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Voice recognition with Qtek 2020: possible or not ???

Can anyone tell me the truth ??? Is it possible or not ?
My previous GSM was a Motorola Timeport. When I had to telephone someone, I just spoke the name of that person, and my Motorola dialled the correct number.
For example I said "Parents", and the phone number of my parents was automatically dialled.
Can I do such thing with my BT headset Sony/ericsson HBH-35 and my Qtek 2020 ???
Some people say it is totaly impossibble ???

I cann´t tell you, if that would work, but i know, that you can use voice dial via some extra software. It works well.
What i don´t know, if you can use your BT for Voice recognition....
Stefan

Aha, thanks Stefan. ( we have almost the same flag - lol ! )
So voice-recognition would work, but only with the microphone of the Qtek itself, pobably not with bluetooth....
So I guess I have to use speed dial in the car...

yes, it´s possible with microsoft voice comand, try it¡¡ it´s very easy to install and very funny.

srlobo said:
yes, it´s possible with microsoft voice comand
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I assume you mean that voice-dialing is possible, NOT voice-dialing through a BT headset. Right?
From all of the information I have gathered, voice-dialing through a BT headset is just not possible at this time. If you have gotten it to work, I'll bet there are thousands who would like to know how you did it! :wink:

yeah i believe that there is some bluetooth profile required
there are some threads about it somewhere in hacking it forum

Rudegar wrote:
yeah i believe that there is some bluetooth profile required
there are some threads about it somewhere in hacking it forum
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I have searched and can find nothing that indicates that voice-dialing through BT works yet. There is a great deal of discussion, but no solution (that I can find). I believe that a BT HandsFree profile is required, but not included with the Himalaya BT implementation.
We can certainly hope that one is included in WM2003 SE, should that actually make it to this platform.

some people were talking about if it was possible to use the ipaq bluetooth stack on a xda2 if that works

I'm using Voice Dial sinse 3 month and it works grate. Even in the car I can ask any contact of my data base ( +/-1000) name of contact + mobile or at home etc... The program ask you for confirmation by reading once more the contact name and asks if this is correct.
If you say "yes" it compose the request phone number.
I'm using HBH 65 BT headset for phone and the intergreted micro from Qtek for voice recognition.
Try it for free at : http://www.fonix.com/page.cfm?name=product_fonix_voicedial&ID=14
I have the french version

So Kiyeko -
Are you saying that you can press the button on your BT headset, say a name from your contacts list into the microphone on the headset and the i-mate/XDA II/MDA II/QTEK 2020 will dial the number? If so, I would be interested to know what software recognizes the headset button-press as the initiator of the voice-dialing software.
I have tried Pocket BT Tools with Fonix Voice Dial and was never able to get it to recognize the headset button press as the initiator of the program. Oh, by the way - I tried it with the MS program as well.

Returning to the initial question posted by mvb95.
Yes, with your hardware (Qtek 2020 and HBH35) is possible to use voice recognition to put the calls.
You must install Vito Voice Dialer PE v3.0. Eventually assign a hardware button to the voice dialer. Record all the tag voices you want.
With both devices paired and turned on (HBH35 blinking green), press the hardware button assigned to Vito and say the tag (e.g.: “John”) to the headset. You don’t need to use the Qtek speaker, don’t need to press the HBH35 button, nor confirm the recognition with “yes”, like in the Fonix.
Is simple and ease.

vmgps wrote:
say the tag (e.g.: “John”) to the headset.
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Are you SURE it is using the headset microphone to input the name? I have downloaded and installed the program, then set a hardware button and recorded some voice tags.
When I press the hardware button, it does not activate my HBH-30 to input the tag, it records it with the device's microphone.
Are you using Pocket BlueTooth tools?

Hi Brian:
I use it always in my car.
My hardware: Qtek 2020 (Rom: 1.72.00WWE, Radio version: 1.14.00) and headset SE HBH-35.
I have tried several times covering the microphone hole with my finger and, by other side, speak to the headset 2 or 3 meters away from the Qtek.
With Vito you don’t need to say “Call John” but only “John”.
I don’t use the Pocket Bluetooth Tools because the latest Rom has the Bluetooth headset profile improved and this software doesn’t work with my car kit handsfree Nokia.
I can’t put my hands on fire, but the only thing I’m sure is that I can talk normally with the Vito Voice Dialer and the headset in my car.

Emulate HeadSet?

