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Tom Tom 6 and Artemis. Initial Impressions.

Tom Tom 6 and Artemis. Hoping my Initial Impressions may help someone.
Hi,
I'm a newbie... not up to the high standards of others here. But I thought it might be useful to give a newbies initial impressions on running TomTom 6 (application+DVD) on an Artemis.
I ordered TomTom from TomTom online. They quoted up to 5 weeks, but it took 5 days to get the DVD which contains application and Europe map and I received my TomTom 6 this afternoon and loaded it on my XDA Orbit with no real problems. (See below)
This goes against the advice of TomTom who say that it is not supported yet.
I started by resetting the XDA Orbit clean, which obliterated CoPilot.
TomTom 6 installed easily from the installation DVD.
Using the application software, I put the main program in the memory of the XDA, but put the maps and extra bits on a 2GB card. I was nervous about buying a 4gb or larger card , and so purchased a CNEX Flash format program to give me better control of what was happening on the Flash card.
The program installs on the PC first, and shows a split screen showing what's available to you on the left (e.g. DVD) and what's on your Artemis on the right (Memory & Flash card).
Registering was easy, but if you elect to pay for the Traffic reports etc, it's advisory to read the instructions to avoid losing out on the free month.
Finally, I downloaded John Cleese's voice at 10 Euros, since I'm a Python fan. This is nice.
Comparing it to CoPilot some issues struck me.
Good News?
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First,It seems to be working well.
To my mind the range of TomTom extras seems huge and well developed. Colours, maps, layouts, voices. Good stuff.
I don't get CoPilot starting up at every opportunity.. like incoming calls. (Yes I've disabled the button)
I'll add to this thread anything I discover.
Problems?
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First, TomTom does not have an 'Exit' in the program like CoPilot. This was/is a pain.
No doubt I'll discover an answer from some helpful soul soon.
I press the red phone icon when in TomTom which brings up the XDA's menu. I can then I'm select Memory, Programs in use, and hit it over the head with a mallet.
It does raise the question what happens if someone rings me? More investigation needed.
Secondly, Tom Tom does not have a menu structure. You just touch the map which brings up options via icons. It works, but was/is not intuitive for me as CoPilot was.
I think I prefer the 2d direction maps of CoPilot to the 3D of TomTom. But it's early days.
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I have always had low Satellite reception on my XDA Orbit. Particularly in my house. CoPilot vsTomTom made no difference. In the car reception worked fine even with a heated front windscreen.
I've still got some ferreting around to do. I want to increase the warning distance from 200metres for one thing. I've also got to find out about the Traffic Alerts and how it works and can suggest rerouting etc.
All the best.

Hello!
It's obviuos you're quite new to TT, since there is an exit-button in TT, well it's somehow misplaced but it's there. When TT shows the map -> tap on the screen -> hit the next page button twice -> voila the exit button.
To edit the menu to your likings you can build your own TT menu. Onlineversion & Offlineversion. Just to make things clear the TomTom.mnu belongs in \TomTom\SdkRegistry
It does'nt make a difference if you use TT or another GPS-capable software in terms of GPS reception it depends only on the location your are roaming in (and I must say I'm more then positiv suprised with the quality of the GPS chip compared to all other devices I had before). Every software gets the same data from the Orbits inbuild GPS chip (well if you are intend to try MN6 it is likely you will experince problems with the positioning but it's cause MN6 is running slow as hell)
INFO:
There are hundreds of pois out there for TT for almost every thing, some are free and some are...well...search the internet.
...bye DonQ

DonQuichotte said:
Hello!
It's obviuos you're quite new to TT, since there is an exit-button in TT, well it's somehow misplaced but it's there. When TT shows the map -> tap on the screen -> hit the next page button twice -> voila the exit button.
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yep. Day1! Thanks Don. Missed it completely!
DonQuichotte said:
To edit the menu to your likings you can build your own TT menu. Onlineversion & Offlineversion.
Just to make things clear the TomTom.mnu belongs in \TomTom\SdkRegistry
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Thanks. The idea of being able to construct the pages in your own desired order is very appealing.
DonQuichotte said:
It does'nt make a difference if you use TT or another GPS-capable software in terms of GPS reception it depends only on the location your are roaming in (and I must say I'm more then positiv suprised with the quality of the GPS chip compared to all other devices I had before).
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That's helpful. It's my first foray into GPS stuff, and I was suprised when I lost CoPilot over the Christmas period. The o2 rep said that it was the fog, and I still am sceptical that that was the whole story.
DonQuichotte said:
Every software gets the same data from the Orbits inbuild GPS chip (well if you are intend to try MN6 it is likely you will experince problems with the positioning but it's cause MN6 is running slow as hell)
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Could you just expand a bit on this please ? Thanks.
DonQuichotte said:
INFO:
There are hundreds of pois out there for TT for almost every thing, some are free and some are...well...search the internet.
...bye DonQ
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Thanks again
Ann D

