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So, I used to run WinMo way back when, and I'm familiar with flashing, HardSPL, blah blah blah, whatevs. I haven't done the rooting process yet on my phone because I'm finding it hard to find a few key things that I need.
-What is the effect on my phone when I root, in regards to data? Do I need to backup? If so, can I backup on my SD card or is everything wiped? What program could I use to backup?
-Are there any crazy little tweaks or tips that anyone has to help guard against a brick?
-I've read the pros and cons list, but can I get more details from someone? Can this help with battery life, allow me to flash my radio, increase general connectivity, etc.
All help would be greatly appreciated, and I'll plan on doing a donation today. I've just been out of the loop (running WinMo 6.5 style out of the loop:/) so some advice to a rook would be great. My goal is to get out of school and come home and root and fiddle with things with little to no problems. Thanks a ton everyone.
Dig Life!
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The process of actually rooting doesn't mess with any of your stuff.
I use Titanium Backup to restore apps after flashing roms.
In general, most of this stuff COULD help your battery life, here there are Devs that will help - with sprint you get their tech support.
Well, I DL'ed TB and it says that I have to root first? Am I missing something here? Is it ok to root or will it delete all of my apps and what not? I mean, if it does, it isn't really that big of a deal, considering I can just download them again, I'm just looking for input.
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Well, I DL'ed TB and it says that I have to root first? Am I missing something here? Is it ok to root or will it delete all of my apps and what not? I mean, if it does, it isn't really that big of a deal, considering I can just download them again, I'm just looking for input.
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I'm pretty new, too, but I think I can answer your questions. Rooting (at least with the One Click Method I used on my Epic) doesn't destroy any data/apps on your phone. It simply gives your user root access to the underlying OS. Once that is achieved, you can modify things and tweak things. Titanium Backup will let you backup all system files and data, but only AFTER rooting.
This is not a ROM flash or anything like that from the WinMo days. I haven't gotten that far on Android, so I'm not sure what the flashing options are yet, but rooting is harmless on its own. It will let you royally screw things up though, so once it is done, be careful what you do.
Well, I tried to do a few things like listed in the One-Click root thread, but I guess I'm just not getting it. Now that I know the effects of the root, I'd like to be able to actually do it, but I don't have enough details. I haven't ever rooted before, and I'm finding it confusing. What was listed in the one-click thread wasn't specific enough for me, I don't know if I need to run from SD card, what the ADB thing is, nothing. I was a WinMo master and I'm finally coming to Android which is literally worlds away from my comfortable norm.
what os are you running? the one click comes with everything you need. theres an osx version the windows version that noobnl updates and the linux version i maintain
I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do
copsgottanks said:
I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do
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I wouldn't exactly call root harmless..in itself it is ok..but if you give root access to a program that program has FULL access to your system..aka anything inputed on your phone or stored on your phone can be accessed by the program with root access. Though generally its not a problem..just careful which programs you allow to use root access.
Also, at what point are you getting stuck? did you install the drivers? are you getting any sort of errors or etc?
There is also some good reading over at SDX Developers.
I have hacked and rooted before, WinMo, Palm, HTC Hero, but this one was tough. It basically took me two days off and on, but it worked - finally.
Downloading drivers is a b--h, they are finicky and I needed all of them, kept
hanging on 2. They are slow, and kept looking for sources.
Search here, there is good info, then look there (above) I used OneClickExploit 2.2.4 which finally worked. It had some of the same files
in other methods, but this one worked.
I'm not changing roms, did on Hero to 2.2 because they weren't getting upgrade but I'm just going to hang and wait for Froyo.
Good luck
copsgottanks said:
I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do
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Download and unzip the one-click archive in to a folder. Double-click the run.bat. I had some problems where it would start and then hang. I often had to kill it and rerun the batch file. Sometimes I had to end task on the adb.exe process. Eventually after rebooting the phone, etc, I was able to get it to work. Not sure what the exact problem was. I think part of it was connectivity to the phone via usb. Connect through a port on your computer, not a hub.
