Which one do you prefer? Or is better? Please state your reason
thanks!
For me, WM6.1 SMS threading wins this one. Unfortunately, not everyone can experience WM6.1 on their phones..
Reasons:
1. It's integrated/built-in the OS (not 3rd party).
2. You can click on the name of the sender and get options.
3. Automatic truncation of long threads (saves memory and avoids longer load times)
4. Flick and scroll support for TouchFLO devices.
CONS:
1. Simple GUI (but that could be a PRO too if you're minimalistic and wants everything simple and fast).
palm sms.. its quicker then 6.1 sms threading. its better. its better..and its better
my reason is native program for sms not memory usage.
I've only used palm and pocketcm but I honestly haven't liked either one, I don't like how pocketcm is integrated with the contacts, if it was just a standalone threaded sms then maybe I would like it more, expecially since it has themes and I didn't like the palm threaded for a couple small reasons, like even if the phone is on silent it still vibrates if the message is open, you have to scroll up after you went down to find someone to text, and a couple small reasons along those lines. But Im hoping to get 6.1 some day.
i believe there is a cab for wm6.1 sms ....along side of wm6.1 sms..does it work with the touch? since it has no keyboard...only touchscreen buttons...with palm sms...it blocks what you type..
contentryder said:
i believe there is a cab for wm6.1 sms ....along side of wm6.1 sms..does it work with the touch? since it has no keyboard...only touchscreen buttons...with palm sms...it blocks what you type..
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I have been searching for one for weeks! If you can find one, please post it here. There was even a thread about it, but nobody had the cab.
here you will find one!!!!
http://iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
oddball1 said:
here you will find one!!!!
http://iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
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That one looks good, but like I said I want one where it is ONLY the threaded sms, no contacts or anything, and Yeah if there is a link to 6.1 threaded that would be awesome.
Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
Charles: said:
Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
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Don't think it's that easy, if not there would be one by now.
Either wait or upgrade to custom firmware 6.1 if your handset have one.
Has anybody had any problems installing the palm threaded cab? I tried it today and whilst it seemed to install ok after installing I could not find the app anywhere to use.
ekin101 said:
Don't think it's that easy, if not there would be one by now.
Either wait or upgrade to custom firmware 6.1 if your handset have one.
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They extracted the Palm SMS from WM5/6. Can't see it being that much harder. Still, I don't think anyone's even tried. I've yet to hear someone give a reasonable excuse as to why it's not been done yet.
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Why is it so hard for someone to extract the 6.1 threaded msg app?? I'll pay for it...someone just do it.
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I second that. I'd chip in like $5 or $10 to get it ripped. I just want integrated threaded SMS (not Palm SMS).
I'll try and find the files. I think that they are integrated into the shell though, so it might be difficult to install them as a cab.
palm messenger
i noticed key lag when usin the integrated threaded sms 6...maybe thats just my tytnii
bump please.
Charles: said:
They extracted the Palm SMS from WM5/6. Can't see it being that much harder. Still, I don't think anyone's even tried. I've yet to hear someone give a reasonable excuse as to why it's not been done yet.
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I've never posted here because I respect the hard work that goes on, by a bunch of very talented people, enough to do as the description of this board suggests and not post because I am not a 'developer or die hard techie'....
But.....
That post dude! Bang out of order.... If its that easy then please feel free to come up with your own solution, then you can trot back here and post all you want. Please dont stamp your feet and demand results with stuff like "I've yet to hear a reasonable EXCUSE" and remember that most of these guys are doing this for pocket money at the most and totally free at the least.
If I've miss-interpreted what you've said and you are a developer then accept my apologies but I know which horse my money's on!
So how do you guys like the VITO SMS-Chat anyways? I have the 6.1 threaded SMS and I wanna see if the SMS-Chat will be better (or at least flashier)
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Hi!
