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hello again folks ...
want to say thanks again for all the help so far .. upgrade went well ..
i went from :
rom version: 3.14.17 ENG
rom date: 10/11/02
radio version : 4.17
to the upgrade :
rom version: 3.17.03 ENG
rom date: 5/15/03
radio version : 4.17
courtesy of www.yorch.net 8)
it was fairly painless ... however the phone still can not pick up a signal ..
also note with upgrade i have been able to switch GSM band from 900/1800 to 900 or 1900 successfully.. but, still can not find t-mobile US as a default setting ...
perhaps i should have cooked and installed one of the following upgrades ? :?
4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US
or
4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US
i was hesitant because it indicates once the above mentioned ROM is installed you can not switch to any other ROM using programme A .
my device model no. PW10A1
does this apply to me?
or perhaps i need to udate the radio stack ?? any direction would be great .. thanks again folks !
jason

use 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US then once loaded onto xda go into the bootloader (hold power button down while soft restting) then press the calendar (right hand) button and set it to 900/1900mhz
then wait for it to do what it has to do then softreset again.....
then load the phone up with sim in go into phone then options and click on the band tab and select 1900mhz
softrest after if it doesnt pick up signal after then the aversions are not kinda tri band but if it does post up then we will know the answer for deffinate thing is though the radio version is built for 900/1800 not 900/1900 so i dont think itll work but you can try

my device model no. PW10A1
does this apply to me?
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If the H/W of the device is A type then it's 900/1800. So, unless you have a 900 MHz signal it will not work. Switching the band from phone settings will have no effect unless with proper H/W and RSU version.

ok fellas ...
i went from :
rom version: 3.17.03 ENG
rom date: 5/15/03
radio version : 4.17
to the upgrade :
rom version: 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US
rom date: 7/10/03
radio version : 4.17.00
courtesy of www.yorch.net
however the phone still can not pick up a signal ..
with upgrade i have not been able to switch GSM band from 900/1800 to 900 or 1900 successfully through the wallaby bootloader (after changes are made i can not get out of bootloader without doing a hard reset) :? also note the xda developers band switch tool is also present but reads error :?
also note :!:
before the upgrade
my device model no. PW10A1
after upgrade
my device model no. PW10B1
not sure if im getting any closer to the solution but im still happy at this point i havent burned up the unit ...
perhaps it is still an issue of the radio version 4.17.00 (which is the only thing i havent fooled with yet)
any thoughts on trying the radio upgrades from www.yorch.net (under upgrades) ??
if this doesnt kill me it will surely make me stronger ... i will throw a party with beer for everyone if we can get this turkey running !!
thanks again folks !

If you can read a B type on your device that means your H/W supports 900/1900 MHz. To be more sure, check the avaialble options at the GSM menu from the boot loader (Power + soft reset then Calendar button).
If it does have the 1900 MHz option, I would recommend to go for a full upgrade using the latest TMO ROM 4.01.00. It contains RSU 6.24.01 and it works perfectly well for me tho I have 900/1800 network.
Here is the link: ftp://tmobile:[email protected]:21
Be careful and good luck ...

It may be important to note at this point that the OS ROM version really doesn't have much to do with whether or not the phone gets a signal. XDA I is either 900/1800 (PW10A) or 900/1900 (PW10B). (Please note that this model number should be taken from the sticker on the back, not from what the OS says it is.)
If you have a 900/1800 phone, it will not do 900/1900, and vice-versa. Exceptions are said to exist, probably in places where a 1900 provider is really low in the band (or an 1800 provider really high), but this is not recommended and unlikely to work very well.
Band switching is done manually with an extra tab in the Phone Options page between 900 and 1900 in US ROMs, or automatically between 900/1800 in all others. There is also a band-switch in the bootloader, which always offers all possibilities (900, 1900, and 900/1800). After selecting the correct band for your phone, you may need to hard-reset with the SIM removed a few times before the phone 'understands' it is to use another band.
If you want a tri-band phone, get an XDA II. The XDA II by the way comes with vastly improved radio performance. Unlike the original XDA, I can use it in areas with not-so-great coverage.

