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JVM for pJava on XDA II MS PocketPC (2003)

I have an XDA II running MS PocketPC version 4.20.0 (2003) Rom version is 1.52.00WWE.
I have reviewed all previous posts on the JVM subject and appreciate the XDA II is new and therefore may not be as many users out there who have tried a JVM yet. Hopefully someone can help me.
I want to run a pJava application that was built using a Standard Java 2 complier for deployment on the pJava environment. That works well on an IPAQ running Jeode. However the IPAQ Jeode does not run on the XDA. I am awaiting a response from Esmertec as to whether they have something suitable. I tried Ewe but that does not work. I can purchase J9 to try but before I do, I wonder has anyone got a JVM to run on XDAII, Windows PPC 2003 sucessfully. The app loads over the air so happy to have some one point at it if they have this configuration (XDAII MS 2003)and a JVM installed and running.
TIA
David

what about the one from sun ?
or is that java1 ?

Update on some progress.
I cannot find as such a JVM on the Sun site in Archive (EOL) that can be installed on PocketPC 200X. If I am missing something please advise.
On IBM site could not get past the login for trial S/W
Ewe did not work.
Creme did run and has my application half working so best so far. Lots of bugs that were not there with Jeode on IPAQ.
Could anyone send me the Sun JVM?
regards
David

Running VMs
I had Ewe running fine on the XDAII last month, this month I switched to Superwaba as it works closer to the way standard J2ME is supposed to. Haven't gotten around to testing custom code on it yet but the samples load without a hitch. The Jeode is certified so runs even smoother and I have heard of people using it on this device, plan to switch to that soon.

. . and oh yeah, the EOL stuff from sun won't get you far, it's ancient.
The IBM packages are great and even were when I tried them 2 yrs ago.
But yes, their downloading process is a pain, I had to pick up half a GB of Websphere Studio Device Developer from their site to get what I needed.
If you're really serious about your work I can send it to you on a CDROM.

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/2209.html
somethings comming which may make it easier

Appreciate the input. Making some progress with Creme, issues with Jeode. Will need to migrate away from pJava going forward but enough progress for the moment. Again appreciate the support.
regards
David

As with so many of the JVMs they say:
We offer Redmond Decaf for hardware manufacturers
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which means it's unlikely to appear on Handango as a cheap download.
O2 UK, in their original marketing for the device, said that a JVM would be released with a ROM update in the near future, however they seem to have removed all references to this from their website. Surely there's a legal issue here: promising something to encourage people buy a product and then reneging on the contract. What would happen if they had said "if you buy this product we'll send you £50 in the post in a couple of months' time" and did the same thing.

Word from O2 is Rom versions above 1.6 comes with JVM supporting MIDP but apparently not pJava :-(

Anything like CellTrack Beta 6 for a Himalaya or any PPC?

I tried installing CellTrack Beta 6 on my MDA II just to see if it would work but obviously it doesn't work since it's made for Windows Mobile smartphones. Does anyone have any info on whether there is a cell tower tracking app for a PPC? I've searched on freewareppc.com and a couple other sites to no avail.
http://celltrack.spv-developers.com/
Thanks for any info,

Verizon XV6700 WM6 Upgrade?

I have a Verizon XV6700, but am quite new to PocketPC scene. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there's an WM6 update out there that is compatible with my phone. I've found some of the WM6 roms, and know how to go about installing them...but I haven't found anyone saying they have upgraded an XV6700. Any help would be much appreciated.
This site is alittle encouraging...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/verizonwireless/default.mspx
seeing as how it shows my phone running Windows Mobile 6
Thanks,
Chris 3D

Have no message about APACHE'S wm6 come out, or any schedule. The MS pages just shows apache that runs WM5, not crossbow.

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That's because there are no WM6 ROMs for Apaches. The highest weve gotten is to WM5 AKU 3.5. With this there are some programs from WM6 included but that is about it.
There is some hope that now that the Mogul is out we might be able to get a WM6 working but I wouldn't hold your breathe.

but what if we got a copy of WM6 and tried to load it in the Apache? Would it work? Ive got an extra apache i have been using for testing.......i wonder if I........

There is no generic "copy of WM6" you can get that will work on the 6700. Any copy you find is for any of 100s of different hardware - putting it on your hardware may kill your hardware, or at best just not work.
Just wait, or if you want to help go to ppcgeeks dot com, where helmi_c is working with several folks to bring updated roms to the 6700 (thanks helmi!)

