I got my JJ a few days back. Now one of my friends has also got his JJ. I can see that his screen is more bright than the one on my JJ although both have been set to full brightness.
I am not saying that the screen on my JJ is bad but what bothers me as to why even this minor difference. His unit came with the English ROM and mine with the Arabic ROM but this should not make a difference. Do you think these are minor differences during manufacturing.
Differences during manufacturing. The only influence in screen intensity that I have been able to establish while reviewing the Universal is when the keyboard backlight switches on. The screen then reduces in brightness ever so slightly, as if the Universal would not be able to generate enough power at that moment.
srmz said:
Do you think these are minor differences during manufacturing.
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It may be the difference between Sony and Samsung LCDs.
@Cr2
You mean HTC is using LCD's from Sony or Samsung and it is a question of what is installed in my Universal. Am I right?
Thanks for the reply if the above is correct it will give me a great satisfaction that at least something is not wrong with my device. As I said the screen on my device is not bad only it is not as bright as my friends
Thanks
If you own any Prophet variant, please read this topic:
http://www.modaco.com/iMate-JAMin-SPV-M600-different-screens-t241036.html
and participate in this poll:
http://www.modaco.com/Prophet-screen-whatand39s-yours-like-t241120.html
In a nutshell, I have a JAMin and a SPV M600, and the screen quality is worlds apart between them...
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There does seem to be a difference. I have an M600 and brought a Jamin for someone else. Side by side the Jamin looks much brighter and whiter at the same brightness level - it really is noticable. In fact if I turned the brightness to full on my M600 it was about the same as half brightness on the Jamin.
I would be interested to see if there was any difference in battery consumption between the two devices at the same brightness level. Does the Jamin give you a brighter and whiter screen for free??
I can view the screen on my Jamin from extremely shallow angles, probably less than 15 degrees and it's still pretty clear. You can't really read small writing, but larger writing is fine. I'm very impressed with it.
Not a technical question, but I am thinking of moving from XDA IIi to Vario II (if it is ever released by t-Mob!) and am a little worried that the screen will be too small to read from comfortably.
Is anyone using their device for this and can you comment on whether you have found this an issue.
Many thanks
Of course, many people read books with TyTN. The screen's pretty good and I see no problem here. If you find the scrren a bit small for reading you can always adjust font size.
Hi,
I got a 2i and a Vario2 side by side with me right now.
Although the Vario2 has a smaller screen, its quality is better than the 2i one. (Quality in terms of viewing angle, contrast, sharpness, etc)
So I don't see a problem with reading books on the Vario2.
I'm a big ebook reader - 30 to 40 books per year. I've been using my ipaq hx4705 with 4 inch VGA screen and I'm spoiled. Since buying my TyTN I've been reading on it and it's ok, not terrific. The smallest font size is pretty fairly readable. You can use a bigger font, but you don't get much on the screen. I'll probably keep using my ipaq for serious reading and just keep filler on my tytn to read during odd downtimes.
I was gonna upgrade my Wizard to a Vario II until I saw the hatchet job that T-Mobile had done on it. Their designers really need to re-think that pink and ugly thing they do.....I so hate the look of it, I'm gonna move to Orange who have kept the HTC look and sell the device in black. Well done Orange..
K
Well....To me T-mobile version is best it's got best colour combination & it looks sexy Best hermes version
Yeh Pink....nice! ;-)
blind?
kalross said:
Yeh Pink....nice! ;-)
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color blind?? Pink....???
Its more dark red (more purple then pink!!)
yea i personally liked it too.. colour combination is the best.. too bad only available in europe area.. I'll stick to my wizard for now..
Well mine is certainly not pink! I have just moved from Orange to T-mobile for one reason and one reason only....
DECENT DATA PACKAGES!!!!!
Orange are way too expensive now. With device like Vario II, surely a decent phone/data package is key.
Better in real life
I wasn't too taken with the look of the Vario II until I actually got one in my hands. The brushed gun-metal and red is under-stated and elegant. The photos don't do this device justice. But as soon as you get one in your hands, you'll see what I mean. And it has superb build quality (treated properly i.e. not like a mobile phone flung in your pocket or bag).
