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SD/MMC/SDIO Cards & PC Connectivity

Hi there.
Can someone tell me what cards the XDA2 can and cannot support (and also where is a good cheap place to get them in the UK)?
Also, transferring music to the XDA over ActiveSync is a real pain. If I get an adapter for my PC, are the file formats compatible?
Thanks!

I Bought a SanDisk 512MB Ultra II Secure Digital Card plus shipping and VAT for GBP115.04 from mymemory.co.uk
This was about the best price I could find for this item as well as a site which would ship it to an address different to my billing address.
As far as compatability goes you'll have to do a search or wait for one of the gurus to respond.
Kind regards
Alan

Inegrating WiFi SDIO card inside Magician?

Did anyone experiment with integrating a wi-fi SDIO card INSIDE the Magician? I am curious to know if there is enough space inside the case to solder in the internals of the Sandisk WiFi card.
Would also be interesting to know if it is possible to integrate the Sandisk 256 meg wifi card but leave out the Mem and wire it back to the SDIO pins so that the card slot could still be used to plug in a 1g-2g card and still enjoy built-in wifi...
Thought I ask it here, perhaps someone heard something. In case I put a bug in anyone's ear, a reminder that experimenting with something like this will void the warranty... so at your own risk But if you decided to do it, let me know

I think that's impossible because there is almost no space inside the magician. Moreover, such modification will mostly disable the fuction of the SDIO slot when you enable the sdio wifi card, I blieve it is pointless to do so.
Why don't buy a blue angel or wait for the next generation of magician if you really need wifi but do not want to use an external wifi sd card.

Sorry for jumping in here . ..
Is the Magican Qtek s100 support the 256mb WiFi SD card.. ?
Sandisk says NO on my question to thre support .
Here is the answer below..
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Got this on my question from Sandisk about the s100 / wifi 256mb SD..
SanDisk Response: (12/20/2004 11:04)
Dear Joachim
Unfortunately, due to lack of Custom Bus Driver on your device (MOST HTC DEVICES), the unit will not support this card. We hope that your device manufacturer will soon come up with a fix on this issue.
We appologize for any inconviniences this may have caused you. We recommend that you use the SD WIFI CARD with no memory instead.
Kind Regards,
Sudhi K.
SanDisk Technical Support.
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Your Response: (12/21/2004 12:43)
Hi again .. Plz look at this URL: http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4630 Its a AU PocketPC forum. There is a guy that says it works. Are you completly sure that the WiFi 256mb one dont work in this new Qtek s100 / iMate Jam ?? Regards Joachim
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SanDisk Response: (12/21/2004 12:43)
Apparently this user has been able to get it to work. Our position is the same. The unit is not supported.
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Plz.. say they have it wrong .. or have they even tested..??
Carlis

Sandisk says NO
And I say YES (I'm posting with it just right now !!!!!)
It work great (WifiFofum found 20 wifi access point near my home , and +/- 80 access point on the road to my office )
Buy it, you won't regret !!!

Anything I need to do when I install it.. ?
Or just use the latest drivers from Sandisk ??
U can access the 256 mb onboard the WiFi card without any problem?
I feel the Qtek S100 realy need the extra mem on a SD card ..
Was soo sad when they told me it will not work...
Ur answer maked the day
Regards Joachim

I got no problems to access the memories

TNX Marcus..
Looks like I just have to buy me a "nonworking" Sandisk 256mb SD
I suppose if I send in photos of it in my qtek .. sandisk still says it isnt working ..
Regards.. Carlis

Bad Luck Carlis

please, do you use sandisk or socket drivers with your sandisk card ?
thank's

I use the driver provided with the card (sandisk)
But I will try the socket (i heard that they work better)

MDA Vario /Qtek 9100 and 4GB?

Anybody know if This PDA can support 4GB miniSD?
Thanks.

