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Attached is an early alpha version of D9, a replacement for the built-in dialler. The main features are:
* Predictive text contact lookup
* Fast
* Big (thumb-friendly) buttons
* Free
Source code, a website and various other bits and pieces will be arriving in due course. In the meantime, however, please do feel free to try it out and give it a go.
I'm looking for feedback, so please let me know what you think!
I think it's a very good start. The application, as you said, takes 2-3 seconds to start the first time, but it's not a big problem. It is very quick for finding contacts. Buttons are big enough and the use of vibra very useful.
Here is some features that could be useful in my point of view:
- Possibility to have contacts sorted by the Outlook field 'View as' (or 'Save as' or 'Fill as'. Don't know what MS translated into 'Classer sous').
- Or if not possible, sorting (finding) contacts by company, name and firstname.
- Clear the previous search automatically when the application comes to the foreground.
- Option to switch to internal dialer once the contact has been dialed.
- Highlight the found string in the contact name (this is nice to have more than really useful).
Hope it helps. I look forward to next version.
Thanks for the great suggestions. I'll see what I can do!
Hi Mike,
I was looking for something with a big "exit" button like this one, so I did a try to it.
Unfortunely my XDA II gives me an error every time I tap the screen when the program and library was installed on SD card.
When installed on main memory it was fine making calls but when I got an incoming call the built-in dialler was the one coming up to the screen.
The main problem for me is that I don't want to play with the penn while driving after I got a call to close the dialler screen and I need it closed to see the TomTom Navigator.
Mostly of you drive a car, I do a motorbike, so it's not very funny to try to hit the small "X" with a small penn and big gloves.
I will look for a new version.
Jose Adell
Unfortunely my XDA II gives me an error every time I tap the screen when the program and library was installed on SD card.
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Hi Jose,
Sorry, I don't have an XDA II myself - I've only tested on my JAM. Could you tell me what the error message is?
Hi Mike
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Unfortunely my XDA II gives me an error every time I tap the screen when the program and library was installed on SD card.
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Hi Jose,
Sorry, I don't have an XDA II myself - I've only tested on my JAM. Could you tell me what the error message is?
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I will do tomorrow as I need to install it again on the SD card, but I think you don't need worry too much about it. It's typical to get some errors, like libraries (dll, ocx...) are not installed when it's done on SD cards.
But the main problem for me still remains, to get the incoming calls through your program. Currently is the buil-in the one comes up.
See you tomorrow,
Jose
Hi Mike
I did install again your program on the SD card and this is the error I get as far I tap the screen:
I suppose you don't understand Spanish so I'll do a translation:
"Unexpected error in D9.exe. Tap Salir (Exit) and reinitialize the program or tap Detalles (Details) to get more information".
If you tap Details then a new similar screen comes up and says:
"D9.exe
TypeLoadException"
As I said in my former message, all this doesn't happen if the program is installed in the Default folder.
Hope it helps.
Jose Adell
Hi Mike,
installed your program with no problems at all.
I have a Qtek 2020 with 1.72 WWE installed.
Works OK and finds the contacts correctly, by first or by last name.
It is a simple, thus easy to use and load program.
The only thing to point out is that I would prefer a slightly larger font on the number and name display, making it more 'readable' when on the move, e.g. car, where I will be more likelly to use it.
regards,
george
Hi Mike,
I have been waiting for an update to your great program. Is it possible that it could be mapped to the Send/End keys? Maybe you and Maimaich could get together on this?
I also agree with the previous posts to enlarge the contact name font. And I miss the speed dial option from your previous version (which does work on WM2003). Keep up the good work.
Feature wanted
It would be nice if I could navigate the buttons on the screen using the D-pad. With this, I can then write sms without the need to press on the screen and leave my messy fingerprints on it. :lol:
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Attached is an early alpha version of D9, a replacement for the built-in dialler.
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I'm looking for feedback, so please let me know what you think!
