Is there any BlueTooth WLAN?
Something like BlueTooth GPS.
If I have this BlueTooth WLAN, it will be so greeaatt!!!
Best regards,
Arto
I did see such a device but can't remember what it was called. Pocket Bridge or something. Mind you there was also meant to be a bluetooth hard drive haven't seen thouse mentioned for a while either.
There are two ways to connect to a LAN using BT, and only one of them is currently working with the BT implementation on the Magician.
The first, and best, way would be to get yourself a BT access point and connect it to your LAN. Need I say that this is the method that will not work with the Magician?
The second way, which will work on the magician, is to get a bluetooth dongle/card for your pc, create a wireless Activesync connection and use network passthrough.
Here is a device that will bridge bluetooth to wifi but it doesn't look very small:-
http://www.bluegiga.com/WRAPAS/
jwhitham said:
Here is a device that will bridge bluetooth to wifi but it doesn't look very small:-
http://www.bluegiga.com/WRAPAS/
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This is the first option I wrote about. It will not work with the Magician.
And if it did work with the Magician, why would you worry about the size? It is not something you carry around! It is like a WLAN access point but for bluetooth, you plug it in to your network and then you can connect the bluetooth device within a certain distance.
Need I tell you again, this will NOT, i repeat NOT work with the Magician. At least not with the current BT stack.
That's a shame it wont work. The reason I would want to carry it is because it can act as a bluetooth access point from a Wifi network. This would let you just public wi-fi hotspots without having a wi-fi card poking out of your magician and even have a 2GB SD card in there at the same time.
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Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!
Okay, I would like to be in my bed with my PDA, and surf the internet.
I dont have a Bluetooth dongle my self, by the guy next to me has. And I have permision to use his internet connection. (Less than 10 meters away, it about 3-4 meters).
So one problem is that I cant use the BT Active Sync, to surf the internet (I dont know if this is how it is done), like you can surf while the XdaII is in the cradel.
So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.
And then I have read about alot of users that has had problems with the WidComm stack, and say that the M$ BT stack can do the same in the latest update, but I cant find the settings, it all looks the same.
So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.
BTW, if you also know how to set up an audio gateway on the PDA (for my head set) then that wold be great as well. And maby to get the button on the headset to do M$ voice command (if you have it install), then that would be fantastic.
Try downloading bluetooth tools and see if that works for you.
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
I did that, but it did not change to much, it only gave me a "call last number" function in the head set, but not any thing with the network
BT and COM
i am having a hard time with it as well, I have win XP pro, and a sitecom USB BT dongle, the drivers for the dongle dont seem to work, it is has if the XP drivers have taken over, all the guides seem to use settings that are not available to the Windows XP BT drivers,
at one point i thought i got it, instead of connecting my XDA to the PC i did it the other way about. This time windows detected and setup some COM ports, although at the moment its at com 13 and 14
(this can be changed by doing to Device manager, selecting the port, properties, advanced, and changing it to whatever you want, it will say the port is in use, but none of the other ports 1-12 are infact in use (although it says they are) not sure if this will generate further problems?
So i think thats the PC side sorted?
now the PDA side, just before i updated PPC2003 i tried this and it didnt work, i then installed those BT tools and it came up with the cool servies page right at the end of setting up a link.
But didn't work, with hindsight i believe it would work if i had connect as i explained above, adding the XDA to the PC.
I then updated PPC2003 useing o2's updater.
setting up a link using the BT settings right after the update did have some extra settings to do with com ports but it still doesnt work and the connect via BT on activesync isnt there.
Then i tried those BT tools everyone is going on about
i get the BT icons on the desktop but thats it, nothing else happens. The cool services screen fails to pop up after setting the link and the connect via BT in sync is also missing.
this might be of no use but at one point useing standard drivers from XP and PPC2003 SP1 i did get a message saying it couldnt connect because it might not be a smart phone or PPC or somthing like that. im totally stuffed with this.
oh it does connect in that i can transfer files TO the XDA but not the other way about.
Hello folks!
This is how I've done it...
1- I installed Widcomm version 1.3.2.7 (on the PC) (BTW I use a Cheap-o-Epox USB dongle)
2- I Downloaded BT Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html)
3- I established an Activesync connection through Bluetooth (this is done on the PocketPC by using the Activesync/Tools/Connect via 'computername')
4- I configured Widcomm to always trust the incoming MDA2 Bluetooth connection.
5- That's it, works every time... (well actually sometimes works on the second try but works nonetheless)
Good luck!
Rayan
I've also had some success with the Widcomm stack, but I have one problem.
In order for the bluetooth connection to work, I need to log into an account on the XP machine. If someone else then comes along and logs into another account, then my bluetooth connection is dropped. Also, if I don't log into an account, then I can't use bluetooth.
