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Flashing Radio Version

Having problems with Radio Version 4.21 from England, ie the phone will not work (I am in Australia). The phone was working OK until I performed the upgrade
It has been suggested that I install Radio Version 6.12 from T-mobile and I have downloaded the file from Yorch, this comes up as an nbf file and I wonder if I should flash it as I can not find RSUupgrade.exe. Any suggestions ?
Chris

You downloaded the wrong file go back to Yorch's site and look under Upgrades and download "USA T-mobile Latest Radio Stack (Unofficial)
RU 6.24.00".
HTH

dont Australia use 900/1800 like europe ?
if that is the case the us RSU would ruin the phone even more

Rudegar said:
don't Australia use 900/1800 like Europe ?
if that is the case the us RSU would ruin the phone even more
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You know thats what I thought until I received the below PM:
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Radio Stack for Australia
Wed Nov 12, 2003 13:10
Hello Qman,
Thank you for your reply! But great news here as I have managed to get my RSU version to work in Australia.
My carrier is Optus and SIM card is fine.
Basically by trying most RSU versions I wasn’t able to get the phone to work. Funny thing is I tried the RSU version for the O2, which is supporting here in Australia but to no avail! I ended up using the new T- Mobile for the US and works like a dream have fully signal as well.
New version is RSU 6.24.
Cheers Erebus,
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HTH

Further to my problems I upgraded to the T-mobile 2003 ROM an their latest Radio stack 6.24 and all is working OK.
I had sent the XDA to Melbourne (Australia) to the accredited Service company (Accord) and they had sent it back saying that it was buggered. I had some very helpful advice from Peter and Joe and have everything working fine. Curiously, when I had XDA 1.2 and the T-mobile Radiostack the phone kept crashing after reboot. Since upgrading to T-Mobile 4.00.21 ENG and Radio version 6.24.00 all works well.
I did try to download some Medical software (MIMS) and thisd has proven to be a bit of a problem. The tech dude at MIMS was not too impressed with Pocket-PC 2003
Chris

Great, glad to hear it all worked out ok! 8)

Seems R 6.24 works in many wheres ... I put it on a friend's XDA and it works now (Egypt 900/1800) ... just wonder if it's wise to go for ROM 4.00.21 or keep the 4.00.11 .... I heared that you can't change the ROM after T-mobile ROMs ... is that true ?

Biso007 said:
Seems R 6.24 works in many wheres ... I put it on a friend's XDA and it works now (Egypt 900/1800) ... just wonder if it's wise to go for ROM 4.00.21 or keep the 4.00.11 .... I heared that you can't change the ROM after T-mobile ROMs ... is that true ?
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Thats great news on RS 6.24, thanks for the tip!
As far as not being able to change ROM's after upgrading to a T-Mobile WM2003 ROM, it will still work but you must use the SD card boot loader upgrade method.
HTH

Help needed, this morning I flash my XDA with USA T-mobile Latest Radio Stack (Unofficial) but not working for my GSM 900. So I flash it back to O2 Latest Official Radio Stack RU 4.21 but it flash until 83% stop forever. So i do a soft rest. Then my XDA can't boot. Can someone help me out on this method? I'm in Malaysia. Using 900/1800 bandwidth.

Hi ...
If you have taken SD backup before upgrading, then go for bootloader menu, press Calendar button, and turn off the Radio part. Try to flash your XDA back to the original ROM and RSU, and then perform a hard reset.
In case you didn't, try the Qtek offical RSU 3.25 from http://www.carrierdevices.com.au/downloads.php?region=Asia Pacific. It works good for Asian operators.
Good luck

Problem FIXED... Thanks for the big help.

more help with xda

hello again folks ...
want to say thanks again for all the help so far .. upgrade went well ..
i went from :
rom version: 3.14.17 ENG
rom date: 10/11/02
radio version : 4.17
to the upgrade :
rom version: 3.17.03 ENG
rom date: 5/15/03
radio version : 4.17
courtesy of www.yorch.net 8)
it was fairly painless ... however the phone still can not pick up a signal ..
also note with upgrade i have been able to switch GSM band from 900/1800 to 900 or 1900 successfully.. but, still can not find t-mobile US as a default setting ...
perhaps i should have cooked and installed one of the following upgrades ? :?
4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US
or
4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US
i was hesitant because it indicates once the above mentioned ROM is installed you can not switch to any other ROM using programme A .
my device model no. PW10A1
does this apply to me?
or perhaps i need to udate the radio stack ?? any direction would be great .. thanks again folks !
jason

use 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US then once loaded onto xda go into the bootloader (hold power button down while soft restting) then press the calendar (right hand) button and set it to 900/1900mhz
then wait for it to do what it has to do then softreset again.....
then load the phone up with sim in go into phone then options and click on the band tab and select 1900mhz
softrest after if it doesnt pick up signal after then the aversions are not kinda tri band but if it does post up then we will know the answer for deffinate thing is though the radio version is built for 900/1800 not 900/1900 so i dont think itll work but you can try

my device model no. PW10A1
does this apply to me?
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If the H/W of the device is A type then it's 900/1800. So, unless you have a 900 MHz signal it will not work. Switching the band from phone settings will have no effect unless with proper H/W and RSU version.

