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I Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion every now and then. I have radio version 1.01.00 and rom version 1.03.00 WWE. My provider is Vodafone in sweden.
If I go to flight mode and back to normal then I can connect to GPRS again. Should I uppgrade my I-Mate to get it to work? Any Ideas what to do?
I've heard of people with similar problems, you need to upgrade your Rom, if you wanna stay relatively safe, upgrade to:
Rom Version: 1.72.00WWE
U can get this from club imate
I'm afraid I can´t find the rom on the Imate Club site. But you belive my problem will be solved by uppgrading the rom right? I´ll have to search for it then. ;c) Thanks.
I sure don't see any version 1.72 on Club iMate at JAM Device Support. The latest available upgrade I see is:
Radio 1.01.00
ROM 1.03.143 WWE
Where do you see version 1.72?
Frank
I believe he's referring to the wrong device. 1.72 was for the I-Mate Pocket PC - not the Jam.
Ok. I have posted a case to Imate and they where about to send a file to correct the problem but I got an emty mail.
Imate support don't know what this is. I'm back on the hunt. Anybody else having the same problem with theirs? Please let me know in this thred
Sincere Apologies, I was in fact dreferring to the I-mate....didnt realise this thread was under magician
Got an ansver from Imate. They sent me an PDF file where they showed me how to set up the GPRS connection. The problem is, been there and done that. I’m totally lost here. Is it only me who has this problem with “magican” and Vodafone? (In Sweden). Frustrating! ;c(
Note: With my P800 and the same location and same SIM = no probem at all.
I have the exact same problem with Vodafone gprs in Sweden
Hi Robert
I have the exact same problem with GPRS. I am also a customer of Vodafone in Sweden. I have this problem regardless of the device I am using. I have been running Qtek 2020, 8010, 9090 and S100 (magician) devices with the same problem for quite a while now.
I have started to think that this is not a device problem. It is probably a problem with Vodafone GPRS. I have contacted their tech support a couple of times about this. So far we have tried disabling/reenabling GPRS on my account and switching to new Sim-cards. None of this has worked so far.
I am using their twin cards service switching between different phones, I am not sure if this has anything to do with the problem.
best regards
Christofer
Thanks a lot for giving me this feedback. I'll talk to Vodafone right away.
Solution: I know that Telia supports the magican device because they have them for sale. My solution was to call Telia and tell them that I wanted to use them instead. Its a covards solution but Imate blames Vodafone and Vodafone blames Imate.
I have an old Qtek1010 on Telia, and it is behaving just like your Magician on Vodaphone. Sometimes I have to actually remove the SIM and put it back in again to be able to reconnect.
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
bamse said:
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
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My gprs connection seems to stay connected ok even when the machine is switched "off". I have an imate jam on o2 in the UK.
I don't know if it stays on forever because i tend to log off gprs so i can go on line through bluetooth.
Simon
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
I have several collegues who are not experiencing these problems with Qtek devices on Vodafone network. So it does not seem to be a general problem.
RobertDahlberg said:
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
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I just talked to Telia today as my GPRS broke down totally and there was just nothing that would make it connect. The person I talked to was very helpful and professional and we managed to isolate the problem to my SIM card. Being a brand new SIM I received just two weeks ago I though that just anything but the SIM would be more probable. It was very evident though as my SIM would not work with GPRS in neither mine nor a colleauges phone but the colleauges SIM would work just fine in both.
My new SIM will arrive on monday, and then hopefully it will not be too long before my S100 arrives as well
Ok, thats somewhat god news. Then there is hope to accually use this expensive piece of toy as it is suppose to.
Some input…
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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Johnny said:
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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It will not. For two reasons:
1. There can only be one network connection at a time, and the activesync connection counts as a network connection (you can use network passthrough to use the activesync connection for network access from the PPC).
2. You can not have a GSM voice connection and an active GPRS connection simultaneously because they share the same radio hardware. Simultaneous GPRS and Voice would need two radios in the phone, and although it has been part of the GSM specification for quite some time there are no such device available on the consumer market yet.
Hi, I am having trouble with my Jasjar and it is really affecting me! The problem is that when I am talking over the phone the person on the other side complains that they can't listen to all the things I say, they loose about 1 of 15 words I speak. I have tried using this on many coverage areas, different hours, with Bluetooth and WiFi turned off, etc... I am have installed and tested on my device the shipped ROM and the ROM version 1.13.53 with Radio 1.03.01 Ext ROM version 1.13.137. (I can't try any other ROM because they will cancel my warranty if I do so) I took it to a Support Center of my Mobile Phone Service Provider (Telcel in Mexico) and they tried with other SIM cards (other phone lines and 3.0, 3.5 Volts version) that didn't helped, they told me to use it in the Band PCS1900 and that also didn't fixed it.
