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Club i-mate sucks...

Itried to become a member to the club i-mate.
But i can´t, because my device is called Qtek S100 not i-mate jam, It´s the same device, but the only says that i have to contact the store from where i bought it, but what can they do?????? Change the name on my device????
Conclusion:: Club i-mate sucks. :evil:

Club I-Mate is only for I-Mate Jam owners. Not for MDA Compact or Qtek owners.

Although clubimate does have many issues due to which you can fairly conclude that their support sucks, your problem however does not seem to be an issue with imate but rather with Qtek.
cubimate is for people who have bought an Imate branded device and you clearly have not. So you should be looking for a clubQtek (if one exists)... and if there is none then its the Qtek people you should be complaining to.

funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!

outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.

pelle68 said:
Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Imate and Qtek buy the magician from HTC and rebrand it. Since they sell independently and are rivals, Imate has no business serving Qtek customers.

pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Ι understand what you say, but think about I-mate. Why allow you to enter in their forum, get their know how, their info, their applications, their firmware... when you haven't paid them for buying the S100???
It's all about branding... I also have a Qtek 2020, which is the MDA II... I cannot enter in the i-mate forum like you...
Don't bother though there is nothing important to find there... The firmware updates cannot be loaded to your S100. You can download them from an official Qtek website... We in Greece have one: www.qtek.gr

pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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No, the difference is also in the content of the Extended ROM. For the Hardware, it is HTC that you can contact...
If you have a PC running Windows, you can't say that unix sucks, right ?

Fairiness in bussiness
You are all right!
I've learn the hard way that Qtek IS NOT iMate. I ordered an XDA-II from Expansys, that was out-of-stock and re-routed to be iMate, that ended up being a Qtek 2020, the price difference was even in my favour, Right?
W-R-O-N-G!!!
Qtek is almost a fake brand, (at least for my WWE version): No web page, no support, no upgrades, no forum, no----- NOTHING!
More than a year later, I gave up trying to get BT Handsfree support for my Qtek 2020, and get BT syncing at same time, so I ordered an iMate JAM from Expansys, Guess what? I just received a call from Expansys, offering me to switch to a Qtek S100!
I REFUSED!
I prefer to wait two more weeks rather than feel myself again in the wild, with no one "official" to help (Thanks ONLY to XDA developers and you guys here)
Conclussions:
HTC really sucks, since they are the ones who know how "hadicapped" their devices are, and provide no help.
Qtek sucks too, since they are making money for branding the devices and letting them unsupported.
Expansys sucks a bit too, though just for being un-informative and not advising their custommers that "manufacturing" is part of the thing, but "support is paramount" when you are talking about really new tech products that are going to need a lot of tweaking.
iMate might have their share too, but obviously not for my choosing of my Qtek 2020.
And iMate is even cheaper!
:evil: :evil: :evil:

Mythozz said:
pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Ι understand what you say, but think about I-mate. Why allow you to enter in their forum, get their know how, their info, their applications, their firmware... when you haven't paid them for buying the S100???
It's all about branding... I also have a Qtek 2020, which is the MDA II... I cannot enter in the i-mate forum like you...
Don't bother though there is nothing important to find there... The firmware updates cannot be loaded to your S100. You can download them from an official Qtek website... We in Greece have one: www.qtek.gr
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Any chance you could tell us what is new in the firmware available on http://www.qtek.gr/s100_firmware.html?
It seems to be of a later version than that of my swedish Qtek, and I would very much like to know what is in the update so I know if I should bother calling Brightpoint and ask them to put it on their web site.
Thanks!

