ok so apparently its best to format to FAT32 32cluster right? but is FAT32 the same as just FAT 32cluster size or not? having problems achieving both
you cant choose these options through sd format on the phone and if i try to do it through my pc via usb Disk Drive connection, on windows format i can choose either -
file system: FAT (default)
Allocation unit size: 32 kilobytes
OR
file system: FAT32
allocation size:lots of options but not 32!
also tried a pc card formatter i saw in another post but that doesnt give many options and when its formatted it says its just to 32
card is a sandisk 2 gig not sure of the class? just came with the phone
maybe a 2gig micro sd doesnt support 32k clusters in fat32?
try upgrading to a 4 or 8 gb card. maybe even a class 4 or 6
yeah maybe. might have to invest in one. surely that would then make android more reliable also???
I've read and found through my experience that my Roms run best with a 4096 cluster size. Any time I tried another size I would get stuck in the crazy fsck check with a large amount of those files all over my card. Though I have also been told that bigger is better.
Basically all my sd cards have been formatted like this.
format x: /fs:FAT32 /a:4096 /v:android /q
x - being whatever drive you have assigned to your phone
android - being whatever label you wish
Never a problem since.
I use 64 cluster size formatted using pc and it works great for me. Supposedly it gives you less space but faster r/w speed. I've never had an issue with space using stock 16 gig class 2 card and runs every build I've flashed great.
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i was wondering what the ideal way is to format an sd ultra II sandisk card. since one i have is completly untracable.. i put files on it and suddenly the are gone and the disk can't be found. i think i formatted it fat32 so i was wondering ....... my fault or sandisk fault?? any advise is welcome
oh and norton said i should low format is, but this could be because it cannot be found ...
Once you have formatted it and installed the programs you should write protect it by using the slider switch. I had a weird situation with a pcmcia memory card, it is a 1 gig card and always worked as 1 gig in my laptop, however when I put it in the pc card adaptor on my pda it saw it as 512 meg, after formatting it I have been unable to get it back to 1 gig even using partition manager on my laptop.
Is your memory card detected in a card reader on your pc? If it cant be seen by the system then it points to a hardware fault.
I have here a Lexar 128 meg sd card, it works great in any other pda and it works on xda2 however the xda1 doesnt see it at all, it seems all memory cards are not born equal.
Hi.
I have many questions which have been skimmed across on quite a few other topics in this forum, I wish to ask more in depth questions for all you IT Brainiacs which I lookup to greatly 8)
I own a XDAIIi and a 512MB Kingston SD Card.
Using 'Storage Tools' by softwinter...
http://www.softwinter.com/storagetools.html
The SD Card is formatted:
FAT 16 (Backup FAT)
Cluster Size (The Largest Size)
I also use TomTom Navigator 3.07 with GPS 3.07.
I experience frequent lockups whilst driving.
What I am asking you guys is what is THE BEST AND ULTIMATE SD CARD to use in my XDAIIi with TomTom.
I know about all the Sandisk Ultra II/Extreme III but pocketgps.co.uk...
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/storage-card-compatibility.php
Do not advise using Sandisk cards due to their poor performance.
Do any of you guys recommened how to tweak my SD card but increasing/decreasing the cluster size or formatting the card with FAT32 !? Or are there any REG Hacks that people know of how to increase the stability of the XDAIIi using the SD Card slot.
Also are there any solid specs of HOW fast the XDAIIi SD Slot can Read/Write to SD Cards?!
Sorry to ask such harsh, to-the-point questions but I have learn so much from this forum and will be donating money soon as if I were to ask or ring the customer services of the products I own they would charge a bomb on phone calls and not answer my questions.
This forum does neither of those
Thanks in advance,
lydiachris
SD Ram XDA IIi
The only card that I have found to reliable with the XDA IIi is the Kingston, I have the 1GB version currently formated FAT16 32 Secs, 512 bytes per sector and Tom Tom functions perfectly...Hope this helps...