I think?
My apache just got upgraded to WM6 by a fellow xdaer. I am now in love with my pda all over again. My montra had been it is not a good phone and it is not a good pda. It works just not even as good as my xv6600 with ppc2003 on it. It doesn't hang up nearly as much with 6 vs. 5. It seams to work great, better than WM5. Finally I have voice activated dialing again after a hiatus of 4 years! I am actually making this post while looking for the source info that was used refrenced in xdadev.com. Happy hunting I'll try to find my way back here if i find the info.

I just got the xv6700 after having the treo 700wx.
Can some please give me a step by step on how to get wm6 on the device?
Do I download the apache thing directly to the phone and then do the boot mode?
Thanks

I would also like it if someone could post a step by step way on getting WM6 to the xv6700

WM6
for all apache owners who dont kno it has been developed by helmi_c
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11074
this is for you guys who dont kno

WM6 for verizon
check out ppc geeks apache upgrades...helmi_c...I've found the latest version works, but you have to be very spartan about your choices of apps. It gets weird if you select too many items and you really don't have any clues other than your apache consistently screws up, i.e., performance declination, programs not functioning as intended, anything that takes away from your machine doing what it is intended to do.
I've loaded the same rom 3 times and all three have behaved in thier owm unique way. I'll be more specific if anyone is interested.
Suffice to say the 3rd time was a charm. I only soft reset maybe twice a week. I do have to be aggressive in my memory management.
Have fun.
KW

Vario II (T-Mobile UK) and WM 6.0

Hi all... does anyone know about T-Mobile UK, and if they about to release upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.0?
My current Windows is way too slow, a friend upgraded his same phone with a 6.0 version he found on the net (illegal version I guess) but it looks fantastic, and is way faster than the previous.
Thanks!

I work for TMUK & have checked this (as I have a vario II myself!). There are no plans to release an official WM6 upgrade, the focus is on the new WM6 devices (touch & vario 3).
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!

jannen said:
Hi all... does anyone know about T-Mobile UK, and if they about to release upgrade to Windows Mobile 6.0?
My current Windows is way too slow, a friend upgraded his same phone with a 6.0 version he found on the net (illegal version I guess) but it looks fantastic, and is way faster than the previous.
Thanks!
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there is what appears to be a beta tmobile wm6 rom about (you can find links to it in the Hermes Mobile 6 forum), which is very good indeed. Apparently tmo aren't going to release it though, but tmo uk's whole treatment of htc devices seems to be a bit random anyway, so you never know.

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I went to the T-mobile store (Uk) and asked about the upgrade. He said should be no problem downloading WM6 from Windows website, and should not worry with warranty as Im already over the 12 month warranty period. Ive been everywhere on Microsoft's website, but cant find any download! (???) Besides would that cause probs as the phone is locked to T-Mobile?
Anyone help here, please. Im not an expert (Im bit fed up to how slow WM5 compared having a 400mhz processor!)

you could either look on here for the htc original hermes rom, the t-mobile test rom, they are both for wm6, infact any rom in the hermes forum works superbly.

Sorry to ask stuipid questions, but what bennifits will i see if i upgrade to WM6 from WM5? My hermes seems to be running pretty well with WM5 but maybe im missing something.
Thanks

There's a whole forum for WM6 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=355 )discussion and tons of info to cover all of the above. If you want to know about the different ROm's pluses, minuses etc read the stickies. Still, why anyone would want a TMo ROM is beyond me, loads of extra stuff you never use and a dial pad in PINK...

wm6, no real difference
i just thought I would add to this thread and say that there arent any real major differences in windows mobile 5 & 6, the email is the only big advantage in that outlook can display html messages but, in good old microsoft design, you have to upgrade the server side of things (ie, exchange 2003 to exchange 2007).
Mail2web (which i use for push email) only uses exchange 2003 so you still get your emails in plain text.
Microsoft did a good job of dressing up windows mobile 6 as something its not but, having said that the hermes and its software beats sloppy nokia's and sony ericssons hands down!

Windows Mobile 6.1 Device Emulators - Posted 2008/04/01

Microsoft has posted their official Windows Mobile 6.1 device emulators for download now.
Came across these looking for something else, so I thought I would share the link in case they are useful.
Windows Mobile 6.1 Emulators - USA

Time to update my WM6 emulators... Thanks for this!