>any thoughts on trying the radio upgrades from www.yorch.net (under >upgrades) ??
Yeap you're needed of a Radio Stack upgrade, as you have seen 4.17 won't work in the US. So I suggest you upgrade to the AT&T or the T-Mobile stack.
HTH

ROM: 4.01.00 ENG
Radio: 6.24.01
i would love to try this upgrade ...
can anyone tell me where i could download it? :?
thanks

Go to www.yorch.net you'll find it in the upgrades portion of the site

Peter Poelman wrote
There is also a band-switch in the bootloader, which always offers all possibilities (900, 1900, and 900/1800)
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Thx Peter Poelman so much for this great info, but my original Qtek 1010 never showed the 1900 Mhz option in the boot loader menu and it was PW10A.
Now as I replaced the main board with a one taken from a used TMO device it shows the 1900 option both in the GSM menu and in the phone settings in ROM (I 'm using 4.01.00 now) and the device type is PW10B
Does that mean that the GSM menu shows only what the device H/W can actually support, or it's part of the RSU file contents which may give a fake option of the 1900 MHz ?
Thanks again for correcting our info

saqibj said:
Go to www.yorch.net you'll find it in the upgrades portion of the site
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You can also get it via FTP at:
Host address: 130.39.48.102
Port: 21
Login: tmobile
Password: rom
HTH

thanks for the info ...
i cant seem to get to this site successfully ... perhaps im going about it all wrong ... any chance you could spoon feed it to me .. ?

Biso007 said:
Does that mean that the GSM menu shows only what the device H/W can actually support, or it's part of the RSU file contents which may give a fake option of the 1900 MHz ?
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The sticker on the back (and nothing else) tells it all:
PW10A = 900/1800
PW10B = 900/1900

is this upgrade available from yorch ? if so ... where ..?? cant find it anywhere on the site ..
thanks

eurowerks said:
thanks for the info ...
i cant seem to get to this site successfully ... perhaps im going about it all wrong ... any chance you could spoon feed it to me .. ?
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You need to use a program like CuteFTP or WS_FTP LE
CuteFTP can be found at:
http://www.cuteftp.com/downloads/cuteftp.asp
WS_FTP LE can be found at:
http://www.ftpplanet.com/download.htm
HTH

XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
Biso007 said:
Does that mean that the GSM menu shows only what the device H/W can actually support, or it's part of the RSU file contents which may give a fake option of the 1900 MHz ?
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The sticker on the back (and nothing else) tells it all:
PW10A = 900/1800
PW10B = 900/1900
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also note ... unit is an o2 from singapore .. i am in the US trying to access the Tmobile network ... originally it was PW10A .. after the second rom upgrade .. it switched to PW10B ... and also appears to have all 3 bands available from the bootloader .. after 3rd upgrade/downgrade to
rom 4.01.00 eng
radio 6.24.01
still appears to be PW10B1
it is searching for a signal
thoughts anyone? :?

It might be your SIM card so try it in another phone and if it works.
HTH

How can I restore my system to the original states

Hello,
I know that I should'nt have do that, but I need your help.
I upgrade my MDA on the following state :
Rom : 4.01.16 Eng
RSU : 4.21.00
For buisness reson I have to go back to the original state.
Rom : 3.18.01 ENG
RSU : 3.23.00
Unfortunatly I didn't do a Backup
I have acces to some MDA with the originale rom and rsu
My question is how to go back to the originale state, without destroying the other mda with the originale rom? via bootloader?
Thanks in advance

The ROM part is easy, you can get the original 3.18 ENG from the carrier devices site http://www.carrierdevices.com.au/downloads.php?region=Asia Pacific
The RSU might be your nightmare especially that you have 4.21 which showed to be the pain for most people here ... anyway, in the same site you will find RSU 3.25 for Qtek ... it's almost the same as 3.23.
Good luck

Biso007 Thanks for you answer,
I look at your link but it seems to be the Qteck version, I really need the officiale t-mobile version.
Is there any way to save the originale one in one of the other phone that I have access and restore to my one?

