Hello,
i've read it in web page but can't recall where that win ce 5 is out!?
If yes where can we get it from ?? How can i upgrade my i-mate PDA2k from win2003 se to ce 5??
thanks
windows on pda's is very very unlike windows on pc's
a rom requires to be 100% made for the spc device
so you cant get it ever! unless HTC makes a basic rom and
hand it over to the operators like o2 orange and.....
and about if it's out then i've not come across any pda's with it yet
I have seen a lot of reports, comparisons and evaluations of CE5.
BSquare seem of have CE5 ROMS avcailable for their products :
http://www.bsquare.com/products/bsp/amd_download.asp
Actually, it looks as though CE5(Macallan) was realeasd in July 2004.
You can get a device emulator for it here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...12-CA31-4BE9-A3BF-B9BF4F64CE72&displaylang=en
and an evaluation version of platform builder to create os images for the emulator from here :
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/getstart/evaluate/default.aspx
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Will I be able to upgrade XDA's 2002 Version to 2003 when it's released in the next months ? :?:
No, at least not likely. Rumour has it that the new OS requires more than 32Mb of ROM. That is why the iPaq 3970 and 5450 (and a few others) carry 48Mb ROM.
Would we not be able to do a limited upgrade AKA the 3630 ipaq upgrade to 2002 and maybe add a few apps into ram ??
I hope so.
maybe also we can increase ROM size? does hardware supports this? As I know, RAM upgradeable on all MDAs/XDAs to 64Mb (and maybe more? I seen info but don't know how)
So if we'll got 48 or 64 of flash rom we can upgrade. But what 2003 system is will be? Can you give some infos about it?
Pocket PC 2003, codename Ozone, will primarily be a bug-fix release for Pocket PC 2002 with few enhancements. Users should not expect big changes.
Well i agree you may not notice many deffrence or changes but i was assured from people at Microsoft that majore changes within the OS will take place. I am not sure if they will ever be able the fix the bugs GOD knows each day we discover tonnes...
Anyways we should wait and see
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Why wouldn't it be possible to upgrade?
The amount of build-in ROM shouldnt be that much of a problem. Since PPC 2003 PE mainly features bugfixes that total size of the OS shouldn't have increased that much. Else it would be possible to install some application is RAM like they did for the iPAQ 36xx.
The only real reason I can think of is the lack of support from O2 and the other telco's that sell these devices.
Keep hoping!
Kamil
I think it is very possible to see XDA can upgrade to PPC 2003 phone edition, however the upgrade may not be free. I look forword to upgrade my T-Mobile MDA with a PPC 2003 O2 English ROM :twisted: .
Pocket PC 2003 Phone Edition
More About Pocket PC 2003
Microsoft recently gave developers an overview of the next version of its Pocket PC operating system. Codename Ozone, this will primarily be a bug-fix release for Pocket PC 2002 with a few enhancements.
Developers will have access to new tools to allow them to build applications that take fuller advantage of the XScale processors found in most of today's handhelds. However, these applications will not run under Pocket PC 2002. Of course, the reverse is not true, as Pocket PC 2003 will retain backward compatibility.
Microsoft has decided to postpone adding other new features, such as voiced control, until a .NET version of Pocket PC is completed -- expected in two to three years.
it will be possible to upgrade the 3870 too ...and it has the same amount of rom ...if i'm not wrong ...
Er... according to Microsoft sources, pocket PC 2003 phone edition runs on Windows CE 4.2 - this is more than a bug fix release!
2003
does anyone have a copy of the BETA version floating around?
IT works fine
I have hacked to HTC phone, parts are SX56 and parts are XDA, but I am running 2003 fine on it right now. There seems to be all sorts of little things, and some of the skins are much prettier, but other than that I don't notice anything huge.
