Hello,
I have Qtek S200, I have 64 MB RAM and 128 MB ROM and 2 GB storage card.
It gives me 20MB free RAM. I want to know how can I transfer some MB's from my ROM size to RAM memory or use some space from my memory card to put in RAM place.
I know it was possible in Windows Mobile 2003 SE but I am on Windows Mobile 6.0
Please help me, or just tell me if there is a way I can use ROM or Storage card as RAM? it will help me a lot in running some really good applications.
Thanks a lot, badly waiting for answer!
Thanks,
FAISAL!
i have browsed into Prophet Forums as much as i can but i havent stumbled upon a certain topic concerning your proposal. what i would suggest is that there are some good programs out there that you can install in your device that can help you manage your RAM efficiently.
Since prophet isnt GIFTED with such huge RAM memory space i would recommend you the following programs to install in your device ( some of them might already be incorporated in your ROM if your using the ROMS provided by experts here in this Forum)
1. Hibernate (www.oxios.com)
2. ClearTemp by Vicott Wong
3. CleanRAM by HTCAddicts
i will attach number 2 and 3 files as CAB and its up to you how will you set it up on your device. maybe a regular schedule for these apps to run on your device..
good luck and hope this programs help since Prophet Devices arent gifted with so much RAMS like other HTC devices do..
Cheers,
Related
I have searched around but can't seem to find the exact answer to this question. I apologize if it has been covered and I missed it.
When I use a ROMKitchen, yours or Yorch's, there are optional software I can choose to add. When I do so it gives me a memory usage indicator. For example, with the 4_00_05 I currently have, Yorch asys I have 3.9 megs of space to put software in. I understand that there is 15 for Rom and 15 for RAM, RAM being what I get to use as a user.
I install almost every software program onto a storage card. The only device memory I use is the stuff various software put onto the device by default.
My question is, If I don't put any extra software, will I gain any extra space on the device? either for running program space or anything else?
Or am I just wasting the 3.9 megs I'm alotted.
Thanks,
Matt
Hi ...
There is difference between the flash ROM and RAM.
The flash ROM is usually of a fixed size of 32 MB (for XDA I at least), it's used to store the system and any ROM application code like those you select to add while cooking the ROM.
When the system starts, CE will use part of the RAM to run in addition to any other application you will run by your self. Hence, the RAM is managed by CE to be allocated for either "running" CE and applications, and the rest is for storing the DATA like e-mails, cashe files, contacts, ...etc. The RAM size can vary from 32 MB up to 128 MB
When you install non-ROM application, if you decide to install it to the device memory it will be installed to the RAM in the programs portion which will decrease the available amount of memory for either "running" applications or stored data. If it's installed on SD card, it will save the space of the code but will still run in the RAM.
So, the answer to your question is YES, you should make the max use of the available space in ROM.
Load up as many progs as possible into the rom, it saves your program/storage ram and the programs in rom cannot be lost by hard reset, if you dont use the available space in rom then it is a waste of space.
Was just wondering, but does the 'permanent save' feature require me leave some space for it on the ROM? or is that saved yet somewhere else?
Man! This is GREAT!
I hope I am not mistaken, but, if I COOK a ROM with ALL my favorite programs, I save on space (than when I install it separately), since extra space on ROM is wasted anyways?
I didnt know that!
drean said:
Was just wondering, but does the 'permanent save' feature require me leave some space for it on the ROM? or is that saved yet somewhere else?
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This uses a seperate area of flash storage as far as I know.
still no easy way to build our rom without unix & a lot of retuals needed to create it! right? i understand there is a tool for XDA2 but not XDA1 which could be great
Hey all!
I am currently running on 1.50i.96 and am looking at upgrading to 1.60a. I dont seem to need much of on device storage space really, so i guess i'd atleast have the persistent memory benefit from 1.60a (correct me if am wrong here!)
I just unlocked my extended rom. I have a bunch of files sitting in it. The question is, can i back these files up on my computer, and get rid of it to free up space? Would that cause any problems during a hard reset or something?
The next question, how do i install the RAMDisk? Where can i find the installer for the same? Are there any procedures i'd need to follow to set my RAM disk size?
Thanks so very much!
San
i've a question fot you :
Have you read the posts about wm2005 rom in this forum ?
the 1.60 rom have 180 Mb of ram (volatile) and 14.5 Mb of Storage (persistant)
The Extended rom is NOT used by wm2005 , you can totally erase the extended rom and install all you want ....
You can install ramdisk on 1.60 rom but it's non-persistant .
persistant = : if you remove battery , content of persistant memory stay ....
non-persistant = : if you remove battery , content of non-persistant memory don't stay !!
thanks for your inputs TofClock.
I am aware of the fact that the ram disk is not persistent...the word "ram"disk is clear enough!
But i need the ram disk "just in case"...i thought it would make better sense to start using 1.60a only when i'm sure i can get more space in case i need it sometime later...for now 32 megs seems good enough though...
TofClock, by any chance could you mail me the ramdisk cab file ?? Heres my mail address...
