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MS Reader for O2 Mini/ I-mate Jam

Hi All,
Does anyone have MS Reader installed in their devices? My Mini didn't come with a Reader, so went and installed the latest version of Reader from the Microsoft site. But doesn't work properly. It doesn't appear properly in the Programs folder and when I click on it all I get is an error message.
Please help! Need to carry e-Books in my Mini.
Thanks,
Bree

Hi bree. I installed ms reader on my mini and it's working fine. I also downloaded it from msn. Maybe you should uninstall it, re-download the installer and try installing it again. HTH.

Thanks Rocket will try to do that

By any chance did you install it in the Card rather than main memory??
if so browse to the Reader folder in the Sd card and create a new shortcut. Then move this shortcut to the windows\start menu folder.
after this remember to move all the font files from the reader folder into the windows\fonts folder (or redirect the folder to another folder in sd card)
it should work... mine is!

I too had the same problem as Bree coz i had installed Reader to the Storage Card. But did the same things as said by ill-tempered and it worked fine from then on

Illtempered were you able to activate your MSReader after redoing the shortcut and moving the fonts. I redid the shortcut but did not move the fonts so i was wondering if i need to maybe move the fonts to activate. Thanks.

elcaro said:
I too had the same problem as Bree coz i had installed Reader to the Storage Card. But did the same things as said by ill-tempered and it worked fine from then on
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Glad to hear it worked

jeeb75 said:
Illtempered were you able to activate your MSReader after redoing the shortcut and moving the fonts. I redid the shortcut but did not move the fonts so i was wondering if i need to maybe move the fonts to activate. Thanks.
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no I haven't managed...
I had activated my old 2002 device and lost the activation file too... but anway

Same here. I too cannot activate MS Reader.
I tried to , from my PC after connecting my mini to it. But is said, device not found .

What if you place the Dll files in the reader directory back into windows??
sorry but I wont be doing this as I don't really need to activate it...

GPRS Monitor

I cannot install GPRS Monitor from myO2 CD, it says i need to update my ROM, i did a corporate install btw
Anyone else had any probs?

Another forum member had this same problem when installing the ClearVuePDF Reader also supplied by o2 as part of the HTC application suite. He has the MDA, but flashed with the o2 Exec ROMs and then installed in Corporate mode.
From work we did together, it appears to be just the install program that was not validating his device. When I tried a hard-reset and Corporate mode install, I had no problems installing. However, its beginning to look as though a hard-reset does not totally clear the Exec's memory. In his case, I found all the individual files and registry settings needed for ClearVuePDF to run and he copied those to the device. Runs perfectly for him like that.
So I'm afraid you'll have to find somebody with the o2 version of GPSMonitor installed and get them to determine all the files/locations and registry-settings needed to get it to run. Unfortunately I don't have a GPRS connection or GPRSMonitor installed.
Just a thought. Have you yet tried a full o2 Personal mode install on your device? It just might be this action that puts 'something' in memory that is not cleared by a hard-reset, and that 'something' might be what the install program is looking for.
Sorry that I can't be more helpful.

No problem thanks for your help

dazzled said:
I cannot install GPRS Monitor from myO2 CD, it says i need to update my ROM, i did a corporate install btw
Anyone else had any probs?
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I did a basic install and I get the same error. Sorry, Not much help though.
Daz

Me too. The ClearVuew PDF reader is rubbish! Text misalighed all over - Adobe with pixel doubling is better than this.

Please try this
Could one of you having a problem to install the o2 supplied GPRSMonitor, please try installing the attached .CAB after copying it to your device.
This CAB is extracted from the CD-ROM install program, so hopefully skips the validation stuff. With luck you might be able to get around the failed validation by installing from this CAB.
Note: Even if asked to install to Storage Card, the o2 supplied version (2.3.0 build 600) puts very little there, most goes into device memory. The current version 2.41 from spb will obey the instruction to install to SD-Card, but wasn't reliable when run from there - the monitoring part aborted four times in 10-minutes whilst I was playing with it.
Unfortunately, since I don't have the install problem, I can't test this install out.

It works a treat. Thanks muchly!

