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Here's the deal, I have a T-Mobile prepaid sim and I've already checked the (dutch) t-mobile website. It states that GPRS should work fine with a prepaid card ad you do not need to buy another card. However, no matter what I do, I can't request the GPRS settings or get what i do get working fine..
Help would be greatly appreciated
tons of people ask the same questions in here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewforum.php?f=11
as far as i know it all comes down to knowing the access point of ones phonecompany and possibly a signon name and pass (it's rare that it's used though)
if you dont see anybody asking the same question as you,
just try the next page or do a search excluded to that forum
containing something like "tmobile grps"
thnx for the reply, but I guess you didn't figure that I'm one of those people that can handle a search button.. Alas I didn't find anything that could be of any help though...
I did in the mean time develop a second problem, the XDA2 now reads the card a lot slower than before..
Is there a possibility that the card is malfunctioning? It's not the XDA, I've checked it with a Orange sim-card and it worked fine...
odd how is it slow ?
the sim contacts ?
login ?
personaly when i had to get grps working i phones my cellphone company and they said it would be on within 45mins (that it really took 3 days is beside the question )
then i went into connections and made a connection which i gave the name grps (but you can call it what ever you like)
then i choose cellphone (gprs) as connection
then i typed in the access point which i my case were just "internet"
then i opened IE then it pop'd up with a login name and password then i dident type anything and press'd ok then i were online
this is the default manual way of doing it
of cause i cant say if some phone companys do it different and
i know nothing of tmobil they are not even present as a company in this country, so sorry if i cant be of more help when it comes to the strange ways of tmobile
It takes a really lopng time with my sim to get a connection to the network, the coverage is good (checked it with my phone and another pda with t-mobile as well) and basically untill that time i can't load the sim-manager or anything.. nothing too bad, I just have to wait 5 minutes before the sim is loaded
cant you just destroy the sim and call for another and hopefully newer type which dont give issues ?
Well, for some weird reason my sim seems to be working fine again, still leaves the issue of trying to get GPRS working with pre-paid tho...
Does anyone know how to get the MSISDN of a Wallaby or Himalaya device?
I think it depends on the network you are connected to. On my phone, it is on top in my main phone setting page where you can select a ringtone.
I should have said that I want to be able to get it programatically.
I have 2 devices at the moment an M1000 on Orange and an XDAII on O2 UK.
I'm starting to get close to it, but haven't got a solution yet. It's mainly this code. (Look for "Accessing SIM Information")
The trick is to change the address from 6f46 (Service Provider Name) to 6f40 (MSISDN). A list of possible addresses is available here: http://umtslink.at/cgi-bin/reframer.cgi?../GSM/simkarte_elementardateien.htm
(It's german but I think you'll get it anyway)
The problem that I still have is to access the read data correctly, so that I actually get this number.
Let me know if you found out some more. I'll keep you informed, too.
I'll admit, I take a lot of good info from these boards and am usually far too busy to post. But this time I feel I have something great to share.
I bought a TyTN the other day...got here Wednesday. I was sick so I didn't start to play much with it until today.
Let me just set the tone here: I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET AROUND MY CORPORATE IT DEPARTMENT FOR YEARS. FIRST I GOT MY SPRINT TREO TO GET BLACKBERRY EMAILS, BUT NOT TRUE PUSH...THEN I GAVE UP FOR A WHILE AND USED A SPRINT 7250...but BB's are A WASTE, LESS FUNCTIONAL, and just a POOR CHOICE for today's mobile professional.
Now I have found today: The HTC TyTN can VERY EASILY be made into a corporate BES-connected Blackberry if you so desire, and conencted to YOUR CURRENT corporate BES account, without their intervention! I have done this with my Sprint 7250 BB account, and done it back and forth all day from T-mo to Cingular (Cingular wins out because of 3G of course...gotta have good slingbox when I can!)