So I want to know if my Jasjar is deffective or if this is a well known issue that will be fixed in the next Jasjar ROM Upgrade or that Microsoft will fix for the Windows Mobile 2005 AKU2, or if this issue will never be fixed for this device. Or of my device is faulty?
It has done this since I bought it from Expansys.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
Rodrigo Gonzalez Balsa
Microphone AGC
Try enabling the Microphone AGC in the Settings > System menu. It May help. If it is already enable then try disabling it and see if it make any difference.
Thank you, yes I already tried this Enabled and Dissabled, it also didn't helped :?
Anyway I think this setting only affects when you are Recording a note or something.
Rodrigo Gonzalez
the mic of the universal is to the left of the instrument. try and flip the instrument so you can talk into the mic. Just ensure you keep track where the mic is when speaking, i think that should slove the problem.
Yes, thank you zillocx I tried that the first 2 days when people started complaining that they were loosing some of the words I speak, I thought I needed more time to get used to the Jasjar, but after 2 weeks I have convinced myself that this is some kind of bug or something?
I have already tried using a Bluetooth headset (Nokia HS-11W) and is the same thing. I think they listen to me clearly when I am not using it since my Mobile Phone Provider changed my SIM card for a 3 Volts version.
This is weird and I don't want to return this unit because I have always encouraged people to get devices like the Jasjar instead of their normal phones and a PDA, but now they are proving me wrong!
SOLVED!
Hi, after many months and sending my Jasjar back to warranty without success of getting my problem solved...
I finally have 2 solutions for it:
1) With a Tested and Approved ROM from i-mate-> Rom version: 1.13.53
Radio version: 1.03.01 and ExtROM version: 1.13.137
I managed to solve this problem if I change my carrier, here in Mexico 2 companies offer GSM (Telcel and Movistar) if I connect to Movistar the problem dissapears, but they have few antennas.
2) With the new i-mate Test ROM version: 1.30.68 WWE
Radio: 1.09.00 and ExtROM: 1.30.153 WWE
The problem is solved without changing to another carrier! But! If I install Microsoft’s .net Compact Framework 2.0 the problem returns.
Any ideas what is going on here?
Is anybody is reading this?
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
Here are the pictures:
Not sure why there are 3 antenea but I can gaurentee that they will declare warranty void as soon as you say you've been poking around with it. Is it not possible to make an aeriel? By the way the conductive tape justs looks like a screening shield which could be replicated with some aluminium foil.
3 Antenna maybe because,...
Bluetooth,
WiFi,
GSM??
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bogusiano said:
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
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Ithing the missing one is GSM antena ... because wifi antena is locator on the side of your device
GSM Antenna
Yes you are right guys, it is definitely a GSM Antenna, I think it handles the outgoing data on a call (my voice), but only on some types of networks, because with my current operator (Movistar) it doesn't matter the missing antenna, the other person can hear me crystal clear, but no on the Telcel network. I think Telcel network is older, maybe I-mate just "deprecated" this part of the antenna, haha.
I know that I shouldn't have opened my device, but I knew something was interfering my GSM antenna, I thought maybe the wifi and the gsm antenna were very close on my Jasjar and that's why I was having this problems.
I will try to contact I-mate and ask them for the antenna, I hope they at least apologize, because had a lot of problems because of this little piece of metal!!!
I will keep you updated...
Download link?
bogusiano said:
Hi, after many months and sending my Jasjar back to warranty without success of getting my problem solved...
I finally have 2 solutions for it:
1) With a Tested and Approved ROM from i-mate-> Rom version: 1.13.53
Radio version: 1.03.01 and ExtROM version: 1.13.137
I managed to solve this problem if I change my carrier, here in Mexico 2 companies offer GSM (Telcel and Movistar) if I connect to Movistar the problem dissapears, but they have few antennas.
2) With the new i-mate Test ROM version: 1.30.68 WWE
Radio: 1.09.00 and ExtROM: 1.30.153 WWE
The problem is solved without changing to another carrier! But! If I install Microsoft’s .net Compact Framework 2.0 the problem returns.
Any ideas what is going on here?
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Could someone direct me as to where I can download these ROMs? I've been looking to no avail..
thank you.
Awesome Find!!
bogusiano said:
Hi, well let me update you and tell you what I have found. I changed from Carrier and everything is working fine now, but yesterday I decided to open my Jasjar to see if there is any chance of improving the original antenna, I opened my device with the HTC Service Manual (There is a copy on the FTP). To my surprise I discovered that the Universal has 3 atennas for the GSM/UMTS Service (I don't know what is the purpose of each one), and my Jasjar is missing one of them!!!! :shock: And a conductive tape (are they really important???)
