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whats the fastest WiFi signal strength scanner?

I'm going hunting for routers at the hotel tomorrow to help the manager fix this place up and would like something that refreshes faster than every 1 second. It's damn cold out and would like to be able to walk right to a router.
Thanks.

I use WiFiFoFum.
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/wififofum.shtml
Works pretty well for me.

WiFiFoFum all the way...
It also can use GPS to keep track of all of the access points it finds.

thats what I ended up using. good call.

Pucksr said:
WiFiFoFum all the way...
It also can use GPS to keep track of all of the access points it finds.
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I just turned this on for a second yesterday but didn't get to play with it. It didn't seem like it refreshed (at least quickly). Could you let me know what your configuration under menu looks like?

Need GPS functionality without Phone Service

I will be out of the country without Sprint coverage, but I need my GPS to function.
Last time I went out of the country the GPS could never get a fix because the phone didn't have coverage.
Isn't there a registry setting allowing GPS functionality without phone coverage?
Thanks

Uhh, I could always get a lock when I had my phone in Flight Mode...
But then again, I'm on Verizon and not running an official sprint rom.
What ROM/Radio/etc are you using?
EDIT: But yeah, i think there is a setting (GPSMode) in the registry, which u can change from Assisted to Autonomous or whatever, where it's not Assisted GPS anymore; stand-alone mode basically

Alright sorry for the double-post, but I want to make you aware that I just tested it in Flight Mode and with certain settings, it won't lock well on the radio I'm using (3.42.40), but with the right settings, and a little bit of patience (about 2 min in my case), it will lock.
The following are my registry settings (that matter)
HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS
EnableAGPS=1
EnableGPSSmartMode=1
GPSMode=0
ServerIP=172.25.8.100
ServerPort=7788
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I hope this helps you. Enjoy your trip.

I'm somewhat confused by those settings. They are probably right but it seems counter intuitive and I am trying to understand.
I would think that you'd want to EnableAGPS to be 0. Then it wouldn't try to reach the cell towers or internet site. Right? But maybe the GPSMode=0 resolves that. And if it does the IP and Port should be irrelevent. Especially if the idea is to make sure it doesn't try to connect to the internet.

BrianLayman said:
I'm somewhat confused by those settings. They are probably right but it seems counter intuitive and I am trying to understand.
I would think that you'd want to EnableAGPS to be 0. Then it wouldn't try to reach the cell towers or internet site. Right? But maybe the GPSMode=0 resolves that. And if it does the IP and Port should be irrelevent. Especially if the idea is to make sure it doesn't try to connect to the internet.
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Correct, I had troubles when i set EnableAGPS to 0, i think it turned off the GPS entirely.
And GPSMode=0 is autonomous mode or whatever.
For more info, see http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=28049

Cool. Thanks for the extra info. Interesting that the EnableAGPS=0 breaks stuff...
Forums are much more interesting when people are willing to actually talk and not drop into Defensiveniess/flamewars instantly! I appreciate your response.

BrianLayman said:
Cool. Thanks for the extra info. Interesting that the EnableAGPS=0 breaks stuff...
Forums are much more interesting when people are willing to actually talk and not drop into Defensiveniess/flamewars instantly! I appreciate your response.
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You're welcome. I was willing to do it after I backed up because I was having strange GPS issues the past few days and I wanted to see if I could get things rolling normally again. Someone said that this mode works better for geocaching too, so that's another reason why I wanted to try it.
Now I just need to find a better selection of software for my device; I'm still not happy with HTC Home, need to find a good replacement that doesn't rape the screen in landscape mode.