Sorry if this is not the right sub forum. I am trying to look for a program for my trinity wm 6 that can transform our sms system to a chat style ( i.e. iphone like) I have tried pocketcm and threader program.. but they cannot replace the quickness and reliability of the native windows sms program.. can anyone point me to the right direction? thanks before...
SMS Chat Style
Hi,
I use the program shogunmark rip from a treo (I think).
Works great.
Is this any different or better than Codyppc's threaded SMS?
Search on here for IMSMS. You will be amazed what that can do.
WB
IMSMS looks very snazzy. I may have to give that a try! Thanks for the heads up!!
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Is this any different or better than Codyppc's threaded SMS?
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codyppc's doesn't work reliably. Don't know about this one but it probably has the same problems since they were ripped from the same device and hacked to WM6.
Hmm, I had immediate issues with IMSMS and subsequently went back to Codyppc's. Perhaps I should mess around with IMSMS some more, but I really haven't had an issue with Codyppc's app.
Had problem with IMSMS...cannot receive sms at all.
wm6 threaded is better, buthas small bug. When you are typing a message, you cannot see what you are writting, because the keypad cover it up.
Where I can find Codyppc's threaded SMS?
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=139379
Hi guys.. have tried all the apps above and i find that threaded is actually really good! BUT one thing that's really annoying and almost makes it unussable is that using the trinity when u write a msg in the chat window.. the line's get completely covered with the SIP and you don't know what you're writing... is there a way to hack this program? or has someone did it already? i went back using pocketcm's sms and whenever i send a msg.. have to exit out of pocketcm and back to to windows messaging for the msg to be delivered.. o you guys have the same problems with the two apps? i can't believe that our wm devices can't do iphone style sms without a glitch..
I encountered the same probelm with you bluesky3012......now I just using standard message application.
In personal, I like palm messaging so much...but as bluesky3012' said...it has bug
It isn't a "bug". That is the way it works. It wasnt designed for our phones. It is a RIP from the PALM phone and the Palm phones have a different display method than ours.
so there's no way of having a threaded sms with no glitch in our trinity? so sad.. i'm sticking to pocketcm for now but it tooks up almost 5mb of memory if i just minimize the apps..
grizzley said:
It isn't a "bug". That is the way it works. It wasnt designed for our phones. It is a RIP from the PALM phone and the Palm phones have a different display method than ours.
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Actually, it has lots of other bugs. So unreliable when sending and receiving.
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It isn't a "bug". That is the way it works. It wasnt designed for our phones. It is a RIP from the PALM phone and the Palm phones have a different display method than ours.
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I dont recall the text field being covered when I used my Mogul and wanted to send a quick message without using the slide out keyboard.
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Actually, it has lots of other bugs. So unreliable when sending and receiving.
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I only had one issue using the threaded sms app on a device it was built for (700wx) and that was with duplicate messages being sent out. A fix was released, but it wasn't directly related to the threaded sms application.
Now that it has been ported to other WM5/WM6 devices, some have encountered issues which isn't surprising considering how much hacking Palm did with the OS in the Treos.
I use the WM6 version pulled from a WM6 Treo 750 on my Mogul and I don't personally have any issues with it. I do know that others do though.
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I use the WM6 version pulled from a WM6 Treo 750 on my Mogul and I don't personally have any issues with it. I do know that others do though.
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Where can I get the version you are running?
TheJeet said:
Hey you should try out Vito SMS chat....it quite a nice program...but...it saves all your SMSs into a diffrent folder....but besides that....it quite nice...best app i'v found for SMS....go try....BUT DONT YOU DARE BUY IT ! just try it out from vito tech,if you like it...just try to find a cracked version...there are surely alot....so don't worry !
if you bought it....i feel sad for you...$19.90 if im not mistaken...not worth it....
anyways...good luck...
just incase you didnt find any....i have it here...but this is the older version...newer one is much better...
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WAREZ
Remove it now!