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Thank you for your job. It looks much better on my MDA Compact. I even think about using it in replacement of the built-in dialer would it dial DTMF tones in the line. This is the worst thing that stops me from using it :-(
As minor features I'd like to see more large and contrast phone number, no vibra but sound when touching screen buttons, ability to map this program to the MDA's buttons on-hook and off-hook. Also I guess this is not a good idea to press "Clear" to start the new history for the phone number.
Sorry for the mostly negative commens - I wish the program become a real replacement for the standard dialer.
Yes great app, but the lack of tones doesn't make it easy to manage the message box on the Orange answering machine.
international characters
i'm going to try this new version. i have done simple app for previous version of D9 that converts all international chars (codepage cp1250) to ascii and change order of firstname and lastname to lastname firstname. there is source code avalable so i can add this feature if not avail and i'll share it. i like so much previous version and i'll see this one tomorrow. i'm looking forward.
very nice tool ! I use it all the time now ! keep up the good work :lol:
Glad you like it!
I've made a webpage for D9, and also have posted up a version of the source code (it's actually slightly newer than the current binary, so think of it as a work in progress). The site can be found here:
http://www.pocketgamer.org/d9/
You can download the source code directly from here:
http://www.pocketgamer.org/d9/source.zip
Please feel free to use / adapt / improve the code as you wish! Note that I've used two external components, Poom .NET (for contacts operations) and OpenNET CF (dialling, vibrate functionality).
Any thoughts on adding the tones for voice mail operation ?
I'd love to! Does anyone know of any example code for generating the tones...?
The tones are called DTMF-tones:
A list with the frequencies can be found here:
http://www.zytrax.com/tech/telephony/dtmf_tones.htm
Made a new skin for D9 dialer
I Just made 1 skin for D9 dialer, in 2 variations, (look at dial and clear buttons).
Unzip to D9 directory, overwrite - yes.
hey cool app but how do i use the hax one on the right with the SMS,
ive been after a SMS app that did full screen vertical typing for a while.
will this one do it ?
Guys, this is just to fill a request on my website
It is used to send a Class 0 SMS. It's used in exactly the same way as VJSMSSender from VJPhoneTools.
Class 0 SMS, for those who don't know, is an SMS that is sent directly to the recipient's phone and will appear immediately on the screen, without requiring the recipient to go into the Inbox. Also, the SMS is not saved in the inbox, so there is no trace of it on the phone.
Great for illicit affairs!
Please use it responsibily, I don't know if there are any special rules about Class 0 SMS, but if there are any objections I'll remove it.
Check it out on my website
V
Hi Vijay,
another fine release.. )))
THANX mate.
How you do them all ??? ))))
BTW, why would you remove it from your website?? Flash SMS is perfectly legal AFAIK.
THANX
buzz
I'm sure it is legal, but it's quite scary how it works! I love it, I'll be freaking out all of my friends... oh, what friends :shock: too much programming!
How you doing Buzz. Been quite for a while... must mean good things on their way?
V
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I'm sure it is legal, but it's quite scary how it works! I love it, I'll be freaking out all of my friends... oh, what friends :shock: too much programming!
How you doing Buzz. Been quite for a while... must mean good things on their way?
V
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YEAH!
i'm totally overloaded in work... i ave absolutely no time for my stuff... (
...but i've got some GOOD news for tomorrow.. ))
buzz
Where is this program? I cant seem to find it in your site Vj...
I am curious of how it work :wink:
What about allowing a different sender ID? E.g. another number or text.
It's there : http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools:VJSMSSender_Class0 :wink:
Good things from Buzz.....
Is that combining the extrom to storage on the Universal?????
Cheers,
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Good things from Buzz.....
Is that combining the extrom to storage on the Universal?????
Cheers,
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hi Chris,
the good news is HERE
buzz
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What about allowing a different sender ID? E.g. another number or text.
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Yes that would be a great idea if it could be done.
vijay555 is this possible ?
TraumaTiger
Hum, how do i run this app? command line how? Can someone explain thanks.
q-biq:
download and install VJPhoneTools
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
and check out the page for instructions on how to use VJSMSSender.