Babelfished:
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Qtek S100 Firmware Update
ATTENTION! WITH THE UPGRADE ARE EXTINGUISHED THE DATA OF YOUR APPLIANCE! CONTACTS, PROGRAMS, SOUNDS OF CALL, PICTURES, VIDEO THAT CAN EXIST IN YOUR APPLIANCE, WILL ERASE!
Who can use Greek?
The Greek publication has been manufactured by the Ace-Hellas. The Greek publication is been disposed only for appliances that have been bought from the Ace-Hellas or her network of resellers.
What it needs I am careful?
The Qtek fortj'zej when becomes the upgrade. It should you attend it is completely fortjsme'no front you begin the upgrade.
That does become the upgrade firmware?
Attend to have passed the Activesync and exists communication with the computer. It is proposed you use some computer with Windows 2000 or Windows XP. Terminate any program you have open! Afterwards simply you execute the file that you lowered/you will lower and you follow the directives in your screen. If you face problem with the upgrade you try in some other computer. When it finishes the upgrade it will be supposed you realise hard-reset (the photograph in the end of upgrade in your computer, you shows how him makes).
I began the upgrade and in the middle to me it was cut the current and extinguished the computer (or more simply failed the upgrade).
Do not worry. The Qtek has his bootloader therefore it will be supposed after a reset you see white screen (the screen is not litted up therefore sees carefully from near distance) and is entered Serial.
1. You remove the Qtek from the base. Remove the battery for 30 seconds and xanatopoceti'ste.
2. You begin your computer regularly
3. You activate the Qtek and place in the base. The clue Serial should change in USB.
4. You execute again the upgrade.
I began the upgrade for 2nd time but failed again.
Try in some other computer. Try in computer with Windows 2000 or XP. The upgrade does not probably work rightly in Windows 95,98,ME. Also a other factor are the problematic USB Controllers (eg VIA)
Exist some does background for what it changed in the new publication?
We unfortunately do not have the changes that realises the Qtek. It follows however background for Greek:
1.1.1 (03/02/05)
- With publication 1.06 is corrected the problem with the MMS in the network of Cosmote. - Correction of orthographic errors and other errors in fo'rmes.
- Automatic regulations GPRS Internet/MMS and on the 4 networks of mobile telephony. In the Q-Telecom exists only service MMS. Attention! It should you have activated your services from pa'roho'!
- Choice permanent report in the SMS. Can activate the possibility in each new SMS is preselected the report. This him you will find in the Regulations in the choice for Language.
1.0.0 - Initial Publication (20/12/04)

pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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You mean Nissan and Toyota aren't the same? They're both transportation devices, aren't they?
Same goes for Qtek branded phones & I-Mate branded phones. The guy who started this thread is pissed because he owns a Qtek branded phone, yet can't log into the I-Mate website to get support for it? Come on.

Toyota and Nissan are by far more different from eachother than the Qtek and iMate.
If you need to use cars for your example you might want to go for something like the Opel Agila and Suzuki Wagon R. Built by the same company, looks identical, but marketed by different companies.

New BT Patch Imate

Has anyone got comments on the new BT Pacth from IMate? (attached)I want to know if people have applied it successfully to non-imate magicians, MDA, Qtek etc. Does it offer any other profiles or major improvements?

Is this even a bt patch?
I pulled it out of the Extended roms posted today, and on the club imate sit it said they had fixed BT. So this must be it?? comments

Had cross checked with the one that come with Qtek 1.06 ROM
The contents are the same, 8 files in total. All the 8 files with the same file size. Had tried the Qtek 1.06 ROM, so far I would say the Bluetooth is more stable than 1.03. Am currently using O2 mini.

US i-mate jam with sound problem

Hi,
A friend of mine who lives in the states recently bought himself an i-mate jam. He claims that the sound is really bad and says it´s like listening inside a steel pipe or something. His ExtROM is 1.06.113 WWE.
I don´t have that problem at all. I bought my Qtek s100 in Sweden. My ExtROM is 1.06.116 WWE.
Read about that this used to be a problem earlier but as I understood it should have been taken care of by now?
What tips do you have? Just walk right back to the store and try to get a new one or is it a bug that can be fixed? What´s the difference between the two ExtROM versions?
Thankful for all tips you might have!

Still needs some help.... Anyone?

Jam will receive a WM5 upgrade?

Hi all,
I am buying an i-mate jam however i am holding back since Windows Mobile 5.0 has just been released until i know if the jam will be upgradeable to the new os or not.
I would not want to buy a new device and find myself wanting to buy a new one in a month coz it wont be upgradable to wm5.
I have sent an email to i-mate but they have not yet replied.
Anyone has any clue if the jam will receive a wm5 upgrade?