The Wizard is miniSD compatible. miniSD is derived of the SD specification that support up to 2GB memory cards. 4GB cards are SDHC compatible derived of the SDHC specification. For this reason 4GB memory cards are not compatible with the wizard neither with TyTN. I don't know any 4GB miniSD card from any fame manufacturer.
More information on this link from SanDisk:
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

Thanks maca2406.
But, did you try?
Anybody try it and don't work?
Thanks

ive got a 4gb sd card working with mine..i got it as a present so im not sure where it's from since it hasnt got a name on it..but it does work..

Hello EgemenBor,
Not 4GB SD but 4GB miniSD card on a MDA Vario (or Wizard, Qtek 9100, Imate K-Jam), right?
Thanks

Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).

From that SanDisk article:
2. Look for SDHC logo on card and packaging itself
a. GB SD cards without SDHC logo are non-compliant with the SDA 2.00
specification.
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Notice, they say "non-compliant" and NOT "non-existent." They are obviously cow-towing to device manufacturers here, plus expecting us to foot the bill!
The problems I've heard of with these cards are:
1.) They don't last as long. (Neither did 3.5" Low-Density Floppy Disks when formatted as High-Density, but I've still got a few originals hanging around that work....) It would be great to know what proccess they were using to create these drives as opposed to the 2GB ones....
2.) The card may need to be repartitioned into 2-2GB drives. (See this thread)
please remember that just because it doesn't meet the new standard, doesn't mean it doesn't work with the older standard-devices
I, for one, am grateful there are vendors serving this sub-market, even though the major players are moving on!

Thanks Blazoner.
Anybody have a miniSD 4GB card on a Wizard, that works well?
Thanks

maca2406 said:
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
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I have 2 mobymemory cards 2gb and 1 gb both work v well - if mobymemory say this 4gb card will work i trust them - i will most likely get one!
I have said all along that i think a 4gb mini-sd card will work in the wizard as a 4gb sd card works in a prophet and they really have v similar roms. 4gb even works in a magician and that has an even older rom.

I base myself on what SanDisk says in this link in red:
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8040)-T-Mobile-MDA_Vario.aspx
T-Mobile MDA Vario
(Mobile Phones)
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
Please check with your device manufacturer for details.
Also, SanDisk doesn't manufacture 4GB minisd cards. I have learned to pay attention to what SanDisk says
It would be necessary to check if to use more than 2gb works ok with the Wizard with this 4gb minisd card. Unfortunately I am in America and I don't have access to mobymemory devices.

maca2406 said:
I base myself on what SanDisk says in this link in red:
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8040)-T-Mobile-MDA_Vario.aspx
T-Mobile MDA Vario
(Mobile Phones)
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
Please check with your device manufacturer for details.
Also, SanDisk doesn't manufacture 4GB minisd cards. I have learned to pay attention to what SanDisk says
It would be necessary to check if to use more than 2gb works ok with the Wizard with this 4gb minisd card. Unfortunately I am in America and I don't have access to mobymemory devices.
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I will let you know if it works when i get one

maca2406 said:
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
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They claim it will work:
Mobile Compatibility List: New!QTEK 9100
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Anyone any experience with these cards?

I just buy one miniSD 4GB from Transcend (55€!)... I will check and post...

turns out I have the 4gb memory card from mobymemory...last couple of days its been giving me a lot of hassle..asking me to format it which I did twice and now its stopped working the phone just does red the card...I've emailed mobymemory 5 minutes ago lets see what they reply with..anybody else have the problem of the phone not 'seeing' the memory card?