Hello,
andromeda9 said:
Could you just expand a bit on this please ? Thanks.
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What exactly do you wanna know? The GPS reception or MN6?
I've taken a look at MN6 about 2 weeks ago and it was not usable in any way. Navigating through the menu was horrible slow and from what I've heard from others it gives voice instructions way too late, just when you have passed destination/turnings. Also calculating the route is very slow.
I had the chance to test MN6 on a PNA (Transonic 6000) the other week and even on this kind of device it was not running that well but much much better than on my Artemis.
...bye DonQ

DonQuichotte said:
Hello,
What exactly do you wanna know? The GPS reception or MN6?
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I'm new to both.. but MN6 really. (I presume MN6 is TomTom6)
DonQuichotte said:
I've taken a look at MN6 about 2 weeks ago and it was not usable in any way. Navigating through the menu was horrible slow and from what I've heard from others it gives voice instructions way too late, just when you have passed destination/turnings.
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I get you. Hence my comment earlier about wanting to give myself more than 200metres warning.
So far not yet past destinations... but it's only day two.
DonQuichotte said:
Also calculating the route is very slow.
I had the chance to test MN6 on a PNA (Transonic 6000) the other week and even on this kind of device it was not running that well but much much better than on my Artemis.
...bye DonQ
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That again is very helpful Don.
QUESTION:
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Can you tell me whether the slowness etc is due to the software or is it something else?
I notice a thread about TomTom and T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 and it seems to run ok on that. Isn't the T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 roughly the same as my Orbit is is it the operator making a difference?
QUESTION:
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Any tips to watch out for about running TomTom on the Orbit?
e.g. can for example the Artemis be overclocked and resolve some of these weaknesses ? What's your opinion?
Finally, I had NOT noticed but TomTom was booting up at each soft reset. I turned it off but hadn't noticed that the GPRS was still live ... hence a bigger bill for GPRS than I was expecting.
I had a look on the sd card and found the TomTom auto Autorun file called Start.exe in the root Dir of the card. I moved it into another folder and all is ok. Most of the time now TomTom does not start up unless I invoke it.
QUESTION:
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When TomTom exits can the GPRS link be broken off automatically?.. might save me a few pennies?
Thanks

andromeda9 said:
QUESTION 1:
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Can you tell me whether the slowness etc is due to the software or is it something else?
I notice a thread about TomTom and T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 and it seems to run ok on that. Isn't the T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 roughly the same as my Orbit is is it the operator making a difference?
QUESTION 2:
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Any tips to watch out for about running TomTom on the Orbit?
e.g. can for example the Artemis be overclocked and resolve some of these weaknesses ? What's your opinion?
Finally, I had NOT noticed but TomTom was booting up at each soft reset. I turned it off but hadn't noticed that the GPRS was still live ... hence a bigger bill for GPRS than I was expecting.
I had a look on the sd card and found the TomTom auto Autorun file called Start.exe in the root Dir of the card. I moved it into another folder and all is ok. Most of the time now TomTom does not start up unless I invoke it.
QUESTION 3:
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When TomTom exits can the GPRS link be broken off automatically?.. might save me a few pennies?
Thanks
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Hi Ann,
I just got my MDAC3 as well and have just installed TT6 from a DVD. These are my thoughts to your questions above. I did a bit of web searching before I got one though, to find out that YES, the MDAC3 = O2 Orbit = Dopod P800W = HTC Artemis (with(out) various options made possible by Texas Instruments(the makers of the hardware) [MDAC3, Orbit, Dopod P800W are corporate brand names of the various carriers in their relevant countries, but are all know and referred to as ARTEMIS in the development circles.]
Answers to Q1 and Q2: -
I think the slowness may be due to a combination of several things.
a.) The type of microSD card you have in your set - when I was searching to buy one, I noticed there are 2 types : a normal one and and ultra II. The difference is the ultra II has a faster read/write speed, which is affects the general speed/performance of the TT6.
b.) AFAIK(As far as I Know) The orbit has a bit more capabilities than the MDAC3 such as WIFI. This additional function the same processor-OMAP850 has to cater for. Now, this porcessor is not necessarily the most efficient or the fastest available, so impacts performance as well.
c.) If you overclock, there will be a noticable improvement in performance, and a corresponding increase in battery consumption, but this may not translate to an improved experience with TT6, if you have it on a normal card vis ultra II.
The speed of refreshing the map overlay and playing the sound files associated I believe is the reason you hear the instructions after passing the landmarks/turnings, all of which I think is due to the card read/write spead again, plus the processor speed.
Answer to Q3
Its surprising that you mentioned GPRS - as this differs from GPS which the TomTom uses, though I was made to understand that a SatNav software may also use the GPRS (wierd - as this is VERY expensive if you dont have the unlimited package only available cheaply on T-Mobile). You may want to check the the connection settings of the TomTom, changing it to connect using the GPS on a port you set on the hardware.
Start Menu > Settings > System> GPS > Hardware (You may also set the port for TT6 to connect on the Program window.
TT6 starts the GPS receiver upon request for navigation (which I thought was intelligent - to save battery power)
Lastly,
IMOE (In my own Experience) I initially installed the TT6 software + maps from the DVD + POI overlay to the microSD ULTRA II, and noticed it froze up many times then I installed in the phone memory, removed the overlay (TT6 has a manageable one), maps still in the microSD and it stopped freezing up, plus refresh of map was every second.
Now I have overclocked with the hope of a good performance whilst multitasking, which is Ok with some combinations and not with others. Hence my conclusion as stated above. The processor really can be better, but Vs price, it will not be marketable in its class with the many ther products out there at the price it is given.
I hope I have been of some help.
Cheers
AD10