ok fellas ...
i went from :
rom version: 3.17.03 ENG
rom date: 5/15/03
radio version : 4.17
to the upgrade :
rom version: 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US
rom date: 7/10/03
radio version : 4.17.00
courtesy of www.yorch.net
however the phone still can not pick up a signal ..
with upgrade i have not been able to switch GSM band from 900/1800 to 900 or 1900 successfully through the wallaby bootloader (after changes are made i can not get out of bootloader without doing a hard reset) :? also note the xda developers band switch tool is also present but reads error :?
also note :!:
before the upgrade
my device model no. PW10A1
after upgrade
my device model no. PW10B1
not sure if im getting any closer to the solution but im still happy at this point i havent burned up the unit ...
perhaps it is still an issue of the radio version 4.17.00 (which is the only thing i havent fooled with yet)
any thoughts on trying the radio upgrades from www.yorch.net (under upgrades) ??
if this doesnt kill me it will surely make me stronger ... i will throw a party with beer for everyone if we can get this turkey running !!
thanks again folks !

If you can read a B type on your device that means your H/W supports 900/1900 MHz. To be more sure, check the avaialble options at the GSM menu from the boot loader (Power + soft reset then Calendar button).
If it does have the 1900 MHz option, I would recommend to go for a full upgrade using the latest TMO ROM 4.01.00. It contains RSU 6.24.01 and it works perfectly well for me tho I have 900/1800 network.
Here is the link: ftp://tmobile:[email protected]:21
Be careful and good luck ...

It may be important to note at this point that the OS ROM version really doesn't have much to do with whether or not the phone gets a signal. XDA I is either 900/1800 (PW10A) or 900/1900 (PW10B). (Please note that this model number should be taken from the sticker on the back, not from what the OS says it is.)
If you have a 900/1800 phone, it will not do 900/1900, and vice-versa. Exceptions are said to exist, probably in places where a 1900 provider is really low in the band (or an 1800 provider really high), but this is not recommended and unlikely to work very well.
Band switching is done manually with an extra tab in the Phone Options page between 900 and 1900 in US ROMs, or automatically between 900/1800 in all others. There is also a band-switch in the bootloader, which always offers all possibilities (900, 1900, and 900/1800). After selecting the correct band for your phone, you may need to hard-reset with the SIM removed a few times before the phone 'understands' it is to use another band.
If you want a tri-band phone, get an XDA II. The XDA II by the way comes with vastly improved radio performance. Unlike the original XDA, I can use it in areas with not-so-great coverage.

>any thoughts on trying the radio upgrades from www.yorch.net (under >upgrades) ??
Yeap you're needed of a Radio Stack upgrade, as you have seen 4.17 won't work in the US. So I suggest you upgrade to the AT&T or the T-Mobile stack.
HTH

ROM: 4.01.00 ENG
Radio: 6.24.01
i would love to try this upgrade ...
can anyone tell me where i could download it? :?
thanks

Go to www.yorch.net you'll find it in the upgrades portion of the site

Peter Poelman wrote
There is also a band-switch in the bootloader, which always offers all possibilities (900, 1900, and 900/1800)
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Thx Peter Poelman so much for this great info, but my original Qtek 1010 never showed the 1900 Mhz option in the boot loader menu and it was PW10A.
Now as I replaced the main board with a one taken from a used TMO device it shows the 1900 option both in the GSM menu and in the phone settings in ROM (I 'm using 4.01.00 now) and the device type is PW10B
Does that mean that the GSM menu shows only what the device H/W can actually support, or it's part of the RSU file contents which may give a fake option of the 1900 MHz ?
Thanks again for correcting our info

saqibj said:
Go to www.yorch.net you'll find it in the upgrades portion of the site
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You can also get it via FTP at:
Host address: 130.39.48.102
Port: 21
Login: tmobile
Password: rom
HTH

thanks for the info ...
i cant seem to get to this site successfully ... perhaps im going about it all wrong ... any chance you could spoon feed it to me .. ?