EgemenBor said:
turns out I have the 4gb memory card from mobymemory...last couple of days its been giving me a lot of hassle..asking me to format it which I did twice and now its stopped working the phone just does red the card...I've emailed mobymemory 5 minutes ago lets see what they reply with..anybody else have the problem of the phone not 'seeing' the memory card?
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How long did it work ok? try formatting it on the device using sktools or storage tools

Take a look at this thread. It describes this problem and it's solutions in detail. Just read miniSD instead of SD.
Remember, it can still be compatible with the current standard, even if it doesn't comply with the new standard.
If all Fords are cars, does that mean all cars are Fords?
If all miniHDSC cards are 4GB or larger, does that mean all 4GB or larger memory cards are miniHDSC cards?
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Hi,
I receive my new miniSD 4GB card... but my Wizard don't recognize it!
Is a new SDHC and even my laptop with a pcmcia reader card (old) don't recognize too! But I think card is OK because with my Sanyo Xacti C6 work well!
What can I do? Can I make 2x 2GB partitions FAT 16... maybe Wizard work?
Thanks

well my phone isn't reading the memory card and when I try to access it via a card reader on my pc nothing happens...just gets stuck..could it be that the card is dead?
I've had the problem for the past week or so...the card in general was really slow I.e. uplaoding files and accessing the card on my pc would take a while..

I try format miniSDHC 4GB card with 2 partitions 2GB FAT16 but Wizard don't recognize it! Even my old pcmcia card reader can't "see" it! At laptop only work with a card reader that works with SDHC!
Any Help?
Thanks

By this experience, I think Wizard can't read any miniSDHC card unless HTC make a firmware update (will do sometime?) to support this new standard SDHC!
Anybody have better good news?
But, I can't understand why Qtek 9000 and S200 can read SD 4GB, like some persons report it!!!
Thanks

Support for mini SDHC

Does anyone know whether or not an 02 XDA Atom Exec will work with a 4gb mini SD (either from Sandisk or Transcend)? Would a firmware update solve the problem>? If not what options do i have
thks

i also have the same question.

I have the same question. I contacted O2 about the mini SDHC issue, but they are very vague with their answer (below - dated 16th July 2007)
"Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
With reference to the query that you have made, the Xda Atom has been tested with memory cards with a capacity of 2GB. By using a memory card with a higher capacity such as what you have mentioned, 4GB, may possibly cause some software conflict.Thus it may compromise the functioning of your device.
We hope this information is useful. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com"
If anyone is using a miniSDHC card on the atom, i will be glad to know which one. Also, is there any upgrade of software / firmware than can make this possible...

I have a miniSDHC card, Trascend brand. Won't read at all on the Atom. So don't get your hopes up. <_<

Try this drivers from HTC ATHENA for SDHC support on Atom.
Note, that it was not fully tested...
http://www.uploading.com/files/8D8Y1LXX/Athena_sdhc.rar.html

not SDHC but 4 gb works with atom
hi there,
I have an atom and it works with a 4 gb Topram minisd just fine, it's not no SDHC, and not sure if this answers your question. you can get this for like 40 bucks on e**y.

slamming_sammy1...
that's good news - incidentally, i went for the 2 gb card before i read your post. well, i'll have to upgrade sometime, i guess.

Ant-125 said:
Try this drivers from HTC ATHENA for SDHC support on Atom.
Note, that it was not fully tested...
http://www.uploading.com/files/8D8Y1LXX/Athena_sdhc.rar.html
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Tested & Worked on Atom Life WM6 Pro...
Thx bro...
Martin Yo

working miniSDHC Apacer 4GB class 2 wizard 9100 G3 WM2006 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1963379&postcount=2

Actually the Atom Life's WM6 ROM had enable the support for SDHC. 8G MiniSD works well.

Thats right WM6 supports miniSDHC
splua333 said:
Actually the Atom Life's WM6 ROM had enable the support for SDHC. 8G MiniSD works well.
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I bought O2 Atom Life just a week before. The same day I bought I did logged in to get WM6 upgrade and within 3 hours of purchase my device was on WM6.
When I downloaded the ROM after Registering and entering my IMEI the download page came and there was clearly mentioned that after WM^ upgrade the device will be able to use miniSDHC card but the capacity was not mentioned. BUT IT IS QUIET CLEARLY CONFIRMED THAT WM6 CAN READ miniSDHC CARD WHICH CAN BE ANYTHING ABOVE 2GB.
But its true that the device may start to slowdown, as well as the count of stored files increases to huge number. This is not tested by me but when I used 2gb card on MotoMing with more than 1000 files, the device started slowing down, though it was linux based. And we all know how windows behaves

???
I'm still confused Does atom support 4 GB mini shhc?

legalmantra said:
I'm still confused Does atom support 4 GB mini shhc?
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Yes! just install the sdhc patch and it'll work!