Biso: Is the rom found in http://www.carrierdevices.com.au/downloads.php?region=Asia Pacific WM2003? What radio version it contain? Is it compatible with PW10B1 device?
I'm now running T-Mobile ROM 4.01.16 ENG, Radio 6.25.02. I'm plannning to change the Radio to be compatible with Asia-Pacific and in the US (I've been going to Asia and back to the States for business, so I want a device compatible with both Asia-Pacific and US). Thanks

ok I Download the old version on a new phone via OSimagetool to my sd card and put it on my device. working perfectly.
So now I just have to downgrade the radio stack to 3.23.00, where I can find it and how to downgrade?

I download the file here
http://www.t-mobile.at/business/mobiles_arbeiten/MDA/SWupdates/
Looks like it's working, (at least I have the right number at startup)
the only problems that I had it's that rhe rsupgrade was lauch every time I startup, I had to delete the file rsupgrade on startup folder. now it's working like before.
Thanks a lot.

By the way, does it exist a solution in mda to copy contact name to the sim card?

pjfuerte said:
Biso: Is the rom found in http://www.carrierdevices.com.au/downloads.php?region=Asia Pacific WM2003? What radio version it contain? Is it compatible with PW10B1 device?
I'm now running T-Mobile ROM 4.01.16 ENG, Radio 6.25.02. I'm plannning to change the Radio to be compatible with Asia-Pacific and in the US (I've been going to Asia and back to the States for business, so I want a device compatible with both Asia-Pacific and US). Thanks
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No, it's PPC2002 and the RSU is 3.25 for PW10A devices (900/1800). I know it coz it was on my device before I replace the mother board with a B-type one.
If you are going to use 900 MHs network in Asia you can keep your current RSU ... I have it on my device and my network is 900/1800 ... other than this you better use 2 phones or get a new XDA II

sebs said:
By the way, does it exist a solution in mda to copy contact name to the sim card?
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Dealing with the SIM book is a matter of s/w and the device type (XDA or MDA or ... ) has nothing to do with it. You can find many freeware s/w to deal with the SIM entries.

ok thanks a lot, do you just have the name of one of this freeware?

try this http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7496

don't work for me
Requirements: Pocket PC 2002("Not Microsoft Phone Edition or Pocket PC 2000)
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always looking for gsm phone.
Say choose flexport extra if you have running voice gsm installed on this device, but i dont have the option.

unlocking SX56 problems

hey there i have a problem unlocking the SX56 its a ATT device witch i upgraded via the Siemens Website to the 2003 version,
now when i use the tool xdaunlock i always get an error:
error getting unlock code
anyone has some help on that
here is the info
ROM Version: A.30.09 ENG
ROM date: 01/01/04
Radio Version: A.33.02
Protocol Version: 1.3.3
Model: PW10B1
please help me !!!

XDAunlock tool doesn't work with WM2003 ... you have to down grade your ROM to PPC2002 ... try to cook any 3.17 based ROM from the kitchen here and it's better to flash your ROM with the SER v1.2 which will ulock your xda with the first reboot

thx for the info
would you have some info what SER 1.2 is or some step by step instructions
Anton

GSM Band change
Hi,
I have an unlocked AT&T Siemens XDA I :
ROM : A.30.09 ENG
ROM date: 01/01/04
Radio : A.20.10
Protocol version: 324e4
Under Settings>phone> i cannot find the tab found in other versions where I can switch the GSM band between 900 and 1900.
what should I do about that? is there anyway to switch band? or do I have to upgrade/downgrade the OS?
The phone is working with both T-mobile and AT&T networks, but I will need to use it in Europe and Egypt (Vodafone).
hey Biso007 , I hope you have the answer
thank you

Band Switching in Windows Mobile
The tab used to switch the bandwidth, 900/1900 MHz GSM, was removed in Windows Mobile as the software interface with the radio stack unit/RSU automatically will switch from the Americas' 1900 MHz to the international 900 MHz and vice verse when travelling to other countries. My friend has an unlocked Siemens SX56 Pocket PC Phone with AT&T Wireless(hopefully soon to be Cingular Wireless) as the service provider, took the SX56 over to Ireland with him on a business trip and used a prepaid SIM without any problems.

Band switching
Hey
Thanks for this information.