TheJeet said:
Hey you should try out Vito SMS chat....it quite a nice program...but...it saves all your SMSs into a diffrent folder....but besides that....it quite nice...best app i'v found for SMS....go try....BUT DONT YOU DARE BUY IT ! just try it out from vito tech,if you like it...just try to find a cracked version...there are surely alot....so don't worry !
if you bought it....i feel sad for you...$19.90 if im not mistaken...not worth it....
anyways...good luck...
just incase you didnt find any....i have it here...but this is the older version...newer one is much better...
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Might wanna remove your attachment. XDA has a zero tolerance policy on WAREZ and it will get you banned real fast...
Here is a great cab I used back when I was on wm6.
It was developed by Triangle powers before they got shut down( or whatever happened to them).
Enjoy,
dwizzy130
hey just wanted to know if there is a palm sms threader for the touch? or does the one for the titan work?
There is one, search for: shogunmark_wm6_threaded
It works great
Here is the link, to save you the search time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=Threaded+SMS
yea it does work pretty good but i think thats the one i had on the titan wasnt sure if it was gonna work on the touch thanks alot bro
hey i dont know if your having this problem but it doesnt notify me when i get a text like it tells me on the screen i got one but it doesnt make any sounds... is there a fix for this?
I use ringo, and it works fine for me, the volume is up i'm assuming?
if you didn't know this already, you have to specifically set a sound for the Palm Messaging App. try Start->Settings->Sounds & Notifications->Notifications Tab, scroll and select "Messaging: New Message (Palm)" and then select the sound you want to play when a text message received via the Palm app.
I used this same app on my Wizard way back and loved it. I couldn't live without it once I tried it. Last I heard it is supposed to be compatible with ALL WM6 devices so it should work fine with the Touch.
yea it works now i had to pick a sound for it lol i feel stupid now but now the other problem is that when i bring up the touch keyboard with the t9 it doesnt show me the words i could choose from... they stay at the bottom so i have to bring the keyboard up and down all the time... is there a way to fix that?
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yea it works now i had to pick a sound for it lol i feel stupid now but now the other problem is that when i bring up the touch keyboard with the t9 it doesnt show me the words i could choose from... they stay at the bottom so i have to bring the keyboard up and down all the time... is there a way to fix that?
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I don't think so, I wish there was.... I use the Full Screen Keyboard, once you start sending messages, you'll get used to not seeing the words....
i hope that we can custom the Keyboard to go up an 1 inch so we can see what we doing.
Thats what i asked in another thread...a automatic resize, like what it does in pocket ie, its not a big deal to me anymore, i'm used to it...
When getting rid of this app. It takes away the orginal Text Messages. Anyway to bring them back with out backing up phone?
Sms Thread
Guys, you should do a search for pocketCM. Is is really good and do a lot more than what you are looking for.
Well I have tried that. But cant seem to get it to work corectly on my HTC VOUGE
Ny only complaint to the threaded sms is not seeing what im typing. Loved it on my mogul though
MMS..does it work????
hey guys,
ive asked this in other threads but no reply. can someone tell me if this app allows you to use mms. according to the other threads, everybody is having problems sending and receiving mms. can we use this app solely for the threaded sms part and THEN USE ppcgeeks mms app. will that solve the trick??? plz let me know. i have a sprint touch. thanks alot guys!
currently using pocketcm v.18 also. is there any incompatiblity issues if use this threaded app as well????
i was just about to ask this, i need to find a solution to this!
Why the hell has no one made a touch SMS program?
I HATE the one that comes with pocket PC with a passion.
I agree with you a million percent. I've used vito sms and pocketcm but they both annoy me...slow and inconvenient (in my opinion. I know there are a lot of happy pocketcm users )
Anyway, I'd be willing to pay for a skinnable sms app if it was exactly the same as the existing one (ie: has got the same menu..sms/mms, windows live, outlook etc, but just looks a LOT nicer)...so if there's anyone out there
Honestly, i'd pay too, and i haven't paid for any of my software for years.
as much as everyone will hate me for saying it. Id love to just see icontact with there version of threaded sms. not a huge fan pocketCM for some reason. but atleast they have threaded sms
Yup, people ar going to "hate" you for it. LOL
The big plus for iContact is its speed for the basic duties of looking people up and dialling them. It is a phone in the first instance.