Also, the batch file is just a bunch of commands. You can open a command line in the folder where the batch file is and run each line in the batch file individually from the command line. That will give you some idea of what is happening and where it might be failing.
Like I said, I had to stop and restart a bunch of time before it finally got through to the end of the batch file correctly. When it did, it was fast. Not sure what was happening.
gTen said:
I wouldn't exactly call root harmless..in itself it is ok..but if you give root access to a program that program has FULL access to your system..aka anything inputed on your phone or stored on your phone can be accessed by the program with root access. Though generally its not a problem..just careful which programs you allow to use root access.
Also, at what point are you getting stuck? did you install the drivers? are you getting any sort of errors or etc?
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When I try to install the drivers I get this message:
"The MSS InstallWizard was not Completed for SAMSUNG USB Driver for Mobile Phones V1.3.450.0
The MSS InstallWizard was not successfully installed SAMSUNG USB Driver for Mobile Phones V1.3.450.0. Click Finish to exit the wizard.
And I'm basically stuck there. I've searched around and can't find any drivers that will work. Like I said, I'm on 64-bit Windows 7 with a clean OS and no previous negative install history. Not sure what the issue could be?
Found the drivers and everything that I needed and I'm rooted, but now I have one more question. I don't plan on flashing any roms, I'm alright with the stock rom, at least for now. I wanted to know what rooting will do in regards to over the air updates on my phone. Will I be able to OTA to FroYo when released? Any info would be great guys, thanks.
where did you find the drivers? I am having the exact same problem that you had where the installwizard cannot download finish installing the drivers for whatever reason
Hi
Today i downloaded a ICS ROM from a link here in the xda-forum. As i started to extract the zip my avira antivirus screams that there is a Trojan.
it says that the linv3p.dll is the trojan tr/atraps.gen and i had to move it into quarantine.
could that be? And what can i do if this is a mistake of the antivir programm?
All the other people seems not to have this problem.
thx
friedolino
All roms have some kind of a virus that isnt a virus. Even for other devices but thats only detected harmful to the computer im not sure but i can tell you that it wont effect the phone at all.
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This is called a false positive. If it were malware, it would probably be targeting your computer as opposed to your Android device. As I am doubting Avira isn't scanning for Linux/Android threats.
ok. thank you.
then it seems i have to deactivate my antivir cause it don't let me do anything with this file.
I've made it a habit to turn off antivirus when flashing anything thru odin/adb.
This is NOT native ubuntu, THATS why i wanted it. You can use CYANOGENMOD roms and this will just load like a normal app, or a normal terminal. Or in my case provide me with a capable server in my pocket. Thjs js so cool imo. Because i can run all the old perl scripts directly on my phone... People can use my little perl scripts right from my pocket! I like this!
I use android 2.3 but after i got it on 2.3 i factory reset, installed multiple other roms, including ICS roms and it all worked. But alot of cool features backtrack has to offer seem to require lots of reconfiguration on 4+. i recommend android 2.3 nutrino rom i got it all working godly on there. Without editing the boot.img once... Or rly anything..
This runs as an app and the app "changes" the "root" directory. So basically its a little hack, its not native ubuntu.
I heard people telling me my phone cant run arch linux or ubuntu and i beg to differ.
Here is the only link i used to get a full blown capable (whatever) in my pocket.
http://stuffresearch.tor.hu/?p=245
After your done. Download a vnc client app to use the graphical interface (startx X.org desktop)
After your done with that download a ssh server app (that way your ubuntu chroot will be able to navigate android filesystem)
The vnc server and ssh server do not need to route trafic to your lan nor internet.
leathan said:
Sorry for the repost, idk how to move threads. I heard people telling me my phone cant run arch linux or ubuntu and i beg to differ.