Re: thx for the info
toxit said:
would you have some info what SER 1.2 is or some step by step instructions
Anton
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Take a look here www.xda-developers.com/SER/
DaKanadian said:
hey Biso007 , I hope you have the answer
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As raycaroll70 said, band switching is being done automatic between 900 and 1900 for B devices, and 900 to 1800 for A devices ... this is true in A30.0x ROMs from AT&T
In T-mobile ROMs it's still being done through the phone settings but only for B devices 900/1900. It's also worthy to be mentioned that the RSU is a significant factor in this issue ... I think A20.x does this auto switching, but I didn't try it with 6.2x.0x RSUs

Biso007 said:
XDAunlock tool doesn't work with WM2003 ... you have to down grade your ROM to PPC2002 ... try to cook any 3.17 based ROM from the kitchen here and it's better to flash your ROM with the SER v1.2 which will ulock your xda with the first reboot
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SER v1.2 cannot unlock WM2003 version radio stack 6.25 or A33.
The SER V1.2 is absolutely obsolete.
I have developed new tools to unlock under MW2003 new radio

cgigate said:
I have developed new tools to unlock under MW2003 new radio
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Thx for this already known info, but I expect the people coming to this forum for "FREE" advices ... then if it doesn't help they can seek a help with a charge if needed.
Note: even if SER v1.2 is obsolete (which is not true!), no one said it should be kept to be used as the final ROM (even tho it's still working fine) ... it's just a transitional state for unlocking ... and for the RSU issue, many people here down graded the RSU then unlock then upgrade back to a recent RSU ... and they did it with no charge as well

Biso007 said:
cgigate said:
I have developed new tools to unlock under MW2003 new radio
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Thx for this already known info, but I expect the people coming to this forum for "FREE" advices ... then if it doesn't help they can seek a help with a charge if needed.
Note: even if SER v1.2 is obsolete (which is not true!), no one said it should be kept to be used as the final ROM (even tho it's still working fine) ... it's just a transitional state for unlocking ... and for the RSU issue, many people here down graded the RSU then unlock then upgrade back to a recent RSU ... and they did it with no charge as well
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Downgrade Radio stack is big risk!
Many XDAs are dead cause radio stack downgrade/upgrade failure!

SX 56 change frequencies on xda rom

Can't switch frequencies to 1900 to use phone in central US. I push 1900 and it says error and goes back to 900 which does me no good.
What can I do?

What RSU version ?
Do you do this in phone settings or GSM band switcher in boot loader ?

Change Frequencies
Not sure what you mean by RSU, but I have the XDA special edition rom 3.17.03 eng and I am doing it in the phone, I don't how to start bootloader. Thanks.

RSU stands for the Radio Stack of the device (the phone thing) ... you can read it in device info ... and if it doesn't support 1900 MHz then it's useless to try it from the phone settings.
Also, your device must be PW10B to work in 1900 .. check the rear sticker
you can start the boot loader by pressing and holding power while soft reset ... then press calendar button to go in the GSM menu.

Got into the bootloader and set to 1900. I have a PW10B1, but device info says I have a PW10A1. Why is this. The phone will now pick up a signal on 1900 but the reception is poor. Looses signal where it used to have a signal.
Radio Version is A.33.02
ROM Version is 3.17.03
Do I need to get a different ROM to get it to match a PW10B1?
Also, can I put my old ROM back on? I have it on disc? Tried to reload from Siemens site and it said I could not load on to this device.
Thanks, you have been very helpful!

It seems you used the 3.17 ROM to unlock ... what was the original ROM ?
well, I 'm the last one to advice on RSU flashing ... it's risky unless really really necessary ... check with your friends in the same area on the best RSU ... ROM doesn't make any difference.
If ok, I would recommend ROM 4.01.00 with RSU 6.25.02 ... you can cook the ROM in the kitchen but leave the RSU action as a last option

Original ROM A30.09 ENG
Radio A33.02
Since last post I figured out how to use XDA tools to get Siemens upgrade ROM back on and now every thing seems to be fine and unlocked which is what I originally wanted to use with Cingular sim. I will have to roam on ATT to use this but is OK since I have free roaming.
If I have any more problems, I will post again.
Thanks!