Ward said:
It works a treat. Thanks muchly!
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Am I glad about that - I was in the midst of trying to locate all the files/registry entries needed for a manual install.
Perhaps I can go to bed now! :wink:

I also managed to 'locate' another copy and it works fine, thanks for all the help.

astage said:
However, its beginning to look as though a hard-reset does not totally clear the Exec's memory.
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I can confirm this but with other files. After several hard resets (even with the clear storage icon), the pictures I had taken were still there.

Tron_Of_Borg said:
astage said:
However, its beginning to look as though a hard-reset does not totally clear the Exec's memory.
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I can confirm this but with other files. After several hard resets (even with the clear storage icon), the pictures I had taken were still there.
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Ouch! I didn't realsie it was as bad as that.
The situation is made worse by the backup program I'm using (Sunnysoft Backup Manager) not backing up all the data and settings. Neither does it perform a true restore - just merges the backup with what's there after the hard-reset.
Unfortunately, I'm used to HP's backup applet from the Jornada 928; which performed a total backup/flush restore. Are there any other applets for WM5/universal that really performs a full backup/restore?

Does anyone have this cab please? I have just bought a new O2 exec and am having the same problem with it saying my ROM version is too old!!

sorry ignore that post! Work computer blocked the file out

I am running my XDA EXEC in basic mode. When I tried copying the .cab file to my device and running it from there , still get the problem.
Any suggestions ?
I was running personal mode then switched to basic mode, could this cause the problem.
Thanks for you replies in advance.

Cannot remove GPRS monotr app
I installed this file to test it out om M3000. Unfortuntely I cannot seem to uninstall it now! It doesnt show up in my Program list - How do you uninstall it?
I looked in the \\windows folder and removed all files and shoretcuts I could find, but its still showing up on my 'today' screen with an error.
Any ideas? The registry?
Cheers
rob

Linuxgeek:
I was also getting the ROM version problem installing programs to my SD card on my O2 exec. Since I'd only just added the card and was running the basic installation, I did the following:
1) Hard reset
2) Personal Install
3) Re-install ActiveSync on PC
This did the trick. Thankfully I like the Personal install best anyway, but I don't know if that step was necessary.

Tried it. Still get the problem :-(

My mistake - I managed to install the Clearvue PDF program, not the GPRS monitor program. I'm still getting the ROM version error with the GPRS monitor program, but I've not tried the above download yet.

Anyone got any other ideas to fix this problem.
Shame O2 don't have an update to fix this problem on their website.

I've now tried the CAB posted above by astage and I can confirm it worked for me. Just copy the CAB to your device and then open it to start the install.

Lousy Bloated Microsoft Crap Again .NET Compact Framework v2

Hi
I just found a piece of software that claims to backup WM5 contacts it is 'ns contacts backup' from http://www.nyxbull.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=10
Anyway, I have had to install .NET Compact Framework v2.0, another 'Microsoft Bloater' that forced me to remove programs from memory to install it as it wanted nearly 6MB of main memory.
Anyway I have it installed now, do I need to keep it on my Hard Drive? This lousy piece of software installs just "one 5MB CAB file", yet it takes 91.0MB of Hard Drive space, and demands over 130MB to install itself, all for a 5MB CAB file.
Does anyone know which CAB it actually installs, I could not make out the full name on my Phone during install?
I was just wondering, after Hard Reset can .NET Compact Framework v2.0, be reinstalled by a local CAB file on the storage card, rather than using this bloated installer again?
Thanks

This lousy piece of software installs just "one 5MB CAB file", yet it takes 91.0MB of Hard Drive space, and demands over 130MB to install itself, all for a 5MB CAB file.
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It's Micro$oft - what did you expect? :lol:

Sorry I can't answer you question regarding cab name since I am avoiding .NET CF like fire.
I am sure though that if you find the cab you can use it to install after hard reset.
Try this:
Start the installer, while ActiveSync asks you if to install to default location go to ActiveSync folder on your PC (probably in program files) and look for a cab (any cab) it should be there, or at least an *.ini file that contains the path to it (maybe the cab is in temp folder).
As for backing up contacts, there is a simple and painless way that doesn't require any installation.
In the built in file explorer select "show all files" option. Then in the root of the device you will see a file named 'pim.vol'. Just copy that to your SD.
Also I read that the new version of .NET CF 2.1 lets you install most of it on SD to save memory, but like I said I didn't try it and I don't recommend it either.