I can write a full guide and post my scripts to help but this link may be enough.
http://stuffresearch.tor.hu/?p=245
After your done. Download a vnc client app to use the graphical interface (startx X.org desktop)
After your done with that download a ssh server app (that way your ubuntu chroot will be able to navigate android filesystem)
The vnc server and ssh server do not need to route trafic to your lan nor internet.
After you got it on your phone i recommend... Unlocking ALL the arm repositories and deleteing the bloat packages cause you wont have alot of room.
I get 2gb of room for ubuntu apps after removing bloat.
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perhaps this is what ppl were talking about when they said that to you? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078919 not really sure, i'm more of a stock rom/cm rom kind of guy myself. Ubuntu is still too new for me on a computer for me to consider it for a rom on a phone
Thank you for link.
But I don't see what I can do with Linux on my phone.
What is your motivation to run it? What useful thinks you can do with it?
Girafik said:
Thank you for link.
But I don't see what I can do with Linux on my phone.
What is your motivation to run it? What useful thinks you can do with it?
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idk, that's why I stick to the CMs, stock ROMs, and other custom mod's along those lines.
I hope you guys read this.....
You can do almost anything you can on normal ubuntu... And it does not load unless you load it.
Honestly if you dont need ubuntu or a useful linux dont get it. But with this u can run linux binaries that are generally common.... And not just the tiny subset that busybox brings. But a giant giIant giant giant giant awesomeness
For example i love loading firefox and runnng the same addons that i run on my pc on cellphone.
I also love being anle to send my phone shell commands directly AND HAVE BINARIES that make that useful. (I can write perl scripts to automate it all now, powerfully)
For example you can run wireshark to sniff data.... You can really do anything ubuntu can do.
Usually downloading linux distros onto your phone *for chroot is very easy. But since backtrack is so big i needed an extra step which i couldnt find untill i read this link. I was very great-full to that guy. I hope he can help someone else thru me. Because i needed backtrack on my phone yes or yes.
I can now fully program using emacs directly on my phone (i connect a computer keyboard to my phone) but for me its always been a dream to have a real computer in my pocket that i can use to program and run real internet browsers and diagnose networks. Believe it or not i stay legal, very ironically
I know how nerdy that sounds, but theres a hacker in all of us, and this makes your phone a weapon.
Tbh most people wont even want this. But those who do will be so happy to know that they cAn hack the image to under 4gb and hence can run it on their phone. It just all works right out the box.
Just look at what ubuntu can do and if u rly rly want that and it works on the phone install this.
I think im going to do my own directions and make it two steps.
That way people will just click click and see for themselves what new things they can do.
THIS DOES NOT DELETE YOUR CM ROM. YOU CAN RUN THIS SIDE BY SIDE TO YOUR ROM, AND EVEN HAVEA. DUAL BOOT SETUP + THIS.
Its fully compatible to work side by side because ita a chroot not a real install
palmbeach05 said:
idk, that's why I stick to the CMs, stock ROMs, and other custom mod's along those lines.
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You can use this and stick to your cm rom.
Girafik said:
Thank you for link.
But I don't see what I can do with Linux on my phone.
What is your motivation to run it? What useful thinks you can do with it?
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You have linux already on your phone. Android runs on linux. Thats why chroot is so easy i think
This is about backtrack ubuntu. Linux comes when you buy the phone.
I tried typing "what useful things can ubuntu do" into google
But that wasn't helpful lol...
palmbeach05 said:
perhaps this is what ppl were talking about when they said that to you? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078919 not really sure, i'm more of a stock rom/cm rom kind of guy myself. Ubuntu is still too new for me on a computer for me to consider it for a rom on a phone
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This isnt a rom though. Im not knowledgeable in this area but i think since your running chrooted the android system still occupies the read only memory. I might sound dumb but i this is not in any way a rom. It fully sits in your REAL INTERNAL "sdcard" memory. Unless you load it ^.^ it auto closes when u close the terminal.. Atleast it shud
I believe that would be the case if you were to run ubuntu natively... Aka delete android.
leathan said:
I tried typing "what useful things can ubuntu do" into google
But that wasn't helpful lol...