Which patch?
I need too this patch..
Device Atom life
Regards

I am unable to download Athena_sdhc.rar anyone can re-upload on rapidshare please

I guess if it works for Atom, it also works for HP rw 6828 (with "helloWorld" WM6.1 Rom fro this forum)
Do you know if it works with a micro SD 8GB or higher with a mini SD adapter ?
Some people report that 8GB works.
I use a 2GB from "integral" without problem.
I tried with a 4GB micro SD Kingston with mini-SD adapter, and it seemed to work.
Any slowdown when a lot of files are on the SD card ?
Did someone tried this link

I purchased an second hand Atom Life with WM6.0 but it would not read a SDHC 4GB card until the attacehd program was installed. But i soon found that the standard ROM sucks and then loaded a WM6.1 from Medkid and it works like a dream!!....that is everything good and SDHC support for my 4GB card is built in. Otherwise here is the SDHC driver for WM.

SDHC Cards? Still none the wiser?

I have searched on here and read the various threads on SDHC cards and I am still none the wiser
In the Wizard Accessories forum there is a 5-page thread about users experiences with what does and doesn't work - the problem is there is contradicting information. I thought I was getting somewhere with later units supporting SDHC and earlier ones not (serial numbers), however half way through the thread someone with an older Wizard says they have it working.....
Are there any difinitive answers to whether 4GB SDHC cards work in the Wizard, and if so does it need to be a G4, does it need to be manufactured after a certain date etc?
I have two Wizards (s/n: SZ602EE0xxxx and HT544EExxxx), both currently with 1GB SD cards (Danelec I think?). I am reluctant to buy any 4GB cards unless I know they are going to work.
Thanks
Andy

AFAIK some WM6 ROM with build .1921 includes drivers that should support SDHC cards but since I don't have a SDHC card on hand cannot test ...
or have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320159

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nothin said:
http://www.mm.pl/~xoen/sdhc.rar
driver, that enabled sdhc for some devices(it wasn't obvious that it will work - but it works.), cannot test it with wiz , though.
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I have already downloaded this but don't have a SDHC card to test it, and as I said I am reluctant to buy one if it won't work.......
Andy

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ok to clarify this, (im going to get flame at least once for this) SDHC cards will only work with devices that have the drivers for SDHC cards. This does not have to do with the hardware but if we cant get the drivers to talk to the hardware there is no support. we have the right hardware but no drivers and if it was a hardware problem then SDHC cards would not be the same as a SD card.
And can someone test that rom (not hopping it works but it might)

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I've got a 4gb SDHC card sitting here, and the latest TNT release (1921 base). Obviously, it does not currently work. Let me know what I need to do to try!

imthewa1rus said:
I've got a 4gb SDHC card sitting here, and the latest TNT release (1921 base). Obviously, it does not currently work. Let me know what I need to do to try!
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The first page of theloon 7.2 ROM kitchen shows it working. I run this ROM, but I dont have a SDHC yet. I'll post there to see if anyone has had success.

Resurect this thread....
I am desperately running out of SD card space and would like to now 'upgrade' to a 4GB (or bigger?) SDHC card. I would like some testemonials of users who have had sucess with SDHC cards and what Wizard version and ROM you are running.
As I said I am reluctant to just buy a SDHC card and see if it works as it will be a waste of money if it doesn't.
Andy

count me in
just bought a 2gb sd card for 25€ over here but i need more space ^^
transcend sells the fastest sd mini cards as far as i tested them..
from hardware point of view the wizard device can handle this SDHC cards
as they use the same slot and hardware a usb cardreader has..
its just a matter of drivers or maybe just a registrysetting..
my guess its a combination of a new driver with enhancements for SDHC
and some registrysettings...
knowing windows they probably allready implented it in OS at least in WM6
and it be just a question of finding the right driver with the right settings..

