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Messenger costs - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Hi everyone,
well, after having owned some form of XDA for about a year and a half (first XDA, now XDA2) I am still madly in love with it and could not live without it.
One area that I have not yet dabbled in, is the Messenger. I use it regularly on my desktop PC, but never used it on my XDA2. My question is regarding costs;
Is it expensive?
I realize that, when idle, the GPRS costs are next to nothing, but when sending and receiving messages, how much does it cost approx?
Many thanks

I must say the costs are quite low.
The sign-on process costs (if I recall correctly) about 40bytes (or was it 40k?)
After that the number of bytes used is as low as you type.
My operator makes me buy blocks of 100k. I could chat quite a while when those were almost gone.

the price very much differ from country to country and company to company i pay in MB only and it's very expensive imho
3.5 euro pr MB

rudegar: can we change? In NL I pay about 1 euro per 100K (inland) and 1,17 euro (abroad).
but still: For 100k you can chat quite a lot.
Especially abroad it might be more interesting the a voice call (roaming calls cost approx 1 euro per minute)

well i just felt it was alot compared to my gf's subscription where she only pay 1.34 euro pr MB
also she dont pay any monthly fee for the subscription at all
she dont use mms or grps though

Vodafone Italy...
Here it's about 6€ pro Mb...
And you pay 0,006€ pro 1Kb rounding at 1Kb...
Otherwise you can join what is called as "GPRS promotion" and you've to pay 20€ for one month without limit!
:shock: :shock: :shock:

That depends on what tarrif you are on. Id guess that you are on o2 Uk pay monthly. However, it would be impossible for me to guess what tarrif you are on and exactly what data allowance you have built into your price plan.
According to the o2.co.uk site, If you do not have a data tariff attached to your pay monthly price plan, then you get your first 100KB of data usage free each month. Outwith that, its £2.34 per megabyte (1024 KB)
You would have to contact o2 to know for sure what your tarrif is, however rest assured it is much cheaper then text messaging so dont worry too much.

Cool, many thanks to everyone for contributing to this post.
I guess that for short conversations on messenger, it won't cost me too much. In memory size, how much would one line of about 20 words be?

if it's asccii which i still think most such messengers use
then 1 letter including spaces is
8bit
if it's unicode then it's
16bit
so if you take 20 words and asume that they just have spaces between
then it's 18 spaces == 18*8 (if you asume it's ascii) == 144bit
and then maybe we should say each latter is about
6 letters long it's 20*6*8 == 960bit
1104bit all togther
then lets make it into bytes
1104/8 == 138bytes
so it's not that bad really

proof of the pudding is in the eating.
test it:
Put GPRS Monitor on, setup your costs.
Connect Messenger, send some lines
Check GPRS Monitor
Then you really know. (but you will have to invest though . . .)

Cool, thanks

If you have the o2 free wap tarrif you can set messenger to connect using a gsm wap connection. then you dont have to worry about costs at all!!
I have mine set up that way, and its handy when stuck in a traffic jam!! sure beats road rage :lol:

Its cheap when you compare it to SMS.
Here I pay 25cents(euro) for one sms. And I pay 1euro per 1024kb. Sorry to write so much text but this is how much you can write in a SMS:
Man on the moon.Man on the moon.Man on the moon.Man on the moon.Man on the moon.Man on the moon.Man on the moon.Man on the moon.Man on the moon.Man on the moon.
Now for the same price 25cents(euro) in an email I can write this much:
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So thats how cheap it is for writing emails with GPRS compared to SMS's. Also that is a lot of lines for chating with MSN.

youre right IF you pay 1 euro for 1MB. I pay 1 euro for 100KB.
That means 1/100 of your number of chars.
At home I use dial-up for internet (goes off my bundle)
Abroad I use gprs (cheaper than dial-up roaming)

edsub said:
youre right IF you pay 1 euro for 1MB. I pay 1 euro for 100KB.
That means 1/100 of your number of chars.
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No, it means 1/10. 1MB=1000kB, so 100kB = 0.1MB.
Even on expensive GPRS tarrifs, MSN messenger is very cheap compared with SMS. 100kB = 100000 ASCII characters, or 1000 short messages each 100 chars (approx 15 words long).

1MB == 1024kB
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bytes6.htm
http://familyinternet.about.com/cs/computinghelp/l/aa052401a.htm

Rudegar:: As always on the edge.
But Zone-MR was right on the vision by 10 instead of 100. I really need my MDAII to calculate!!!!