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If you had to Google something like that you probably have no clue what BackTrack means or what it is meant for and should avoid following this guide anyway.
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Sorry for insulting you. But I have was programming nearly a decade before ubuntu even existed. It is a mere derivative, and backtrack is just a set of tools.
Google is powerful, you can hack with google. Googling what ubuntu is good for is perfectly ok imo, nothing to do with much.
Im NOT in IT... BUT I code 29 hrs a day average, atleast i try.
Si pensas que ubuntu esta correlacionado con la habilidad de programar estas en la ironia.
I dont see how any human would not like just having backtrack ubuntu on their phone ^.^
Even if i did not know already know all the tools.... You can just read... Or something ^.^
That guide was like 1 step from what i had done off the top of my head also... -.-
Not mean at all. But usually a programmer or someone in the IT industry knows what backtrack's purposes are. I am afraid I was just expressing an opinion in an open forum and didn't mean to come out as insulting or hurtful. Instead, I was trying to avoid you causing damage to your phone by venturing into the unknown. Calling someone dumb on the other hand IS insulting.
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leathan
hi
i have a question
i ve done all steps until 1st run of boot bt script by adb
my sh bootbt perfoming with many errors
it tells about lack of root access and "cant find directory .."
what kind of linux distributive do u use for adb, i think it may be related with my usb live linux version (dont want to install it)
USSRxAZ said:
leathan
hi
i have a question
i ve done all steps until 1st run of boot bt script by adb
my sh bootbt perfoming with many errors
it tells about lack of root access and "cant find directory .."
what kind of linux distributive do u use for adb, i think it may be related with my usb live linux version (dont want to install it)
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can you send me the full output you got when you ran bootbt? Maybe also the android VERSION and the bootbt source but first read bellow.
When you finish all the editing and you upload the /BT5 folder to your cellphone. are you sure your putting everything in the INTERNAL SDCARD. And also try moving all installed apps out of INTERNAL SD and into INTERNAL MEMORY. (I think i read somewhere somekid had to remove the real sdcard also... I dont see why lol, and i didnt have too.
Then you should just load up a teminal emulator on android and type: su and then sh bootbt. You said you did "sh bootsh" from adb. I did it from phone. But once the script runs it shouldnt matter where its invoked from so long as your running as root?
Try typing adb root first from pc.
Or type su first from terminal emulator on your phone.
To reply to mot.a.troll.... Im sorry im dumb and take suddle things like that as a big insult because i really dont think knowing about ubuntu or even backtrack. Is a requirement for this or for following that guide. I am damiliar with unix... Believe it or not. And i am DEFFINITLY not in IT, idk what "it" even means whaha. All i enjoy doing is programming when i was a kid in basic, and now 90% just perl all day (for many many years)
Ill edit my insult to u since your right, and its because im dumb and get offended. I wish i never even knew what ubuntu was period lol, but setting it all up manually is hard work and i just needed things working lol
I dont think the problem has anything to do with your linux distro or adb. Im 99.999999999% sure lol
Hacker ? Backtrack? *cough* , gentoo based linux for arm next time but nice effort.
Fyi backtrack really seems ok for live cd wifi stuff, but as phone had no promiscuous mode on wifi driver, whats the point ?
Just an off note, if u want linux on atrix this badly then why not chip in with porting ubuntu touch.
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i ve tryed it again with other ROM and sdcard placement but i m gettin same errors (no directory's, cant mount etc)
sry i havent posted log again
p.s.
Gentop2 (Gentoo) is the best experience i had with atrix and linux at all
I wish i have a dream what somebody will compile newer and better version than 05092013 but it wont happen i guess.
JustSueMe said:
Hacker ? Backtrack? *cough* , gentoo based linux for arm next time but nice effort.
Fyi backtrack really seems ok for live cd wifi stuff, but as phone had no promiscuous mode on wifi driver, whats the point ?
