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'Phone' always off after reboot on my Vario II

Hi,
Lately the phone side of my T-Mobile Vario II is alays off after I turn it off and then on. I have to manually start it from the Comms Manager.
It was fine when I first got it.
Any ideas? Is there a Registry setting I can check?
Thanks.

Hi,
I have the same problem too. Hope sombody can find a solution to it.
cheers

Make comm manager an exception in whatever task manager (magic button, InClose, ....) you have installed.

I have the same problem and I don't have any of the task managers installed....

Same issue here. It doesn't seem to be related to close app exception lists either since mine only recently started exhibiting this issue and I've had spb pocket plus installed since I upgraded to the 1.31 Cingular ROM with no close exceptions defined. My first TyTN started doing it too.
Interestingly, pressing reset doesn't have the same effect: the radio comes right up then. Every night spb backup plus resets my device after the backup and I've never had an issue. Therefore, I believe it has something to do with the power-off shutdown process itself. In support of this, I've noticed that when I press "Yes" on the shutdown dialog, the first thing that happens is the radio shuts off. Then, about 5 seconds later the device shuts off.
What I've done so far is to add Conmgr.exe to SPB pocket plus' close app exception list. I'll see if this affects anything. IIRC there were a few more apps that needed adding too. I'm hunting those down right now.
edit:
hmmm.... after adding conmgr.exe to the close exception list, the phone came right up when I tried a powercycle. Either this fixes it or its intermittent. Perhaps spb does an explicit close on all open apps when you try to power off and this is somehow affecting the phone mode when conmgr starts back up.

Hi, are you all referring to flight mode being on when the phone reboots?
I know I have had an issue where after I install some apps that when I reboot flight mode will be on, and it will keep doing this, I also noticed that if I just soft reset it wouldn't happen, the trick I have found to get it workin again was to use the always on settings with the fit4cat tweaker, and usually once or a couple times of setting like gprs always on of off, and a softresetting that it will fix the flight mode being on problem...I'm not sure if you all are talkin about the same thing and this really isn't pinpointing the fix, but I thought this info might help atleast one persons aggrivation..cause I'm sure I can't be the only one with the flight mode problem.
I don't use spb btw, well I use spb backup, but have had the problem arise after I installed wmirc and netfront for example.
I never use the comm manager, I just click the signal by the time in the taskbar and it says flight mode is on, I just realized it is likely the same problem.
edit: I had the problem arise again and can't figure out how to fix it, even tried a registry restore.

Not a Fix but a Working Solution
I started having the issue of the radio being off on startup a few weeks ago.
So I invested($10) in a copy of SK Softwares Scheduling Manager SKScheMa.
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sksc..._skschema.html
This has a powerful scripting language and one of the script commands is "GPRS on"
I created a shortcut in the startup folder to a GPRS On script. and since then I have had no more problems.

Another workaround (free)
This problem recently started to affect my Cing 8525, as well. I don't know if this has been already resolved, but my solution was to DL this little freebee named FlightMode v1.1.0 (Thanks to Cristiano Severini) from here:
http://www .winmobileapps.com /device/pocketpc/fm/fm .aspx
I've only tested it so far with one reboot, but it seems to work around whatever bug there is in WM5 ... as long as you don't mind CommManager flashing on the screen for an instant at bootup, and then having it running in the background (too bad it doesn't do a full close of CM).
I installed this app, and then created a shortcut and placed it into the \Windows\Startup directory. Seems to do the trick nicely.
Hope you find it useful.
[EDIT: Further tests have shown me that Comm Manager does NOT flash on the screen briefly, nor remain loaded. Seems that had something to do with PhoneAlarm, instead. Personally, I think this might be a good solution to this particular problem.]
[EDIT2: Ok, further tests of Fightmode showed me that this was merely a toggle, and in cases where the phone was ON after a reboot, Flightmode shut it off. Nice little program, but this issue made me look at the SKScheMa mentioned by paulbacik. What a powerful tool! I agree, that $9.60US is a bit expensive just to have the phone/radio on after a reboot, but I feel this app has some wonderful potential. So I plunked down the cash and registered it after a day of testing. Does the trick VERY nicely! Thanks Paul!]