You can use a 2D map mode if you really want to, go to change preferences/ Turn off 3D display.
You can overclock the unit but I have found no valid reason to actually do this.
The GPRS charges are only applicable to the actual data transferred to/ from your device, so don't worry about it remaining connected - if there is no data traffic there will be no extra charges.
Leave the GPS applet alone (the one that exists in the settings menu) this often leads to confusion and is only really needed to be used/ set-up IF you want to run two applications at the same time (not something the Artemis excels at due to the processor power). Set to Other NMEA GPS receiver/ Baud 9600/ COM4 should be all that is required.
As for poor GPS reception, you mention the car has a heated screen, is this Athermic glass which is known to attenuate the signal or a standard wire heater element embeded in the glass (which do not affect GPS performance) - make sure the Quick GPS data is up to date, and don't drive around until the device has actually locked on to the signal - Mike

AD10 said:
Hi Ann,
I just got my MDAC3 as well and have just installed TT6 from a DVD. These are my thoughts to your questions above. I did a bit of web searching before I got one though, to find out that YES, the MDAC3 = O2 Orbit = Dopod P800W = HTC Artemis (with(out) various options made possible by Texas Instruments(the makers of the hardware) [MDAC3, Orbit, Dopod P800W are corporate brand names of the various carriers in their relevant countries, but are all know and referred to as ARTEMIS in the development circles.]
Answers to Q1 and Q2: -
I think the slowness may be due to a combination of several things.
a.) The type of microSD card you have in your set - when I was searching to buy one, I noticed there are 2 types : a normal one and and ultra II. The difference is the ultra II has a faster read/write speed, which is affects the general speed/performance of the TT6.
b.) AFAIK(As far as I Know) The orbit has a bit more capabilities than the MDAC3 such as WIFI. This additional function the same processor-OMAP850 has to cater for. Now, this porcessor is not necessarily the most efficient or the fastest available, so impacts performance as well.
c.) If you overclock, there will be a noticable improvement in performance, and a corresponding increase in battery consumption, but this may not translate to an improved experience with TT6, if you have it on a normal card vis ultra II.
The speed of refreshing the map overlay and playing the sound files associated I believe is the reason you hear the instructions after passing the landmarks/turnings, all of which I think is due to the card read/write spead again, plus the processor speed.
Answer to Q3
Its surprising that you mentioned GPRS - as this differs from GPS which the TomTom uses, though I was made to understand that a SatNav software may also use the GPRS (wierd - as this is VERY expensive if you dont have the unlimited package only available cheaply on T-Mobile). You may want to check the the connection settings of the TomTom, changing it to connect using the GPS on a port you set on the hardware.
Start Menu > Settings > System> GPS > Hardware (You may also set the port for TT6 to connect on the Program window.
TT6 starts the GPS receiver upon request for navigation (which I thought was intelligent - to save battery power)
Lastly,
IMOE (In my own Experience) I initially installed the TT6 software + maps from the DVD + POI overlay to the microSD ULTRA II, and noticed it froze up many times then I installed in the phone memory, removed the overlay (TT6 has a manageable one), maps still in the microSD and it stopped freezing up, plus refresh of map was every second.
Now I have overclocked with the hope of a good performance whilst multitasking, which is Ok with some combinations and not with others. Hence my conclusion as stated above. The processor really can be better, but Vs price, it will not be marketable in its class with the many ther products out there at the price it is given.
I hope I have been of some help.
Cheers
AD10
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Truly excellent stuff.
Thanks!