All you need is a 'blackberry enabled SIM card' (really, just add the unlimited BES ENABLED (NOT THE "PERSONAL") blackberry plan to T-mo or Cingular) and a corporate BES account (that you haven't been able to touch for years, LOCKING you to a USELESS paperweight of a dumb-phone!) I know some others were lucky enough to have a Cingular SIM card in their corporate BB already and this wasn't a big deal. But I was not and I see many other are having trouble starting out with with non-Cingular blackberry devices. So check out how I ended up getting my way, finally after 4 years!
0) Insert (or go buy) a personal, non-blackberry-enabled Cingular (3G) SIM card. You should be able to surf for UMTS/HSDPA data and all that...
1) Install BBConnectr_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16 on the HTC TyTN.
2) Install Activesync2.1.1.9 for mobile on the desktop.
3) Connect the HTC to the computer via USB, then open PC's Activesync 2.1.1.9. You will be asked if you want to change your PIN -- say YES! (you can always go back. Remember, it DOES NOT MATTER what service your BB is CURRENTLY through...we are going to make it through Cingular for you here in a second!)
4) Call Cingular and have them add the unlimited $49.95 blackberry plan, assumedly on top of your unlimited data plan. While I was willing to pay $145 a month to have everything in one device, just to spite my corporate IT department, here's the catch: They will come back and say you can't have both! Take the Unlimited blackberry plan (which will allow the PocketPC BB Connect software you installed to get through Cingular's network to "blackberry.net" So Instead of $40 for unlimited data, $10 more is getting my (and i have tested it) 3G data and blackberry.net access!
From there, you should be good like me.
I'm still figuring out the nuances, like how to minimize down-time after web surfing for BB connect to get back 'connected' again. I suspect in an all-3G area (in which i am NOT), this may not be an issue.
I have placed the updated, verified as working (on both T-mo and Cingular) versions of Activesync2.1.1.9 and BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16 in the "upload" directory of the web site. (as well as the 2.1 manual) That is /Hermes/Tools_and_Programs. Hopefully it gets moved over soon.
Keep on rocking everyone -- we are forging new capabilities together that make our lives easier, more fun, and more convenient!
Love and bruises,
Greg
It's your IT group that's at fault btw... I'm the technology guy for our IT group and we're getting rid of the BES and switching to direct push instead. Why? Tell your IT dept this: a BES places a 50% higher IO load on your Exchange server :shock:. This is because it must scan all blackberry enabled mailboxes every second or so looking for changes!
Now that devices like the Q have the MSFP, our execs have a nice alternative to their 8700s.
I've also installed LCS 2K5 with an Access Proxy and we are now all moving to Mobile Communicator for IM. This is a great little program that also gateways to AIM and Yahoo.
I believe IT should empower their users with technology, not be a bunch of Nazis.....
Files (safe) moved here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/BlackBerry_Connect/
Could you please point out what is the difference between your uploads and the file here?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/Hermes_Blackberry_Connect_Client.zip
Thanks!
Bb Connect
Just a quick one on this has anyone tried this on a XDA Exec on orange??
BAH ! ! !
Tytn has more functions, but isn't nearly as good of a phone - especially for someone who spends a lot of time driving
mightyeric said:
BAH ! ! !
Tytn has more functions, but isn't nearly as good of a phone - especially for someone who spends a lot of time driving
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Mate .. you need a bluetooth headset on your TyTN!!! :idea: And you should not drive anyways while talking on your phone :wink:
touche'
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Sorry .. couldn't resist myself. :lol:
even though this doesnt belong in this forum i figured you guys would know. do cingular blackberrys (the 8700) work on the new 3g network? and can u install AIM (a version that does not use text messages)?
Just tested TyTN with BIS and BES solutions, all works fine!!!
Messages are coming through UMTS channel where UMTS signal is available!
When you get an email via BES, can you read the attachments though?
does it also wirelessly sync your calendar and contacts with BES?
I seem to have it all working but when I restart the tytn, the blackberry service doesn't connect. The config program says 'no connection' (although it was fine right after I installed) Has anyone else seen this and got round it?
Quick config question on BBConnect...
For all those that have this successfully working on a TyTN - did you have to tweak any connection settings on the PPC ?