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside...
Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..
So, please share your experiences!
/Ampi
Every HTC phone I have encountered is worthless in direct sunlight. The only PPC I have seen that is semi-decent is the Treo 750 and that is far from perfect.
I would live to put some window tint or mirror tint on a screen protector and see if that works better.
It's really a royal pain to use it under direct sun light - combined with the fact that the dialpad lacks both visibility and tactile...
Would help if you find a shade above you or shield the phone with your body from the sunlight...
same problem with laptops
and even old monitors using crt
But in the "pdadb.net" says: Display Type:color transflective TFT.
It means that this display should reflect sunlight, more or less, but it has to.
Or HTC tells us lie ?
The Trinity is crap in sunlight and even outside on bright overcast days.
You cant even shade it outside and have to get your self inside somewhere with low light levels.
It is very much not a summer phone, and really needs to be avoided if you spend a lot of time outside and need to use the phone
Yes, the P3600 is absolutely useless in the sunshine, I think it's the only defect of Trinity.
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.
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You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.
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Huh? I said on top that every HTC phone is worthless in sunlight, except for the 750.
ampi said:
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside...
Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..
So, please share your experiences!
/Ampi
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no chance also i use exim ultra protect useless...with should reduce the reflections.. no effect :-(
OK.
If we start talk about sunlight and displays - what is the best. I tested Asus 525 - it is like SE 750 (but not like Nokia 6233 or E61 - super) for ex. What else - E-ten ?
If someone knows - tell us please.
IMO all colour screen devices are rubbish in bright sunlight. By far the best device for bright sunshine is the old mono chrome device. Like the psion 5mx. Which is far better in bright sunshine than in low light. But it is a move backwards - one I doubt you will want to make!
i think that all you saying is true.... butttt one day i was really mad about the useless screen.. put it in the brighter level and now its ok!
Perfect and useful working solution
Gentlemen,
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!
Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50
iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:
anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch
Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.
This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:
JAM
JAMin
K-Jam
It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:
S100
S200
9100
It is also compatible with the following HTC models:
TyTN
P3300
P3600
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd
Steven2420 said:
Gentlemen,
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!
Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50
iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:
anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch
Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.
This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:
JAM
JAMin
K-Jam
It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:
S100
S200
9100
It is also compatible with the following HTC models:
TyTN
P3300
P3600
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd
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I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.
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maevro said:
I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.
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I respect your thoughts my friend. Each person sees a different benefit from different items! The important thing is....ENJOY YOUR TRINITY!!!!!
I have tried 3 different screeen protectors and they do not make any difference to daylight.
AFAIK, there is no product available which will help - the manufacturers do all they can with regards to coatings etc to aid visibility and build these onto the display.
All the screen protectors do is ...... protect the screen from scratches.
Adding any extra cover to the screen will by definition, reduce visibility and not increase it.
OLED or OPLED displays may have better characteristics for daylight, but the current display technology is the problem.
Some HP and Fujitsu-Siemens PDAs have way better screens
Hi all!
I am the happy user of a Trinity, and I subscribe to the opinion that in sunlight, the screen is bad. Actually, even at max brightness, it is almost black, unusable.
I can testify that there are better screens though: I had an HP 6340 (PDA-phone) before the Trinity, and its screen WAS transreflective. Actually, the brighter the sun was, the more readable the screen became (not under any angle, but most of the time). Now that I donated it to a colleague, when I see it sometimes, I admire its large and beautiful screen. I also played with my boss' Fujitsu-Siemens 720 (I think), and it is also very visible. By the way, the FS's screen is also VGA, looks way better. The Trinity's screen does not even compare, especially because the tapping also requires more force on the Trinity.
It is a phone, used outside, for crying out loud! Why can't they buy from the same manufacturer as HP does?
However, beside the poor screen and the peeling of the black paint, there is no better convergence device than the Trinity, in my opinion. Oh, and the RAM could be a tad more, I might add.
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time when I golf. No complaints here. I mapped VJLumosIII it to a button to switch to max brightness instantly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279365&highlight=vjlumosiii