mikealder said:
You can use a 2D map mode if you really want to, go to change preferences/ Turn off 3D display.
You can overclock the unit but I have found no valid reason to actually do this.
The GPRS charges are only applicable to the actual data transferred to/ from your device, so don't worry about it remaining connected - if there is no data traffic there will be no extra charges.
Leave the GPS applet alone (the one that exists in the settings menu) this often leads to confusion and is only really needed to be used/ set-up IF you want to run two applications at the same time (not something the Artemis excels at due to the processor power). Set to Other NMEA GPS receiver/ Baud 9600/ COM4 should be all that is required.
As for poor GPS reception, you mention the car has a heated screen, is this Athermic glass which is known to attenuate the signal or a standard wire heater element embeded in the glass (which do not affect GPS performance) - make sure the Quick GPS data is up to date, and don't drive a
round until the device has actually locked on to the signal - Mike
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Thank you Mike
They are very very useful tips!
Appreciated

hi there
i have just fot the xda orbit and just trying to find me way round it but i was hopeing for a helping hand from anyone on here , i want a sat nav on it but is there any software you can get which means you dont have to pay to use and i want a to try obatin spb pocket software any ideas how i would get that please
i look forward to hearing form anyone lol

briancross said:
i have just fot the xda orbit and just trying to find me way round it but i was hopeing for a helping hand from anyone on here , i want a sat nav on it but is there any software you can get which means you dont have to pay to use and i want a to try obatin spb pocket software any ideas how i would get that please
i look forward to hearing form anyone lol
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This thread is all about TomTom6. Best Sat-Nav software I have found for the Orbit. Doesn't cost anything to use after you purchase the software, unless you want to add the extra's, like Traffic data or Weather data.

TT6 and WM6 sloww processing
I updated my Orbit to WM6 yesterday and was a bit annoyed that TomTom has slowed down to a point where it's pretty useless for navigating. this is made worse by the fact that on WM5 it was faultless, and a lot faster to process than an Eten glofiish X500, which has a 400MHz processor!
Can I roll my Orbit back to WM5? If so, how do I do it?

nubbin said:
I updated my Orbit to WM6 yesterday and was a bit annoyed that TomTom has slowed down to a point where it's pretty useless for navigating. this is made worse by the fact that on WM5 it was faultless, and a lot faster to process than an Eten glofiish X500, which has a 400MHz processor!
Can I roll my Orbit back to WM5? If so, how do I do it?
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You can download O2 UK WM5 ROM from these forums. just run this and you should be OK back to WM5.
On a different note. I too installed WM6 onto my Orbit and noticed NO slow down in speed of navigation. If anything I noticed it was slightly faster. Not sure why you experience the opposite from me.
Only thing I can think of is:- Did you install O2 WM6? or B&B v4?

Shand359 said:
You can download O2 UK WM5 ROM from these forums. just run this and you should be OK back to WM5.
On a different note. I too installed WM6 onto my Orbit and noticed NO slow down in speed of navigation. If anything I noticed it was slightly faster. Not sure why you experience the opposite from me.
Only thing I can think of is:- Did you install O2 WM6? or B&B v4?
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I've got my upgrade from the official O2 site. tell me more about B&B v4? What is it, where is it, and is it any good? Can I do another install over the O2 WM6? Thanks in advance.

nubbin said:
I've got my upgrade from the official O2 site. tell me more about B&B v4? What is it, where is it, and is it any good? Can I do another install over the O2 WM6? Thanks in advance.
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Go into the mobile 6 thread in the forums. Black & Blue version4 looks a lot better that O2's WM6 and runs a damn site faster too. Do not upgrade to O2 WM6 first though. You need to be running WM5 and then upgrade to B&B 4 as the upgrade does something to the handset and seems to block any further update.
Before you do anything you need to download and install USPL on your handset. If you don't do USPL first you will end up with a stylish "brick"

Shand359 said:
Go into the mobile 6 thread in the forums. Black & Blue version4 looks a lot better that O2's WM6 and runs a damn site faster too. Do not upgrade to O2 WM6 first though. You need to be running WM5 and then upgrade to B&B 4 as the upgrade does something to the handset and seems to block any further update.
Before you do anything you need to download and install USPL on your handset. If you don't do USPL first you will end up with a stylish "brick"
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Many thanks for that. I searched the site last night, and found B&B v4, and V3.7, and also USPL. Unfortunately, I had already upgraded with the O2 WM6, so although I have also been able to roll back to WM5 (and TomTom is now back up to speed), I am getting the "Image file corrupted" message with any attempted update, including USPL. Looks like I've been blocked from any updates unless anyone has a solution? I still have my Glofiish X500 running WM6, but the XDA runs TomTom more quickly.