[email protected]
Thanks again!
San
hmm...
well 1.60a has:
128MB Program memory
14.5MB Storage memory as system root
16MB ExtendedROM usable as storage
You cannot install RAMDisk on this version of ROM.
Well you can, but it will cause conflicts in the OS.
If you need more storage space, get yourself 1.50i.xx, where xx stands for amount of Program memory.
buzz
Thanks for your reply Buzz!
when I use 1.60a, I'd totally have 16MB+16MB of persistent storage right?
the question is, where do all the common files (DLLs etc.), contacts, messages etc. get installed/saved onto? One of the 16meg partitions right? My main worry is that all these common files, contacts etc. might exceed the 16meg partition that the OS is using...correct or would it??
I'd want persistent storage mainly, and as long as I can install a couple hundred megs of apps onto my storage card, I'm just fine!
thanks again big time
San
What does ROM and RAM means related to the HTC TyTn ?
HTC TyTn ROM = 128 MB
HTC TyTn RAM = 64 MB
When you install application to the "Storage Memory", where will it be installed ? in the RAM ?
What are installed in the ROM ?
Where the default application from the provider (e.g. T-Mobile) are installed ?
Thanks!
gogol said:
What does ROM and RAM means related to the HTC TyTn ?
HTC TyTn ROM = 128 MB
HTC TyTn RAM = 64 MB
When you install application to the "Storage Memory", where will it be installed ? in the RAM ?
What are installed in the ROM ?
Where the default application from the provider (e.g. T-Mobile) are installed ?
Thanks!
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The 128 MB of Flash ROM is broken into two parts:
- 64 MB for "Storage" (think hard disk space)
- 64 MB for "Program" execution (also called "RAM")
Programs reside in storage until they are activated (at which point they are also loaded into RAM). The amount of RAM you have available is what's left after loading the OS.
The carrier apps are also stored in ROM/RAM.
RAM is used to run applications. Its content gets lost on power off.
ROM (Flash RAM indeed) is used to store firmware, to install user applications and to keep data. Its content is kept even without power. "Extended ROM" is also a part of 128MB "ROM".
As I understand, HTC TyTN has NAND flash, and so no XIP and PagePool consumes a lot of RAM, though making things to run faster.
A good reading for beginners is here and here.
I don't like the tendency to call flash memory that is writeable as "ROM" (=Read-Only Memory). IMHO it provides a lot of confusions.
Very good explanation Lurker0, and both articles are worth reading for anyone!
I have insufficient memory for when someone calls me my ringtone wont ring properly due to insufficient memory..
i have storage - 20.67mb free and program - 2.08 mb free
how do i free up program memory so everyone could run properly..
i installed all files to storage so it wouldnt be stored on phone but i think it still installs onto the phone itself..
is there any program to fix the memory issue? or to free up a lot more to make everything run prime.
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No, you will have to upgrade your rom. Search for ttrans001 rom called slimline. It will give you all the storage and program memory space that you need. Please make sure you backup your apps. Please read the directions several times before flashing because you can really screw up your phone if you don't. Be very careful and read, read, read before you flash your rom. It is very simple to do if you read and follow the directions.
1. Find ivanjj post on how to flash a rom and download the uspl file
2. Find ttrans001 slimline rom and download the file
3. Follow all the directions completely
2mb program memory? wow, thats dangerously low. Which ROM are you using? Try reducing the page pool to 4mb or 6mb(if you are still on stock ROM). This'll free up lots of program memory for you.
explanation: the windows mobile device uses the windows media player's DLLs to decode the ringtones which are in MP3/WMA/MP4 format. This requires some free program memory. Unfortunately, on a device like atlas/herald, the RAM is just 64mb and not 128MB like newer WM devices. So, one needs to be very careful regarding the software which swallow a lot of RAM
Close a few programs.
This will give you more memory.
Change your pagepool.
This will give you a lot more memory.
Change your ROM to a cleaner ROM like itje's Black series, Ttran's Slimline series or any of my ROM since they're all clean.
This will give you the most memory. My phone barely ever goes below 20mb free WHILE running lots of programs.
I bought the Telstra version of HTC HD2 and flashed the ROM to version 1.66 with Arabic support. What I have started noticing is that after installing several programs, my storage memory started running very low (now down to anywhere between 3-6MB while my free program memory is >160MB) even though I have setup my Windows Marketplace to install programs on the storage card, temp and cache files are as well as Email attachments are stored on the SD card and actually more than 80% of my program are installed on the SD card but I believe even when you tell a program to install on the SD card, portion of it has to install in the main memory.
My question is what to do about this situation (BTW, I have tried apps that clear the RAM and they work temporarily and, obviously, as I use my device the memory goes down and then I have to re-run that program to clear the RAM again). Is there a way to change the memory allocation between storage and program RAM like we used to do in Windows CE?
Please advise?
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
TheSkilled1 said:
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
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Thanks a lot TheSkilled for this great advice. This program works great.
work through this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
saved my usefulness of my HD2