Biso007 said:
Does that mean that the GSM menu shows only what the device H/W can actually support, or it's part of the RSU file contents which may give a fake option of the 1900 MHz ?
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The sticker on the back (and nothing else) tells it all:
PW10A = 900/1800
PW10B = 900/1900

is this upgrade available from yorch ? if so ... where ..?? cant find it anywhere on the site ..
thanks

eurowerks said:
thanks for the info ...
i cant seem to get to this site successfully ... perhaps im going about it all wrong ... any chance you could spoon feed it to me .. ?
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You need to use a program like CuteFTP or WS_FTP LE
CuteFTP can be found at:
http://www.cuteftp.com/downloads/cuteftp.asp
WS_FTP LE can be found at:
http://www.ftpplanet.com/download.htm
HTH

XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
Biso007 said:
Does that mean that the GSM menu shows only what the device H/W can actually support, or it's part of the RSU file contents which may give a fake option of the 1900 MHz ?
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The sticker on the back (and nothing else) tells it all:
PW10A = 900/1800
PW10B = 900/1900
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also note ... unit is an o2 from singapore .. i am in the US trying to access the Tmobile network ... originally it was PW10A .. after the second rom upgrade .. it switched to PW10B ... and also appears to have all 3 bands available from the bootloader .. after 3rd upgrade/downgrade to
rom 4.01.00 eng
radio 6.24.01
still appears to be PW10B1
it is searching for a signal
thoughts anyone? :?

It might be your SIM card so try it in another phone and if it works.
HTH

Unlock PPC2003

I have searched this site (fantastic site BTW) but see a lot of conflicting statements (or at least it seems that way).
I have a TMobile MDA-I (US) PPC2003
ROM version: 4.01.16.ENG
ROM date: 02/04/04
Radio version: 6.25.02
Protocol version: 324e4
I want to keep 2003 but need to unlock the SIM. Is this possible and where is the information?

you need to "downgrade" to the SER ROM, unlock your machine, and then Restore back your ROM, or upgrade it to something else

What is the SER ROM?
what vresion to I have to downgrade it to?
Where would I find the software and exact steps?
Are they any issue with doing this?

www.xda-developers.com/SER/
or just try the unlock tool at www.xda-developers.com/XDAunlock/

Unlocking a T Mobile USA Pocket PC Phone Edition
All you have to do is call T Mobile USA's Customer Care and just tell the CSR you're going to be travelling overseas and will be using a prepaid SIM from one of the local wireless carriers over there. The CSR should be able to provide you with the unlock code provided you've had continuous wireless service with them for a minimum of 90 days and your wireless account is financially current. Cheers!

Thanks all, I like the overseas idea. Any hints as to places to travel where this is possible. I don't want to say I am going to the Bahamas (example) and have them tell me that the phone will not work there anyway.

Same Issue on PPC2003
I installed the SER and I'm still locked ("error finding unlock code"). Any ideas.
Radio Stack 6.25

SER ROM and XDAunlock or Manipulator cannot work under radio stack 6.25 (T-mobile USA) or A33 (Siemens AT&T).
I developed new tools to unlock them!
:wink:

Cgigate, have you posted the new tools to unlock that version of radio stack? Also is there any way of using xda manipulator imei feature under radiostack 4.21 as it is disabled one it meets this radio stack, I assume the developers have good reason for doing so.

cruisin-thru said:
Cgigate, have you posted the new tools to unlock that version of radio stack? Also is there any way of using xda manipulator imei feature under radiostack 4.21 as it is disabled one it meets this radio stack, I assume the developers have good reason for doing so.
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I cannot test radiostack 4.21 or any 4.xx (GSM 900/1800)(PW10B1).
I'm Canada , same as US, GSM system is GSM 1900.
I'm using GSM 900/1900 version (PW10B1)

Unlock Pocket PC 2003 Edition

Dear Members,
My brother send me a Pocket PC 2003 Edition T-Mobile. I live in Karachi Pakistan. Now I want to use it but the problem is when I want to make a call it asks me about SID Code. the configuration of my Pocket PC is
Model No. PW10B1
Rom Version: 4.01.16 ENG
Rom Date: 02/04/04
Radio Version: 6.25.02
Protocol: 324e4
Flash Chip Type: 28F128
So, kindly advise me step by step to solve my problem.
Thanks and best regards,
Farhan

Go through this and see where it lands you.. i will try to locate solution for a Tmobile if posssible.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/UnlockWiz
regards
ﺮﻮﻤﻴﺗ

Hi
your device is locked and designed to use 900/1900 MHz networks.
if your network doesn't support 900 MHz, don't bother yourself with this device.
in case yes, try to unlock using this tool www.xda-developers.com/XDAunlock/
if doesn't work, then u have to flash ur ROM with the SER 1.2

Do not try to mislead people!
The XDA-developers unlocking Tools cannot work with USA version XDA (GSM 900/1900) when the XDA upgraded to 2003 OS's radio stack (T-mobile Radio 6.25 or Siemens Radio stack A33).
I have developed new tool to unlock them~!

cgigate said:
Do not try to mislead people!
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I don't think I have this intention ... maybe you better watch your language!
cgigate said:
I have developed new tool to unlock them~!
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Sure! ... then why don't you show us this skill and be as generous as those good guys in this forum!!