nubbin said:
Many thanks for that. I searched the site last night, and found B&B v4, and V3.7, and also USPL. Unfortunately, I had already upgraded with the O2 WM6, so although I have also been able to roll back to WM5 (and TomTom is now back up to speed), I am getting the "Image file corrupted" message with any attempted update, including USPL. Looks like I've been blocked from any updates unless anyone has a solution? I still have my Glofiish X500 running WM6, but the XDA runs TomTom more quickly.
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This has happened to a few people. Download the file again and try.
P.S. Are you using XP or Vista. Vista seems to be a bit problematic. Some people have gotten Vista to flash ok, I on the otherhand have not.
For complete trouble free flashing use XP.
Run start_uspl.exe file, then after phone has rebooted again, run the ROM of your choice and upgrade to WM6. You won't be disappointed.........unless you run the O2 WM6 which I have found to be a big disappointment.

Success!
Hi Shand359
The Artemis USPL successfully "unlocked" my XDA, and after that it was an easy ROM update - I know have a fully functional B&B v4! Many thanks for your help and advice - donation to PDAViet on it's way.
TomTom v660.1256 map now working just as well as before - just in time for my 10 day driving trip to Spain at the end of the month. I thought I was going to have to buy a TomTom unit, but no need now.
Incidentally, I haven't worked out what "Touch Flo" is all about - can you enlighten me?

nubbin said:
Hi Shand359
The Artemis USPL successfully "unlocked" my XDA, and after that it was an easy ROM update - I know have a fully functional B&B v4! Many thanks for your help and advice - donation to PDAViet on it's way.
TomTom v660.1256 map now working just as well as before - just in time for my 10 day driving trip to Spain at the end of the month. I thought I was going to have to buy a TomTom unit, but no need now.
Incidentally, I haven't worked out what "Touch Flo" is all about - can you enlighten me?
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If you press the windows key ( beside the GPS key) then drag your finger across the screen from left to right, the cube should spin with different icons on it. Looks cool.

Touch Flo
Got it now. Even my teenage son thinks it's "way cooooool"!

Need GPS functionality without Phone Service

I will be out of the country without Sprint coverage, but I need my GPS to function.
Last time I went out of the country the GPS could never get a fix because the phone didn't have coverage.
Isn't there a registry setting allowing GPS functionality without phone coverage?
Thanks

Uhh, I could always get a lock when I had my phone in Flight Mode...
But then again, I'm on Verizon and not running an official sprint rom.
What ROM/Radio/etc are you using?
EDIT: But yeah, i think there is a setting (GPSMode) in the registry, which u can change from Assisted to Autonomous or whatever, where it's not Assisted GPS anymore; stand-alone mode basically

Alright sorry for the double-post, but I want to make you aware that I just tested it in Flight Mode and with certain settings, it won't lock well on the radio I'm using (3.42.40), but with the right settings, and a little bit of patience (about 2 min in my case), it will lock.
The following are my registry settings (that matter)
HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS
EnableAGPS=1
EnableGPSSmartMode=1
GPSMode=0
ServerIP=172.25.8.100
ServerPort=7788
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I hope this helps you. Enjoy your trip.

I'm somewhat confused by those settings. They are probably right but it seems counter intuitive and I am trying to understand.
I would think that you'd want to EnableAGPS to be 0. Then it wouldn't try to reach the cell towers or internet site. Right? But maybe the GPSMode=0 resolves that. And if it does the IP and Port should be irrelevent. Especially if the idea is to make sure it doesn't try to connect to the internet.

BrianLayman said:
I'm somewhat confused by those settings. They are probably right but it seems counter intuitive and I am trying to understand.
I would think that you'd want to EnableAGPS to be 0. Then it wouldn't try to reach the cell towers or internet site. Right? But maybe the GPSMode=0 resolves that. And if it does the IP and Port should be irrelevent. Especially if the idea is to make sure it doesn't try to connect to the internet.
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Correct, I had troubles when i set EnableAGPS to 0, i think it turned off the GPS entirely.
And GPSMode=0 is autonomous mode or whatever.
For more info, see http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=28049

Cool. Thanks for the extra info. Interesting that the EnableAGPS=0 breaks stuff...
Forums are much more interesting when people are willing to actually talk and not drop into Defensiveniess/flamewars instantly! I appreciate your response.