I couldn't believe it because my Jasjar was returned to warranty at Dubai, they changed the motherboard but they didn't realized that it was missing one antenna! Are they blind????? Maybe they are opening devices very cool with their sunglasses on 8) !!!!!!! :evil:
So I decided to make an antenna for it with the antenna of a Motorola phone I used, and my Jasjar worked perfectly with my past carrier (I haven't been able to cancel the contract so I am paying 2 contracts thanks to i-mate :evil: )
So my question is do anyone of you knows the purpose of each antenna?
What should I do, should I contact i-mate and tell them they are blind and that I will sew them because of all I have been through?
Thank you very much and I hope this time you will help me guys!
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DUDE!!! YOU ARE THE MAN!! People have been complaining about me not receiving calls, so I finally started to investigate and after a long search stumbled across this post!! I opened mine up and bingo, I am missing this antenna as well.
I'm going to try to fabricate a replacement and see if things go better. Someone ought to pin this post or put it somewhere obvious as this is a big find!!
Thanks again dude!
UPDATE:
OK... I've been trying to fabricate a new antenna using some sheet aluminum, but it is too flimsy to keep the contact. Also bloody hard to cut to the right size (took me four attempts) and finally succeeded size-wise after measuring with a micrometer.
Can anyone please suggest an alternative? Is there a place to get a replacement antenna with all 3 in place?
New Antenna, no help...
I managed to make a more sturdy antenna using pop can metal. I ensured that the contacts were actually conductive and placed it in. However, I don't see a noticeable improvement in signal strength.
May I suggest that the 3 antenna's are for EGSM (900), DCS1800 and PCS1900? Presumably, that would also explain the different sizes in the plates...I'd say the largest one is 900, the second largest is 1800 and the smallest is 1900.
The GSM mode sets EGSM and DCS1800 which are the modes I used. The second largest antenna is the one that appears to be missing. I'm going to try service on PCS1900, but I don't think my carrier uses it.
Still looking for an OEM antenna if anyone can direct me there.
Hello all...This may be my first post but i have beed watching the forum for quite a long time!You are doing a great work around here!
I need a big favor from anyone that can help!Does anyone have the original SPV m1500 rom provided by orange and can upload it somewhere for me to download?Or can anyone back up his ROM from a m1500 and upload it somewhere?
And i have question as well and i would be grateful if you could answer this one!
If you haven't CID unlocked your phone and somehow managed to upgrade the ROM with a different make's one (i have one from Qtek 2020i at the moment) will it be blocked by the network or is a matter that the person that i bought it from (over ebay) reported it as lost/stolen?Currently everything works fine apart from the phone bit!It says no service and can't detect any network!(it just says ''unable to read setting from the network.Try viewing settings later or disconnect data connection and try again'').
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Hello, i have a big problem regarding a ORBIT2 from O2. The guys at O2 dont understand my problem , so i hope as the last hope you can help me. As you know the Orbit2 is the same as HTC cruise, o2 has no sim-lock here in germany. I use a sim-card from another telephone company and all works fine. I have problems with the sim-access profile. In my car i have a Nokia 616 Bluetooth hands free unit built in which supports sim- access profile. If i try to establish a connection between the orbit2 and my in car unit it works to the point as they handle out the password. After i confirm the given password from the handsfree device it tells me that the simcard i not valid. Is in the orbit 2 a lock on the bluetooth sim access profile which means that only o2 Simcards are allowed for the Sim access ? Can you please help me, because here is no one which understands my problem. Maybe i can have another firmware to solve the problem,the phone itself is simlock-free.
I dont understand why it is only possible with o2-sim cards to have the sim access functionality.
Can anybody help me?
Greetings Wolfman-Jack
Sorry I don't have an answer to your problem; I understand car kits using SAP are quite new.
Could you tell me how well it works with other phones in general, and how much you paid?
I understand the SAP system means the car kit has it's own "phone" but accesses your SIM card to connect to the network?
Hi there,
it works great!
You turn on your ignition key and the car kit start opening the connection to your cellular phone in your pocket without any touch of a button ect...
After your drive, you switch of the motor and the car unit disconnects the connection and give the cellular phone its function back.
A great thing, but believe me iam so disappointed that my new Orbit from O2 rejects my simcard but only in combination to my car hands free unit....
Greetings to UK!
Wolf
Wolfman-Jack said:
Hello, i have a big problem regarding a ORBIT2 from O2. The guys at O2 dont understand my problem , so i hope as the last hope you can help me. As you know the Orbit2 is the same as HTC cruise, o2 has no sim-lock here in germany. I use a sim-card from another telephone company and all works fine. I have problems with the sim-access profile. In my car i have a Nokia 616 Bluetooth hands free unit built in which supports sim- access profile. If i try to establish a connection between the orbit2 and my in car unit it works to the point as they handle out the password. After i confirm the given password from the handsfree device it tells me that the simcard i not valid. Is in the orbit 2 a lock on the bluetooth sim access profile which means that only o2 Simcards are allowed for the Sim access ? Can you please help me, because here is no one which understands my problem. Maybe i can have another firmware to solve the problem,the phone itself is simlock-free.