Aha... I think I have found the problem...
Ms Voice Command v1.60 does it for me. As soon as I install it the phone won't start at boot up. Remove it and the problem is gone.
Wonder if everyone else with this problem has VC installed.

Nope ... not VC
Thanks for the attempt, Essef, but VC is one of the few apps I haven't (yet) installed. I'm leaning towards it being related to (in my case) Wi-Fi Compnion. I'm going to reinstall that this weekend, and see if my problem resurfaces. Hopefully not, since I like the app (and paid for it).
FWIW, I am also now using the SK ScheMa "fix", and I like it a lot. It never fails on startup, and I aim to use it ... and PPL a lot to customize/personalize my 8525.
Best regards,
-pvs
[UPDATE] OK, so far, so good. I reinstalled Wi-Fi Companion last night, and it worked pretty well. Actually, my 8525 froze the first time, and I needed to hard-reset (thank GOD for SPB Backup!). But, not being one who gives-up easily, I tried it again, and it installed flawlessly. I've been using it on-and-off today, and so far, my phone still boots without the "The Operation Failed" error messages I was seeing before. Mind you, I have done quite a bit of tinkering since the last time I had the problem, going from ROM version 1.34.502.1 to 2.06.502.3 after SuperCIDing and SIM Unlocking the device, so maybe all of this stuff made a difference.
At any rate, I will post to this thread again should anything change with regard to this issue.
-pvs
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After a bit of experimention I found a fix for Voice Command causing this on my Jasjam.
It seemed to occur as soon as I assigned VC to the 5th button (which was Cyberon's Voice Dialer) - then no radio after reboot.
So I tried removing the sddaemon shortcut in the startup folder (this starts the Cyberon service), rebooted then assigned VC to button 5 and now the radio satrts everytime I reboot.
I guess with the Cyberon service running and assigned to button 5, reassigning the button caused the device to get confused and not start the radio.

My Wizard has multiple bugs, need help solving

I understand that this forum is filled with developers. So I am hoping for some informed help. If you have any of these same problems please respond as well. I would like to know if these are isolated to my setup
I migrated from a cel phone and a PPC running WM2003/2003se. Mainly for the converged device, but also for the persistent storage. I run a small business, and and am very busy and rely on my phone and schedule all day everyday.
I have only had the wizard (MDA) for about 3 weeks and experienced odd problems since the first weekhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
. Unfortunately I did not buy new, so I am not sure if any of these are covered by warranty or not... I am just going to list the problems:
1) If I leave my phone plugged in at night to charge than by the time I wake up the phone will not come out of standby. I have to press the soft reset button to get the unit to work again. This happens intermittently
2) I use an alarm program so that the unit acts like an alarm clock. If the phone is plugged in at night, and does not experience problem number 1, than the alarm just won't go off. I turn on the phone and the alarm program is open, but it did nothing. If the phone is not plugged in than the alarm works fine.
3) Soft buttons. I have the registry set to remap what the soft buttons do. I use Agenda Fusion (Latest Version) so i have them set to open the calendar and the contacts to Agenda Fusions view of them. This works most of the time. On occasion the soft buttons just stop working except for running through the menus for reminders.....
4)The other day i went to take a photo, the camera said that it could not proceed because there was not enough memory. At the time I had 30 megs of storage free, about 12 megs of program free and about 900 meg left on my sd card...
5) Every so often the unit won't launch a program, it says that the exe is unsigned or not trusted. It works every other time though.
6) I use cLaunch. Every so often cLaunch disappears from the today screen. The only wat to get it to reappear is to remove it from the today screen from the today items menu, wait a couple of seconds and then return it to the today screen.
7) Every so often the unit stops recognizing the sd card..have to remove and re-insert
8) I use reminders for all my calender and to do items. Occasionally the reminder will go off for a certain item 24 hours in advance, even though the setting is correct in the item...
I feel like I am missing a few problems. But you get might point, WM5 is weird. All of the above can be corrected with a soft reset. But sometimes the problems show up multiple times a day. Causing me to have to soft reset in the most inconvenient times, several times a day.http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
I did not have these problems under WM2003. I have a friend who uses a Verzion phone that is similar to the wizard (made by a different company though, not HTC...it has an external antennae and that is where the stylus is stored as well) She and I were comparing phones today. Hers runs WM5 but she said that she has never experienced any of these problems in the 1 year that she has owned hers...
Is this an HTC Wizard problem? A WM5 problem with the wizards? Would it help if i installed on of the alternate roms that I read about here on XDA developers? I am considering a hard reset and starting from scratch but I don't want to go that route unless it is the only way. And if I do, I may just use one of those roms.....What does everybody think?http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Sorry for the long winded post....

