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Hi.
I have many questions which have been skimmed across on quite a few other topics in this forum, I wish to ask more in depth questions for all you IT Brainiacs which I lookup to greatly 8)
I own a XDAIIi and a 512MB Kingston SD Card.
Using 'Storage Tools' by softwinter...
http://www.softwinter.com/storagetools.html
The SD Card is formatted:
FAT 16 (Backup FAT)
Cluster Size (The Largest Size)
I also use TomTom Navigator 3.07 with GPS 3.07.
I experience frequent lockups whilst driving.
What I am asking you guys is what is THE BEST AND ULTIMATE SD CARD to use in my XDAIIi with TomTom.
I know about all the Sandisk Ultra II/Extreme III but pocketgps.co.uk...
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/storage-card-compatibility.php
Do not advise using Sandisk cards due to their poor performance.
Do any of you guys recommened how to tweak my SD card but increasing/decreasing the cluster size or formatting the card with FAT32 !? Or are there any REG Hacks that people know of how to increase the stability of the XDAIIi using the SD Card slot.
Also are there any solid specs of HOW fast the XDAIIi SD Slot can Read/Write to SD Cards?!
Sorry to ask such harsh, to-the-point questions but I have learn so much from this forum and will be donating money soon as if I were to ask or ring the customer services of the products I own they would charge a bomb on phone calls and not answer my questions.
This forum does neither of those
Thanks in advance,
lydiachris
SD Ram XDA IIi
The only card that I have found to reliable with the XDA IIi is the Kingston, I have the 1GB version currently formated FAT16 32 Secs, 512 bytes per sector and Tom Tom functions perfectly...Hope this helps...
Hi there. thankyou for VERY quick reply.
Please could you explain more about the way you have formatted your card.
I understand the FAT16 bit but what do you by 32 SECS and 512 bytes per sector.
Thankyou again,
lydiachris
ps. I take it that you are using the standard Kingston (blue), not the elite pro version (white)
The Kingston "Elite Pro" range is miles faster than the standard kingston SD cards, and only about 20% pricier (at http://www.picstop.com/securedigital.htm). Just replaced my Kingston 256 with an Elite Pro 1GB, and Tomtom flies! (5 times faster to load)
PS if you're using Tomtom's GPS 3.07, you might wish to change to one of the earlier versions that doesn't hijack your BT stack (Pocket GPS world has loads of info and downloads for this)
Hi there. Are you serious?!? Do you have a XDAIIi ???
I am currently using a standard blue kingston 512MB SD.
But I have just bought an Elite Pro 512MB SD Card for £33 which I am quite pleased with
Please could you post some more info on the formatting question I have posted above.
How did you format your card Fredrick_Fredrickson.
Also what does the 'Cluster Size' of an SD Card mean. I understand that if you have many large files i.e. like TomTom maps (all the individual files) then it is better to have a larger cluster size than say if you have many little files like photos.
Am I correct in saying that!?
Cheers,
Lydiachris
Ps. has anyone got one of these?!?!?!
http://www.kingston.com/digitalmedia/sdultimate.asp
Very serious!
5 times quicker to load.
Just did a quick back to back ABA test, starting up Tomtom.
Kindston Elite Pro (1GB): 15 seconds
Kingston Standard (256Mb): 53 seconds
Both cards formatted FAT32 with default cluster sizes.
Test on an XDAII (not XDAIIi)
Note that the new Elite Pro cards are also blue, like the standard ones.
Hi thankyou.
That is really amazing!!!!
Could you please look further into how your cards are formatted, i.e. cluster sizes.
Why FAT32??? Doesn't this cause lockups whilst your using tomtom????!!!!!
I thought that SD Cards usually work better with the FAT16 file system?
Actually, do you experience any lockups at all with tomtom???
Regarding the colour of the cards, what colour is your elite pro card???
Because if you go on the link that I posted above, they are actually the ultimate kingston card.
With 133X read / write etc...