Then, the class 0 prog works in exactly the same way as VJSMSSender.
Use GSFinder etc to make appropriate shortcuts, or use a today launcher like cLaunch etc.
TraumaTiger/Chatty: I think I could write an SMS spoofer, but I don't think it's wise. I will try to write it anyway for the fun of it (!) and tell you if it works...
V
oh koool. workin great, but do i need to change the shortcut evry time i need to send to a new phonenumber? takes to long time hehe..
and how have you created the icons on the top so i can send from there?
Once again..
VJ its possible to send to more than one recipient at the same time ?
thank you
q-biq: yep, the shortcut needs to be changed each time. It's more for use on a today screen: it was requested that you could eg send a msg to your wife on the way home with no key presses etc. VJSMS still requires you to press send, while VJSMSSender sends it straight off, so yes, it has to be manually configures each time.
More that that and it would have to work like a replacement for the inbox, and that's not what it's for (right now! perhaps in the future).
fcaeiro: no, I'm afraid VJSMSSender doesn't have a CC feature. I could try to look into it a some point, but I haven't thought about it right now...too busy coding other stuff! :shock:
V
It's definately possible to spoof the sender ID - Siemens S25 tools offered it already (if you remember that old handset).
can you explain howto spoof id??
SMS ID spoofing is easy enough in theory. I will try to write it, and if it works, I'll take feedback on whether it deserves releasing. But let me write it first
V
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SMS ID spoofing is easy enough in theory. I will try to write it, and if it works, I'll take feedback on whether it deserves releasing. But let me write it first
V
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Yaaa it good if our ID, phone number not appear...or with spoof ID...
waiting for ur progress Vijay555...
With Vodafone.se you can just put a -A- in the begining of the sms to hide your number.
hi guys,
i have the O2 sms plus working fine on my wizard, but lately i had a problem which prevented me from using my wizard, it has a speaker problem. now i'm using my jasjar and when i wanted to use o2 sms plus on it, it shows a very small font size because of the VGA screen.
i was wondering, is there a version of this app compatible with the vga screen on my jasjar?
i've done some search on the web but no luck in finding any.
thanks in advance for the help guys.
What is sms plus?
Yes it is possible, but as you said the font is small...
I could be way off track here, but is SMS Plus the o2 app that enahnces SMS communications via setting it up similar to a chat type setup. So all your SMSes are logged under the one contact ect. Im sure I read about it in the reviews of the o2 Atom.
In any case, can you send me or post the SMS Plus app
1. I would like to try it
2. I have had success in the past getting around a few customisation things, I might be able to fix this one up for you.
Cheers.
Well I found the app already.
Nice app indeed, but also indeedy about the text.
Resource Hacker can modify the font sizes etc, and can take it out of Hires Awareness mode, however, when resource hacker recompiles the exe file it looses its ability for it to run on the Pocket PC.
So essentially if there is a basic resource hacker for the pocket PC where in business, or perhaps a hex editor might do the trick since it might be less invasive.
Where did you found it?
i don't remember where i got it from, or if it's available in this forum, but anyway here it is.
When I do a reply to a sms I can't see what I'm trying to type. Does anyone else have this problem?
Fish
Yes thats the problem we all face. Small fonts and inproportionate dialogues in the application.
Like I said a resource hacker can fix it, so if you know of any WM5 or just PDA resource hackers, let me know and ill get back on it
The small font I didn't find too annoying. It's just not actually being able to reply to any texts because I couldn't tell if I was actually inputting anything. Hopefully the WM5 gods on the board will sort it out. I can't wait for a proper sms chat style app to be working. It's one of the things I miss from my Treo.
Fish
fishtastic said:
The small font I didn't find too annoying. It's just not actually being able to reply to any texts because I couldn't tell if I was actually inputting anything. Hopefully the WM5 gods on the board will sort it out. I can't wait for a proper sms chat style app to be working. It's one of the things I miss from my Treo.