I dont understand why it is only possible with o2-sim cards to have the sim access functionality.
Can anybody help me?
Greetings Wolfman-Jack
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Hi,
interesting. So just to be clear you tried
1) o2 sim in orbit II - sim access works fine
2) other net sim in orbit II- sim access not work?
if that's the case you could try flashing a new rom, but I would suggest u wait a bit. Maybe check in the kaiser (o2 stellar) forum, for same prob and how to resolve it.
check compatibility of your bluetooth car kit with Polaris seems to be ok
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/6084.htm
"This product is compatible with:
. . . .
HTC: Advantage, MTeoR, P3300, P3400, P3600, P4350, P6300, P6500, S310, S620, S710, S730, Touch, Touch Cruise, Touch Dual, TyTN, TyTN II"
so that's out of the way
older thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272235
maybe u could send a pm to mahmood,
ORBIT2 O2 Lock on SIM ACCESS
Hi Jackster,
i have meanwhile a little more what i have checked out.
Yesterday i took all sim-cards which have been in nearby range and what a big surprise all worked fine.
I tried prepaid cards of Vodafone, T-Mobile, and E-PLus and a contract card of E-Plus.
The only simcard which was rejected during the try of connect to the bluetooth devise is my own BASE-SIM-CARD .
BASE is by the why part of EPLUS company thats the FLATRATE PART of EPLUS.
After i tested all, i called my friend which has also an BASE contract and what another big surprise his card also didn`t work.
After all brainstorming it seems that only that BASE-cards were declined.
Next step is to find out what the differences are between all cards and the BASE sim card is. Maybe UMTS and normal GSM????
Maybe a protocol problem, because in my E51 from Nokia all cards also the BASE-CARDS works fine.
Greetings
Wolf
Wolf, I would suggest trying BASE related forums, as the same issue might happen with other handsets.
You might also try phoning BASE, tell them your problem, and asking if they have another type of SIM card you can try, even if you have to pay €10.
Good luck, and please let us know if you find the solution.
good luck
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Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
Wolfman-Jack said:
Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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it would be difficult to get an old simcard, cause all provider deliver as new card so called USIM Card, most times with 72k Size. Try to get a blank E-Plus Simcard in an phoneshop and call the hotline, ask them for a sim card change and tell them you have a blank simcard you can use (dont tell its an eplus sim card) the cant check it, they will reaktivate your simcard with your base number without questions only minor change... in the phone your provider will be stated as E-Plus cause its programmed in your simcard.
Wolfman-Jack said:
Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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Hello Wolf,
i have the same problem with my new Touch Cruise and my Nokia 616. I tried several Sims´s the last 2 days. One Vodafone (UMTS), one normal O2 (UMTS), one O2-Multicard (UMTS) and one old E-Plus (GSM).
The E-Plus Sim was the only one wich operated normally in SAP-Mode. The other Sim-Cards hanged by connecting after pairing. After turning the igniton off and on, this cards asked for the PIN but they didn´t find a network.
Have you tried another Firmware likes Bepes???
Hello LM76,
no i havent heard about that.
Can you tell me more.
Wolf
Hello,
I've bought the Orange SPV M500 a couple of months ago, but I dropped it and now the speaker is not working anymore. A friend of mine has the same one, and he gave it to me. Very happy about that ofcourse.
The strange thing is, when I put my simcard in his M500 it says: missing simcard or invalid.
He called customer service of Orange and the phone is unlocked. But still I get this message with my simcard.
It seems I have a new kind of simcard (UMTS or something). But everyone else can use the phone, even from a different provider.
I would like to use my friends M500...how can I fix this simproblem?
My M500 has operator version 6.06.3.162 and the M500 from my friend 6.12.3.172. Maybe this gives someone a clue?
Thanks in advance!
Hi!
I guess this is not the answer you were expecting but if I were you, I'd try to fix your device instead (unless it's broken into pieces).
It's relatively easy to disassemble the device and get the speaker back right.
The chances are that on the impact it became displaced and, since the electrical connections to the speaker are just made by springloaded contacts, if the speaker goes out of place or is pressed hard, the contacs are no longer made and, thus, you have no sound on the speaker.
There is a photographic tutoral made by a member of this forum where that issue is exactly addressed; You might want to take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=234650
If you still want to use your friend's device, then I guess you have to flash a new rom in it and you can find the procedures on the XDA-Wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/