Wifi is flakey at some APs

I have installed and uninstalled a number of firmware/mod combinations on my xv6800 in hopes to get the GPS working. I don't believe that's going to happen (saddly, I feel like there's a conspiracy out there to trick peeps like me into spending weeks on this problem without any positive outcome) so I'm currently focusing on what DOES work with this device.
One thing that's flakey is the wifi. At home I'm running WEP128. It connects sometimes, others it will not. When it does not automatically connect but sees it, it asks for the key each time. What's the deal with that? Entering my long a$$ key each time has made me memorize it, but it's still a serious PITA. I don't have the same issue at most other places - still using WEP128. Doesn't appear to have any issues connecting to open APs. Does have issues connecting to a friend's AP, i that it doesn't even SEE it as available any more, after the initial 3-4 connects.
Thoughts on why this could be happening? Not having the GPS makes me very angry, but then to not have reliable wifi practially makes the device pointless, as I have another phone, my own PED and an actual good camera... and a laptop.
thanks for any helpful thoughts.
Chris

Chris,
I'm assuming from your post that the "XV" indicates you have a Verizon Phone? If so you might look at this link pertaining to GPS
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/
I'm not sure what to tell you about the WiFi. Mine works fine...

iamchrismoran said:
I have installed and uninstalled a number of firmware/mod combinations on my xv6800 in hopes to get the GPS working. I don't believe that's going to happen (saddly, I feel like there's a conspiracy out there to trick peeps like me into spending weeks on this problem without any positive outcome) so I'm currently focusing on what DOES work with this device.
One thing that's flakey is the wifi. At home I'm running WEP128. It connects sometimes, others it will not. When it does not automatically connect but sees it, it asks for the key each time. What's the deal with that? Entering my long a$$ key each time has made me memorize it, but it's still a serious PITA. I don't have the same issue at most other places - still using WEP128. Doesn't appear to have any issues connecting to open APs. Does have issues connecting to a friend's AP, i that it doesn't even SEE it as available any more, after the initial 3-4 connects.
Thoughts on why this could be happening? Not having the GPS makes me very angry, but then to not have reliable wifi practially makes the device pointless, as I have another phone, my own PED and an actual good camera... and a laptop.
thanks for any helpful thoughts.
Chris
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I have the verizon Titan and just use mac filtering on my wireless router. The encryption slows it down to much for me and basically need the same encryption scheme on both sides to get it to work properly. I don't do anything that it needs to be encrypted and the mac filtering keeps the neighbors out as well.

timm9 said:
Chris,
I'm assuming from your post that the "XV" indicates you have a Verizon Phone? If so you might look at this link pertaining to GPS
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/
I'm not sure what to tell you about the WiFi. Mine works fine...
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Wow, of all the tuts and instructions I've tried and read, that one has never crossed my screen - and I have tried at least 4-5 different ones. The phone's already unlocked and has a custom rom on it. I didn't get an impression either way if this method will reset the device/settings/files/etc in it again. I guess I could try it out. Thanks.
I'm getting to the point of just wanting to pay someone to get teh GPS working on it.
The Wifi issue is just weird and flakey. No rhyme or reason I can see.
Chris

jambrose said:
I have the verizon Titan and just use mac filtering on my wireless router. The encryption slows it down to much for me and basically need the same encryption scheme on both sides to get it to work properly. I don't do anything that it needs to be encrypted and the mac filtering keeps the neighbors out as well.
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I think of doing that often... but well... I don't have a but. WEP is hackable, but feels secure enough , considering I have a bunch of secure APs in my neighborhood... some obscurity helps as well.
I know that sometimes if I restart my AP (linksys wrt54g) the xv6800 will just find it and connect on it's own.
Chris

There is absolutely no reason why gps should not work on your device. In fact in this forum we really don't even discuss it too much anymore because it's really just an understood thing to be working. If you are on verizon use the latest alltel radio 3.42.xx I can't remember exactly, load dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4 and start from there. Wifi on these roms have power saving features make sure if you are using wifi that you have strength up to full. Also, all the moguls that I have had, DO NOT COUNT ON THEM AUTOMATICALLY FINDING ACCESS POINTS, simply go to start->settings->connections "view all available access points" and select the one you want to use. I have heard cases of gps having trouble locking if wifi is on so make sure the switch is off and vise versa. Do the verizon qpst and registry settings change. On verizon you should have a lock within 30 seconds everytime if you are within the continental US. Good luck and take your time.