Dear All,
I have been for the past 3 weeks trying to know if it's possible to write an
application that would send/receive the phone audio conversation to a pc if
the device is places on the cradel?
What i want to do is to use my pc's mic and speaker as a headset. I was
thinking that this can be done, since a friend of mine has bluetooth on his
laptop, i paired my phone with his laptop via bluetooth, and one of the
services provided was Audio Gateway, and used his laptop's mic and speakers
as a bluetooth headset.
I wonder how this is implemented since i want to do something like that over
the Cradel connection. or any other media as a matter of fact
Your help is really appreciated
Mustafa Rabie

You've got the answer in your post. Simply get a bluetooth adapter that preferably has widcomm drivers (I know they work like this). Set it up as an audio gateway and pair with it, hopefully you should now be able to use it as a headset.

Is there any pc program to emulate the functions of a bluetooth headset like answer the call or reject it, display the caller number?

hi all thanks for your replies:
fruitloaf - i think u didnt get my question. I want to emulate that, i want to write an application on the PPC Phone that when i answer i can capture the audio convo (mic/speaker) and transfere it to the PC maybe via the pass through when the device is on the cradel.
jacusi1980 - i will write an application on the PC that will handel the answering, dialing, rejecting etc. Which also i would like to know how can i control the answering rejecting etc remotely.
Thanks

MS Voice Command & BT Parrott CK3000

Hi Guys,
Got a question. I am thinking of investing in a copy of MS Voice Command so that i don't have to setup voice tags for a lot of my contacts. At the moment when i press the green dial button on my CK3000 i have to say one of the voice tags. From what i have read on here it looks like it is possible to get Voice Command to start instead of the internal voice tag system. Is that correct?
If this is right, then it looks like a worthwhile bit of software for my MDA Vario.
Thanks

Yes you can change it with a registry edit.
I thouight the Parrot used it's own in built voice recognition with the conatcts downloaded into it. Am I wrong as that is what put me off buying one so far.

Depends how you use it. You can do that if you want, but the way i use it is just as a BT headset. I do not send any info onto the kit. The only thing i do is pair with it.
So whats the reg hack then?

leaskovski said:
Depends how you use it. You can do that if you want, but the way i use it is just as a BT headset. I do not send any info onto the kit. The only thing i do is pair with it.
So whats the reg hack then?
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O.k. I will give you the hack and better yet, some utility links for hundreds of hacks for your device, including two Freebies for MSVC that you may need. But first u should know.... MSVC works great on any WM2003 like my iPaq 6315. But for the life of me MSVC does not support WM5 BT. I said BT, not device. MSVC works great on any device with BT, but it does not support communication via BT. If you make a call using MSVC from device, the call will come over your BT, but that is supported by the BT smartphone/ppc with or without MSVC.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/02/03/524289.aspx
I also don't like voicetags. You can't, for example, enable voicedial and command it to dial a number u wrote on a napkin while driving, or a number on a spreadsheet, unles you have added them to contacts and assigned voice tags. Besides voicetags take up ROM space. MSVC is an excellent application with 5 star reviews. Sometimes it's a little frustrating, cause nothing is a perfect science, yet, but for the most part MSVC is incredibly usefull
The hack offers a solution, but not for everyone, like me with a Motorala H700 BT headset. Let me explain, but here is the hack....
You must have Microsoft Voice Command installed to use this hack. Open up a registry entry program such as Resco Registry that comes with Resco Explorer 2005. Then goto "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand\Path". Change the default value from "\Windows\SDDialer.exe" to "\Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe". Now you should be able to activate Micrsoft Voice Command by pressing the connect button on your bluetooth headset. You must download a regedit app during trial and do this. i would buy one, cause you never know when u need one. The PPC is not like a table top pc, you can't just go to a run command and type regedit. On PPC u need a decent regedit application anyway. Especially if you hang around these forums.
As a matter of fact I talk a lot about this in HOFO, http://www.howardforums.com and if u go there, see MDA hacks 5 start forum.
The hack changes the registry to point to Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe instead of voicespeed. Now that does not guarantee that MSVC will clearly communicate with you BT headset consistently, cause some have had great success using their BT headsets, while others, unfortunately me, have not with the Motorola h700. So reserach the link on the blog I gave u for MS, cause some others talk about what models this does work, could save someone time before they buy a BT headset or car kit.
That is where BT SoundON comes in to play. http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1 A great utility, must HAVE! Cause you can use for any sound from WM5 on BT, like games, when in private office, etc. The problem with MSVC and some BT headsets or car kits, is that after the hack, and soft reset MSVC and BT work nicely, but after the first call, MSVC stops on ur BT.
Also see Tweak2k2 has hack cheap utility worth owning. http://www.tweaks2k2.com/ and if u want a Freebie just for the MSVC hack, this one works nice and does not require soft reset.... http://www.burling.co.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=105&def=ErrorMessage
Good luck