levenum said:
Sorry I can't answer you question regarding cab name since I am avoiding .NET CF like fire.
I am sure though that if you find the cab you can use it to install after hard reset.
Try this:
Start the installer, while ActiveSync asks you if to install to default location go to ActiveSync folder on your PC (probably in program files) and look for a cab (any cab) it should be there, or at least an *.ini file that contains the path to it (maybe the cab is in temp folder).
As for backing up contacts, there is a simple and painless way that doesn't require any installation.
In the built in file explorer select "show all files" option. Then in the root of the device you will see a file named 'pim.vol'. Just copy that to your SD.
Also I read that the new version of .NET CF 2.1 lets you install most of it on SD to save memory, but like I said I didn't try it and I don't recommend it either.
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Thanks for that, the contacts were the only thing stopping me Hard Resetting and reinstalling. I have spent the past few weeks installing and uninstalling trying different software and settings to get the phone the way I want it. Now I have everything, I can reset and install everything fresh, that should then be my phone finished, until something else catches my eye.

Sorry forgot to say, so what is the purpose of Outlook with relation to this phone?
As I said, it does not pick up the phone as a device or drive, and activesync says it cannot be used for backing up contacts, so what purpose does it serve?
Seems pointless to me, would have been better if Microsoft built in some proper contact management software, after all this device was designed for business use.

NewSPV said:
Sorry forgot to say, so what is the purpose of Outlook with relation to this phone?
As I said, it does not pick up the phone as a device or drive, and activesync says it cannot be used for backing up contacts, so what purpose does it serve?
Seems pointless to me, would have been better if Microsoft built in some proper contact management software, after all this device was designed for business use.
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The fact that ActiveSync synchronizes contacts between the device and OutLook means that your contacts ARE backed up. Well that may be how they (M$) see it any way.

TheBrit said:
NewSPV said:
Sorry forgot to say, so what is the purpose of Outlook with relation to this phone?
As I said, it does not pick up the phone as a device or drive, and activesync says it cannot be used for backing up contacts, so what purpose does it serve?
Seems pointless to me, would have been better if Microsoft built in some proper contact management software, after all this device was designed for business use.
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The fact that ActiveSync synchronizes contacts between the device and OutLook means that your contacts ARE backed up. Well that may be how they (M$) see it any way.
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But I am not getting anything in Outlook. It is just sitting there doing nothing, when I look down the device list my phone is not there, so how do I use it?
Thanks

Hi again
I have been doing some more digging and I have found that the CAB required is 'NETCFv2.wm.armv4i.cab', this CAB is 2.13 MB (2,240,512 bytes), so Microsoft requires over 130 MB to install itself, and hogs 91.0 MB (95,473,664 bytes) of Hard Drive space for a 2.13 MB CAB.
I found this info on http://blogs.msdn.com/netcfteam/archive/2005/10/11/479793.aspx
To save everyone the trouble I had, I tried uploading the CAB but for some reason it is not being accepted on this post, all I am getting is sending request to forum, nothing is happening. If it is wanted I will try again later.

Doesn't the latest version of .NET CF allow you to install into Storage or Storage Card?

Ultimate Chicken said:
Doesn't the latest version of .NET CF allow you to install into Storage or Storage Card?
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I thought so. I had over 80MB left on my storage card, I selected storage card, but it kept giving me an error message saying I did not have enough main storage. I had to remove programs to install it, all I wanted to do was backup my contacts. Thanks to flaming Microsoft again, we get a business phone where you can not manage contacts. Microsoft the company that can never get anything right and makes Bill Gates the richest man in history, you couldn't make up such a story, could you?

