http://www.int13.net/gxmark_results.htm
Just glad the xda II is one of the few with ati imageon because video playback is really fine.
most video playback applications dont use ati imageon at all windows dont use it
and the applications have to be written to use it
pocketmvp let you deside if you want to use it but most people turn it off because it can cause issues
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Ive complained and said enough already. For once I'm pleased to share some nice info not just problems.
see link below:
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=37386#37386
It is a rather long post, so if your not in the mood just skip straight to the links at the bottom of the above mentioned post. For those (like me until recently) don't know what exactly a ATI IMAGEON enabled device is, it's well worth a look, especially for those of us who have already forked out for one.
Well, NO, unfortunately it doesn't work properly on the Hermes.
Try it, with something like TCPMP and enable it. You will see the screen jerks, shutters, and fuzzes. (Especially with BlueTooth enabled).
Looks like it another bug with the current rom.
Does work in the Hermes and better than the Universal...
Actually...it DOES work in the Hermes but obviously didn't read the provided link to more info. Where do you think the screenshot came from? It only works with MP4 format files (when using ATI IMAGEON decoder or the option below it) as that is what the processor and co-processor were specifically designed to support. For any other format e.g. Divx or xvid, you'd have to revert to RAWFRAMEBUFFER mode until compatibility had been achieved with 3rd Party Software. It is a bit of a bummer, but then there are already many other benefits that ATI brings that most are probably not aware of, like good MP4 quality recording (hence exclusive support for this format in its co-processor). :wink:
The hermes is even capable of outperforming the mighty 520MHz Universal in videoplayback (but only when utilising the ATI decoder - which still has the scrambled interface until you start the video/benchmarking)
I've been looking for some time, but have come up empty handed. Can anybody direct me to a link that shows exactly what components are in the HTC Hermes? I'm specifically trying to find out which ATI Imageon co-processor is used, so I can optimise video encoding to make use of the ATI decoder on board. Any help will be greatly appreciated as I will gladly share my future findings for everyones benefit. :wink:
Knowing this will help us also know what software will benefit from the co-procesor i.e. GPS, Games and other 3rd Party software. Thanks in advance.
ATI 3200 co-processor it is NOT!!
Hi all. It seems no one is able to add any further info on the hardware/co-procesor of the Hermes.
I'm trying to get the on-board ATI decoder to do its job, but need to find out which co-processor exactly the hermes has. In TCPMP (The Core Pocket Media Player-INMO the best Multi format Media player for PPC devices) folder in the Program Files directory, you can find a file called 'ati3200'. Version 0.66 of TCPMP has such a file dated 9th September 2005; the 0.72version however has an updated file (same name) dated 22nd Febuary 2006! Obviously this has been updated with the later versions of TCPMP, but it seems evident that it is only for that version of the ATI Imageon co-processor.
Back to my point; if we can firmly establish which co-processor we have in the Hermes, we'll b that much closer to getting support in TCPMP for our hardware accellerated ATI decoder, giving us the much needed performance boost we are currently lacking in videoplayback.
Your help is still much needed, so if anyone can contribute any info relating to which ATI co-processor resides in the Hermes, please share.
Cheers all. :wink:
Edit: After having uninstalled version 0.66 of TCPMP and re-installing v0.72rc, plus all codec inluding .aac audio plugin, I forgot to make the associations in TCPMP. So when trying to play a movie I encoded to MP4 (using ImToo DVD 2 iPod Converter) I noticed that WMPlayer plays back the movie file flawlessly without even a single jerk during forward/rewind searches or pause & resume playback. There are NO lip-syncing issues at any time either. It may be premature to say so, but it seems that MP4 hardware accelleration is taking place with the ATI decoder in WMP10 but TCPMP strggles to do it with the same codec but is able to play the file in the inferior RWFRAMEBUFFER mode, which also results in playback being jerky, fuzzy, scrambled etc; therefore indicating that the problem does in fact lie with TCPMP, especially as it only seems to support 1 of the many types of coprocessors in ATI Imageons range!
Not exactly the result I was hoping for, in that this excellent playback cannot be currently achieved in TCPMP. However, I welcome anyone to try it and see for themselves. However WMP10 lacks the settings of TCPMP and where some films may be a tad bit too dark or undersaturated, TCPMP can easily deal with this in its 'Colour' menu under Options settings.
Imageon 2282 it is then. Dissapointed!!
Well at long last thanks to mikechannon for the internal pics of a TyTN, we now know it's a ATI 2282 Co-processor:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1028601&posted=1#post1028601
Well I'm somewhat dissapointed as ATI have considerably more powerful chips that Samsung/HTC could have used, but the benefits are nonetheless worthwhile as it takes the strain off of the main CPU.