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Does anybody have suggestions on to why gmail would cause 48% battery usage? Seems like a lot.
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acsooley said:
Does anybody have suggestions on to why gmail would cause 48% battery usage? Seems like a lot.
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Seems to me like that would only happen if it were literally syncing constantly. I'd check into your settings.

Did a test on my phone last night. I left it off charge all night and my stats were -
Battery: 91%
Deep sleep: 82.5%
Problem is, is that I don't know if that is a good % or not. I'm new to the battery analysis game. Thanks
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GeneralRam said:
Did a test on my phone last night. I left it off charge all night and my stats were -
Battery: 91%
Deep sleep: 82.5%
Problem is, is that I don't know if that is a good % or not. I'm new to the battery analysis game. Thanks
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I don't think that's so good. When my phones screen is off, it is in deep sleep about 95% of the time. Yours at 82 seems low. Of course, the Nexus 4 is know for having battery and deep sleep problems so maybe it's normal for your phone.
-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-

GeneralRam said:
Did a test on my phone last night. I left it off charge all night and my stats were -
Battery: 91%
Deep sleep: 82.5%
Problem is, is that I don't know if that is a good % or not. I'm new to the battery analysis game. Thanks
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Is that with sync on, or sync off? +/- disabling all the battery hogging G+/Maps, etc... sync?
Wifi, or data?
On my N4, with sync off, and a good wifi connection I'm getting ~94% deep sleep though the night.
On my GN that number was 97-98%.

I have always thought Nexus 4 used Li-po battery(Gsmarena). But seems like mine is Li-Ion instead. Is yours Li-ion also?

The battery inside says lithium ion polymer. Same thing

Oh I see. It's not really the same though, Li-po batteries have long life span, while Li-ion is more convenient.
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So i'm just curious, what is the fastest charging current of the Moto X play? And how fast does it charge in 15 minutes (How much percentage)?

HerySean said:
So i'm just curious, what is the fastest charging current of the Moto X play? And how fast does it charge in 15 minutes (How much percentage)?
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I got ~2500 mah and ~25% in 15 min with QC 2.0 charger

GtrCraft said:
I got ~2500 mah and ~25% in 15 min with QC 2.0 charger
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really? i bought a QC 2.0 charger and I received only 1300 mAh :/

HerySean said:
really? i bought a QC 2.0 charger and I received only 1300 mAh :/
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Which app do you use for monitoring? You should use Ampere
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GtrCraft said:
Which app do you use for monitoring? You should use Ampere
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Oh i'm using just RR lockscreen feature "show charging current".

HerySean said:
Oh i'm using just RR lockscreen feature "show charging current".
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LOL that doesnt work, it just shows the minimal charge current that is possible. Not your actual charge rate
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GtrCraft said:
LOL that doesnt work, it just shows the minimal charge current that is possible. Not your actual charge rate
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OOooooohhh is that so? I didn't know about that, no wonder. But frankly my phone was shutdown and when I plugged the QC 2.0 charger in it said "turbo charge" exactly an hour ago, it's from 3% ~ 66% now.

HerySean said:
OOooooohhh is that so? I didn't know about that, no wonder. But frankly my phone was shutdown and when I plugged the QC 2.0 charger in it said "turbo charge" exactly an hour ago, it's from 3% ~ 66% now.
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check it with the Ampere app

GtrCraft said:
check it with the Ampere app
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I'll check it later cause it already fully charged, Hey does QC 3.0 charger works on MXP? I mean it can only support 2.0 from what i've read, and if it does how fast can it charge?
Edit: I got 1880 mAh maximum, which charger do you have?

Cable quality and/or lenght are probably the culprit here rather than the charger IMHO.

Plzzzz share your total charging time (0 to 100%)
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vishalrao8 said:
Plzzzz share your total charging time (0 to 100%)
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Depends on your charger and cable. Which one want you to see?

2 hours with the turbo charger when not in use simultaneously.

I want charging time while phone is switched off
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vishalrao8 said:
I want charging time while phone is switched off
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And with what type of charger? I already asked this.

strongst said:
And with what type of charger? I already asked this.
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Turbo
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Turbo charge, a little over an hour from 0 to 100
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0 to 100% Full 1hr 27mnt 13sec