HTC devices do..
Cheers,
I bought the Telstra version of HTC HD2 and flashed the ROM to version 1.66 with Arabic support. What I have started noticing is that after installing several programs, my storage memory started running very low (now down to anywhere between 3-6MB while my free program memory is >160MB) even though I have setup my Windows Marketplace to install programs on the storage card, temp and cache files are as well as Email attachments are stored on the SD card and actually more than 80% of my program are installed on the SD card but I believe even when you tell a program to install on the SD card, portion of it has to install in the main memory.
My question is what to do about this situation (BTW, I have tried apps that clear the RAM and they work temporarily and, obviously, as I use my device the memory goes down and then I have to re-run that program to clear the RAM again). Is there a way to change the memory allocation between storage and program RAM like we used to do in Windows CE?
Please advise?
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
TheSkilled1 said:
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
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Thanks a lot TheSkilled for this great advice. This program works great.
work through this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
saved my usefulness of my HD2