Sweeny Russ said:
There is absolutely no reason why gps should not work on your device. In fact in this forum we really don't even discuss it too much anymore because it's really just an understood thing to be working.
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Haha... yeah, that's what's so frustrating. So many people getting it to work and me not. I'm no dolt. I follow directions quite well.
If you are on verizon use the latest alltel radio 3.42.xx I can't remember exactly, load dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4 and start from there. Wifi on these roms have power saving features make sure if you are using wifi that you have strength up to full. Also, all the moguls that I have had, DO NOT COUNT ON THEM AUTOMATICALLY FINDING ACCESS POINTS, simply go to start->settings->connections "view all available access points" and select the
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I have 3.42.something new within the last two months. My first attempt was with the DCD. Nada.
As for finding available access points, at my friend's place, it just shows it listed as unavailable. At home, it will SEE it and even attempt to connect, but often fails, except for those random times when it will connect.
one you want to use. I have heard cases of gps having trouble locking if wifi is on so make sure the switch is off and vise versa. Do the verizon qpst and registry settings change. On verizon you should have a lock within 30 seconds everytime if you are within the continental US. Good luck and take your time.
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Hm... will it maintain the lock with the wifi turned back on afterward? The whole point is to be able to use gmaps with the GPS. I can install other s/w that has it's own maps as well, bypassing the need for the wifi, but for starters, getting GPS working first is important.
It's a verizon phone, but I don't have service turned on yet. I'm not going to switch my number over until I'm happy with how it's set up. I do not intend on using a data plan - too expensive, so wifi when in range and other gps s/w when I'm not will be used.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I have taken some serious time with this. The nice thing is that I don't have to rush, so I've tried MANY different things from the forums and even the PPCgeeks IRC channel. If I practice any more patience, I'll be sleeping.
Chris

iamchrismoran said:
Wow, of all the tuts and instructions I've tried and read, that one has never crossed my screen - and I have tried at least 4-5 different ones. The phone's already unlocked and has a custom rom on it. I didn't get an impression either way if this method will reset the device/settings/files/etc in it again. I guess I could try it out. Thanks.
I'm getting to the point of just wanting to pay someone to get teh GPS working on it.
The Wifi issue is just weird and flakey. No rhyme or reason I can see.
Chris
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That phonenews article was VERY helpful in getting me started, but:
It is ancient. Those old roms have problem. Use the newest DCD roms and radios found here. (thanks DCD and everyone)
ALSO, on the GPS.
If you EVER, EVER, installed the new Verizon MR1 upgrade, the GPS is locked. No worky no more..... But, simply find the older Verizon rom, it can be found. Downgrade to it and run it. Then go straight to the DCD rom/radio.

worwig said:
That phonenews article was VERY helpful in getting me started, but:
It is ancient. Those old roms have problem. Use the newest DCD roms and radios found here. (thanks DCD and everyone)
ALSO, on the GPS.
If you EVER, EVER, installed the new Verizon MR1 upgrade, the GPS is locked. No worky no more..... But, simply find the older Verizon rom, it can be found. Downgrade to it and run it. Then go straight to the DCD rom/radio.
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I did try the MR1 upgrade based aGPS hack, but I then realized that aGPS only matters if you've got a working GPS at all. Anyway, I then downgraded again and started over from scratch. I got my phone in September and did my series of hacks/upgrades/unlocks over the course of two weeks or nightly tries and retries. It's nice to hear someone say it WILL work, but Murphy's Law is working overtime with me on this one.

It is my understanding that if you don't have internet access than gps will not just not work on mogul. The gps one chip I believe is strictly an AGPS chip and cannot lock without using agps. However I guess some people have done it and use it, although even if you get it to work the lock will take forever. The mogul really needs that emphemeris data from the north american gps servers to function correctly. I didn't realize these were your terms.