I have both installed and use both depending on what i am looking for.
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Yup, people ar going to "hate" you for it. LOL
The big plus for iContact is its speed for the basic duties of looking people up and dialling them. It is a phone in the first instance.
I have both installed and use both depending on what i am looking for.
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haha! yea. me too. I even created a CM theme that looks identical to icontact. it's a genius program.
I´ve found IContact V.0.5, and I'm using since that. The must is that with only two strokes I can match a contact and make a phone call, or iniciate one SMS, this is in my opinions the basic concept, and remain like this.
If somebody want to put in one application, contacts, sms, mme, phone call, outlook, opera, netfront, picsel, wifi, gprs, and ..... they are free, but don't complain about the monster.
PCM with all those screens and options to do this and that, might real good, no complains, but too much ways to reach a simple thing, find one contact
One more thing, what's the ideia about a finger friendly SMS app. ?
Menu ? Keyboard ?
Pisca said:
I´ve found IContact V.0.5, and I'm using since that. The must is that with only two strokes I can match a contact and make a phone call, or iniciate one SMS, this is in my opinions the basic concept, and remain like this.
If somebody want to put in one application, contacts, sms, mme, phone call, outlook, opera, netfront, picsel, wifi, gprs, and ..... they are free, but don't complain about the monster.
PCM with all those screens and options to do this and that, might real good, no complains, but too much ways to reach a simple thing, find one contact
One more thing, what's the ideia about a finger friendly SMS app. ?
Menu ? Keyboard ?
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Finger friendly, maybe not - it's finger friendly already I guess, but there's a loooong way to go appearance-wise. Something like iContact but for sms (a separate app) would be perfect. That way the styles match, and if it were to have the same qualities as iContact would be fast, simple, customisable and very convenient.
The windows one isn't very finger friendly.
Something like the iPhone's SMS program.
Hi all,
I made a cab from the 2009-12-15 Leo SMS fix (http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=812&news_id=407), so this can be installed on other devices with Sense 2.5..
I'm on a sense 2.1 rom currently, so can't test it...So be careful, it might break ur SMS function, test with your own risk and always backup (I guess the new 2.02 package has the update already or even a better fix)..
happy new year!!
George
New SMS Fix Cab added (dated 2010-01-14):
http://www.mediafire.com/file/wodzbyyzdmy/SMS_LEO08007.cab
wath exactly it fixes?
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yes...what exactly it fixes??
Is this to fix the slow Messaging with Leo Roms ??
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Is this to fix the slow Messaging with Leo Roms ??
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i'm not sure what it fixes... but it doesn't seem to fix the annoying slow messaging thingy... I was just coverting the .exe which can only be installed on HD2 to a cab that can be installed on every device..
I have heard that the htc messaging in the 2.02 pack is fast, anyone tried it?
what is your point in creating a thread with a cab entitled "sms fix" and you are
not sure what it does? shouldn't you have tested it first and shared to us what
exactly it can help?
no offense, but i agree with jigners... hopefully the OP has had time to test it by now!
jigners said:
what is your point in creating a thread with a cab entitled "sms fix" and you are
not sure what it does? shouldn't you have tested it first and shared to us what
exactly it can help?
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Am I the only one in this thread that uses the actual HTC site? or do people just like to hijack threads and flame people who are doing what they can to help the community... As I remember no one else knew what the Leo Camera Fix did either, but it proved useful, at least for some.
HTC Website said:
Update for HTC HD2 – SMS Function Update
This update for HTC HD2 messaging lets you reach out to your friends and family with instant notifications. Keeping in touch has always been very important, and this update delivers just that: fast and reliable SMS messaging.
Date : 2009-12-15
Category : Update
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Looks to me like HTC don't really say what the fix "fixes" but THANKS for creating the CAB, i'll have a look and see what it effects if anything. If it's worth it I'll cook it in for my next flash
Okay, have just installed the CAB.