BrianLayman said:
Cool. Thanks for the extra info. Interesting that the EnableAGPS=0 breaks stuff...
Forums are much more interesting when people are willing to actually talk and not drop into Defensiveniess/flamewars instantly! I appreciate your response.
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You're welcome. I was willing to do it after I backed up because I was having strange GPS issues the past few days and I wanted to see if I could get things rolling normally again. Someone said that this mode works better for geocaching too, so that's another reason why I wanted to try it.
Now I just need to find a better selection of software for my device; I'm still not happy with HTC Home, need to find a good replacement that doesn't rape the screen in landscape mode.

“WiFi on demand” utility.

Hi
I’ve been searching for a Windows Mobile WiFi app that does the following:
When an application (namely Pocket Outlook) requires Internet access
WiFi app turns on WiFi and connects to a preconfigured WiFi network
Application (Pocket Outlook) connects to Internet, downloads, disconnects.
WiFi app turns off WiFi.
It is basically for situations where Pocket Outlook checks for email every 60 minutes and there is no Cellular data network coverage. Instead of tweaking the registry to keep WiFi on all time, I would like to conserve battery power and turn on/off WiFi when necessary. Kind of like a “WiFi on demand” utility.
Please let me know if any similar app exists. Thank you.
Chris
Sprint Palm Treo Pro

That sounds like a neat idea. I'm looking for an app that will just turn on the wifi based on time of day or GPS location. I wonder if there is an app out there that incorporates these features?

@AllononMage
You could try gprofile http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=gprofile/about
It provides you with the capability to turn wifi on and off based on time of day or cell tower you are connected to. Though this is not GPS it might be what you are looking for.

GSDLt said:
@AllononMage
You could try gprofile http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=gprofile/about
It provides you with the capability to turn wifi on and off based on time of day or cell tower you are connected to. Though this is not GPS it might be what you are looking for.
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this looks interesting, thanks for pointing it out.

Excellent Link
GSDLt said:
@AllononMage
You could try gprofile http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=gprofile/about
It provides you with the capability to turn wifi on and off based on time of day or cell tower you are connected to. Though this is not GPS it might be what you are looking for.
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This program has SO much potential to help manage WinMo.
Excellent find.
Thanks for putting up the link

HIYinOR said:
This program has SO much potential to help manage WinMo.
Excellent find.
Thanks for putting up the link
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Hi HIY,
I hope that after you've found some time to explore the app you might come back and give some feedback. I can't quite wrap my head around how to utilize this app... but I sort of see the ballpark idea.
Thank you

quicksite said:
Hi HIY,
I hope that after you've found some time to explore the app you might come back and give some feedback. I can't quite wrap my head around how to utilize this app... but I sort of see the ballpark idea.
Thank you
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lol Yes it will take some time to figure out and I will give some feed back when I do... that may be a few days to a week though, as I have a few things on my plate.
From what I have read so far, you need to plan what you want to have happen... time-event-app-order-action like turn on bluetooth at 10PM start Activesync Sync calendar, disconnect, turn off blue tooth. Turn off radio at 11pm and on at 6am on monday thru friday, dim screen light to 20% at 6pm... It seems like an unlimited number of scenarios can be set up, but you then need to create a hierarchy for each G-profile so they do not cross paths.
Great potential, like having the radio turnoff while at work but on at lunch automaticlly... but will take time to master
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I am just too busy or lazy to spend time learning how to make this work, though really do I believe it would be worth it...

i found this app a while ago, and think its pretty cool. but i have an unlimited plan, so it doesnt matter to me. nice, and hope it helps. its called rk-OSR, i cant post a link because im a new member, but it is on this forum. use the search i suppose. it allows you to snyc instantly and will auto-connect to wifi before.
link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316696
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found this, may also be of interest
link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=586991

No more BR roms - I sold my iPAQ

Hey people,
Yesterday I got fed up with my iPAQ 910c, put it on craigslist and sold it for not much less than what I originally paid for it.
Mainly, the lack of Cell-ID support from HP was really annoying: all kinds of times when I wanted a quick sense of where I was from Google Maps, I'd have to wait a long time for a GPS fix and make sure I held the phone out with a clear view of the sky. Not exactly convenient. And even though Rogers is selling the iPAQ 910c on contract, HP hasn't provided an rilgsm.dll with Name Display (CNAP) support. Stupid.
That, and WM6.5 brings with it (in my opinion) features that really prefer a higher-res screen. And a directional control more advanced than a scroll wheel. And a light sensor to automatically adjust brightness (as opposed to me having the 61x/91x brightness control on hotkey, lol). And more speed.
...so I'm getting an Xperia X1.
It was fun cooking with y'all, and so I leave you in the capable hands of monte & keyx. Adios amigos!