Yeah, I am running Palm OS 6 in my reconstruted XDA with 256M ram and Amd Opteron processor too. It is extermely fast, as fast as my Desktop computer.
hehe :lol:
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Yeah, I am running Palm OS 6 in my reconstruted XDA with 256M ram and Amd Opteron processor too. It is extermely fast, as fast as my Desktop computer.
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Thats not rue, ist it?
WOuöd br the best solution
Sorry, my BT-Desktop´s Battery was empty :shock:
YESSSS!!!
xda with PocketPC2003 is a reality! At least one such device was received by local pda-related software company for review. I have no details about current devices upgrade availability, though.
The only fact is: PocketPC2003 for xda exists and should be pre-installed to new devices after OS will be presented by Microsoft.
I have it on good authority that it is feasible to put PC2003 onto Xda, however this will only happen for evaluation purposes and is unlikely to be available as a general upgrade.
Seems like someone has finally made a start on developing a PPC version to the CellTrack which was only available for smartphones running Windows Mobile from http://celltrack.spv-developers.com.
I found this while googling CellTrack for a PPC version. It seems there is a beta version out for the I-Mate Jam which will work with other PPCs running WM 2003. The app ran on my MDA II but would only show the LAC and the CellID since it is a testing version while the bugs for transitioning the program from Windows Mobile for Smartphones to the PPC Editions.
Check the bottom of the page:
http://www.thelogster.34sp.com/celltracker/
I haven't found anything close to this yet so for the moment, it looks like this is the best we'll get.
sorry digging up old thread, but unfortunately even the site is down. did you managed to keep track of the file 20051209_NiceRIL.zip ?
Someone else found
NiceTrack v2 (Q)VGA
Tack a look here :
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=107293
I know this may sound stupid, but what's the difference between a smartphone & PocketPC ? I've got a v1640 and it boots up with windows mobile 5.0 and the information says it's running pocket PC. But....on some web sites they call it a smartphone and when I install software for smartphones, sometimes they run and other times it says "up yours". And then I also get the same problems when running software for Pocket PC's, does it have to be PocketPC 2002, 2003 or windows mobile 5.0 to run properly. Funny thing is on Microsoft's site they call it a smartphone and vodaphone call it a smartphone but when I tried to run the tweaks2k2 program for smartphones, guess what ? It said "Get Stuffed, this program only runs on smartphones and mine is running PocketPC ! (You know what I mean). So the question is do i install software for a smartphone or PocketPC ?
You got a "Windows Mobile PocketPc(PPC)" Running "Windows Mobile 5.0(WM5)"
Use only programs that have support for PPC, and WM5
That some call it a SmartPhone, just shows how smart they are ;-)
Until the platforms have merged you can use a simple rule of thumb
Pocket PC = touch screen and stylus
Smartphone = no touch screen, no stylus.
Hi,
yesterday I was reading about putting new WM 6.1 on my 614c. After reading all day long other ppl experience about WM6.1 on their devices I decided to put it too….
The main reason I put it it was when I saw this link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm61-faq.mspx . (I don’t like 3th parity appz so my PDA can “look” different).
After WM was done installing on my PDA I was a bit puzzled. My today screen is/was looking the same like on WM6.
So is there by any chance something I’m missing here or theirs no such feature on our beloved devices?!?
TNX
Btw I have iPAQ 614c ROM WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0).
Hm... yes, you seem to have confused the home screen on Windows Mobile Standard with the one on Professional. WM 6.1 Pro's home screen is exactly like the one on WM6.
If you're really against 3rd "parity" plugins, I hope you're ready to wait until Q2 2009 - that's supposedly when WM 7 will be out.
That’s odd a bit.
Coz I taught it was like in Vista case. Vista Ultimate has all the features it’s up to the user which one he will use and which one not.
So from my point of view WM Standard has better GUI than WM Professional.
But nwm I will wait…
BTW tnx 4 answer and keep up the good work.
Why not !
I'm own Win CE 6 SDK and VS 2005. I start developing custom OS builds. It's going fine, I can build custom image, here is example.