Seems like a software problem based on (1) and (2). Is the ROM an official ROM?

Re:
Hello Hanmin Thanks for responding,
Re Number 1. I just saw that some one else posted with that problem. So I will see if they have they same alarm program installed. I have wondered if everything is software related. Thats why I am hoping to see if others are having these types of problems, and if so, what programs they are using...
Re the rom...yes it the official T-mobile release, version listed in my sig.
Thanks again

New problem
I have just encountered a new problem:
While picking up my voice mail the system would not register my button pushes. Weather on screen or the hardware buttons. I could not interact with voice mail, nor could I end the call with the hardware button or the soft button....I had to reset the phone to end the call!!
How frustrating is that

Have you tried reflashing the original ROM? Being a used phone that would be the first thing I would do. It's going to wipe out all your data and return it to an "out of box" state, so i suggest backing up anything important and sync to your PC. If that doesn't work then you have a hardware issue but I'm willing to bet that should take care of it. You can find the original ROM on HTP's website. Good Luck

Thank you
Thanks for that suggestion....I am hoping to not go down that road, if I can help it. But I will do it if there are no other options. So If I may ask: How many votes does re flashing old Rom Get? And are there any other ideas?
Again Thanks. I am going to download the rom in case it does come to that....

wait...the phone dosen't wake up unless you push the small button on the top of the phone? That is not the default setting on the MDA, however it's acting naturally. Our phones go on a standby to save power. Click the battery icon in the lower right hand corner-->Click the Advanced tab--> uncheck Turn off device on external power

Misunderstanding....
When the phone is plugged in over night and reaches %100 charge some times it won't "Wake Up" even hitting the power button on top. The only thing that will turn it on is the "Soft Reset" button on the right side, beneath the IR sensor.

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It sounds like you have software problems - possible a corrupt notification queue - personally i would do a hard reset of the device - probably in the process of this i would soft reset before the t-mobile extras install - taking details of gprs, mms settings before this.
I would run the phone without installing software to see that its not a hardware problem. Then reinstall programs one by one and see how it goes. Some software like claunch is not made for wm5 so expect some glitches (i use claunch and get occ glitch)
If you dont want to hard reset check the notification queue for duplicates and rogue scripts using check notifications - attached - install via pc. Dont delete notifications important for system running - common duplicates are clock\calendar.

alarm problems
Hi,
frankly i had similar issues - less critical but annoying: alarm clock not waking me up, slow system, notification queue mess, difficult resets, camera issues, bluetooth a2dp skipping. I upgraded my Qtek multiple times, and finally i can say that 2.26 roms (i use molski's) are exceptionally stable and reliable. The problem is not Wm5, the problem is how buggy many released versions are. So, my suggestion: look to the forum, find roms that appear to have a reliable history, cross your fingers and...upgrade. Then, resist in upgrading to any rom that just came out and appear to be faster, cooler, nicer. Unless you have an issue to be solved, and you see 100 messages confirming that the rom is stable and does the job...

Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again

cameraddict said:
Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again
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Write them down manually its the safest way - there are cabs available but often dont work.
GPRS - settings\connections\connections\manage existing connectons - settings should be here prob named t-mobile
MMS - go into messages\menu\options\MMS\servers click on prob t mobile again.

Thanks again!

ameo freeze every day serveral times

Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Hi tvrman.
For starters, install Sprite backup (on one of the CD's you got with the Ameo). This will eradicate the need for a full install after a hard reset in the future!
I suggest you do a full hard reset anyway then install Sprite Backup utility.
Only put back your essential apps one by one with 1/2 a days gap between each installation and test the turn off turn on function.
Be sure to use the supplied X-Button application to ensure you properly clode apps down after you're finished with them....or use Wisbar Advance 2, which will do it for you....except for Active Sync (this will always remain active unless shut down manually in memory menu).
I have not once suffered the problem you have in over a months use of the Ameo....might be a faulty unit or a buggy ROM. What version ROM are you using?
Anyway, if all goes well over the next 3 days, do a full backup and save a copy to your storage card or micro drive and be sure to copy a copy over to your PC...that should future peoof you having to do a full install again in the future. And be sure only to back up, if you have no problems with the device and the problems you mentioned earlier. Otherwise you will allways restore the bugs in the device after a hard reset.
Hope this helps. keep us updated on how you get on.

Mackaby007
thanks for you professional answer, i was not aware that spd backup
was on the cd which was delivered at the ameo.
Well yesterday i found out that one of the programs (profimail)
which i'm using serveral times a day for my mail, that this is the problem
I found out that yesterday i didn't use profimail but the built in mail the
whole day and the ameo did not freeze at all the whole day
tried to turn it off an on the whole day and no problems at all,
yesterday late i start profimail and check serveral mails, i close profimail
and turn the device off, later turn it on and a black screen it would not
turn on
After soft reset everthing works.
So i will check today again without using profimail and see what's happends
again.
i'll let you know....

hi,
I had the same problem.
My solution was to format the mini-sd card.
So what i did:
1. copied all data on de minisd in a cardreader to a directory on pc
2. Formatted (not quick) the minisd
3. Copied all data back to the minisd.

All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Have you got a password to lock your phone try removing that see if it still locks , i was having the same issue

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert
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No such issue here! WA2 runs like a dream on my Ameo...even better than it did on my Hermes or Prophet! I'm using the 2.8.0.2 version of WA2 without WAD.

WA2 + WAD
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?

skin
iPhone skin ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Software/iPhone.rar
I use a lot of apps. I also use the following plugins on WAD:
SPB Diary
Profiles for Windows Mobile
Windows Life Messenger

QAN said:
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?
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I'll give the skin a test run in an hour, but I refuse to use plug-ins again. They have always caused me problems, but WA2 never has. What version were you running?

Tried the i-phone skin and have experienced no issues whatsoever.
Maybe the Problem is WAD and your plug-ins.

WAD keep on giving problems like this...it's a sin for such an interesting application...here it is because I gave up to use it.

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
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I did some searching and found some suggestions it might be the skin I was using. I changed the skin and no more freezing.
Robert

trayap.exe
Since I removed the trayap.exe from the init part of the registry I did not have any freezing anymore. I will try WA2 again to see if this solves my problem.
By the way, I am using the latest beta's of WA2 and WAD

hi all
i find that if i use the off button to turn off the backlight whilst media player is running it jams the machine, requiring a reboot. i know that i can usethe light button on the keyboard but i sometimes forget that media player is running (ie. paused).

I have the same freezing problem now after a few weeks of usage.
The device was running very nicely but now, without installing anything further or adding anything to the device, it freezes randomly.
It likes to freeze when the backlight goes off, while I play MP3 files or have a phone conversation using bluetooth.
In the past 4 days I have softreset the device no less than 81 times.
I suspect the Microdrive is to blame. Is it sensitive to movement?
I will remove all my software and other files from the microdrive and see if things improve.
In the mean time, has anyone else experienced random and frequent freezing?
Oh, I have the Dopod U1000 branded device with the latest firmware.

ok, I had it with this. 16 more soft resets within 4 hours.
I hard reset the device. So far I see no random freezing, but I didn't install anything extra yet except ozVGA and VJBigPhone. And both of them on the internal memory, so nothing on the microdrive.