Wow!
Sorry to lose your development skills on the 910 - I always enjoyed your ROMs.
Happy trails!

many thanks to you..
i'm still running your WM6.5 on my ipaq.
but, i'm also wondering to replacing my ipaq with xperia. how does xperia compared to ipaq 912, i just want to know from your point of view.
thx

So far it is awesome - the 800x480 screen is amazing with WM6.5, and the device seems to get both better speed and battery life than the iPAQ. That, plus the Xperia has just enough less width than the iPAQ for me to wrap my hand around when I'm carrying it, running, etc. Not only does Cell-ID provide instant estimates of my location in Google Maps (which itself looks amazing at WVGA), but GPS fix seems to take a fraction of the time it did on the iPAQ.
I can't do one-handed QWERTY typing as quickly or easily as with the iPAQ, but with two hands I don't notice much difference. The screen doesn't pick up nearly as many fingerprint smudges as my iPAQ did. And the optical trackball functions more like the little "pearl" on Blackberries, something HP should have put in the middle of that giant D-PAD.
But basically the screen is the biggest improvement: I went from seeing like 3 titanium homescreen entries on the ipaq (with WM6.5) to now seeing all of them at once. That's huge. I nearly broke even on the upgrade too - bought the iPAQ on eBay this January for like $240, sold for $200 on craigslist, and just got the Xperia from Rogers on a 3-year contract for $225.
Thankfully, there is a large ROM cooking community already in place for the Xperia, so that takes some of the pressure off. My understanding is that cooking for the HP devices is relatively easy once the tools exist; the SD-Loader isn't checking for signed ROM images so no low-level device unlocking is required. HTC phones are a different story - even the ones sold "SIM unlocked" still come with a bootloader that won't accept custom ROMs, and certain XDA gurus have to make a "HardSPL" modified bootloader before custom ROMs can be flashed. Case in point: the poor suckers with the Palm Treo Pro are still without any custom ROMs whatsoever, because the phone isn't quite popular enough to have reached somebody who can make a HardSPL (they're working on that).
Once a HardSPL exists, though, HTC ROM development tends to explode because they keep using the same underlying hardware. Thus the Xperia light sensor is the same as the one on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro; the radio hardware is interchangeable with those phones too. Moral of the story: check out the state of ROM development before you buy.

soory 2 hear u are out of ipaq roms u had good ones
anyway good luck with your new device and try 2 keep a look 4 plastic cracks
i 4 myself like the front KB like the 6900 900 i780...
i had the ipaq 800 (data messenger) with light sensor dpad sensor very fast gps...(device generl speed slower then the 900 and have no SR )
had some htc devices with sliding hard KB but on such devices i found myself using software KB (if u sms or need somthing short u will see it 2)
the screen must be a great thing
enjoy and tnx 4 all

Good look with the new toy.

Noooooooo....how dare you betray us front facing keyboard lovers!!!
It was good having your roms and knowledge...best of luck with the Xperia!!
I'm currently waiting for a replacement 910c from Rogers right now...my USB connector stopped working Maybe I'll just replace my phone altogether...but...I must have WM, front facing keyboard, gps, wifi, and 7.2mbps dl speed
We'll see what comes out...Samsung looks like it might have a good rival
Again, many thanks and good luck!

Well, congrats on the "upgrade" - I thought someone on Rogers would for sure go for a quad-band phone, but maybe the tri-band will work well enough for you where you are.
By the way - the "cell ID" thing is being worked on, and I thought I had a quick solution involving "cell broadcast" settings in the registry. It's probably only weeks away from being fixed. Keep checking back to see if we get it right.

gfinockio said:
Well, congrats on the "upgrade" - I thought someone on Rogers would for sure go for a quad-band phone, but maybe the tri-band will work well enough for you where you are.
By the way - the "cell ID" thing is being worked on, and I thought I had a quick solution involving "cell broadcast" settings in the registry. It's probably only weeks away from being fixed. Keep checking back to see if we get it right.
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lol I'm in downtown Toronto, but the Xperia is actually quad-band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and tri-band UMTS (850/1900/2100). Which is exactly the same as the iPAQ.
I wish you the best of luck getting the Cell-ID thing working. I'm mostly just pissed that after all this time Inventec hasn't made a few simple changes to their radio firmware, and HP has the nerve to blame the network carrier in their documentation!
Anyway EREZYAD is right, these past few days my text entry has been split about 50-50 between the software keyboard in portrait mode and the hardware keyboard in landscape. Neither are quite as good as the iPAQ 910c, but the combination is sufficient.