Now to let Corecodec know, so they can hopefully implement compatibility with TCPMP and the ATI hardware chip.
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Now to let Corecodec know, so they can hopefully implement compatibility with TCPMP and the ATI hardware chip.
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It's been 2 months, so I wouldn't count on that
Did you try TCPMP on Trinity ? Because on mine the screen is flashing and I can't see trought pocket controller too.
Before I've jammin and It work with no problem.
I use tcpmp 72rc1
Any help ? :_)
Thanks
Change video settings to direct draw
thanks a lot .....
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Change video settings to direct draw
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Direct Draw didn't work for me (actually made it worse). The video driver mode that seems to work best (at least on my P3600) is Raw FrameBuffer.
I set the video at GDI and its working fine. My TCPMP is ver 0.81RC1Beta
on my side all the settings are working more or less.
I already got some fuzzy screen but when I press stop (actually I don't see the button but if I press on the place it stand usually ..) the screen is OK.
Now when I watch TV broadcast from my PC (with my internet provider) in mpeg1 384kbs it is better with direct draw than with ATI Imageon whci works better than ATI imageon decoder ....
TCPMP / Coreplayer Doesn't support the combination Samsung CPU ATI Imageon chip, in Coreplayers forum their is a lot of information about that, they are trying to get info about the chip from ATI but no luck yet. Raw Framebuffer seems to work, but gives a really slow TCPMP/Coreplayer. Until the problems are solved I use to convert my movies to "Ipod" format .mp4 wihich Mediaplayer in Trinity supports through the ATI chip, an .mp4 file of 768kbps and 30fps runs smooth in WMP
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TCPMP / Coreplayer Doesn't support the combination Samsung CPU ATI Imageon chip, in Coreplayers forum their is a lot of information about that, they are trying to get info about the chip from ATI but no luck yet. Raw Framebuffer seems to work, but gives a really slow TCPMP/Coreplayer. Until the problems are solved I use to convert my movies to "Ipod" format .mp4 wihich Mediaplayer in Trinity supports through the ATI chip, an .mp4 file of 768kbps and 30fps runs smooth in WMP
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MP4, huh? I'll have to try that out. WMV playback in Windows Media Player is still slow and sucks just like TCPMP/Coreplayer.
Hi,
okay I was playing around with Coreplayer changing settings etc from Raw Framebuffer (which is currently the only stable way to play video) to GDI and then to ATI Imageon, which we all know causes problems (hence why we use Raw Framebuffer)
For some reason it became stable with one video that I was playing using ATI Imageon - so seized the opportunity to benchmark the video; first using Raw Framebuffer:
Results:
Speed: 71%
Original data rate: 1.60mbs
Bench data rate: 1.15mbs
Then using ATI Imageon (with a few jitters):
Speed: 197%
Original data rate: 1.60mbs
Bench data rate: 2.78mbs
And I gotta say apart from a few jitters and glitches the video when using ATI Imageon looked amazing like it was anti-aliased.
Can't wait to Coreplayer is optimised to work Samsung and ATI combo inside the Trinity!
Strange, I use tcpmp with ATI Imageon on almost all files... Works like a charm...
I use tcpmp with the ATI Imagion and it gives weird screen flickering (entire screen, not just video). After I switch forth and back between fullscreen and windowed mode a couple of times I can mostly get it to show the video. I do however not find the quality of the output particular good - rather bad actually and full of artifacts compared to the other modes
Exactly
What I am saying is when Coreplayer is optimised for ATI/Samsung combo it will work treat - hence the benchmark results. Showing a DRAMATIC performance increase.
This thread was designed to show what will come when software and or ROM's are worked on with the Trinity to use it's full potential.
core player
hey trinity ,
i m new in this forum
i need the core player ..will u plz send me the core player on [email protected] or on the same forum .....
bye
n take care
neeraj
niks2luv: http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/
Download it from there.
hi folks.. i have an O2 XDA Orbit 2, and the video playback sucks. I know about the HTC video driver "issue", and i've tried numerous players nd formats, but still get lag or synch problems with playback. At the moment i use windows media and divx player, but i wondered if any of you clever people had discovered the best conversion settings? I use pocket dvd studi /pqdvd to convert divx movies for my pda, with limited success.
Any ideas, or o i just accept my fone aint powerful enough to play video and buy something else?
cheers
Dave
try coreplayer with qtv enabled. This has the best playback. Oh and it also depends on the video settings of the ROM.
You could also search for gfx boost in these forums, that might help.