my 4gig sdhc is coming in early next week, then I can test..

keep us informed on how it works please .. if it works that is ^^

Read this! It is only a matter of drivers and reg settings. Someone has created a cab with appropriate drivers and reg entries for testing somewhere on the xda forum.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c1-f0f4-4fd6-9366-b61e0ab59565&DisplayLang=en

theloon said:
Read this! It is only a matter of drivers and reg settings. Someone has created a cab with appropriate drivers and reg entries for testing somewhere on the xda forum.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c1-f0f4-4fd6-9366-b61e0ab59565&DisplayLang=en
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So you can confirm this works? That's all I want. There are LOTS of varying reports on SDHC cards working & not working. I don't want to buy one and then realise it doesn't work. It's all right posting drivers and links to MS updates but that doesn't confirm anything. I want hard evidence.....
Andy

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I tried it and it doesn't work.

• Support for Video over IP telephony calls
• Support for the Pocket Outlook Object Model (POOM) and ActiveSync in the VoIP Home Screen and VoIP Contacts applications
• Secure Digital (SD) bus driver that supports SDHC specification 2.00 functionality, such as Secure Digital High-Capacity (SDHC) cards
Support for Extended File Allocation Table (ExFAT) and FAT32 on the x86 BIOS Loader, which provides access beyond 2 gigabytes (GB) of hard disk space.
this is probably the issue with ur 4gb card..
the bios of the wizard wont be able to acces beyond 2gb
but...
now that you have this 4gb card can you do us all a favor ?
here is the thing:
if u have a cardreader that reads the card on the pc just put it in the pc
otherwise put it in the wizard and start wm5torage and connect it as a
non-removable class and write enabled and start the thing and connect it to pc..
when connected goto computer and right click My Computer and choose manage.. in that window goto Disk Managment ..
in there you see this drive which is on the sd card, its shown as a drive
rightclick on the part next to it where it shows the volume on the drive
(it says Healty when correct and the driveletter it got assigned)
choose delete partition
now u have a empty flashdisk
format it in fat16 but.. :-> dont give it a name and set it to 2gb and do not assign a driveletter
now there is a space left of <1gb
format this too fat16 no name, no drive letter, no other stuff but plain format
now if all is correct and these two drives are there you can disconnect it.
unplug the cardreader (with the remove hardwarebutton in systray)
or if u got it in your wizard , shut down pc and take wizard out after it shut down
then release the wm5torage driver and close it and remove card and insert it
back again..
u can check for errors with pocket mechanic professional..
little warning though : do not do this with non branded fake 4gb cards as it
renders it useless probably..( these cards that are 2gb and reformated to hold 4gb)

KhMeRA said:
I tried it and it doesn't work.
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Thanks for highlighting my point - some Wizard owners say they work, others say they don't. Even though it's only about UK £20, it's still wasted money if it doesn't work.....
Andy

ADB100 said:
Thanks for highlighting my point - some Wizard owners say they work, others say they don't. Even though it's only about UK £20, it's still wasted money if it doesn't work.....
Andy
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it will work if someone can port wm6 r2 to the wizard
and i had it work with a 4gb sd mini card which wasnt SDHC
the site i bought it doesnt have them anymore ..
it seems it is an "out of specs" sd card hence there not sold here,
but maybe we can find a store that has these cards..
one more thought is that it maybe read the SDHC card as well if we
keep its volume space to a max of 2gb..
multiple volumes on a storage card works fine on a t-mobile stock rom
not tried it on others..
nevertheless ur right about the part that no-one is willing to buy something that doesnt work hence we need to test and try...
or as i would say :
Plug 'n Pray ©

guys, just wait until Monday or Tuesday, you will get a full report
let's start a poll, which ROM should be used for testing