I found this on the Club I-Mate forum:
Forum Administrator
Administrator
Posts: 72
Joined: 12/13/2004
Status: offline
5/11/2005 9:27:20 PM
RE: Windows Mobile 5.0? (in reply to narf23)
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Hi,
I am sorry to tell you that in the meantime we are not willing to release Windows Mobile 2005 ROM upgrade for the i-mate Pocket PC, JAM, and PDA2k.
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So according to I-Mate's forum admin its a no. However, I expect to hear several conflicting stories going forward.

Thanks for the info.
Keep us posted

Thats what i got from O2.
"Please note that O2 Asia has not offically release any plans for XdaIImini (WM2003SE) to be OS upgrade to Windows Mobile 5 OS. Thank you. "

Thanks for the replies.
I guess i will put my purchase on hold until i have some concrete news about this.

WM5 looks nice. I really hope that we'll see a version for the Magician at some time. My guess it that HTC will make a Magician2 with WM5 though.

Tjenare Loboman!
Vet du ett sätt att unlocka sin Qtek s100 gratis och om ExtROM version 1.11.132 (WWE) funkar på denna tele?
Tackar!
Björn

WaspWorld said:
Tjenare Loboman!
Vet du ett sätt att unlocka sin Qtek s100 gratis och om ExtROM version 1.11.132 (WWE) funkar på denna tele?
Tackar!
Björn
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Vet inget sätt att låsa upp gratis och ännu har inte Qtek Sverige släppt någon uppgradering, men jag rekommenderar Anansky's 27MB-ROM som kan installeras oavsett vilken Magician du har. Läs hela tråden innan du testar så slipper du massor av problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20043
(Sorry for the Swedish all you non-Swedes)

Hello!
I take it in english. What does this upgrade do?
Thanks
Björn

WaspWorld said:
Hello!
I take it in english. What does this upgrade do?
Thanks
Björn
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WWE OS ROM image in booloader sd-card backup format, patched to reach the following result:
1. ExtROM completely removed out from flash memory
2. Space of ExtROM joined to \Storage part of Magician memory, makes it extended as up, as 26,72Mb, fully readable and writable
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I've done the big storage upgrade, and it works very well. I upgraded mostly because I hade some strange issues with my previsous version, like no notification when I get email or SMS, and went through the extra pain to free up some more memory.
Anyway, the only thing suggesting that the Magician will eventually run WM5 is the fact that Microsoft has announced the system publicly. If HTC wants to sell devices between now and when WM5 hits the streets, they'd better offer an upgrade.
I'm not saying that we will ever see one, just that there are reasons why they should.

LeSkip said:
I'm not saying that we will ever see one, just that there are reasons why they should.
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They better because I refuse to purchase a new device in order to get the latest software again. My Magician isn't even 6 months old and it starts to sound like it won't even be officially supportd???

It is quite likely that the WM2005 upgrade will be offered for the JAM eventually, judging by it's immense popularity. However, it wil most likely NOT be a free upgrade, since all other manufacturers will also be charging for it.
Also, do not forget that between releasing WM 5 and a possible release for the JAM, some testing, certification and customization will have to be done by i-Mate, Qtek, T-Mobile, Orange etc etc.
The earliest that we could expect a possible upgrade to WM5 would be in 3-6 months.

I agree the Magician is very popular but we must look at i-mate's history and the device itself. imate has not released (officially) an OS upgrade to any of it's devices (please correct if I am mistaken), sure there are ROMs and updates but never a full OS. also the Magician has 64MB ROM which seems to be lacking (based on upgrade models by both hp and DELL.. which will only upgrade devices with 128MB ROM). I'd say the Magician would have a slim to nothing chance of getting WM5.0, I'll be happy to be wrong even if asked to pay for the upgrade... which is both bad and good. the bad well we'd have to buy another device if we want WM5.0, the good the popularity of the Magician may force HTC to make the next generation of Magician meaning same or close to the size but with better specifications... -> HTC Magician form factor + 128MB RAM and 128MB ROM + SDIO + Bluetooth (Broadcomm) + WiFi + Speedy Processor (I never liked the camera so I'm leaving it out), so far the only thing I've seen from HTC is the Universal which is a monster of a device compared to the Magician.

did you notice from demo presentation of BG from MEDC2k5, i saw a picture of Jam and Blueangel but not Himalaya...
So you know what i mean....wm5 also for jam and blueangel...