Basically, it seems to be the case that instead of running as a service, the bluetooth stack is running in user accounts. Anyone else got experience with this? Is there a way to configure the installation so that it runs as a service?
Hi Guys,
I have a similar question... is there a release due / tools available to fully utulise the bluetooth stack like the ipaqs for example. Ipaqs can locate and connect to devices as a 'hunter' but the XdaII just seems to be the 'hunted' when it comes to establishing a connection. Is there any way to make my otherwise excellent XdaII a bit more agressive when it comes to seeking out bluetooth connections??? I have already installed the Bluetooth tools v1.01 but this doesn't help the actual 'seeking' connectivity part of things
Can any of you bright sparks out there help ???? If enough people wanted this functionality, what would it cost to develop if it is not available maybe ???
just a thought. Cheers all.
AndyG
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Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!
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So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.
So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.
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I found the answer to how to install the .cab file, just copy it to your device and select it in file manager, it then install's itself.
If I manage to connect my GTek 2020 to my BT AP with this I'll let you know!
Hi.
I have Orange SPV M1000.
I have tried to get it bonded to a Logitech diNovo keyboard on my PC.
By trying to add it to Settings | Connections | Connections | Advanced | Select Networks | New (internet) | New | (a name : abc, a modem: bluetooth) Next | New... | My_PCs_Name | Next | Name: my_pcs_name |Finish
Then the pops 2 requesters up
1.) This bluetooth device supports Serial port profile, would you like to create a Bluetooth serial port for it? (My answer: both yes or no)
2.) This bluetooth device supports headset profile, would you like to set it as your bluetooth headset? (My answer : No)
I have tried this when Connections | Bluetooth | was set to both "Discoverable" and "On"
but apparantly to no avail.
What I would have liked to work was:
1.) bluetooth activesync
2.) browsing via bluetooth from my PC's connections
3.) filetransfer via bluetooth (might go under activesync)
But I seem unable to get it to work.
Does anyonw have some ideas for this.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards: Jacob Eskildsen / eskildsen
there is no one around here seems to know this
i have been trying to do the exact thing for a few days now, had no joy at all.
there is not even one person using this kind of connection? or just do bother to tell.
I can make PC side working. Internet Connection Sharing bit, and I can even PING my PC from XDAII.
can somebody here help. if you really did this yourself
activesync and internet through bt
I just got activesync and internet working through bt . But I'm not sure how I did it . I have no extra bt software on my phone. I have a usb BT dongle (MSI) and I paired both of the devices. In all the settings I made sure internet sharing was allowed, on the BT network. In activesync in options - rules Pass through is ticked with connection to internet.
On the XDA started activesync through bt and my computer accepted it, and started to sync, the internet then started to work. i think active sync needs to be on for internet to work.
I don't really know the precise instructions, wish I did because i've just lost the connection again, and it will most probably take me another hour to work it out. think this time I better write it down!!!
If you could sync via Bluetooth, then browsing and file transfer via Bluetooth are possible. I've been able to do all of them. Just make sure you choose the ActiveSync profile when you pair your Pocket PC with the Bluetooth device on your desktop PC. If the ActiveSync profile is not available, then choose the Serial Port profile. But afterwards, you would have to go to ActiveSync Connection Settings and manually select the serial port you created.
thanks for advice
I've been having problems, like many people. And I've did what they did. Downloaded bt tools and its working excellent : ). I'm writing this on my xda2, downstairs from my computer. I'm well chuffed. Thanks for your quick reply, it seems your using bt tools too.
Am I ever going to get the hang of this!! BT Activesync ???
I'm able to get Activesync and thus internet through BT, but if I stop bluetooth on my XDA2, and then turn it back on and try to sync, I get an error message, stating Port not available.
What going on? how do I make this port avaliable. I thought I could turn BT on and off without problems, is this not the case. Is my computer configured wrong?
Help!!
Replying to myself!!
OK my problem has been solved, I just turn the BT off and on on my computer.
But what I really want, is to be able to not have to change anysetting on my computer. I would like to be able to enter my house and connect to BT, and then turn it off if I want, and then back on, and then off, on ,off, on..... You get the gist, without have to go upstair to my computer each time.
:twisted:
Any ideas :?
Hi,
Take a look at the guides for bluetooth ActiveSync'ing....
HERE
Thanks
Thank you for that Darius, i'd seen that guide before but forgot where it was. It has helped me to get activesync going anyway. I have actually hard rebooted my XDA2 because my Jabra BT200 stopped working, actually the phone software also buggered up. would ring people but they coud not hear me. Think it may have been BT Tools :roll: Which is a shame, I liked the desktop icons it gave.
At this moment in time I am in the process of restoring my data to my phone over BT, Just hope the BT200, will still work, because before it worked excellent a 100% of the time.
Ive read quite a few threads talking about changing the BT stack, for a more reliable one, but I'm worried about mucking the XDA2 up more.