I've installed BBConnect (2.1.2.16) onto the PPC and BBDesktop (2.1.1.18) onto the PC. Used Activesync and got all my calendar entries over. Now when I come to have the BBC connect wirelessly, it fails to connect and eventually goes into 'Suspended by User' state.
I played around and defined a connection called 'Blackberry' with all the settings 'blackberry.net, rim, password etc..) and can now actually get it to Connect successfully...
The issue now is that no email flows.... in fact nothing flows at all and I can't send a message as it indicates it's a 'malformed message'.
Any ideas ?
I've had Cingular confirm that my data account is set up for 'BlackBerry Connect Unlimited'...
I never had a blackberry before so I'm into new territory here...
Any advice on how to get this working ?
Cheers
Dave
Does anybody knows which is the correct cingular blackberry plan for USA??????
Since some of you appear to have gotten Blackberry Connect working with Cingular on a mobile device I'm hoping you can give me some useful information. I have the service in place from Cingular, and have the understanding that with Blackberry Connect from Cingular I need no other data plan from them. It will cover all of my other data services. This part seems to be working fine. What's not working is the Blackberry Connect software itself. It always gives me "Blocked - Radio In Use". I am wondering if it is because I have a connection set up for "MY ISP" based on Cingulars default installation. If it's supposed to be using Blackberry Connect for data, should I be deleting the MY ISP configuration? Could that be what's keeping the radio in use? I would assume the only thing using the radio should be the Blackberry Connect service since that's the only plan I have.
Help?
Thanks
I get a message that the program cannot determine the type of network and to ensure the radio is on when I try to run Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC on my unlocked HP hw6945. It installed fine from the hosted exe file.
My theory is that the problem is the program is looking for the phone's frequency/band settings in WM5. The HP hides these as it features an automatic band/frequency transition radio. Does anyone know how to unhide WM5's menu and settings for the phone band/frequency?
BTW I have a new 64k Cingular smartcard sim with Blackberry Connect service (verified working with my Blackberry 7100t unlocked).
Hi all !
Was anybody able to run BlackBerry Connect on Cingular 1.31 ROM ?
It was run without any problems for me on 1.34, but does not work on 1.31.
Anybody else with the same problem ?
Regards,
baudy2
I followed HTC TyTN - Replace your blackberry instructions and software installs fine on Cingular 8525. I received system book from BES, but after the 8525 connects, a few minutes latter the Blackberry goes to "Suspended by user" and email is never received. Does anything else need to be setup, ie a different connection in the network connections on the device?
Thanks
saldous said:
When you get an email via BES, can you read the attachments though?
does it also wirelessly sync your calendar and contacts with BES?
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The Calendar and Contacts works fine!! You need to find the contacts....its the same of BBconnect for Nokia.
But you cant view all the attachments, only excel, word.....
Not read .jpg .mp3 and more.
HP6945 update
I happened to go overseas last week and while there and roaming on O2 I was able to get past the second screen and get the BB Connect to start. However, it would not generate the PIN (status: "pending"). Hoping that once past that obstacle once back on Cingular US I could get further, but no joy.
Right now I'm trying the Xpress Mail product which pushes and syncs calendar and email via a redirector; it seems to be finicky though.
Has anyone found the trick to enabling the Network Selection tab on a Cingular 8525 ROM 1.34?
TIA,
Richard
See the following thread for reg setting needed to show the network band tab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283797
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See the following thread for reg setting needed to show the network band tab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283797
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Thanks eagle1, I wasn't specific enough - I'm looking for something that will show me that e.g. Cingular and T-mobile Networks are present and ask which I want to register on. The UMTS/GSM Band Selection Tab is working great now that I made the registry change noted, but on my Networks tab I only see "Current network: Cingular" listed and a "Find Network" button which only re-registers me on Cingular. I thought other carrier ROMs allowed seeing/selecting from a list of available networks....
Richard
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Thanks eagle1, I wasn't specific enough - I'm looking for something that will show me that e.g. Cingular and T-mobile Networks are present and ask which I want to register on. The UMTS/GSM Band Selection Tab is working great now that I made the registry change noted, but on my Networks tab I only see "Current network: Cingular" listed and a "Find Network" button which only re-registers me on Cingular. I thought other carrier ROMs allowed seeing/selecting from a list of available networks....