so long benjaminries, never used your rom's but always sad to lose a chef

gfinockio said:
Well, congrats on the "upgrade" - I thought someone on Rogers would for sure go for a quad-band phone, but maybe the tri-band will work well enough for you where you are.
By the way - the "cell ID" thing is being worked on, and I thought I had a quick solution involving "cell broadcast" settings in the registry. It's probably only weeks away from being fixed. Keep checking back to see if we get it right.
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Whats up with the "cell ID" issue? Did you get fixed? Can you explain whats wrong with cell ID on HP iPAQ 910c?

zmadaric said:
Whats up with the "cell ID" issue? Did you get fixed? Can you explain whats wrong with cell ID on HP iPAQ 910c?
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The fact that the 910c doesn't seem to work with Google Maps "My Location" function without using GPS.

gfinockio said:
The fact that the 910c doesn't seem to work with Google Maps "My Location" function without using GPS.
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This is corroborated by other apps like Navizon that also don't work on the HP 91x/61x.
Basically, the RIL interface specified by Microsoft has several API functions that apps are supposed to be able to call which should return an ID code that identifies the cell tower to which the phone is currently connected. As far as I can tell, the OEM (HP) is supposed to adapt firmware and corresponding WinMo driver files like rilgsm.dll from the radio manufacturer (Qualcomm) to meet Microsoft's specification; however some OEMs like HP "choose" not to implement these APIs such that requests by apps for the Cell ID return a constant error code.
There appear to be two alternative methods of retrieving the cell ID that might have given us hope for HP: (1) broadcast channels and (2) serial requests. But the first option is unhelpful in North America where GSM carriers don't use broadcast channels, and the second option (when I tested it) didn't seem to work either - basically there are a number of direct modem commands that can be sent over COM ports to ask for the cell ID. The results of my testing suggested that the problem lies, at least in part, within the radio firmware itself - perhaps provided to HP by their main manufacturer, Inventec.
To me, the fact that HP/Inventec didn't fix these problems - despite mass outcry by users - suggests that while HP is still patching up what they can on the software side (releasing ROM updates for keyboard and sound issues), whoever created the radio firmware (Inventec?) has sort of walked away, or at least has no stake in keeping existing customers happy.
What the xda-developers community knows about and is able to do with actual HTC hardware, by comparison, is huge...

You did the best bro. It is nearly 2010 and I believe that any other phone after that time should have a BIG scren.

Google latitude

Anybody got this working on the hero?
I saw it on the gadget show where the presenter was seeing her friends current position (who was carrying a gps enabled phone) on her pc in real time and she was able to see where she was going etc.
Now i have paired up the pc and my hero but when looking at my profile on the pc it gives my position of a day ago or 23 hours ago!
Is it possible to see in "real time" or is it only able to see past locations?
Thanks in advance
Gaz

It's working right out of the box for me.

I've been using it since I got my hero.
It works great, I can see all my mates on it in real-time too!
Make sure you've set it up properly...

I set it up on igoogle on my laptop and just added a friend(my hero) and thats all i did. but like i say it doesn't show in real time!
Is there anything in particular i should check for?
Thanks
Gaz

I don't think so, since Latitude worked for me right out of the box, as I got my Hero (before it I was using Latitude on a Windows Mobile device). No configuration was needed at all.

@ngel said:
I don't think so, since Latitude worked for me right out of the box, as I got my Hero (before it I was using Latitude on a Windows Mobile device). No configuration was needed at all.
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Hmm. No special requirements are needed from the laptop or anything? Just seems strange.I can pair with the laptop ok but it always shows onw day ago???????
Gaz

Google Latitude works fine for me.
Not in realtime but it works
realtime would mean everyone have to update their location all the time with enabled GPS. oh god my battery

Gazaman said:
Hmm. No special requirements are needed from the laptop or anything? Just seems strange.I can pair with the laptop ok but it always shows onw day ago???????
Gaz
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Latitude works regardless of the device running it: if a GPS receiver il available you'll get the maximum precision, on a regular phone your location will be fixed out (rather well, to be honest) using WiFi hotspots well-known location, carrier geolocation (if available and applicable) and a number of other less obvious methods.
So, on your Hero it'll work using GPS, WiFi or cell tower location: a laptop is not required.
So, if Latitude isn't working for you I can suggest a double-check at its website, looking for some wrong setting. Please note that you'll have to explicitly activate your location sharing, as it's turned off by default. See here: http://www.google.com/latitude/apps/badge

oooops.............schoolboy error!!!
My calendar was out by a day hence being out by 24hrs....Sorry guys but didn't feel the need to check as it shouldn't be wrong
Do i keep having to refresh the page then to see where it is?
Sorry once again folks
Gaz