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Hi i've been a long time lurker in these forums and I've learnt many things from here and just thought i should join and say hello
But i was also wondering if anybody knew when will these XDA's be released and will the comunity here dedicate themselves to taking the rom's from these version onto the XDA II
Release Date
From the article at tekguru's site it says November 1st for the IIi and first quarter of 2005 for the IIs. I may have the two models mixed up though. The difference between them as near as I can tell is a megapixel enhancement on the camera and an extra 140 mhz on the processor.
As for the ROMS, expect a LOT of activity the moment they are released.
To that end, since I notice you are in Europe, I am looking for anybody that has pre-order information for these models.
Cheers for the info i was curious if the rom will work on the older xda II as it seems a be pointless to upgrade fpr those minor improvement
I really don't know if the ROM will work on the older XDA II's. I would hope for the rest of you that they do. The difference between the XDA II and the XDA III,IIi and IIs is not enough to switch when the price tag is most likely 1000$ US.
As for the improvements not being worth the upgrade in the US, that statement does not hold true at all. The XDA II's and III's are fairly worthless in the US since they do not support the 850mhz signal. AT&T and Cingular are lying bastards when they say they are still developing the 1900Mhz signal. They are not, and they are in fact converting most of the 1900Mhz towers to 850Mhz.
Bottom line is that your only hope of getting a working cellphone in the US now is on the 850Mhz GSM band or CDMA through Verizon. TMobile sucks #*#$& along with Sprint PCS which really only leaves Cingular/AT&T which will become one provider soon anyways.
I know there are some TMobile users out there that will rush to defend, but I am only talking from my own experience where I live with their 1900Mhz GSM network.
The XDA IIs and IIi are the answers to my prayers. Not only are they XDA and totally kick #$#, but they will actually work with my provider.
Some people swear the XDA III's will actually be Quad-band and not Tri-band. All I have heard are rumors though, not detailed specs. Everybody who has tried to correct me has published the links to the XDA IIi and IIs, but those are only BASED on the XDA III model. The TMobile MDA III specs and QTEK 9090 specs (Blue Angel) indicate Tri-Band still.
T-Mobile MDA III is quadband
I know initially everywhere I read, the MDA III was just a tri-band phone. After looking into it more, the specs are clear (german only).
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/1,4855,2963-_2903-0-1-2,00.html
"Quadband-Technik für die Nutzung in Teilen der USA und Südamerika"
I hope this helps some of you.
Aloha
Tri-Band Vs. Quad-Band on the XDA III's
It has been confusing for awhile since the only quad-band specs I have ever seen were for the XDA IIs and IIi that said they were based on the XDA III (Blue Angel). The specs for the Blue Angel taking from the QTEK 9090 said they were Tri-Band.
Well thanks to Drj we have another review site that is saying it is Quad-Band.
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/details.php?id=932
Thanks to Drj for posting it.
i understand that there is a quad version coming out for the 850 frequencies of the world, not all carriers will have it as they do not need it and it costs more. i understand HTC is in negitiations with an undisclosed provider for the N.A. market.
Does anyone have an expected release date for this yet? I may be moving from the UK to the US soon so just wondering what to get and where to get it!
HTC insn't going into full scale production untill autumn.
And it's usefullness in the USA wil be somewhat limited.
It only has Tri band GSM so will be incompatible with some networks, also the 3G radio is a different standard in the USA to the Euro 3G - CDMA V W-CDMA I believe, but I'm sure someone will highlight what the acronym is. Thats why no USA networks have expressed any desire to release the Universal - maybe there will be another model bought out for the USA markets...
There will be a USA release eventually. HTC would be stupid to not make a version of the Universal that worked well in the USA.
There's lots of speculation on various message boards that HTC has already created a USA version of the Universal. Supposedly, it's being called "Apache" while it's still in testing.
There are lots of people in the USA using HTC devices right now. I can't imagine HTC deciding not to accept anymore money from those USA customers.
Pretty much everyone with an HTC device (or any other brand of Pocket PC for that matter) will give the Universal serious consideration when it's released. If HTC just ignored them, well that would not be a sound business decision.
Expect a version of the Universal to be released in the USA for use on the new EVDO networks (Sprint and Verizon).
Now Sprint and Verizon may decide not to carry the device, but I fully expect HTC to at least offer it to them.
do sprint and verizon even offer gsm(sim) cards? i bought my jam from dubai when i was over there for summer vacation and now i'm using it with cingular. and if the device is released in the US it would be a while after its released in the UK and rest of the world. If you haven't noticed USA is really behind in the cell phone market.