Great post!
Everything i need to know about what i am gonna try and do!
Thank you ever so much!!!!!!!

leaskovski said:
Depends how you use it. You can do that if you want, but the way i use it is just as a BT headset. I do not send any info onto the kit. The only thing i do is pair with it.
So whats the reg hack then?
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Click to collapse
O.k. I will give you the hack and better yet, some utility links for hundreds of hacks for your device, including two Freebies for MSVC that you may need. But first u should know.... MSVC works great on any WM2003 like my iPaq 6315. But for the life of me MSVC does not support WM5 BT. I said BT, not device. MSVC works great on any device with BT, but it does not support communication via BT. If you make a call using MSVC from device, the call will come over your BT, but that is supported by the BT smartphone/ppc with or without MSVC.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/02/03/524289.aspx
I also don't like voicetags. You can't, for example, enable voicedial and command it to dial a number u wrote on a napkin while driving, or a number on a spreadsheet, unles you have added them to contacts and assigned voice tags. Besides voicetags take up ROM space. MSVC is an excellent application with 5 star reviews. Sometimes it's a little frustrating, cause nothing is a perfect science, yet, but for the most part MSVC is incredibly usefull
The hack offers a solution, but not for everyone, like me with a Motorala H700 BT headset. Let me explain, but here is the hack....
You must have Microsoft Voice Command installed to use this hack. Open up a registry entry program such as Resco Registry that comes with Resco Explorer 2005. Then goto "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand\Path". Change the default value from "\Windows\SDDialer.exe" to "\Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe". Now you should be able to activate Micrsoft Voice Command by pressing the connect button on your bluetooth headset. You must download a regedit app during trial and do this. i would buy one, cause you never know when u need one. The PPC is not like a table top pc, you can't just go to a run command and type regedit. On PPC u need a decent regedit application anyway. Especially if you hang around these forums.
As a matter of fact I talk a lot about this in HOFO, http://www.howardforums.com and if u go there, see MDA hacks 5 start forum.
The hack changes the registry to point to Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe instead of voicespeed. Now that does not guarantee that MSVC will clearly communicate with you BT headset consistently, cause some have had great success using their BT headsets, while others, unfortunately me, have not with the Motorola h700. So reserach the link on the blog I gave u for MS, cause some others talk about what models this does work, could save someone time before they buy a BT headset or car kit.
That is where BT SoundON comes in to play. http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1 A great utility, must HAVE! Cause you can use for any sound from WM5 on BT, like games, when in private office, etc. The problem with MSVC and some BT headsets or car kits, is that after the hack, and soft reset MSVC and BT work nicely, but after the first call, MSVC stops on ur BT.
Also see Tweak2k2 has hack cheap utility worth owning. http://www.tweaks2k2.com/ and if u want a Freebie just for the MSVC hack, this one works nice and does not require soft reset.... http://www.burling.co.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=105&def=ErrorMessage
Good luck

Okay, i have played with this now, and remarkably it all works exactly how i expected it to. I did the reg hack and now MS Voice command starts and waits for my prompt, then confirms and dials. I have the conversation and then press the red button on the car kit and it hangs up. I just need to turn the volumn up a bit because when i was doing 70 i couldn't hear which contact it selected. It got it wrong and phoned a mate. At low speed it worked a beut!

Sorry should have given you the reg edit.
Try this one for your volume problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41273&highlight=voice+command+vol+volume

Great Hack; however....
GReat Hack. It works beautifully on my MDA. I use a parrot CK kit modified to interface with the BMW bus. Here is what I can do now:
1/ When pressing the phone button I can dial using voice commands throught the BT!!!! commands are captured through the bt command and audio is played through my car speakers!
2/ I can start an application by pressing the same button (still throught BT)
3/ the tomtom navigator 5 prompts are played throught the car speakers!
Only glitch: After the voice prompt such as: "turn right" has played my car stereo does not automatically return to the audio program I was playing (radio, cd....)
Does this have to do with the value not set for "default" ?
Any suggestion on how to fix this glitch?
Thanks!

:shock:
Eh? Did i missing something as my kit doesn't play the TomTom speech back though the speakers. Are you using the BTAudio program?