QWERTY Keyboard Not Always Working

Lately I've had problems with my QWERTY keyboard not always working. It will work fine, then one time I will pull it out and stop typing and text doesn't appear. I have to reset the device in order to get it working again. Usually when it is not working, I can use the on-screen keyboard, but this is such a hassle and much slower. There have been a couple times when that wouldn't work either.
Has anyone else noticed this issue? I've been using CRCs ROM (the first ROM I installed). If it sounds like it might be a ROM issue and not a device or WM6 issue, does anyone have any ROM recommendations? I do not need a lot of features - just the basics will do as I intend to install SPB Mobile Shell and a couple other programs anyways, but I do desire something very stable.

I have the same problem occasionally... two different ways
Sometimes the program will stop taking text input. For example while typing a text mesage the keyboard will stop working, but if I hit the windows key the start menu will still appear. I have to kill the text messaging program and re launch to regain functionality. Also happens occasionally in IE.
Other times the keyboard itself will stop working, all of the buttons. In this case I have to close the phone, power the screen off for a couple seconds, power back on, and begin typing again.
It's very strange, and very unpredictable.
<edit> I have a Cingular 8525 (1.5 years old) running Schap's 4.31 WM6 </edit>

ifiweresolucky said:
I have the same problem occasionally... two different ways
Sometimes the program will stop taking text input. For example while typing a text mesage the keyboard will stop working, but if I hit the windows key the start menu will still appear. I have to kill the text messaging program and re launch to regain functionality. Also happens occasionally in IE.
Other times the keyboard itself will stop working, all of the buttons. In this case I have to close the phone, power the screen off for a couple seconds, power back on, and begin typing again.
It's very strange, and very unpredictable.
<edit> I have a Cingular 8525 (1.5 years old) running Schap's 4.31 WM6 </edit>
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I don't send very many text messages so I'm not sure about those, but I usually notice using IE (that is the main place where I type anything) or inputting a new contact or something like that. I'm not sure about the windows key, although I think I tested a bunch of buttons and none of them worked.
Think it is a bug in the phone or a bug in the ROM? I have no idea...I've only used one ROM so far on 8525 (I tested a bunch out on the 8125 when I had one). I'm thinking about installing Binkys11 since I hear it is fast and stable. Maybe it won't be as big of a problem then.
Note: I also have a case with a magnetic strap. I thought maybe that was messing with it since I hear the magnet could do funny things to the phone...I'm not sure though....

Keyboard not appearing

Hi,
Ive searched but cant find an answer or that it even happens to anyone else.
Recently reformatted my phone, running out of RAM to clean it up.
It now runs great except now after about 5-10 sms's being received when i go to reply, no keyboard appears. The symbol is below but normally when you tap to type, nothing happens.
This is for Swype, Touchpal and even the standard keyboard. This applies for sms's or anything that requires to type.
Only resolution for me at the moment is having to soft reset all the time then its good for a few more sms's.
Only occured since i reloaded everything after a hard reset but the phone runs great, only installed what i had previously so no new software.
Any ideas?

Guess im alone on this one. Well if anyone else ever has the same prob, i discovered it was Swype v3.9. Never had problems before but now ive hard reset the phone to clean things up, fresh install things, it is causing problems.
According to other forums, v3.9 is very buggy so reverted back to v2.0 from the Omnia and its working great.

I have same problem.
I have installed: Resco Keyboard, Swype, and TouchPal. I usually use Resco; I can have sessions since a soft boot using ONLY Resco, then eventually the keyboard will refuse to appear after tapping the icon. Thus, the problem was not triggered by either of the other two keyboard apps.
Like you, my only remedy has been to soft boot. This is usually good for a few days before the keyboard is forever hidden.
(Still no permanent solution ...)