My next worry is that I've ordered a BT GPS reciever, and I'm gonna try to get Tom Tom working with it, I'm sure I'm gonna have to read quite a few more posts to sort that out. I thought I was good on computers, I think I will have to rethink that altogether.
Finally after eight months of trying, I have managed to get bluetooth working so I can activesync.. the big part of the solution was getting the Logitech Dinovo Media desktop which uses Widdcom software.
However, I understand that people are sharing internet connections with their desktops to look at web pages using bluetooth. How do I do it? I can't seem to get "connections" to give me that option to connect to internet using bluetooth.
By the way.. the dinovo desktop is fab!
Also, it seems that having Widdcom bluetooth wizard on the XDA2 helps a lot.. I can't find anywhere to download it from
Can you access the internet on your device via activesync while it is in the cradle?
If not, this will fix this it in both scenarios:
In activesync
Go to tools > options > rules and enable internet passthrough.
Hope this helps.
Surur
That did it for me - I have been trying to get it to work for a couple of weeks now - thanks[/quote]
I can't find anywhere to download it from
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have you tried searching for it in this forum?
because people have added many different versions of vidcomm stacks in posts in this forums
i think i found 3 or 4 versions of vidcomm last time i searched
blue tooth internet
Gumby - its just occured to me that you may not know (sorry for patronising if you do) there is no connection via bluetooth option - it should just use bluetooth if its connected to PC with internet connected - also try what Surur said - it worked for me
Now ive looked around this site for a BTPAN fix for my phone. Ive tried a fix for another phone with no luck so what im thinkin is maybe a way to install the widcomm stack on my htc, but i cant find a way. I noticed this is a common problem for my phone. Maybe someone can shed some light on the issue. Thanx.
When you say BTPAN are you simply using to pair with other devices or pc? I have a xv6900 with Verizon (WM6.1) and my pairs just fine with any device..including my LINUX EEE PC which I use for bluetooth dialup.
i can pair my device just fine with headsets or laptops, im talking about a bluetooth personal area network. its kinda like a more consistant pairing. it enables you to use active sync via bluetooth, the main reasons i want it are to use my phone as a modem for my laptop via bt, and to use my phone as a gps reciever for my laptop again via gps. ive noticed all sortsa people are having this problem with the vogue and vista. just the other day i found a solution, i havent posted it yet. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=39305&page=2 so here it is.
Great Start
I too am searching for a solution.
I know this has been asked before, but has anyone yet succeeded in connecting an HTC TD2 or T-Mobile Compact V as a Bluetooth modem to a PC running Windows XP? I can ActiveSync via Bluetooth, but that's all.
Need extra command string in bluetooh modem setting.
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","APN"
APN is your ISP access point name.
hungtinglung said:
Need extra command string in bluetooth modem setting.
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","APN"
APN is your ISP access point name.
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I don't follow. Surely the PC needs to see that there is a modem first? Has your PC recognised the bluetooth modem service on the phone?
If your phone is already setup for data access then you don't need any dialing string.
When the PC establishes the BT link it should install the dialup service which will access the phone as a BT modem!
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When the PC establishes the BT link it should install the dialup service which will access the phone as a BT modem!
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"Should" is the operative word. Dialup service as such is not used on WM devices. They use a Personal Area Network (PAN). Anyway, the point is that no services on the phone can be seen by the PC. If I can overcome this hurdle, the rest is plain sailing (or plain surfing?)
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"Should" is the operative word. Dialup service as such is not used on WM devices. They use a Personal Area Network (PAN). Anyway, the point is that no services on the phone can be seen by the PC. If I can overcome this hurdle, the rest is plain sailing (or plain surfing?)
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I use Blue Soleil BT software and the services are installed by it and not Win. May be that's the difference. Do you have any BT client software running?
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I use Blue Soleil BT software and the services are installed by it and not Win. May be that's the difference. Do you have any BT client software running?
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The problem is basically what the WM device is communicating - or not communicating. I have an IBM/Lenovo laptop running XP/SP3 and I cannot find services on the WM device whether I use the Microsoft BT stack or the Lenovo BT stack. I have also tried a separate USB BT dongle with its own drivers without any success. A colleague with Windows 7 (Microsoft BT stack) cannot find services on the WM device either.
Do you see all the services on your phone with the Soleil BT software? I have an old BT dongle that uses BT Soleil.
I think BT on WM devices is a bit shaky. My in-car Parrot hands-free sometimes recognises it as one device and sometimes as another - but surprisingly it works regardless.
Yes, using Internet Connection Sharing [ICS] via Blue Soleil on WXP Prof.
One has to start ICS from the 'phone - it should ask whether to use USB or BT, then (unless your mobile 'phone supplier has forced a fixed choice via a registry entry "ForcedCellConnection") allow you to specify the connection to use (eg Internet) then it will advise to go to PC and click on BT PAN.