Just an off note, if u want linux on atrix this badly then why not chip in with porting ubuntu touch.
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Sorry if me being a hacker offends you or your definition of it. Personally idgaf.. my current job basicaly implies i atleast write clever enough perl to make money lol...
And for your off note... This may sound very "ignorant".. but i HATE the owners of ubuntu. and hate how closed it is. I would never help them.
Also about the promiscuous mode, I wasnt even aware phones had no promiscuous capable wifi drivers... are you sure? Either way I dont see why you NEED it for the plethora of tools offered to you just by downloading an .img file.... I understand gentoo is alot better... but i have no time? This took me 30mins... because i literally copy pasted the commands and then waited...
use your brain? I could hack on windows, ios, android, ipad, unix, linux, pickyourfavorite here... hacking is an abstraction above the operating system imho *cough* *noob* ...and chrooting android PERIOD. gives OBVIOUS benifits.
the link i found is an extremelly easy way to make it work
USSRxAZ said:
i ve tryed it again with other ROM and sdcard placement but i m gettin same errors (no directory's, cant mount etc)
sry i havent posted log again
p.s.
Gentop2 (Gentoo) is the best experience i had with atrix and linux at all
I wish i have a dream what somebody will compile newer and better version than 05092013 but it wont happen i guess.
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if you get an error like /local/data/mnt/ no such directory
then that means you just have to create that directory... and try again.
otherwise post your logs.
Remember what i wrote as a first reply too.
leathan said:
Sorry if me being a hacker offends you or your definition of it. Personally idgaf.. my current job basicaly implies i atleast write clever enough perl to make money lol...
And for your off note... This may sound very "ignorant".. but i HATE the owners of ubuntu. and hate how closed it is. I would never help them.
Also about the promiscuous mode, I wasnt even aware phones had no promiscuous capable wifi drivers... are you sure? Either way I dont see why you NEED it for the plethora of tools offered to you just by downloading an .img file.... I understand gentoo is alot better... but i have no time? This took me 30mins... because i literally copy pasted the commands and then waited...
use your brain? I could hack on windows, ios, android, ipad, unix, linux, pickyourfavorite here... hacking is an abstraction above the operating system imho *cough* *noob* ...and chrooting android PERIOD. gives OBVIOUS benifits.
the link i found is an extremelly easy way to make it work
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My definition of "hacker" is someone that manages to create a tool or find a way to overcome an obstacle that wasn't supposed to be passed, such as wifi passwords. in this sense, just by using someone elses tools doesn't put you into the category of hacker.
I see chroot can have a benefit, but not by much as it depends on the android os. As 95+% of androids wifi drivers are closed with no promiscuous mode then the generic way of wifi hacking isn't possible. Correct me of I'm wrong but I'm going to assume that's why u want backtrack
Noob? Im have a ubuntu touch port up and running already and. With custom kernel this gives much more benefit over a chroot .
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Hello
Self confessed Noob here.
Have been looking at flashing my 512MB HTC HD2 Leo Win Mobile 6.5 phone to Android Jelly Bean (probably PACman). Have read many of the threads and viewed YouTube videos and it seems clear enough, once I have backed up the phone data.
However, one issue I would like clarification on please.
I believe I need to start with HSPL2.08 for the Boot Loader (from the HSPL4 file), but my AVG Virus checker doesn't like this file and deletes it/'cleans up' the alleged infection. AVG reports a Win32 type virus. Have downloaded the file from XDA and elsewhere, but it always seems to report a virus.
Is this a false report or do I have to just use it and clean the PC after using the file?
Many thanks for any assistance
knotlob
Knotlob said:
I believe I need to start with HSPL2.08 for the Boot Loader (from the HSPL4 file), but my AVG Virus checker doesn't like this file and deletes it/'cleans up' the alleged infection. AVG reports a Win32 type virus. Have downloaded the file from XDA and elsewhere, but it always seems to report a virus.