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It is my understanding that if you don't have internet access than gps will not just not work on mogul. The gps one chip I believe is strictly an AGPS chip and cannot lock without using agps. However I guess some people have done it and use it, although even if you get it to work the lock will take forever. The mogul really needs that emphemeris data from the north american gps servers to function correctly. I didn't realize these were your terms.
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I've never seen it written anywhere that one would be required to have a data connection with the service provider to get a GPS lock. Seems ridiculous to me. If I wanted to pay for a data connection, then why the heck not just pay for the VZ Navigator access??
I've never seen aGPS as a requirement either. If all the tuts were about aGPS, I'd see that having that data connection was important. Boy, I sure could use a definitive on this. If I KNOW for fact that GPS just doesn't work without a data connection, I'd have to suck it up and get an external bluetooth GPS device if I care enough. I have believed however all along that the whole point was to access GPS hardware without incurring data charges.
thanks,
Chris

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
its not the mogul, but same idea.

iamchrismoran said:
I did try the MR1 upgrade based aGPS hack, but I then realized that aGPS only matters if you've got a working GPS at all. Anyway, I then downgraded again and started over from scratch. I got my phone in September and did my series of hacks/upgrades/unlocks over the course of two weeks or nightly tries and retries. It's nice to hear someone say it WILL work, but Murphy's Law is working overtime with me on this one.
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Also, not trying to undermind you, but why did you aquire the mogul if you weren't planning on using internet access? I mean you loose live search, google maps, pic and video messaging, skyfire, ie, youtube, and pretty much everything that makes a mogul a mogul. If you bought it for the soul purpose of using as a gps device you definitely bought the wrong device.

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Also, not trying to undermind you, but why did you aquire the mogul if you weren't planning on using internet access? I mean you loose live search, google maps, pic and video messaging, skyfire, ie, youtube, and pretty much everything that makes a mogul a mogul. If you bought it for the soul purpose of using as a gps device you definitely bought the wrong device.
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TOTALLY reasonable question.
I will use the phone when I have it set how I like it.
I got it so I could have a reasonably convenient way to freely check my email and surf when in wifi range without needing to lug my laptop around with me. I got a good price on it, much cheaper than an actual laptop.
Nice sized screen for when I want to actually watch a ripped movie or TV show and the option to install other software on a whim to have with me is just great. I got a ppc that can be a phone essentially. I'm not a phone person, too cheap to pay for a text plan, but wifi is key. The ability to open this phone up for GPS use was a major factor in picking it from lots of research before diving in.

Keep Connection Alive - Ozone

Hi everyone,
I ordered my Ozone the day it became available on VZW's site, and xda-dev has been the only place that I've been able to find any truly helpful info. This is my first smartphone, and the community here has been invaluable. Thank you all.
I have a couple of issues that I haven't been able to figure out yet. The one from the title - I use two apps; Pandora and WMtorrent, that time out - no matter what I've tried- when I start them and put the phone down. Especially frustrating in Pandora... I can only sing along with the first two minutes of any song now - very embarrassing at parties.
I am making an assumption about the source of the Pandora problem, I know it isn't supported on the Ozone. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
I've hunted around in the registry, but I haven't found anything to tweak connection settings yet. Any advice appreciated.
Also, if anyone knows how to set the phone to always use wifi when available, that would help too. I set Start> settings> connections >advanced to either automatic or wifi, and as soon as I get out of range it defaults to VZW as the preferred connection.
Lastly, the HTC ref name for my phone is 'Cedar'. Any difference worth noting? I'm looking forward to the cooked ROMs that are being developed for the Maple.
Thanks again for a great community.

mwade0708 said:
Also, if anyone knows how to set the phone to always use wifi when available, that would help too. I set Start> settings> connections >advanced to either automatic or wifi, and as soon as I get out of range it defaults to VZW as the preferred connection.
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When you into COMM Mgr to turn Wifi On, turn Data Connection off at the same time.
Reverse process when you turn Wifi Off.
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mwade0708 said:
Hi everyone,
Especially frustrating in Pandora... I can only sing along with the first two minutes of any song now - very embarrassing at parties.
I am making an assumption about the source of the Pandora problem, I know it isn't supported on the Ozone. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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I'm having an identical problem with Pandora except I find even if I'm surfing the web or making button presses within Pandora, the song still times out after about 2 minutes. That happens with each and very song but it will eventually switch to the next song if I let it sit. I'm on the Sprint HTC Snap.