USA may be behind in the cell phone market, but all of the previous HTC products were released in the USA, so I don't see why the Universal would be any different.
The Wizard will be released in the USA, so why not the Universal? I could definitely see HTC ,aking a version for the USA. And probably making a CDMA version as well.
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Sorry Guys, But Cellphone Networks in USA sux! Your mobile phone carries got the "older model" planns to sell devices. Europe and Asia is at leats 5 years advanced than USA.
Here in Brazil GSM Networks are since 2002 so we got euro carriers with new terminals, 3G is already here.
HTC is preparing a special edition for you guys
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What are you talking about? USA networks may be behind, in general, but both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is pretty up to date technology.
HTC may very well be preparing a special version, but I highly doubt Brazil is getting anyting more technically advanced than the USA (from HTC at least)...
HTC sent the same Harrier and Blue Angel to the USA that they sent everywhere else. HTC is also sending the same Wizard to the USA that they sent everywhere else. Why should the Universal be any different?
Well, it might be a little different (hopefully it will be made for CDMA/EVDO).
your carriers are well behind the uk and most of the rest of the world-maybe not 5 years though!the universal will be the same as the jam release wise-asia then europe then the us.just a shame your carriers are so slow that they cannot utilise the new technology the universal bringsand what is with using a different frequency (850) is it just to be awkward?!lol.l have no doubts the universal will be available everywhere including the us
First off, I have to say that the Apache is not a CDMA version of the universal. Rather, it is a CDMA version of the wizard.
Second, yes the USA networks are a little behind the rest of the world. It sucks that we have to wait for new devices months after they have been released to the rest of the world. However, that may be changing. Check out the last couple pages of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22813&start=125
It is looking more and more like the new 6700 sprint will be releasing is the Apache. Right now the target release date is sometime from August to October. This would be amazing because it would be (as far as I know) the first 5.0 device released anywhere. It would be released in the US before Europe and Asia, and it would even be release before the wizard was released anywhere.
So maybe the US is catching up. Here's hoping
The USA networks are not lagging behind Europe and Asia. At least not all of them. Again, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is not lagging in any way. EVDO is a 3G technology, and it fully supports all the features on any of todays cell phones (even the Universal). The only thing is the networks are CDMA. But CDMA is not lagging behing the rest of the world either.
Actaully saltydawg, only verizon has EV-DO right now. Sprint won't be lauch there's till the end of the year. We should start seeing EV-DO phones coming out soon though.
As for what I said abou the USA being behind, that was mainly in reference to the delay in getting new phones to the US.
Zach
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Sprint does have EVDO right now man. Currently the only devices that officially support it are laptop data cards. People have got it working on their PPC-6600's as well though.
But yes, we should start seeing lots more EVDO devices released soon...
You have got to be kidding me if you think US networks do not lag behind European networks. By the time we get something new, Europe is already moved on to the next best thing. We are at least 2-3 if not 5-7 years behind.
SaltyDawg,
That makes more sense. I guess they just aren't really promoting that. It's pretty cool that some of the 6600s have got that to work though. There is supposed to be an official sprint update for the 6600 coming out in october I think.
Zach
We can argue all day about whether or not the US lags behind in mobile network technology. Whan I can say is that when US carriers decide to go with a technology, it does take awhile to rollout.
HOWEVER, let's think about this. All of the countries we're being compared to are approx 10% of the size of the US. Individual European countries and their respective carriers have NO IDEA what a rollout in the US takes in terms of material, resources, and most importantly, money. Even the whole of Europe doesn't compare in size to the Continental USA.
Cut us a break, guys...
GSM Technology in the US
well, you can argue all day about this but i would say that the US is way behind but we've been catching up some how ... the three main countries which keep on using CDMA is the US, Japan& Korea ... so if anybody really wants a really good phone for the verizon and sprint networks just look at what's available in japan ... they actually have 8.0Mp camera phones out ... while everybody's working on catching up here in the US ... Verizon is actually owned by VODAFONE that is why verizon was first in coming out with 3G with the help of their cousins across the pond ... which i am wondering why t-mobile doesn't use their connection being t-mobile ... the largest global wireless company (they have service in most of the countries in the industrialized world ... they even have dibs on singtel which is one of the powerful wireless carriers in asia) ...
t-mobile usa and t-mobile uk don't even work together (as per comment by one of the tech support people from t-mobile usa) ... i was trying to set up blackberry connect on my Sony Ericsson P910i which was from T-Mobile UK but our friends from T-Mobile US told me that they can't assist me ... so i ended up doing it myself ... as usual ....
hopefully the US gets hold of more phones, marketing somewhat sucks y'know ... i guess it's all about the blackberry over here in the US .... which, personally has an ugly interface and worse conventional phones which are almost as expensive as Palm, Pocket PC, and Symbian devices ...