Is this a false report or do I have to just use it and clean the PC after using the file?
Many thanks for any assistance
knotlob
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if the file you downloaded wasn'treported by someone else, then you can say screw AVG and continue what you're doing
I had the same sort of thing with Norton and an RUU recently, I sent a link to the file to Norton and within a day or so they sent me an email back saying the file was clean and that they would update their database. I don't think antiviruses are keen on .exe files, and err on the side of caution. If you are the cautious type too, you could do the same as above
I'm new here coming over from an HTC phone. Now have the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5. I wanted to use Sharpie603's All-In-One Tool, but Norton Anti-Virus keeps removing the .exe file after I extract it. Says it has malware. I wanted to post at Sharpie603's thread, but I haven't been around in this forum long enough to post in dev threads. So I'm putting this here. Hopefully, someone can pass this on to him. I hope it gets fixed soon. Thanks to anyone who can help.
Android to my knowledge doesnt use .exe files. I think Norton does a right job if the exe file came through an illegal download/download manager
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BatCavedIn said:
I'm new here coming over from an HTC phone. Now have the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5. I wanted to use Sharpie603's All-In-One Tool, but Norton Anti-Virus keeps removing the .exe file after I extract it. Says it has malware. I wanted to post at Sharpie603's thread, but I haven't been around in this forum long enough to post in dev threads. So I'm putting this here. Hopefully, someone can pass this on to him. I hope it gets fixed soon. Thanks to anyone who can help.
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Just turn off your protection when downloading/extracting the file because it does not have malware. Norton is just being overly cautious as is the case too many times.
thkroes said:
Android to my knowledge doesnt use .exe files. I think Norton does a right job if the exe file came through an illegal download/download manager
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The toolkit is a program that runs in the Windows environment to automate a lot of tasks for a new-ish user. It does not run on Android itself. And the file isn't illegal or anything like that.
It is the Towelroot application that trips the antimalware due to the fact that it is an exploit. It is safe to run.
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It is the Towelroot application that trips the antimalware due to the fact that it is an exploit. It is safe to run.
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It's a Trojan more like. Does what it is designed to do, and no more. Once rooted, remove TowelRoot.apk
got a note from Sharpie603
BatCavedIn said:
I'm new here coming over from an HTC phone. Now have the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5. I wanted to use Sharpie603's All-In-One Tool, but Norton Anti-Virus keeps removing the .exe file after I extract it. Says it has malware. I wanted to post at Sharpie603's thread, but I haven't been around in this forum long enough to post in dev threads. So I'm putting this here. Hopefully, someone can pass this on to him. I hope it gets fixed soon. Thanks to anyone who can help.
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got a note from Sharpie603 =
The toolkit has a number of phone hacking programs (towel root, SuperSU, and busy box) that yes, some anti virus applications flag a malicious. I can assure you there is no malware in this tool. Also, the way I converted the. Bat file to a. Exe can sometimes be flagged as well because its not a signed executable application by Microsoft. You got nothing to be worried about my friend. Here to help, not infect.
Thank you all for your comments
final solution
BatCavedIn said:
got a note from Sharpie603 =
The toolkit has a number of phone hacking programs (towel root, SuperSU, and busy box) that yes, some anti virus applications flag a malicious. I can assure you there is no malware in this tool. Also, the way I converted the. Bat file to a. Exe can sometimes be flagged as well because its not a signed executable application by Microsoft. You got nothing to be worried about my friend. Here to help, not infect.
Thank you all for your comments
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Got Toolkit working with Norton Antivirus turned off.
For a more permanent fix:
Opened Norton 360 Antivirus section and went to settings then "scans and risks" tab. Configured "Exclusions/Low Risks" section to ignore the Toolkit (extracted) folder in both "Items to Exclude from Scans" and "Items to Exclude from Auto-Protect, SONAR and Download Intelligence Detection"
Now Norton does not auto delete the toolkit.exe file.