Skype and Bluetooth headsets

I have a Vario II with Skype installed.
I realise that Skype recommends that you use the supplied headset when using the product for calling (rather than the speakerphone) but I was wondering if I can use my Bluetooth headset instead of the wired headset?
Bluetooth works fine with ordinary phone calls so I sort of expected it to work with Skype (doesn't the phone just see a Bluetooth headset as a standard headset once a partnership has been established?) - but it doesn't appear to work.
Am I missing something or does Skype for Pocket PC not support Bluetooth? And, if not, why not?

Skype probably doesn't use BT Headset profile. They probably should. But look at how long it took MS to make Voice Command work with BT and on our phones it didn't even work. I bet A2DP stereo headsets would work since it is an audio sending profile and not related to calls but you wouldn't be able to use the MIC except for the one on the phone. This might be enough functionality someone could try if they haven't already. However, there is the utility that someone wrote for the Samsung SCH-i730 that redirect all audio to the BT headset. There is no reason it shouldn't work on any PPC that uses the Microsoft BT stack. So try it out and see if it works.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/391448-post1.html
You need to create shortcuts to the toggle executable to make it easy to use.

There is a reg entry that will allow you to patch all sound to a BT headset.
HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand
LaunchAPEnable should be 0 instead of 1. Once done the headset hardware button will be remapped to connect to the device instead of launching voice command.
You will still be able to press the button to answer calls, it just won't initiate voice dial for new calls.
I would suggest one of those small freeware that allow to remap the hardware button (my button right softw key's been remapped to display a full program menu, that includes the voice command). I'm using a program called New Menu for Windows Mobile 5.
Hope this will help,
Sam

Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?

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Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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sorry for the bump... but if this can somehow work it would be a godsend... any ideas oh wise ones?

read my previous post.

To toggle Audio to A2DP you might want to see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1485391#post1485391
It's an easy way of switching audio to the headset and back to the device. This is for A2DP only.

hey guys,i was hoping for a different thing..is it possible to change the sound from the loudspeaker to the small speaker?? like using a real phone instead of using earphones..i dont have any earphones or bt headsets for the moment so i was hoping that someone can help me out here..its annoying if ur using skype while other people can hear the person you are talking to..
p/s:i've search everywhere including this forum,but still no solution..

No. Apparently it's a flaw in WM: it doesn't give apps access to the phone speaker.

that's a shame..hope microsoft will consider this for their future product

Bluetooth does work with Skype
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Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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Try www.Fring.com it has the Skype, MSN, ICQ in there they're all work with the bluetooth. (check the setting after the installation to allow bluetooth headset)

Anybody got MS VoiceCommand / BlueAudio to work?

I used to have VoiceCommand and BlueAudio perfectly working on my X1. Now this crappy X2 that messes up so much, canNOT run any Audio to the Bluetooth Headset.
It should have the MS Bluetooth Stack so these programs should work. Perhaps it is some registry change that makes them work?
Anybody got them to work and know how to? Thanks!
It seems that the Bluetooth AudioGateway dll files is not working properly. Tried different dll's from different versions but still did not find the "correct" working one. Anybody???

Couldn't get MS Voice Command working.
Vito Voice Dialer works great though.
Haven't managed to make my X2 work with my existing bluetooth headset.
X2 says it's paierd with the device, but then you can't answer calls or anything else.
If it wasn't for the $$$ I spent to buy this piece of crap, I'd have a new phone already!

Okay, is this vito voice dialer dialing VIA bluetooth or not? And HOW do you press a key on the phone to activate it? What key? And just read their manual, they don't even mention any bluetooth capability there. Can you use bluetooth and how?
Because voice command works (more or less) HOWEVER NOT via bluetooth and since there is NO hard/software button to assign to it, it cannot be activated via the phone either!
I have to press the bluetooth button and then the sound (mic and voice) come out of the phone speaker.
I strongly think this has to do with the bluetooth gateway SE is using with the X2. But I was hoping somebody technical could have found a solution by now. For me voice dialing is essential and my X1 was perfect.
With blue audio I could listen to musik on a mono bluetooth!
Just to mention it, I use SE hbh-PV740 and it always works if making 'regular' calls via the phone over bluetooth. But I cannot initiate it nor voice dial.

I can't get my X2 to do anything with my bluetooth kit, so all your questions re: bluetooth I can't answer.
I start vito from a button on the screen and it works.
For me and my phone, the vito product is much more accurate and reliable than voice command.