Richard
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i've tried the hack already, it'll show u the 2 cingular selections after you click on "find network" but it will not let u register to the 2nd selection, only the 1st one! so my question is, can someone figure how to hack that problem?
princeasi said:
i've tried the hack already, it'll show u the 2 cingular selections after you click on "find network" but it will not let u register to the 2nd selection, only the 1st one! so my question is, can someone figure how to hack that problem?
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Which hack? The one Eagle1 linked to is the \HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\ShowUMTSBandPage setting, right? I have that on my production 8525 running 1.34 and it changes nothing for me on the Network tab, it gives me a new tab Band Selection.
What registry change are you talking about? Sounds like you've gotten it to show the networks, but still have the SIM naming override going on... in theory that's the ONSDisplayRule setting, but I've not been successful with that one either. (My ONSDisplayRule is set to "4" which value I've not found documented anywhere!)
Richard
rsolomon said:
Which hack? The one Eagle1 linked to is the \HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\ShowUMTSBandPage setting, right? I have that on my production 8525 running 1.34 and it changes nothing for me on the Network tab, it gives me a new tab Band Selection.
What registry change are you talking about? Sounds like you've gotten it to show the networks, but still have the SIM naming override going on... in theory that's the ONSDisplayRule setting, but I've not been successful with that one either. (My ONSDisplayRule is set to "4" which value I've not found documented anywhere!)
Richard
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I did the same hack for the 8125 on the 8525, and i noticed that there was a line missing in the registry of the 8525, but was there in the 8125, so i guess cingular remove this line to keep users from registering with the 2nd selection. do a search on here for "enable manual network selection 8125" and select HTC 8125...... next select the 2nd page, and look there!
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I did the same hack for the 8125 on the 8525, and i noticed that there was a line missing in the registry of the 8525, but was there in the 8125, so i guess cingular remove this line to keep users from registering with the 2nd selection. do a search on here for "enable manual network selection 8125" and select HTC 8125...... next select the 2nd page, and look there!
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Are you talking about
HKLM\Security\Phone\ManualDisable=0
and
HKLM\Security\Phone\PreferredDisable=0
???? (No offense, but why not just say so??)
Setting ManualDisable to 0 gives me the desired Network Selection stuff but won't let me register on EITHER Cingular or T-mobile. I'd expect it not to work on T-mo, but am surprised about the Cingular side....
Folks in the thread you referenced: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=266794 say these settings won't stick across a soft boot...that'd be inconvenient to say the least. Yep, I just confirmed that the setting is reset on soft boot....
It would seem like there should be some way to stop WM5 from updating its settings based on the SIM card, but maybe not. At least this hack will let me temporarily see what networks are around when I'm travelling outside Cingular's coverage area.
Richard
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Are you talking about
HKLM\Security\Phone\ManualDisable=0
and
HKLM\Security\Phone\PreferredDisable=0
???? (No offense, but why not just say so??)
Setting ManualDisable to 0 gives me the desired Network Selection stuff but won't let me register on EITHER Cingular or T-mobile. I'd expect it not to work on T-mo, but am surprised about the Cingular side....
Folks in the thread you referenced: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=266794 say these settings won't stick across a soft boot...that'd be inconvenient to say the least. Yep, I just confirmed that the setting is reset on soft boot....
It would seem like there should be some way to stop WM5 from updating its settings based on the SIM card, but maybe not. At least this hack will let me temporarily see what networks are around when I'm travelling outside Cingular's coverage area.
Richard
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sorry i didnt know the hack right off, so i directed you. but actually i dont know if many people knew this but when i did the hack with the 8125, after soft rebooting the phone, the enable manual network selection would be removed but i would still be conncted to the t mobile tower!!! i confirmed this buy doing a sound test believe it or not. whenever im on cingy,s tower i can hear interference whenever im close to an active speaker or if im on my lan line, but on tmobile tower it doesnt generate that interence at all and that how i confirmed that i was still on that tower even after i did a soft reboot! the only way it would switch me back to the cingy tower is when i pushed find network! i guess some folks caught onto that so this time they wont let us register on the tower at all with the 8525's. but it would be nice if someone can find out how to enable this feature again!
any news Manual phone network selection
Guys - it is problem with Cingular card not phone.