Cheers,
lydiachris
The manufacturer of Storage Tools says (http://www.softwinter.com/storagetools_faq.html):
Q: What file system I should use FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32?
A: It depends on the storage card size. For larger cards, 64MB and up, the answer is almost always FAT32. FAT32 can be incompatible with digital cameras.
My cluster size is:
256MB standard card: 512 bytes
1GB Elite pro: 4Kb
I've not had any trouble with lockups (touch wood)
My card colour is blue, but it is definitely an Elite Pro, not an Ultimate.
Hi,
For those experiencing lockups using TomTom 3 and XDA2i please look at my thread, its not the SD card its the Phone that causes the lockups.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21002&highlight=
Cheers
Blue
Hi thankyou.
But how the hell do you turn your bluetooth on with flight mode enabled?!?!
It is impossible on a XDAIIi.
UNLESS your using a wired gps receiver?!?!?
SD Card and Formatting
I don't know if anyone is interested but I have done extensive testing on my XDAIIi with my Kingston Elite Pro 512MB SD Card.
Using Spb Benchmark
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/?en
and softwinter's storage tools
http://www.softwinter.com/storagetools.html
I have tried formatting my SD Card withmany various differnt set-ups.
I.e. differnt cluster sizes, FAT 16 and FAT 32, back-up FAT or not.
And by using the 'storage card' benchmark option on SPB Benchmark I have found that my Kingston Elte Pro card functions best and fastest by formatting it like this...
FAT16
512 byte Sector Size
64KB Cluster Size
Backup FAT - NO.
Hope this helps some people, maybe other people can try with their makes of storage card and post their results.
The next 'best' format was with..
FAT32
512 byte Sector Size
32KB Cluster Size
Backup FAT - NO
Also another observation I made was if you format the card using the first set up but have
Backup FAT - YES
There is a significant decrease in speed operation.
As I said above I format my cards in my XDAIIi or through my laptops media card reader.
Hope this helps!!
Happy testing 8)
Cheers,
lydiachris
how can i reformat my minisd card? I have a card reader built into my laptop, but that won't reformat it. Is there any good free software I could use to reformat it?
I have used my card reader in my dell monitor several times to reformat my miniSD cards for both my MPx220 and my 8125.
is there any other way, because mine doesnt reformat it.
I use WM5Storage on my K-Jam which lets your SD card act as an external storage device on a seperate Drive on your pc. I simply use my Pc's format option on the drive to clean it all out or defragement.
Cheers mate.
syalam said:
is there any other way, because mine doesnt reformat it.
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You mention about not able to reformat the card using card reader, but can't it be reformated using your device, from the PDA itself?
You can format the miniSD on the Wizard by grabbing a copy of Pocket Mechanic from Handango; IIRC the demo version will format.
Does your card reader not read the card at all, or is it just not capable of formatting? If the former, you might consider picking up an IOGear USB card reader -- it's basically a USB thumb drive that you can stick your miniSD into. In the states, CompUSA has them for $10; cheaper than buying Pocket Mechanic.
pocket mechanic did the trick! thanks! just curious..i shouldve reformatted in FAT16 right? im assuming so since my card is working properly
Either FAT16 or FAT32 should work; I prefer FAT32.
whats the difference between FAT16 and FAT32
For one thing, FAT16 volumes are limited to 2GB in size, whereas FAT32 can go up to 2TB. Also FAT32 usually results in less wasted space. Check out the FAT32 Resource Page for more info.
Couldn't Use mini SD after PC format.
Hi,
I'm using MDA Vario. I bought 2 Gig storage card. At the first time, my MDA was able to recognize my 2 Gig mini SD. Then I put the card on the card reader on my Laptop in order to copy some file. There was a comment on the dialogue box in my laptop that my 2 Gig mini SD has not been formated and the dialog box offered me to format it. Then I clicked yes to proceed the formatting process. By the end of the formatting process, the dialouge box on my laptop stated that my mini SD has 4 Gig total capacity and 2 Gig in bad sector.