Ultimate Chicken said:
Doesn't the latest version of .NET CF allow you to install into Storage or Storage Card?
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I thought so. I had over 80MB left on my storage card, I selected storage card, but it kept giving me an error message saying I did not have enough main storage. I had to remove programs to install it, all I wanted to do was backup my contacts. Thanks to flaming Microsoft again, we get a business phone where you can not manage contacts. Microsoft the company that can never get anything right and makes Bill Gates the richest man in history, you couldn't make up such a story, could you?

Why are my posts being sent twice?
I only submit once.

Little explanation about ActiveSync and Outlook:
Your device doesn't appear anywhere as a separate ... anything.
You get a folder in file explorer that lets you browse the device, but that's it.
As for Outlook, everything that is in there and you choose to sync is copied to the Outlook on the phone and viceversa.
You can choose to sync contacts, appointments, mail, notes and tasks. You can choose how far back the device will save mails and appointments to save space. You can also sync directly with an exchange server if you got one.
So just to be clear, you sync the stuff you got, there is no separation.

No voices in TomTom 6

Hi folks,
Just got my Ameo, and am thrilled with it, just getting mildly frustrated with TT6. I copied all the files over to the MicroDrive and ran the cabs, installed to Device (also tried Microdrive) and ran TT. However, although the program seems to be working great, it won't see any voices installed. Any ideas? The Voices directory is in the same place as all the other TomTom files i.e. the root directory of the Microdrive. Thanks!
Fin

I found this problem initially - I think I ended up having to reinstall the cab with the voices in to get it working. Mine are now in \MicroDrive2\Voices
Either that, or a complete uninstall/reinstall did the trick.
N.B, I don't have two microdrives, WM5 got a bit confused and I think WM5torage didn't unload itself properly or something like that, and renamed the drive as 2. I've seen it before with SD Cards.

Thanks - on your advice managed to dig out my old copy of TT 4.4 as I knew it had separate cab files for voices. Installed the right one and Jane was happily talking to me again Thanks for the input! Shame it won't pick up all my other voices tho - I don't have a voices cab for TT6.
Fin

Ahh, I use the Auzzie Guy, just wish he used 'Mate' and 'Golar' and 'Barbie' and the like. I think the first "build" I used wasn't complete , but a second "downloaded build" did . Its v6.010 that I'm currently running.

had the same problem...
i found i had the same problem, this is what i did;
1- there is a voices directory on your phones memory, program files, navigator, voices, try copyin them from your microdrive to your phone memory
or
2- when you go to the voices section in the tomtom application, when it asks to 'only show english voices' select no.
my john cleese and yoda voices now appear, hope this helps.

TT
There are two type of installations.
1. Tou have the SD card installation version and
2. You have the PC installation version.
From TT 6 and upwards the PC installation version is disapearing. This version needed to see the voice files properly installaed. It used the registry to find the files. For this version you need to install the voice cabs form the source disks.
The SD card version looks at your storage card and searches for the voices directory. When this directory is there and you cannot see te voice files, delete the collected.ini file. When you start up TT again it will search for voice files.
Still there is a possibility you cannot see them. I had this probem because I have an miniSD card in my devices. I noticed that TT had made several directories on the card including the voices directory with the file collected.ini. Throwing away the TT directories on my miniSD card solved my problem.

Digital.Diablo said:
Mine are now in \MicroDrive2\Voices
Either that, or a complete uninstall/reinstall did the trick.
N.B, I don't have two microdrives, WM5 got a bit confused and I think WM5torage didn't unload itself properly or something like that, and renamed the drive as 2. I've seen it before with SD Cards.
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My microdrive has also ended up as MicroDrive2, stopping all my programs I installed on the Microdrive working.
I have never used WM5Storage.
Its a tad annoying as I guess all I can do is reinstall all my programs again.

mardibloke said:
My microdrive has also ended up as MicroDrive2, stopping all my programs I installed on the Microdrive working.
I have never used WM5Storage.
Its a tad annoying as I guess all I can do is reinstall all my programs again.
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please tell us what machine you are using, HTC advantage? T-mobile Ameo? or DOPOD U1000.

HTC advantage

mardibloke said:
My microdrive has also ended up as MicroDrive2, stopping all my programs I installed on the Microdrive working.
I have never used WM5Storage.
Its a tad annoying as I guess all I can do is reinstall all my programs again.
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I don't think you need to reinstall your programs. Try doing a soft reset. I have encountered the Microdrive2 thing before (but not because of WM5Storage), and a soft reset restored everything back to normal.