I'm due for upgrade next month and was going to get the jam to replace my xda2 but i'm not willing to buy it till the new os is on it..

never say never.. remember the wm2003 SEupdate for the xda2? remember the wm2005 rom for the xda2?
things happen...

I do believe that the Magician design presently still is considered by all parties involved as a so-called "Reference" device, so I have no reasons yet to doubt the likelyhood of a WM5 upgrade for the Magician type devices. I guess future will tell

I am really starting to hate my Alpine!

OK got a Himalaya and an Alpine (XDA branded) and my Himalaya is very happy now running WM2005 1.60a and the Alpine is running the O2 1.10 ROM.
I had forgotten how unstable WM2003se was compared to WM2005!
The phonepad keeps breaking, have to reinstall from cab files regularly, had to do this on the Himalaya too so it's not the particular ROM or anything I don't think.
Crashes, and lockups, corruption on the today screen that either require a soft reset or messing about changing today themes.
My problem is this, on the Himalaya running 2005, I have many apps installed to my SD card, which is fine, but when I need to use WiFi I need to unplug that to use the SDIO WLAN card, so I am unable to then use many of the programs installed.
Damn shame to let this Alpine gather dust, considering it has 128mb ram and rom, and could run 2005 so much better.
Are there any any newer English ROMs for the Alpine, or should I sit and wait with it boxed up until someone releases something else for it?

I was very annoyed at people working on 2005 for xda2 at the time as I believed that we would get grief from MS about it. It seems that, on the whole, that hasn't happened.
I got a 2i thinking that it would be the next upgrade, therefore when an even newer one comes along - ie Universal - I would be better placed to flog the 2i to pay for it. I'm almost starting to regret that decision as I would dearly love the have 2005 on my 2i...and if I had kept the xda2 I would have been enjoying 2005y goodness by now. Grrr!!
Bring on Universal that's what I say!!
Ant

AlanJC said:
OK got a Himalaya and an Alpine (XDA branded) and my Himalaya is very happy now running WM2005 1.60a and the Alpine is running the O2 1.10 ROM.
I had forgotten how unstable WM2003se was compared to WM2005!
The phonepad keeps breaking, have to reinstall from cab files regularly, had to do this on the Himalaya too so it's not the particular ROM or anything I don't think.
Crashes, and lockups, corruption on the today screen that either require a soft reset or messing about changing today themes.
My problem is this, on the Himalaya running 2005, I have many apps installed to my SD card, which is fine, but when I need to use WiFi I need to unplug that to use the SDIO WLAN card, so I am unable to then use many of the programs installed.
Damn shame to let this Alpine gather dust, considering it has 128mb ram and rom, and could run 2005 so much better.
Are there any any newer English ROMs for the Alpine, or should I sit and wait with it boxed up until someone releases something else for it?
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Yes there's other released roms for your ALPINE especially from IMATE and Qtek... So get the Pda2 WWE ROM from IMATE and try to use it on you XDA2i..
Good Luck my friend..

So get the Pda2 WWE ROM from IMATE and try to use it on you XDA2i..
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where can us xda 2i owners find th imate rom!?

Yeah, I thought you had to enter your IMEI to access images on the i-mate site.
Have you got a direct link please?

Here!

Many thanks, getting it now

Alan,
I read your thread and have similar dislikes about me Alpine. I have an O2 XDAIIi.
How did your upgrade go?
I downloaded the ROM upgrade but haven't installed it. I am really green at this and not sure how/if I should back up the ROM I have in case I need to restore. Did you do that? Can you guide me on how?
If the ROM upgrade was successful, were you able to install 2005? Again, can you point me in the direction of that download, and instructions.
Greatly appreciated,
Kyle

Try this page, it's about the most up to date ROM for the 2i at the moment. I've had no problems with it at all.

Urm.. you didn't actually post a link?
I am using the i-mate one at the moment, too many people seem to be having problems with the O2 1.11 ROM

True
Sorry, blonde moment there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25801
I reckon the problem with the new O2 ROM is the radio stack is still the original one. The radio stack on the ROM in the above link is the much better I-mate one with the updates of the O2 ROM.