Unfortunatelly, after I formated my 2 Gig mini SD using my laptop; My 2 Gig mini SD could not be recognized by my MDA, but my laptop is still able to recognize my 2 Gig mini SD card.
Up to the present I have not been able to use my 2 Gig mini SD on my Wizard since I format it using my Laptop.
I also has formated my 128MB and 256MB mini SD cards using the same laptop and it works on my MDA.
I tried to use Pocket mechanic, but it didn't recognise my mini SD.
Could you please help me to fix the problem?
regards,
Stones
ok so apparently its best to format to FAT32 32cluster right? but is FAT32 the same as just FAT 32cluster size or not? having problems achieving both
you cant choose these options through sd format on the phone and if i try to do it through my pc via usb Disk Drive connection, on windows format i can choose either -
file system: FAT (default)
Allocation unit size: 32 kilobytes
OR
file system: FAT32
allocation size:lots of options but not 32!
also tried a pc card formatter i saw in another post but that doesnt give many options and when its formatted it says its just to 32
card is a sandisk 2 gig not sure of the class? just came with the phone
maybe a 2gig micro sd doesnt support 32k clusters in fat32?
try upgrading to a 4 or 8 gb card. maybe even a class 4 or 6
yeah maybe. might have to invest in one. surely that would then make android more reliable also???
I've read and found through my experience that my Roms run best with a 4096 cluster size. Any time I tried another size I would get stuck in the crazy fsck check with a large amount of those files all over my card. Though I have also been told that bigger is better.
Basically all my sd cards have been formatted like this.
format x: /fs:FAT32 /a:4096 /v:android /q
x - being whatever drive you have assigned to your phone
android - being whatever label you wish
Never a problem since.
I use 64 cluster size formatted using pc and it works great for me. Supposedly it gives you less space but faster r/w speed. I've never had an issue with space using stock 16 gig class 2 card and runs every build I've flashed great.
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Yes, honestly, you absolutely can run a 64GB microSDXC in a Kaiser. At least I can verify that with WM6.5. I'm using the 64GB card in my HD2 with no problems. I figured it should work in a Kaiser too, so I tried it in my wife's Tilt. I installed my SanDisk 64GB class 10 micro SDXC card in my wife's Tilt and it worked flawlessly. The phone does read the full 64GB and can access it all (less the usual overhead). You do have to reformat it first as it comes formatted exFAT, which can't be read (someone on the HD2 forum has said WP7 can handle exFAT, but I don't run WP on anything so I can't say). It needs to be formatted in FAT32 for WM. The kicker with that, if you try to format it in your PC, is that MS has deemed that FAT32 is 32 GB max (hence the name FAT32, duh) and if you use the inbuilt format feature in any recent version of Windows, it will only format it in exFAT or NTFS. I also tried using a program called SDFormatter but it would not allow me to format in FAT32 either. There is a way to do it from a DOS command but... I ended up using EaseUS Partion Master Home Edition, which is a free program. It worked a charm, and was very fast as well, Then I xxcopy'ed my SD card contents onto the new 64GB card and installed it in the phone. Both my 32GB and my 64GB are class 10s. I use XXcopy to keep a backup of my SD card on my computer, just in case. I update the backup every couple weeks or if I have updated anything on the phone significantly. My wife's Tilt is running ahmedfikry's wm6.5 light rom. When the 128GB microSDXC comes out (and who knows when that will be), it should work in the Kaiser as well. Bottom line is that once reformatted, any micro SDXC card should work in any device designed for microSDHC, regardless of the crad's capacity. So we may someday be running 2TB cards in these old phones. Yeeehaw! Of course you're still stuck with the limits of FAT32, but having extra storage will be nice. BTW I got my 64GB microSDXC card from Buy.com for <$48 including shipping so it's not like these are really all that spendy anymore. For anyone like me who uses their phone as an mp3 player, this is a real plus. Even back when I was using a Tilt, I had my 32 GB card pretty well maxed out with all my mp3 files.
I have some questions to pose regarding the Sandisk Ultra 64GB Class 10 microSDXC.