Can not pick up the network after finally unlocking..HELP;-)

Hello,
How are you?
After finally managing to unlock my xda, it does not find any networks!
My ROM Version is 4.01.12 ENG
ROM date 12/22/03
Radio Version 6.24.00
Protocol version 324e4
Does anyone know of this problem?
Please help me.. I was so happy to unlock it and now i have run into this problem....
I have read that you shouldn't play with the gsm menu in the bootloader screen.. well i did play with them before i knew i shouldn't. Could this be the problem?
Is there a way to reset it?
Should I go to a different radio version?
Please help,
I live in France and I am on the french bouygtel network. I believe this is a 900/1800 gsm network.
Thank you,
monza

Re: Can not pick up the network after finally unlocking..HEL
monza said:
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Radio Version 6.24.00
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Should I go to a different radio version?
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this is a 900/1800 gsm network.
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6.24.00 radio is for PWA10B1 and for 900/1900 networks only (for USA).
If you have a PWA10A1 model (check the back of your PDA), you should use 4.21.00 for 900/1800. Note: upgrading Radio Stack is very risky, do it for your own responsibility! So after you downgraded to 4.21, enter bootloader, press calendar button then select "900/1800" and soft reset.
You can get 4.21 radio stack from here:
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_V4.21_PPC.zip for the ppc install version and
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_V4.21.zip for the activesync version. I remind you, upgrading radio stack is risky!!
Search in the forums how to upgrade radio stack.
Oh, and entering bootloader makes a hard reset.

KTamas... Thank you very very very much...
Thank you very very very much.....
You are a god ;-)
It worked.

Compatibility of SEROM with Radio A.20.10
I had been asking a similar question elsewhere in the forum.
Given these device specs,
ROM Version : A.21.02 ENG
ROM date: 10/17/03
Radio Version : A.20.10
Protocol version : 324e4
Carrier : AT&T GSM/GPRS in the USA,
would you know if the version of the Special Edition ROM v1.2 available on this site (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/SpecialEditionROM) should be compatible with this radio stack or not? I would not want to do a RS up/downgrade if I can avoid it.

Re: KTamas... Thank you very very very much...
monza said:
Thank you very very very much...It worked.
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You're welcome

Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
I've just acquired a T-Mobile (unlocked) and want to use it in New Zealand, which has a European setting, 900/1800. The T-Mobile is a PW10B1, which I think is setup to operate on a different frequency.
Can I swap the radio stack to operate on my local GSM network, or will I fry the PDA.
If I do swap the radio stack, and it fails - is there a ROM which I can use to rebuild the PDA with instructions on how to do this (URLS and links would be VERY much appreciated!)
Thanks, Hamish

Re: Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
HamishM said:
I've just acquired a T-Mobile (unlocked) and want to use it in New Zealand, which has a European setting, 900/1800. The T-Mobile is a PW10B1, which I think is setup to operate on a different frequency.
Can I swap the radio stack to operate on my local GSM network, or will I fry the PDA.
If I do swap the radio stack, and it fails - is there a ROM which I can use to rebuild the PDA with instructions on how to do this (URLS and links would be VERY much appreciated!)
Thanks, Hamish
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PWA10B1 is for 900/1900 ONLY. You cant swap radio strack - if your provider works on 900 mhz, then you have to use it on that freq.

T-Mobile in NZ (from Canada)
Thanks for the reply.
Since then, I've installed a v4 radio stack (as described earlier in this thread) and the system does boot, but won't see my PC for Active Sync and also won't see the network.
I'm downloading the official T-Mobile ROM which I hope I can use, but if activesync won't work, any suggestions as to how to get the ROM loaded?
Also, is there a utility to select the network bandwidth, as there wasn't one already on the device - and I'm beginning to get a little concerned now!
Many thanks for your time so far!
-h

You can choose 900/1800 or 900/1900 from the bootloader, press/hold power while pushing reset with stylus, then when screen appears, push the button below the antenna, choose your appropriate band and from there, for model A choose 900/1800 for model B choose 900/1900. Make sure you have a working backup of your data when using this method.

Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
Thanks for your help.....I managed to get it into bootloader, but was pressing the contacts button (left) rather than the right (calendar).
I now have managed to get the device to see the local 900MHz network, so it's functioning !
Your help has been much appreciated!
-h

Any one helps me please.
I need the radio version A.20.10 for my T-mobile XDA. thanks very much

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bmh said:
I need the radio version A.20.10 for my T-mobile XDA. thanks very much
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http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_VA20.10_PPC.zip