Looks like something created a folder called MicroDrive on my main storage (its got mail inbox folder in it), and hence the real MicroDrive got renamed to MicroDrive2.
I wonder if real MicroDrive stopped working for a little while and hence device automatically created a new MicroDrive folder on main storage.
Soft resets did not fix it, however renaming the MicroDrive folder to something else, on main storage, and then a soft reset, and real MicroDrive got renamed back to normal.
Will post if it happens again, but at least have found a simple way to fix it if it happens again.

I believe you have enabled the Messaging plugin in your Today screen? That is the most likely culprit, based on my past experiences.

That makes sense, I disabled message plugin to take some screen shots, and then re-enabled it.

Reading on TomTom I remember running across an article that recommended deleting some INI file for TomTom which would cause TomTom to rescan for voices. This was a common problem. I think it's on the TomTom support site. I can't really remember where I read it though.

I had this problem.
Ensure TT is closed
Move the VOICES folder and ZIP (if you have the 7 digit postal code) from the route of the SD card to \program files\navigator and restart.
Problem solved.
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If you want to keep the files on the SD card (which is slower) then delete the collected.ini file at \program files\navigator\voices , and also the voices folder from there, and it will re-search for them, hopefully finding them on the SD card

Is there a hawaii map for tomtom6???
I got one for 5, but can't get it to work on the 6...
also, there is no hawaii map for download off the site when you can download your first map.

Tomtom and voice
Hi
To solve this problem follow this steps
explore the device's staorage area where you copied the Tomtom (whether Microdrive or Mini Sdcard)
Inside there you will see the Tomtom folder and the map folders.
open the Tomtom folder and cut the Voice folder and Paste on to the same drive's Root.
Eg: Device/microdrive or Device/storagecard
Do the same for the Zip folder which is also inside the tomtom folder.
Basically Tomtom only looking for the voice and zip files from root of the Storage card, Microdrive and my documents folder of the Device.
You have to choose where to put it.
Good luck guys

Reinstalling programs after hard reset.

Yesterday my phone locked me out, after charging it wouldn't accept my password & I had to do a hard reset.
Most of my utils/progs etc were installed to my memory card & I can use file manager to locate them & run them by running the exe file.
Is there any way of getting them onto the main screen without having to delete & then reinstall them - it looks like it's just the program shortcuts which haved been deleted.
Is it possibe to make new shortcuts & place them on the 'start' screen?
I read in a similar post that pocket mechanic might do something like this - would it, or is there another way?
Thanks.

miffy93 said:
Yesterday my phone locked me out, after charging it wouldn't accept my password & I had to do a hard reset.
Most of my utils/progs etc were installed to my memory card & I can use file manager to locate them & run them by running the exe file.
Is there any way of getting them onto the main screen without having to delete & then reinstall them - it looks like it's just the program shortcuts which haved been deleted.
Is it possibe to make new shortcuts & place them on the 'start' screen?
I read in a similar post that pocket mechanic might do something like this - would it, or is there another way?
Thanks.
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just use resco file explorer...go into your memory card directory and copy the exe, then go to my device>windows>start menu>programs...then press right soft key menu>edit>paste shortcut

miffy93 said:
Yesterday my phone locked me out, after charging it wouldn't accept my password & I had to do a hard reset.
Most of my utils/progs etc were installed to my memory card & I can use file manager to locate them & run them by running the exe file.
Is there any way of getting them onto the main screen without having to delete & then reinstall them - it looks like it's just the program shortcuts which haved been deleted.
Is it possibe to make new shortcuts & place them on the 'start' screen?
I read in a similar post that pocket mechanic might do something like this - would it, or is there another way?
Thanks.
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future tip:
get spb backup application, and back everything up every week or so.

Nice one, thanks for the help both of you.

Search the net for a free program called shortcutcreator i think i got it from one of the pocket pc freeware sites. It does what your looking for scans your card for applications then creates shortcuts in your program folder.