I bought it about a month ago, and when i first put it into my Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505, it didn't read anywhere near 64GB. Hence, i formatted the new microSD with Samsung's format option, and it showed 59.48GB. Worked perfectly from there.
However, i find the default file system of the microSD card really slow in transferring files when i connect my phone to the PC via USB, with the microSD mounted on my phone. I have a Kingston microSD reader, so i used it to connect my microSD to the PC, and tried to wipe and format it to FAT32. After doing so, the storage size became like 27GB. Is there a way to make my microSD running FAT32 system and get it to work on both my PC and phone without any problems with the size?
Anyway, i formatted the microSD again with Samsung's format option, and it went back to normal 59.48GB. However, i used my microSD reader to connect it to the PC, and it couldn't read the microSD card. It prompts me to format it. Is it because my microSD reader does not work with microSDHX cards? Or is it because my Windows PC cannot read the microSD's file system?
Hope someone has an answer, thanks.
P.S I posted this as a reply to an old thread, but realised it was in the Galaxy S3 forum, so i figured i'll post it here.
So you could use the memory card in your card reader after formatting the card as FAT32?
What OS are you running on your PC? If it's Windows XP, support for exFAT needs to be added. You can find more on this here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955704
Same problem here.samsung micro sdhc 64gb card with windows 7 and 8.my computer only recognises my card after formating on windows and the storage size goes down to only 30.5 GB.any solution?
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paradise220 said:
Same problem here.samsung micro sdhc 64gb card with windows 7 and 8.my computer only recognises my card after formating on windows and the storage size goes down to only 30.5 GB.any solution?
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Format it as ExFat from PC link ...
paradise220 said:
Same problem here.samsung micro sdhc 64gb card with windows 7 and 8.my computer only recognises my card after formating on windows and the storage size goes down to only 30.5 GB.any solution?
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Make a low level format.
utilities for that can be found on google..
worktorest said:
I have some questions to pose regarding the Sandisk Ultra 64GB Class 10 microSDXC.
I bought it about a month ago, and when i first put it into my Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505, it didn't read anywhere near 64GB. Hence, i formatted the new microSD with Samsung's format option, and it showed 59.48GB. Worked perfectly from there.
However, i find the default file system of the microSD card really slow in transferring files when i connect my phone to the PC via USB, with the microSD mounted on my phone. I have a Kingston microSD reader, so i used it to connect my microSD to the PC, and tried to wipe and format it to FAT32. After doing so, the storage size became like 27GB. Is there a way to make my microSD running FAT32 system and get it to work on both my PC and phone without any problems with the size?
Anyway, i formatted the microSD again with Samsung's format option, and it went back to normal 59.48GB. However, i used my microSD reader to connect it to the PC, and it couldn't read the microSD card. It prompts me to format it. Is it because my microSD reader does not work with microSDHX cards? Or is it because my Windows PC cannot read the microSD's file system?
Hope someone has an answer, thanks.
P.S I posted this as a reply to an old thread, but realised it was in the Galaxy S3 forum, so i figured i'll post it here.
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use a program such as H2testw to see if your microsd card is fake or defective . You can get it from here or google it .
paradise220 said:
Same problem here.samsung micro sdhc 64gb card with windows 7 and 8.my computer only recognises my card after formating on windows and the storage size goes down to only 30.5 GB.any solution?
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I found the solution. The Kingston USB reader that i used is actually not compatible with my Sandisk MicroSDXC. That's the reason it couldn't read my microSD when i connected it to the PC. I used the SD card adapter that came with the microSD on a newer laptop which has the port, and it read my card perfectly.
Anyway, i ended up putting my microSD back to my phone and formatting it using the Samsung option. Then, i used a program to format the microSD to FAT32, which i don't think is actually necessary as there wasn't any reading/writing speed difference when it came to transferring files.
Cheers.
Micro SDHC 64GB 10 Series
I wonder if someone can help me.
I purchased a Micro SDHC 64GB 10 Series memory card on Ebay - Brand new.