Fish
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well, this happens because the original app was developed for the wizard which has a 320X240 screen. on the jasjar the screen as you know is bigger with a 640X480 (VGA).
that's why you don't see the text when replying to your sms.
hopfully someone can modify the font size in the app so it will be more compatible with the vga screen, i really like this app and when i got it on my kjam i didn't use the default messaging app at all and this was my default.
>BUMP<
please, someone get this to work on the XV6700... the only problem is that it wont recognize the phone as being on!!!! :?: :!:
Anybody get this to work on a 6700?
This now works on the 6700:
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70428
Anybody know how to make it the default text messenger? Currently, a new message results in a notification baloon, which, when you click "view" continues to open pocket outlook instead of 02sms plus. You then have to manually run 02sms plus to use it.
so does this app really work like d default SMS chat software on d treo650 & 600 where all incoming & outgoing messages r grouped per name(sender/receiver)?
ive tried it b4 on my htc univ in true/real VGA mode using ozVGA. i had no issues w/ font being too small. its just that d SMS chat grouping didnt work like that in d treos.
did palm/palmOS patent that or is it just hard 2 implement on WM/PPC phones?
Which one do you prefer? Or is better? Please state your reason
thanks!
For me, WM6.1 SMS threading wins this one. Unfortunately, not everyone can experience WM6.1 on their phones..
Reasons:
1. It's integrated/built-in the OS (not 3rd party).
2. You can click on the name of the sender and get options.
3. Automatic truncation of long threads (saves memory and avoids longer load times)
4. Flick and scroll support for TouchFLO devices.
CONS:
1. Simple GUI (but that could be a PRO too if you're minimalistic and wants everything simple and fast).
palm sms.. its quicker then 6.1 sms threading. its better. its better..and its better
my reason is native program for sms not memory usage.
I've only used palm and pocketcm but I honestly haven't liked either one, I don't like how pocketcm is integrated with the contacts, if it was just a standalone threaded sms then maybe I would like it more, expecially since it has themes and I didn't like the palm threaded for a couple small reasons, like even if the phone is on silent it still vibrates if the message is open, you have to scroll up after you went down to find someone to text, and a couple small reasons along those lines. But Im hoping to get 6.1 some day.
i believe there is a cab for wm6.1 sms ....along side of wm6.1 sms..does it work with the touch? since it has no keyboard...only touchscreen buttons...with palm sms...it blocks what you type..
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i believe there is a cab for wm6.1 sms ....along side of wm6.1 sms..does it work with the touch? since it has no keyboard...only touchscreen buttons...with palm sms...it blocks what you type..
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I have been searching for one for weeks! If you can find one, please post it here. There was even a thread about it, but nobody had the cab.
here you will find one!!!!
http://iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
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here you will find one!!!!
http://iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
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That one looks good, but like I said I want one where it is ONLY the threaded sms, no contacts or anything, and Yeah if there is a link to 6.1 threaded that would be awesome.
Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
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Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
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Don't think it's that easy, if not there would be one by now.
Either wait or upgrade to custom firmware 6.1 if your handset have one.
Has anybody had any problems installing the palm threaded cab? I tried it today and whilst it seemed to install ok after installing I could not find the app anywhere to use.
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Don't think it's that easy, if not there would be one by now.
Either wait or upgrade to custom firmware 6.1 if your handset have one.
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They extracted the Palm SMS from WM5/6. Can't see it being that much harder. Still, I don't think anyone's even tried. I've yet to hear someone give a reasonable excuse as to why it's not been done yet.
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Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
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I second that. I'd chip in like $5 or $10 to get it ripped. I just want integrated threaded SMS (not Palm SMS).
I'll try and find the files. I think that they are integrated into the shell though, so it might be difficult to install them as a cab.
palm messenger
i noticed key lag when usin the integrated threaded sms 6...maybe thats just my tytnii
bump please.
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They extracted the Palm SMS from WM5/6. Can't see it being that much harder. Still, I don't think anyone's even tried. I've yet to hear someone give a reasonable excuse as to why it's not been done yet.