So far no noticable difference when sending / recieving SMS.
I'm using my own custom ROM, using WinMo 6.5 28014, and most of the packages from Leo 1.48.
Thanks again for the CAB anyway.
Hi guys,
be easy, read the link:
"this update delivers just that: fast and reliable SMS messaging."
these files have been updated:
Messaging.dll
Messaging_Client.exe
MessagingClientDll.dll
MessagingNotification.dll
MessagingRes.dll
MessagingService.dll
mms.dll
MsgSettingDll.dll
PushClient.exe
DlgHelper.exe
GetHtcMmsLimitDll.dll
HtcMailAccount.dll
JSRHandler.dll
MessageStore.dll
@Jigners
When the fix first came out, I tried it but it won't install on hd. and now I learned how to create the cab, so I just made it. I need to have my phone switched on all day right now and I'm with a sense 2.1 ROM, so can't test it, but I thought someone with a lower leo build may want to try it...
yes, you are right..sorry for let you down.. I won't do it next time.
@Swarvey&PooPoo
Sorry for wasting your time... thanks for your kind words
also gonna give it a go
still on a energy rom of 23-09 whit m2.51919
will report back later
ps gonna restore over 800 messages to test it to the ultimate
well tested it and it works sort off
i can type directly but the message im replying to isnt shown
so its kinda a fix
hi,
have you tried restoring tons of messages to see if the slowness has been somehow fixed ? Last time I've tried with 2.5 the phone almost got stuck (with about 600 messages)
miniterror said:
also gonna give it a go
still on a energy rom of 23-09 whit m2.51919
will report back later
ps gonna restore over 800 messages to test it to the ultimate
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well tested it and it works sort off
i can type directly but the message im replying to isnt shown
so its kinda a fix
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hi,
have you tried restoring tons of messages to see if the slowness has been somehow fixed ? Last time I've tried with 2.5 the phone almost got stuck (with about 600 messages)
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I sort of think the 2 posts directly above your post answers that question don't they
thanks, I could read those, but I'd like a bit more of an explanation:
you installed the fix and restored tons of sms, what I'd like to know is this:
- adding a contact with a lot of sms history to favourites slows down the phone ?
- opening such contact slows down everything ?
- I understand there is no sms history shown in the manila contact at all ? actually that point isn't very clear to me. where is that the original message is not shown ?
what I'd like to know, if you have got time to explain it to me, is what actually the fix changes, and how fast it makes opening sms history on a contact.
One last minor point is that a big sms history had most sms cut to one or two lines.
Regards
Andy
andycted said:
thanks, I could read those, but I'd like a bit more of an explanation:
you installed the fix and restored tons of sms, what I'd like to know is this:
- adding a contact with a lot of sms history to favourites slows down the phone ?
- opening such contact slows down everything ?
- I understand there is no sms history shown in the manila contact at all ? actually that point isn't very clear to me. where is that the original message is not shown ?
what I'd like to know, if you have got time to explain it to me, is what actually the fix changes, and how fast it makes opening sms history on a contact.
One last minor point is that a big sms history had most sms cut to one or two lines.
Regards
Andy
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well for from the contact page i cannot tell you as i have flashed my phone a couple of times afterwords(im trying to build my own)
for the sms not shown
when i get a new message i go the message tab and click the sms
there im supposed to see the threaded conversation between the person im replying to
the whole conversation doesnt load(waited about 3 min)
but i can directly type a reply to the text message whitout a lag
hope this sorts of that question
best regards
miniterror
here is a fix for the slow sunny animation....
I have tested this, it works
does it work for 2.1 manila?
and come on people! just thank this guy for even bothering to create a cab and sharing it in this community.
bertrandno7 said:
does it work for 2.1 manila?
and come on people! just thank this guy for even bothering to create a cab and sharing it in this community.