It is compiled for ARM so architecture is compatibile with WM Devices. It generate ROM image which can be moded with existing tools. At this stage I want to develop good, stable image, and then start stage 2 - Combining WM drivers from WM device (They are back compatible) with Win CE 6 image.
We will see if this will end it any way, I will informe you about progress...
The first and two last screenshots show IV distribution which is "universal" and total commander runing fine
The second screenshots are from first, profiled version, but they show fine some win ce features...
At this moment I must update distribution to r2
If you saw, or not... Win Ce is runing fine on Nokia N800, the video was also posted here: http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/27/vmware-mvp-weds-windows-ce-and-android-in-unholy-matrimony-on-du/
Edit: If anyone is interested what components and features can be included in build, I created screenshots which show them:
http://rapidshare.com/files/204557405/features.rar.html
Edit 2: Currently updating to R2 for maximum quality of release.
looks good, i think, whats the implications of this exactly?
wm6/6.5 is built on winCE 5, right?
WM 6, 6.1, 6.5 = CE 5
WM 7 = CE 6
Generaly CE 6 is faster. mor stable than 5, there is also more drivers, I test pocket total commander and it works fine, win ce 6 also use cab installers but they arent the same as for wm, they need litle modyfications to run on ce
sounds good
man, i wish you all the best.
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looking forward to this!
Good Luck!!! will keep an eye on this thread..
This is really good for those GPS programs that only CE car units can do. This would be amazing step towards running full gps sw with all options on a ppc windows mobile way to go..
I wish you a luck... fingers crossed.
I own only PB5.0...
Good Luck Dude..Hope u comeup wid a Revolution..
Will you produce a kitchen for all devices presented here, or (and) others as well?.. And how do you think, could the drivers porting process be a hell?
wow definitely subscribing to this thread!
but are you using a derivative of the meizu firmware based on wince 6? Wouldn't that be easier than making something from scratch? Is it possible to port that to our devices? This is an excellent morning treat =)
As I say before, porting drivers is not requried, becouse drivers work on kernel level so there is no somethink like WM drivers, there are onlu Win CE drivers, But drivers from Win CE 5.2 (on which are based all WM devices) are compatibile with CE 6. I'm curently working on stable distribution for Win CE 6, then i will merge WM emulator image with CE image and will see if it will work, if yes I will go to hardware test - my candidate is my ipaq 214 becouse it is perfect for Win CE due to strong hardware, and there is not many drivers to repleace becous this ipaq doesnt have camera, gsm, gps... If this all will go fine I will publish distribution and instructions how to do this...
not bad
so it will still take some time before it is seen on a touch pro which isn't bad
in fact I have no knowledge of this truthfully ><
I am very happy you are doing this
but as far cosmetic design how does this differ from wince 5.2?
domineus said:
not bad
so it will still take some time before it is seen on a touch pro which isn't bad
in fact I have no knowledge of this truthfully ><
I am very happy you are doing this
but as far cosmetic design how does this differ from wince 5.2?
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in case of Kernel it is like XP to Vista kernel, in case of UI there is not big difference from 5.2 to 6
but then with this would it be possible to integrate at least cosmetic theme like uhm this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KVG-6sriwY
minus the multi touch feature
elektrownik
Is a completely different APIs in there? I'm talking about porting OEM apps...
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elektrownik
Is a completely different APIs in there? I'm talking about porting OEM apps...
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No the API's are most the same, there are eaven the same DirectX and DirectShow, as default Net cf 2.0 can be included
I was actually thinking about something like this about a month or two ago.... i watched the vs studio videos on it and it just started looking like it was a little above my level for the amount of time i had Good luck on the project!
To those of you worried about cosmetics...
Right now we have the control to customize about 50 to 60 percent of the ui. With a custom build of wince, everything is 100% customizable (because we have access to the source code.)
I like customizability but I have no clue on where to begin ><
that would be the sucky part...but if it is touted to be better and faster than win ce 5.0 it would be something I am willing to try