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I've never posted here because I respect the hard work that goes on, by a bunch of very talented people, enough to do as the description of this board suggests and not post because I am not a 'developer or die hard techie'....
But.....
That post dude! Bang out of order.... If its that easy then please feel free to come up with your own solution, then you can trot back here and post all you want. Please dont stamp your feet and demand results with stuff like "I've yet to hear a reasonable EXCUSE" and remember that most of these guys are doing this for pocket money at the most and totally free at the least.
If I've miss-interpreted what you've said and you are a developer then accept my apologies but I know which horse my money's on!
So how do you guys like the VITO SMS-Chat anyways? I have the 6.1 threaded SMS and I wanna see if the SMS-Chat will be better (or at least flashier)
Basically I am looking for some software which, on receipt of an SMS will initiate an outbound call to a number in the contact list on the phone.
something along the lines of :-
SMS received from 1-555-5555 containing the word CALLBACK and a password.
Phone then dials 1-555-4444 or any specific contact as defined in its config
it doesn't have to use the contact list but must be triggerable remotely.
Target device is a HTC Hermes. and possibly a StarTrk
The program doesn't need to be stealthy, it's to initiate the call with full permission from the owner but without intervention.
Partly it's for my grandfather, if I give him a Startrk then I want to be able to activate a call remotely if I get notified that he has triggered his medicalert system, so I can try to see if he is ok without him having to answer a call.
I googled, and found nothing, I'm hoping someone here can either write an app that can do what I need, or suggest a product that will enable me to do this.
Auto answer is too generic, I want it to be just for myself and not all callers, and the password is because there may be times I just want to send a generic SMS
Sounds like you are talking about an SMS Callback trigger, though I have never heard of a mobile based one.
I always seem to want the impossible or the unwritten maybe it's time one was written?
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I always seem to want the impossible or the unwritten maybe it's time one was written?
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just unwritten, it's not impossible
pretty easy actually
i'll try to throw some together this week if/when I have the time
try this
Just place it on the phone and edit the config.ini if needed default settings are:
trigger = CALLBACK
password = pass
I tested this on my TyTn2, and it seems to do what you wanted, the program will activate the speaker when calling (can be changed in the config.ini)
this way if your grandfather cannot reach the phone he still be able to talk..
But test it before use, I'm not sure how sensitive the mic of the phone is.
I do like the idea so I'll probably add some more functionality
- auto pickup on call from fixed number
- status
- call/sms log
Let me know what you think.
PS. this was created for a touch screen device not a smart phone...
also I can not be held responsible for damages, phone bills etc.
but that goes without saying ..right
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tested by sending an SMS to myself, the program then called my number, but when i tried with a friends phone it didn't work
let me know if it works for you (if you have 2 phones)
also make sure if the number you send it from is in your phonebook or not (could be the issue)
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that is the issue, working on it
Issue solved
now I need to figure out how to replace the attachment
I'll add it in a new post
I also believe SKSchema can do this in watch mode. Actually SKSchema can do lots of cool things in watch mode.
new version attached
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build a cab, also added apptodate support
is it just me or does it seem to autodial the number that sent the SMS?
one addition would be the facility to set the option that if number X sent the SMS then callback to number Y
example - if I am in the US I will have the number 1-555-1234 but my grandfather is in the UK - +44-555-5555
I run a voip line with a UK DID number such as +44-555-6666 so when the SMS is received from 1-555-1234 the return call goes to the +44-555-6666 instead of the US Cellphone (cost reasons lol, UK landline free, international call of any length = US national debt)
Here is a SMS Trigger I built, do not know if that satisfy you.
Check rk-SMSSwitch under my signature.
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is it just me or does it seem to autodial the number that sent the SMS?
one addition would be the facility to set the option that if number X sent the SMS then callback to number Y
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yes you are right, don't know how i could have overlooked that
I'll fix this in the next version
any other requests?
:-D
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Program updated, you should be able to run apptodate to get the new version
don't you love just that program
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any other requests?