Can not pick up the network after finally unlocking..HELP;-)

Hello,
How are you?
After finally managing to unlock my xda, it does not find any networks!
My ROM Version is 4.01.12 ENG
ROM date 12/22/03
Radio Version 6.24.00
Protocol version 324e4
Does anyone know of this problem?
Please help me.. I was so happy to unlock it and now i have run into this problem....
I have read that you shouldn't play with the gsm menu in the bootloader screen.. well i did play with them before i knew i shouldn't. Could this be the problem?
Is there a way to reset it?
Should I go to a different radio version?
Please help,
I live in France and I am on the french bouygtel network. I believe this is a 900/1800 gsm network.
Thank you,
monza

Re: Can not pick up the network after finally unlocking..HEL
monza said:
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Radio Version 6.24.00
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Should I go to a different radio version?
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this is a 900/1800 gsm network.
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6.24.00 radio is for PWA10B1 and for 900/1900 networks only (for USA).
If you have a PWA10A1 model (check the back of your PDA), you should use 4.21.00 for 900/1800. Note: upgrading Radio Stack is very risky, do it for your own responsibility! So after you downgraded to 4.21, enter bootloader, press calendar button then select "900/1800" and soft reset.
You can get 4.21 radio stack from here:
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_V4.21_PPC.zip for the ppc install version and
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_V4.21.zip for the activesync version. I remind you, upgrading radio stack is risky!!
Search in the forums how to upgrade radio stack.
Oh, and entering bootloader makes a hard reset.

KTamas... Thank you very very very much...
Thank you very very very much.....
You are a god ;-)
It worked.

Compatibility of SEROM with Radio A.20.10
I had been asking a similar question elsewhere in the forum.
Given these device specs,
ROM Version : A.21.02 ENG
ROM date: 10/17/03
Radio Version : A.20.10
Protocol version : 324e4
Carrier : AT&T GSM/GPRS in the USA,
would you know if the version of the Special Edition ROM v1.2 available on this site (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/SpecialEditionROM) should be compatible with this radio stack or not? I would not want to do a RS up/downgrade if I can avoid it.

Re: KTamas... Thank you very very very much...
monza said:
Thank you very very very much...It worked.
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You're welcome

Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
I've just acquired a T-Mobile (unlocked) and want to use it in New Zealand, which has a European setting, 900/1800. The T-Mobile is a PW10B1, which I think is setup to operate on a different frequency.
Can I swap the radio stack to operate on my local GSM network, or will I fry the PDA.
If I do swap the radio stack, and it fails - is there a ROM which I can use to rebuild the PDA with instructions on how to do this (URLS and links would be VERY much appreciated!)
Thanks, Hamish

Re: Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
HamishM said:
I've just acquired a T-Mobile (unlocked) and want to use it in New Zealand, which has a European setting, 900/1800. The T-Mobile is a PW10B1, which I think is setup to operate on a different frequency.
Can I swap the radio stack to operate on my local GSM network, or will I fry the PDA.
If I do swap the radio stack, and it fails - is there a ROM which I can use to rebuild the PDA with instructions on how to do this (URLS and links would be VERY much appreciated!)
Thanks, Hamish
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PWA10B1 is for 900/1900 ONLY. You cant swap radio strack - if your provider works on 900 mhz, then you have to use it on that freq.

T-Mobile in NZ (from Canada)
Thanks for the reply.
Since then, I've installed a v4 radio stack (as described earlier in this thread) and the system does boot, but won't see my PC for Active Sync and also won't see the network.
I'm downloading the official T-Mobile ROM which I hope I can use, but if activesync won't work, any suggestions as to how to get the ROM loaded?
Also, is there a utility to select the network bandwidth, as there wasn't one already on the device - and I'm beginning to get a little concerned now!
Many thanks for your time so far!
-h

You can choose 900/1800 or 900/1900 from the bootloader, press/hold power while pushing reset with stylus, then when screen appears, push the button below the antenna, choose your appropriate band and from there, for model A choose 900/1800 for model B choose 900/1900. Make sure you have a working backup of your data when using this method.

Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
Thanks for your help.....I managed to get it into bootloader, but was pressing the contacts button (left) rather than the right (calendar).
I now have managed to get the device to see the local 900MHz network, so it's functioning !
Your help has been much appreciated!
-h

Any one helps me please.
I need the radio version A.20.10 for my T-mobile XDA. thanks very much

Re: Any one helps me please.
bmh said:
I need the radio version A.20.10 for my T-mobile XDA. thanks very much
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http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_VA20.10_PPC.zip