On normal (non Cingular) branded phone Cingular cards disables manual network sellection and preferred network list.
Checked on TyTN and Motorola SVLR. Any other card has this access.
This is intentional from Cingular and it is embedded on their SIMcard.
Pawlisko said:
This is intentional from Cingular and it is embedded on their SIMcard.
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Yes, and on the SLVR and other Motos, one can configure the phone to IGNORE that SIM directive - many of us would like to find this feature on the Hermes as well....
Richard
Pawlisko said:
Guys - it is problem with Cingular card not phone.
On normal (non Cingular) branded phone Cingular cards disables manual network sellection and preferred network list.
Checked on TyTN and Motorola SVLR. Any other card has this access.
This is intentional from Cingular and it is embedded on their SIMcard.
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Agreed with my ATT Blue SIM (old) I can manually select networks with no issue, pop in my daughters Cingular SIM (same phone) and I lose the feature until I swap back. One of the many reasons I won't give up my old SIM
"Problem with Cingular Simcard but not phones?" I dun really think so.
I have this 3G sim, on Nokia N70, I could manually select between Cingular and ATT signals. However, when it is on my 8525, it just simply cant...
How would this support your conclusion here?
Anyone come up with any solution here? I need ATT signal in my apartment, but not that crappy, call dropping, auto-selected Cingular signal.
Please advise.
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I have this 3G sim, on Nokia N70, I could manually select between Cingular and ATT signals. However, when it is on my 8525, it just simply cant...How would this support your conclusion here?
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Simple. It's a well known fact that the SIM card can (and Cingular ones do) supply a directive to the phone to prohibit network selection. Some phones ignore this or can be told to ignore this. Apparently your N70 ignores it. Again, it's a well known fact that the 8525 does NOT ignore this directive. Some folks have been able to get Cingular to do an OTA to their SIM card to enable network identification, but I've never heard of anyone getting the network selection turned on....
Richard
its definitely not dependent on the sim card, because once again, I pulled out the 3g sim and placed it into an 8125 and I was able to select the second tower and register on it, so its something with the 8525's that's blocking this!
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its definitely not dependent on the sim card, because once again, I pulled out the 3g sim and placed it into an 8125 and I was able to select the second tower and register on it, so its something with the 8525's that's blocking this!
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LOL! Read my response above.
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Simple. It's a well known fact that the SIM card can (and Cingular ones do) supply a directive to the phone to prohibit network selection. Some phones ignore this or can be told to ignore this. Apparently your N70 ignores it. Again, it's a well known fact that the 8525 does NOT ignore this directive. Some folks have been able to get Cingular to do an OTA to their SIM card to enable network identification, but I've never heard of anyone getting the network selection turned on....
Richard
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Then if like what you said, it doesnt matter if the SIM blocks the network selection or not, if the phone can ignore the prohibition on network selection, then it should be all right to selection other networks, right?
If it depends on the phone also, shouldnt it be a way to tweak the setting or OS or watever to make this thing working? (I bet it is not a hardware restriction, isn't it?)
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Then if like what you said, it doesnt matter if the SIM blocks the network selection or not, if the phone can ignore the prohibition on network selection, then it should be all right to selection other networks, right?
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Well sure, *IF* you can figure out how to tell the phone to ignore it. Obviously the carrier does NOT want you to do this, or they would have provisioned the SIM to allow selection. So the definition of "all right" varies
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If it depends on the phone also, shouldnt it be a way to tweak the setting or OS or watever to make this thing working? (I bet it is not a hardware restriction, isn't it?)
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Agreed, but as far as I know no one has found how to do that on the 8525.
Richard
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LOL! Read my response above.
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lol, i humble myself to thy post above my initial response!!!!