With the HTC Dash 3G (T-Mobile version of the Snap) there is a couple registry edits you can do to keep the connection open.. perhaps there is something close for the other versions. Here are the reg keys foe the Dash 3G:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\
{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\
Connections\*your connection name*\AlwaysOn = 1
There will be two *your connection name* to look for one is Data the other Internet (Internet is usually assigned to WiFi connections or 3G)

Bupahs said:
With the HTC Dash 3G (T-Mobile version of the Snap) there is a couple registry edits you can do to keep the connection open.. perhaps there is something close for the other versions. Here are the reg keys foe the Dash 3G:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\
{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\
Connections\*your connection name*\AlwaysOn = 1
There will be two *your connection name* to look for one is Data the other Internet (Internet is usually assigned to WiFi connections or 3G)
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Yup, that worked for me! I bet it'll kill battery life though. This must be a problem specific to pandora since none of my other streaming radio/youtube apps lose collection. Still... Many Thanks!

I tried this reg edit but it still cuts out. One time one song played all the way through, never before or after that though. I'm using a 3vo rom on the HTC OZONE for Verizon (CEDAR) any thoughts? I think I'll update to the latest rom by 3vo tomorrow.

brassmonkey_24_7 said:
I tried this reg edit but it still cuts out. One time one song played all the way through, never before or after that though. I'm using a 3vo rom on the HTC OZONE for Verizon (CEDAR) any thoughts? I think I'll update to the latest rom by 3vo tomorrow.
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Then its one of your other settings, either in power management or home screen timeout

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Then its one of your other settings, either in power management or home screen timeout
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I tried changing my power settings but it didn't seem to help, maybe I just need a clean start, time for an updated rom! Thanks for the help though!

I'm now running the latest rom from HTC tried the registry edit, rebooted my phone, and still my pandora cuts out after about 2 minutes. Any suggestions on what my power management settings or any other settings should be to make this work?
Thanks.

Data Connection keeps turning itself on?

I turn my data connection off through the phone settings but it seems to keep turning itself back on? Has anyone experienced this and/or knows how to sort it out?
Cheers guys

Yes there are many threads about this, check you have no auto connections enabled, like weather, facebook, mail ect, but to be honest, if the data connection is idle, it uses no more power than if it were off, i let mine run all day and i only loose 10% battery, and thats checking email every 2 hours and weather updating every 3.
Leo really is an always on device.
There are reg tweeks and cabs, and progs to help, but i found them all pretty buggy and useless, just leave it on and dont worry.
Now if you can stop the damn wireless disconnecting on sleep im a happy man .

I'll take that advice my good man ;p
Nice one bruvver ;p

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Now if you can stop the damn wireless disconnecting on sleep im a happy man .
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You don't want that.. trust me. It brings a whole new meaning to 'battery hog'!

you can also configure another data connection with fake data to prevent it from connecting.

Werid that cus my nokia 5800 stays connected to wireless for 3 days on one charge?

It is strange, but data connection almost constantly on didn't affect my HD2's battery life too badly..in fact it made almost no difference.
maybe because battery life wasn't very good in the first place

Well it should not unless its being used, good advice is drop to GSM only if you dont neet a fast connection, i have my device on GSM always, and use Morits com manager to switch to 3G+ if i need the speed, i have done this with all my phones.
3G is a bit of a power monster, and rather pointless drain unless your using it.

I,m using Nodata program to disable data connections. The draw back is you have to enable them back if you want to use internet. The program is definetly good for roaming if you want to be on a safe side.
http://htcdriver.com/index.php?page=nodata

Hey thats a handy app thanks

nodata switched my data connection back on while abroad. I just hope not to get a horrific bill now!!!