When I opened the packaging, the card first asked me to format the card fr use. At first, The SDHC card worked fine.
But now when I attempt to use it via laptop, The SDHC card doesn't show up on "My Computer"
It's like the card isn't reading at all..
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Using Official Windows 8
Using Multi-Card Reader - SDHC support
CaptainPorkie23 said:
I wonder if someone can help me.
I purchased a Micro SDHC 64GB 10 Series memory card on Ebay - Brand new.
When I opened the packaging, the card first asked me to format the card fr use. At first, The SDHC card worked fine.
But now when I attempt to use it via laptop, The SDHC card doesn't show up on "My Computer"
It's like the card isn't reading at all..
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Using Official Windows 8
Using Multi-Card Reader - SDHC support
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I've been playing with Windows since Android's grandfather was a tadpole, so in a combination of research and personal expertise I present the following advice...
DO NOT install a SD of a Class other than what is listed in our phone's Hardware Compatibility List - they being a Class 10 MicroSD, MicroSDHC and MicroSDXC - beyond that of 32GB, as you're only looking for trouble. Sometimes bigger is not necessarily better - just ask the people who knew the man that ate himself to death. NAND technologies are getting better by the day, but unfortunately devices grow increasingly incompatible with newer variants of MicroSD's simply because of the changes made within the firmware of the NAND controller. By changing Class outside of the scope of our phone's capability, problems can arise. Kind of like having a PC and trying to use a SATA-M drive on it. Unless you've got the physical hardware and device drivers installed, you can't expect it to work properly, same as throwing a SATA3 drive on a SATA2 port and expecting it to transfer data at over 3Gbps. If you find you are so desperate that you just can't do without having a 64GB card installed, go to eBay and grab yourself a Genuine Samsung 64GB 'Evo' Class 10 MicroSDXC. They are the fastest and highest capacity MicroSD our device will be friendly with (due to NAND controller compatibility) and at the moment they're going for good prices. Once you get it, Format the thing on your phone first, according to Samsung's instructions for installing the card. You'll then have a bit less than 60GB of storage space, along with Samsung backup if something does go wrong, simply because you're running a Samsung card in a Samsung phone. Trust me, its a great combination, proven by the fact my Samsung laptop runs like a dream on the Samsung 840Pro series SSD it has in it's belly...
djshotty said:
I've been playing with Windows since Android's grandfather was a tadpole, so in a combination of research and personal expertise I present the following advice...
DO NOT install a SD of a Class other than what is listed in our phone's Hardware Compatibility List - they being a Class 10 MicroSD, MicroSDHC and MicroSDXC - beyond that of 32GB, as you're only looking for trouble. Sometimes bigger is not necessarily better - just ask the people who knew the man that ate himself to death. NAND technologies are getting better by the day, but unfortunately devices grow increasingly incompatible with newer variants of MicroSD's simply because of the changes made within the firmware of the NAND controller. By changing Class outside of the scope of our phone's capability, problems can arise. Kind of like having a PC and trying to use a SATA-M drive on it. Unless you've got the physical hardware and device drivers installed, you can't expect it to work properly, same as throwing a SATA3 drive on a SATA2 port and expecting it to transfer data at over 3Gbps. If you find you are so desperate that you just can't do without having a 64GB card installed, go to eBay and grab yourself a Genuine Samsung 64GB 'Evo' Class 10 MicroSDXC. They are the fastest and highest capacity MicroSD our device will be friendly with (due to NAND controller compatibility) and at the moment they're going for good prices. Once you get it, Format the thing on your phone first, according to Samsung's instructions for installing the card. You'll then have a bit less than 60GB of storage space, along with Samsung backup if something does go wrong, simply because you're running a Samsung card in a Samsung phone. Trust me, its a great combination, proven by the fact my Samsung laptop runs like a dream on the Samsung 840Pro series SSD it has in it's belly...
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Good advice but I guess I'm just glad my 64gb card has been serving me well. [emoji41]