:-D
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Program updated, you should be able to run apptodate to get the new version
don't you love just that program
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Will there be a Smartphone version of this app that I could run on my QTek 8500 (StrTrk) ?
Thanks
timwb said:
Will there be a Smartphone version of this app that I could run on my QTek 8500 (StrTrk) ?
Thanks
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Sorry, i just noticed this reply
To be honest i wasn't planning on creating one, but i could give it a shot
the biggest problem is i don't have a Smartphone to test it on..
I'm sure you could probably find a few testers in the forums, there's quite a lot of people on here!
I'll obviously be willing to test anything you are able to come up with. I don't know where you are located mr gee but on ebay UK you can buy an old Orange spv c500 (HTC Typhoon)or c600 (HTC Tornado I think) really cheap now. There are also WM6 roms available for these devices on this site somewhere.
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I'm sure you could probably find a few testers in the forums, there's quite a lot of people on here!
I'll obviously be willing to test anything you are able to come up with. I don't know where you are located mr gee but on ebay UK you can buy an old Orange spv c500 (HTC Typhoon)or c600 (HTC Tornado I think) really cheap now. There are also WM6 roms available for these devices on this site somewhere.
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I already checked eBay, and there might be some good ones but I don't want to overpay
I'll keep it in mind
Attached is the same program but compiled for a smartphone, I'm not sure if it will work, I remembered I have an emulator for smartphone installed, but I received an error message when running the exe.., I think because the CF.NET wasn't installed..
let me know
I tried it on my QTek 8500. The exe ran but all I got was a window with a blue background and the words "SMS2Call v. 0.03" in black.
No buttons to press or anything, had to use Task Manager to exit it. Which id did without complaint. Thanks for trying, some work may be needed I think
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I tried it on my QTek 8500. The exe ran but all I got was a window with a blue background and the words "SMS2Call v. 0.03" in black.
No buttons to press or anything, had to use Task Manager to exit it. Which id did without complaint. Thanks for trying, some work may be needed I think
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Currently that is the program
Could you try to edit the ini file?
in case you have 2 phones, add the number from the 2nd phone in the file
save and run the program
send an sms from the 2nd phone with the passcode mentioned in the ini file
your 1st phone should call this number after the SMS receipt
I know the program doesn't look like much but i might fix this in the future
when i do i'll also look at the exit button.
the reason i didn't was because the application was for an older person,
this person could be playing around with the phone accidentally closing the program ...
I looked in the .ini file and then tried sending a text to the phone containing the words CALLBACK PASS. I tried this with/without a space, up and lower case, with the program in the background or on screen but it didn't do anything. Do I have to put a shortcut in the Startup folder or something? Or am I not formatting the text message properly? The sending phone number is in the contacts list if that makes a difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Could you just not set his phone to auto answer ? - that way you can call him any time.
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I looked in the .ini file and then tried sending a text to the phone containing the words CALLBACK PASS. I tried this with/without a space, up and lower case, with the program in the background or on screen but it didn't do anything. Do I have to put a shortcut in the Startup folder or something? Or am I not formatting the text message properly? The sending phone number is in the contacts list if that makes a difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks
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not really, assuming it works maybe it has to do with the formatting,
Callback should be in capitals and pass in lower letters.
when I tested this with my TYTN2 it worked the way it should.
also did you enter the default number ? e.g. the number that will be called?
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Could you just not set his phone to auto answer ? - that way you can call him any time.
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Gee why didn't I think of that...
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Seriously have you read the thread?
the topic starter didn't want it this way for several reasons...
Default number and closed flip
I didn't enter a default number because I want it to respond to any number that sends the text. I deleted the DefaultNumber line from the config and it worked, to a point. The phone I'm running it on is a Qtek 8500/HTC StrTrk, which for those who don't know, is a flip phone. My problem is this, if the phone is closed when the text is received the call is made but cut off immediately because the phone is set to hang up calls on closing. Nowhere can I find a setting to stop this from happening, anybody have any ideas?