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no, the sms fix is only for Leo package lower than 1.49...and the weather fix is for any sense 2.5.. I think 2.1 manila does not need any fix, both sunny animation and sms are working ok in 2.1 manila
I've just flashed the latest Energy ROM onto my phone from one that was about 6 months old. All is good apart from one thing - HTC Messaging.
Seems to be a common complaint that a lot of people don't like this, but I haven't found a solution.
In the old Energy ROM I was able to run a cab that disabled HTC Messaging, but that doesn't seem to work with this version.
Can it be disabled? Oddly, at the top of his thread NRGZ28 states that HTC messaging is turned off for speed???
Can anyone help please??
Can anyone help?
try this thread:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
My understanding is that the Energy rom isn't using the HTC Messenger anymore. It uses a skinned version of something else.
pretty sure the skinned messaging client in the nrg roms can be disabled somewhere in messaging settings. My experience has been that htc sms client and the new skinned one are way too laggy to be used if you text more than once or twice a day. I have the notification bar on my hometab linked to wm messaging, and no lag and its lots better. Seems like the other sms clients dont index the messages efficiently or something. Its such a shame that so nice a phone is so weak in texting, not everybody is willing to go thru all the trial and error just to settle upon texting that is still imperfect. Big part of why wm is a dying os. People spend big bucks on a phone, they expect it to just work right outta the box, especially something so basic as texting.
Huthus said:
try this thread:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
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Thanks for the suggesting, but I've tried and it doesn't work. As suggested below it seems that the NRG rom doesn't use the HTC messaging
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pretty sure the skinned messaging client in the nrg roms can be disabled somewhere in messaging settings. My experience has been that htc sms client and the new skinned one are way too laggy to be used if you text more than once or twice a day. I have the notification bar on my hometab linked to wm messaging, and no lag and its lots better. Seems like the other sms clients dont index the messages efficiently or something. Its such a shame that so nice a phone is so weak in texting, not everybody is willing to go thru all the trial and error just to settle upon texting that is still imperfect. Big part of why wm is a dying os. People spend big bucks on a phone, they expect it to just work right outta the box, especially something so basic as texting.
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Can you explain how you have linked to the wm messaging? This might do what I want.
this might help:
enable wm messenger (by disabling the HTC one), install those 3 .cabs:
3 cabs - first post
and also arcsoft mms:
arcsoft
soft reset
Sorry, I looked and it is the bubble text one, just with the bubbles disabled. Thats the one that I have experienced the least typing lag with out of all I've tried though. I have it linked to the notification bar by cht editor. Having it like that saves me the ram of having to use the sense messaging tab, which would cause my phone to lag and then hang whenever I sent/recieved too many texts too fast. Tried several versions of htc messaging, and they all lagged quite a bit too. It makes me mad to think all the effort n time spent just to get 'ok' texting on my phone. There should be a windows mobile version of android's handcent sms app. It has everything you could ask for as far as messaging goes, and doesnt lag or suck at all. I have had piece of crap phones that handled texting better than windows mobile. How could microsoft blow such a basic function of phones as text messaging so badly?
Why do you guys not flash a rom which has htc messaging disabled?
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Why do you guys not flash a rom which has htc messaging disabled?
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I did apparently, but it has some other SMS app. I like the rest of the ROM though.
Just want to know how to get at and run the default WM SMS app.
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Why do you guys not flash a rom which has htc messaging disabled?
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I know in my case I prefer the regular windows messenger. Unfortunately I also like the energy rom.
Was anyone able to find a solution to this?
avacedani said:
Was anyone able to find a solution to this?
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Try this.
Might need a little tweaking to change font sizes, and such, but I like it better than the WM messaging client. There's plenty of folks to help with the tweaks on the forum.
Also, Microsoft MyPhone works really well for managing text messages. It stores your messages online and allows easy syncing (very handy after new ROM flashes). It, also, allows you to archive older messages so they aren't stored on your phone, which makes ALL messaging apps run much faster.
Hope it helps...