Well the bottom line is not all USA networks a lagging way behind Europe and Asia. At least not anymore. Sprint and Verizon both have EVDO. EVDO is a 3G technology. So no way can anyone say Sprint and Verizon are lagging way behind Europe and Asia.
Now the phones they release on those networks may be a different story. But again, that has nothing to do with HTC. HTC releases the same phones in the USA that they release in Europe and Asia. So anyone saying HTC won't release the Universal in the USA is not looking at the recent history. And anyone saying all USA networks are lagging behind Europe and Asia is not looking at the present. Sprint and Verizon, with their EVDO, specifically.
UMTS in the USA
All I can say is soon, as in September/October UMTS will be deployed in 9 major cities in the US. The carrier in question already has a re-branded BlueAngel for sale. Word from marketing is that shortly after UMTS is deployed they will start carrying one of the re-branded HTC Universal devices .
Seems there has been a lot of people still speculating despite the fact that confirmed info has been available on the phone for some time. Revision 3 of the white paper details quite a lot of stuff about it and is available here on SE's developer website. You just need to enter the 4 letters to confirm you're a real person and not a robot. Interesting points (either from the white paper or an interview I saw with the phone's dev team and marketing guy:
The phone definitely HAS got proper 3D drivers. I have also seen this confirmed in an interview with the development team.
While built by HTC, the phone is engineered by Sony Ericsson; they designed it themselves apparently, HTC is just the ODM.
No Opera...ships with IE only. BOOOOOOO!
There will be a US and European version of the phone. The US version has 850MHz UMTS while the Euro has the 900MHz band instead. The US version is also crippled in some features (mainly relating to video recording/playback - only records QVGA video at 24fps when Euro does it VGA at 30fps. Also doesn't decode H264) due to some issues with patents in the US.
Comes in 2 colours: black and silver
Has a touch mouse as well as a 4 direction button controller (though sadly there are no arrow keys on the keyboard. If you look at the photos you CAN see a CTRL key though, which is great...finally keyboard shortcuts work!).
Should hit the market end of August or in September, so a bit earlier than was previously thought.
Oh and one more thing. People are commenting from pre-production phones that the panels are slow (sometimes using this to justify that it doesn't have working 3D drivers). This is due to the fact that the panel app is still being worked on and has been in debug mode on the pre-production models, or so I read...when it's compiled properly for the production model it should be much faster.
it's not really new and there have been circulating info about changes since then
Yeah I'm aware of that, just noticed that there were still some people commenting on 3d/lack of 3d drivers in here as late as yesterday so thought I'd better post it...
why i had an impression that the version sold in europe would work fully all around the world and have multiple bands to be able to use umts and everything in europe and US.. i must me mistaken then huh?
Should still work pretty much everywhere, is quad band gsm...it is just not on every band for UMTS...850 is only common in America and Australia (only on Telstra's network) as far as I'm aware...900 is more common elsewhere and will even be coming to Australia eventually I think when they stop using it for GSM...
Xperia X1a, X1c and X1i
Does anyone even knows the difference between Xperia X1a, X1c and X1i?
And if so, does anyone know which of them will be released?
There will be a US and European version of the phone. The US version has 850MHz UMTS while the Euro has the 900MHz band instead. The US version is also crippled in some features (mainly relating to video recording/playback - only records QVGA video at 24fps when Euro does it VGA at 30fps. Also doesn't decode H264) due to some issues with patents in the US.
First i guessed that the x1a was the prototype but they write about stuff like it is better on the x1c then the x1a?
In the white papers they talk about x1a and x1c what they say about x1a sounds like the US version you are talking about and the x1c sounds like the euro version u are talking about.
BTW i havent seen that the phone even has quad-band? Where did u find this info?
Which ones will be available?
And does anyone even knows a release date?
MDA Vario IV (HTC Touch Pro/Raphael) is delayed instead of mid june to 4-8 august since htc did something for this phone i guess the release of this phone is delayed to?
ThnX
nobody got anything but guesses
only official word is q4
some say september some say november
X1c is the chinese model.
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i havent seen that the phone even has quad-band? Where did u find this info?
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It is in the white paper (general technical info section).
"Quad-band EDGE
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Tri-band HSPA
•X1a: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•X1c: 900/1900/2100 MHz"
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It is in the white paper (general technical info section).