Preferred Networks.
Just curious for those in the USA. When you select the Preferred Networks option are you getting networks in the list from Europe? I'm wondering if this is what's causing my phone to appear as "roaming". The triangle keeps showing up and I don't understand why. Is it because my sim card is for T-Mobile (US) even though it's an unlocked and unbranded software of Cingular's 8525?
Hi guys ... got a question ...
I m in Germany at the moment visiting some friends and for that purpose I got my old German o2 pay as you go sim-card out to use for the time that I m here. I m normally on vodafone contract in the Uk.
What happened is, I put the sim card in, working fine - just like it did in the Xperia last Xmas when I was here - however, then I topped up my phone (15 Euro), I sent 2 text messages and made one phone call (2 minutes) and the next morning when I woke up, I had a text message saying that my credit is down to Zero.
So I called o2 to ask them what happend but because this is a sim card that I got from a friend, and which has gone through I dont know how many hands, I couldnt answer their security questions. So they refused to give me any information.
What I did then is, I went online and registered my phone number on the o2 website - this way I get access to my pay as u go bill with a complete breakdown of all charges. However, the charges that took the money from my account are not listed there. Or to be more precise, they are listed there but it doesnt say what they money was taken for.
So for example it will say: 35 minutes - 9.71 Euro - but the two fields that are suppossed to tell you what the charge was for are blank.
So I m not sure what to do now. As I said I didnt have this problem with the Xperia last christmas when I was here. Moreover, although I think that it is impossible for the Xperia to use any internet services as it is pre-configured to vodafone UK, I nevertheless disabled all the data connections in the comm manager including microsoft direct push.
Is there any way that the phone could have connected to the internet using sim card settings or something? I checked under my connections and I ve configrued it to use "My ISP" whenever it wants to connect the internet. This is correct isnt it?
Any ideas what this could be? Since I m not gonna get information from o2 I was hoping somebody on here may be able to help me
Thanks for the time guys
Amano
All i could suggest is installing and "nodata" cab so the xperia cant use and date - search for it in the forum - that seems like the sort of thing it could be - i dont think u can steal from an account or anything though but if it isnt listing the other stuff you are using it could be a problem with o2? i guess u need to ring them too to see whts going on and ask ur friend foir the security info
after carefully monitoring the phone it does seem to be the contract internet that causes the charges which - despite data connections being off - seems to connect somehow anyway.
Now two questions:
1: How can it connect to the internet without the right sim card being in there? The phone is pre-configured to Vodafone UK settings so how can it use contract internet on o2 Germany?
2: There is no way I can be charged for anything in the UK if I havent been using my sim card right? This may seem like a silly question but I dont know I m just worried now that there is some crazy way through which o2 can log in using my vodafone settings and that I m being charged at both ends for the connection (nightmare).
reason I m worried about the latter is that when I click on the connection symbol (the H) at the top of mym screen it says: connected contract internet and it shows u the time it has been connected for - then I have to disable this manually by clicking on cancel - however, I havent had credit on my phone for 2 days now (since I made this post) so how can it be connected to anything? I m really confused
What do u think?
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after carefully monitoring the phone it does seem to be the contract internet that causes the charges which - despite data connections being off - seems to connect somehow anyway.
Now two questions:
1: How can it connect to the internet without the right sim card being in there? The phone is pre-configured to Vodafone UK settings so how can it use contract internet on o2 Germany?
2: There is no way I can be charged for anything in the UK if I havent been using my sim card right? This may seem like a silly question but I dont know I m just worried now that there is some crazy way through which o2 can log in using my vodafone settings and that I m being charged at both ends for the connection (nightmare).
reason I m worried about the latter is that when I click on the connection symbol (the H) at the top of mym screen it says: connected contract internet and it shows u the time it has been connected for - then I have to disable this manually by clicking on cancel - however, I havent had credit on my phone for 2 days now (since I made this post) so how can it be connected to anything? I m really confused
What do u think?
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Install no data! clearly it has connected to the German O2 Data Connection! It must have auto configured it or something - install no data and see if that helps