Hi there. thankyou for VERY quick reply.
Please could you explain more about the way you have formatted your card.
I understand the FAT16 bit but what do you by 32 SECS and 512 bytes per sector.
Thankyou again,
lydiachris
ps. I take it that you are using the standard Kingston (blue), not the elite pro version (white)
The Kingston "Elite Pro" range is miles faster than the standard kingston SD cards, and only about 20% pricier (at http://www.picstop.com/securedigital.htm). Just replaced my Kingston 256 with an Elite Pro 1GB, and Tomtom flies! (5 times faster to load)
PS if you're using Tomtom's GPS 3.07, you might wish to change to one of the earlier versions that doesn't hijack your BT stack (Pocket GPS world has loads of info and downloads for this)
Hi there. Are you serious?!? Do you have a XDAIIi ???
I am currently using a standard blue kingston 512MB SD.
But I have just bought an Elite Pro 512MB SD Card for £33 which I am quite pleased with
Please could you post some more info on the formatting question I have posted above.
How did you format your card Fredrick_Fredrickson.
Also what does the 'Cluster Size' of an SD Card mean. I understand that if you have many large files i.e. like TomTom maps (all the individual files) then it is better to have a larger cluster size than say if you have many little files like photos.
Am I correct in saying that!?
Cheers,
Lydiachris
Ps. has anyone got one of these?!?!?!
http://www.kingston.com/digitalmedia/sdultimate.asp
Very serious!
5 times quicker to load.
Just did a quick back to back ABA test, starting up Tomtom.
Kindston Elite Pro (1GB): 15 seconds
Kingston Standard (256Mb): 53 seconds
Both cards formatted FAT32 with default cluster sizes.
Test on an XDAII (not XDAIIi)
Note that the new Elite Pro cards are also blue, like the standard ones.
Hi thankyou.
That is really amazing!!!!
Could you please look further into how your cards are formatted, i.e. cluster sizes.
Why FAT32??? Doesn't this cause lockups whilst your using tomtom????!!!!!
I thought that SD Cards usually work better with the FAT16 file system?
Actually, do you experience any lockups at all with tomtom???
Regarding the colour of the cards, what colour is your elite pro card???
Because if you go on the link that I posted above, they are actually the ultimate kingston card.
With 133X read / write etc...
Cheers,
lydiachris
The manufacturer of Storage Tools says (http://www.softwinter.com/storagetools_faq.html):
Q: What file system I should use FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32?
A: It depends on the storage card size. For larger cards, 64MB and up, the answer is almost always FAT32. FAT32 can be incompatible with digital cameras.
My cluster size is:
256MB standard card: 512 bytes
1GB Elite pro: 4Kb
I've not had any trouble with lockups (touch wood)
My card colour is blue, but it is definitely an Elite Pro, not an Ultimate.
Hi,
For those experiencing lockups using TomTom 3 and XDA2i please look at my thread, its not the SD card its the Phone that causes the lockups.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21002&highlight=
Cheers
Blue
Hi thankyou.
But how the hell do you turn your bluetooth on with flight mode enabled?!?!
It is impossible on a XDAIIi.
UNLESS your using a wired gps receiver?!?!?
SD Card and Formatting
I don't know if anyone is interested but I have done extensive testing on my XDAIIi with my Kingston Elite Pro 512MB SD Card.
Using Spb Benchmark
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/?en
and softwinter's storage tools
http://www.softwinter.com/storagetools.html
I have tried formatting my SD Card withmany various differnt set-ups.
I.e. differnt cluster sizes, FAT 16 and FAT 32, back-up FAT or not.
And by using the 'storage card' benchmark option on SPB Benchmark I have found that my Kingston Elte Pro card functions best and fastest by formatting it like this...
FAT16
512 byte Sector Size
64KB Cluster Size
Backup FAT - NO.
Hope this helps some people, maybe other people can try with their makes of storage card and post their results.
The next 'best' format was with..