"Quad-band EDGE
•850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Tri-band HSPA
•X1a: 850/1900/2100 MHz
•X1c: 900/1900/2100 MHz"
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omfg, really sorry here i think i had just read over it.. i only saw the Tri-band HSPA.. Sorryy again.
Are there reliable specs on the amount of Ram - both included and available? I could see a pre-release device on a road show in june, and it showed only 80 MB Ram installed of which only 19 MB were free. So I guess that the device had really 128 MB on-board. However, 19 MB available Ram is not enough for applications like navigation which require lots of ram for routing purposes.
The Sony guys I talked to could not comment on this - in fact, they were somewhat surprised that anyone would inquire on the Ram on a mobile phone. Obviously they were not yet used to the world of WM6, where the customer is interested in more than just Rom for MP3-storage.
Lit
http://smape.com/en/reviews//Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1-prev.html
got some nice pictures too
Thanks
I'm in debate right now if I should just get the Note 3 from my carrier, T-Mobile, or should I get the international LTE model N9005. The N9005 will support the '4G' but not lte as it doesn't have the US bands. But I'm okay with that. One thing I really want is wireless charging (qi). As I currently have the GN2 from T-Mobile they disabled the hardware for wireless charging so it renders it a pain to even try and get it working. If the T-Mobile model has the qi in tact then I'd just go with that and have lte functionality. But if it doesn't have qi I'd just get the international model.
What are your speculations and opinions? I haven't been able to find anything on the other models aside from the N9000/2/5 which are 3G (octa-core), dual sim, and LTE models, respectively. But carrier specific models have no details. All of which supposedly will support qi. But will the US variants and other carrier specific models cripple us once again by removing features shown (not promised) on the international models?
I'm not sure it's been confirmed either way that the international N3 will not support AT&T's LTE bands. See here for more information...
You better get it from T-mobile, as it will use a different radio than the International version that works on ATT
I too I'm waiting for the T-mobile version release
Well I know the LTE of the international model is not supported in the US as the on lot compatible band is 2100 which 1700 or 1900 is missing for T-Mobile and AT&T, respectively so I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile if it does come with the qi in tact. Negri has the T-Mobile version for pre-order up for $689.50.
I don't see why wireless charging is so important since you won't have that while driving and charging or at work out in the open where someone could just walk by and take the phone it would only be a convince at home.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
If you've ever used a bb bold you'd understand the convenience of just putting the phone in the charging pod. And it can be done in the dark! And how do you figure I don't have wireless charging in the car? Or at work? Just because you may not find it useful doesn't mean anyone else doesn't. Look at the forums and you'll see how popular the topic is.
By the way, bit the bullet and pre-ordered!
I am starting an Alcholics Anonymous type club for those who are trying to hold out for an unlocked special edition of the note 3, maybe a note 3 active or a flexible screen note 3, or maybe even a Google Edition Note 3. Must. Not. Click. Order.
Samsung testing LTE model of Galaxy S4 mini (GT-I9197) in India?
Samsung is the leading smartphone manufacturer in India, but none of the company’s phones support LTE connectivity in the country. However, with India set to get its first LTE networks in the coming months, it’s a lucrative market that will see consumers demanding LTE smartphones as time goes by (in fact, the Galaxy S5 has numerous bad reviews on India’s leading online retailer due to the fact that its Exynos chip does not support true LTE connectivity.) According to import tracking site Zauba, Samsung recently shipped the Galaxy S4 mini LTE to India for testing, hinting that it is in the process of testing devices with the LTE networks in the country.
In India, only one carrier (Airtel) currently offers an LTE network, but the issue is that India uses the TD-LTE band, which is currently only supported by the iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c (the HTC One M8 supports it as well, though HTC has said that it will need a software update to actually work on local LTE networks.) The Galaxy S4 mini LTE that Samsung is testing in India won’t be sold in the country, but the company could be testing the device with custom hardware so that it can prepare the launch of LTE devices in the future.
Source: Sammobile
What are the differences between 9195 and 9197? The I9195 already has LTE, right?
Cuz thats the one I have righ now lol
just read the news, if you would like to know.
AndreAkaNick said:
What are the differences between 9195 and 9197? The I9195 already has LTE, right?
Cuz thats the one I have righ now lol
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All you had to do was read the news :silly:
but the issue is that India uses the TD-LTE band, which is currently only supported by the iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c (the HTC One M8 supports it as well, though HTC has said that it will need a software update to actually work on local LTE networks.)
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