FAT32
512 byte Sector Size
32KB Cluster Size
Backup FAT - NO
Also another observation I made was if you format the card using the first set up but have
Backup FAT - YES
There is a significant decrease in speed operation.
As I said above I format my cards in my XDAIIi or through my laptops media card reader.
Hope this helps!!
Happy testing 8)
Cheers,
lydiachris
I currently have a 2GB MicroSD card with a GPS program loaded on it. The card was provided to me by the manufacturer. I prefer not to constantly switch the card out to put in a 6GB one that holds music, movies, photos, etc...
I tried to simply copy the contents of the GPS card to my new 6GB one and when I start the program I get a hardwareID error.
I figure it has something to do with the volume serial number or possibly the mbr/disk signature, but not sure. Anyone know of any utilities that can assign the volume number? additionally anyone have any ideas of what the software could be checking against on the hardware?
I'm not in anyway trying to cheat on licensing, it is just purely an inconvenience.
micro sd
I think the max size is 4Gb
I have the 6GB card working fine on the tilt.
Of course anything past 2GB has to be formatted FAT32, so the 2GB is FAT, while the 6GB card is FAT32, but other than that, it works fine for storing music, documents, videos, etc, just not for my GPS program that seems to be locked to that particular 2GB microsd card.
That's the exact reason I won't buy any GPS prog from a vendor that locks it to a particular memory card.
Can a sd card be partitioned ?
If so set up a 2 gig fat 16 and a 4 gig fat 32!
I don't know if it can be done or if it will work.
v8s10chevy said:
Can a sd card be partitioned ?
If so set up a 2 gig fat 16 and a 4 gig fat 32!
I don't know if it can be done or if it will work.
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Don't believe it can be partitioned.
W_P_L said:
I think the max size is 4Gb
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I got 6GB and it works. A friend of my has a 8GB card and it works.
In theory the SDHC system can work till 32GB
v8s10chevy said:
Can a sd card be partitioned ?
If so set up a 2 gig fat 16 and a 4 gig fat 32!
I don't know if it can be done or if it will work.
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With a little trickery they can be partitioned in XP/Vista using diskpart, etc., but they won't be visible to WM5/6 then.
Kinda useless if you want it to work with your Kaiser
It could be a bad flash card (either one). Try copying folders one at a time from the 2GB to the 6GB card, instead of all at once. Do the file transfer on a desktop PC, as WM6 might choke when doing large file transfers between FAT and FAT32 (not that its a known bug, but hey, its Windows...).
Hi guys,
i just bought a class 6 high speed microsd card at target and i did some experiments before putting android on it.
I connected the phone using the disk drive mode, and
I transferred a big file using the standar 32kb cluster size (formated with the phone) and i got write speeds up to (4.31 mb/s)
then i formated the same sd card using windows 7 and set the cluster size to 64kb
the i transferred again the same file but this time i got the speed up to (5.9 mb/s)
android boots fine, and i notice a big improvement against the class 2 card,
i wonder if there would be any problem if i use this 64kb cluster size? is anybody else using this cluster size? thank you,
In theory: bigger cluster size giving better performance, but you waste more disk space.
Everything will be ok.
So I have a 64gb sandisc u1 card, in partition magic it shows the usable space as a partition in between a small set of unpartitioned space and a large set.
All space = 2tb
Thoughts?
Explinations?
Exploits?
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I dont know.....
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You tried to download file biger than 64 gb on this card?
I didnt mod it yet. Its from bestbuy and leget in size reporting 59gb currently. I do not buy flash memory off ebay. I do not reformat flash drives in ways that I am uneduacted about [increasing size that is, im well versed in partition magic]
I know my 16gb class 4 kingston never did anything like that, it showed leget always.
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Where is a file larger than 64gb? Not even a 3d high def video lol
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Well you can always download several large files and see till where u can copy
What file system is being used? Windows doesn't like FAT32 drives over 32GB. It will R/W to them fine but refuses to format them. 2TB is the maximum size for FAT32 drives IIRC so that is probably where you are getting that number from. I own a 64GB microSD and my advice would be to format it in an Android phone and once done it should report something like 59GB space available.
It dose this on fat 32, exfat, or ntsf
Partition magic dose not equate windows formaring tool
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I'm getting a similar problem,
I need to format my SD card with 2 partitions for my phone, for a link2sd app
but my 64gb Micro SD is showing as 27gb when i put it in my computer
spunker88 said:
What file system is being used? Windows doesn't like FAT32 drives over 32GB. It will R/W to them fine but refuses to format them. 2TB is the maximum size for FAT32 drives IIRC so that is probably where you are getting that number from. I own a 64GB microSD and my advice would be to format it in an Android phone and once done it should report something like 59GB space available.
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I thought Fat32 supported up to 4TB?
It might. I know for a fact it will do 2tb I have a 4tb drive half ntsf half fat32
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Have you tried looking at it with another partition editor? Does your hardware that you are using to read the card support SDXC properly? I highly doubt that it has more than the advertised 64GB of space, considering what a loss that would be for them to manufacture.
Fixed for Samsung 32gb class 10 uhs-i
My new Samsung 32gb Plus class 10 uhs-i also showed up as a 2TB drive with a 32gb fat32 partition in partition magic I even upgraded to the latest version of PM but it still showed as 2tb
I fixed it by swapping the usb adapter I was using :victory: now shows as a 32gb drive in PM It would have been nice to have a 2tb card though :laugh: If you are using a card adapter this also may cause errors if the card reader in the pc is old or has out of date firmware mine just plain refused to read it so hardware problem rather than software
Hope this helped :good:
If you bought the 64GB card and it showed as 2TB on computer display, 99.99% was the computer-end problem such software reading incorrectly.
votinh said:
If you bought the 64GB card and it showed as 2TB on computer display, 99.99% was the computer-end problem such software reading incorrectly.
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Dude it was 150% certain the USB Card reader & not the software I speak from actual experience & not something I found on Google.
Some older or cheap card readers do not display the correct values back to the software. The built in drivers of some USB card readers cannot accommodate these new type's & size of card. Exactly the same issue can exist with the built in pc & laptop card readers that's why you may have to make sure the driver is up to date if the size reads strangely :good:
bigrammy said:
Dude it was 150% certain the USB Card reader & not the software I speak from actual experience & not something I found on Google.
Some older or cheap card readers do not display the correct values back to the software. The built in drivers of some USB card readers cannot accommodate these new type's & size of card. Exactly the same issue can exist with the built in pc & laptop card readers that's why you may have to make sure the driver is up to date if the size reads strangely :good:
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Firstly, what I meant was it is NOT the uSD itself that causing the problem or the confusion.
Secondly, FYI, "The built in drivers of some USB card readers" is a piece of software. I hope you understand what the driver is
Check if the partition table is a MSDOS one.. And upgrade your drivers..
I love windows for that.. it found a flash drive size of -2147483647... No, this flash drive didn't destroy 2GB of my hard drive x)
Formatting error...
This has happened before.
There was a chinese website where you could buy 2TB USB Sticks, but they were just 8GB sticks re-formatted to 2TB and they didnt function as 2TB.
I believe something like this may have happened.
You need to run tests for this, try seeing how much space there is using different programs that expore it.
If possible, try and accumulate files that are over 64GB in space, some movies/games/torrents etc. and copy them to the card.
If it's more, then lucky you
Peace,
shandy1996
I give up
Advice rejected by people who all know better than I.
Waste your time by all means & mess with the software of your pc. Overload the sdcard and screw it permanently :crying:
Maybe you could just try a different USB card reader simplz :laugh:
GaryFromLondon said:
I'm getting a similar problem,
I need to format my SD card with 2 partitions for my phone, for a link2sd app
but my 64gb Micro SD is showing as 27gb when i put it in my computer
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You probably need to format the other partition