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I just purchased the Fortuna Clip_On Bluetooth Reciever for my XDAII. First install went fine, I set it all up and used it walking home from the station. The TomTom software worked faultlessly and was quick to use. When I got home I closed TomTom, turned off the GPS and put the XDAII on the charger. In the morning I opened TomTom to setup a trip to France. When I opened TomTom it was VERY slow. It took about 8mins to open the application and navigating around the software was impossible. It did not crash or give me any errors it was just real slow. I uninstalled the application and reinstalled it. This seemed to solve the situation temporarily and off I set on my journey. After the first leg of my Journey I turned it off whilst on the Ferry. Next time I turned it on it was back to snails pace and so rendered it useless for the rest of my journey.
Any ideas whats going on? Is this a common problem?
WiZeR said:
I just purchased the Fortuna Clip_On Bluetooth Reciever for my XDAII. First install went fine, I set it all up and used it walking home from the station. The TomTom software worked faultlessly and was quick to use. When I got home I closed TomTom, turned off the GPS and put the XDAII on the charger. In the morning I opened TomTom to setup a trip to France. When I opened TomTom it was VERY slow. It took about 8mins to open the application and navigating around the software was impossible. It did not crash or give me any errors it was just real slow. I uninstalled the application and reinstalled it. This seemed to solve the situation temporarily and off I set on my journey. After the first leg of my Journey I turned it off whilst on the Ferry. Next time I turned it on it was back to snails pace and so rendered it useless for the rest of my journey.
Any ideas whats going on? Is this a common problem?
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What type of card? sd/mmc?
what version xda roms
what other apps. e.g. GPRS mon is known to cause problems sometimes.
try tomtom 3, it's much faster / more reliable.
I'm using xda2(1.6) + sd +cf, tomtom 3.01 + fortuna gps without problems.
you need GPS driver version 2.09!!!
I had the same problem cause I was using driver version 2.00, then I moved to v2.09 and it worked perfectly.
Ciao :wink:
I tried last week TomTom3 + i-mate+ Royaltek BT GPS, I drove in the UK. Everything worked very good all the time.
I am using all the latest ROMS, with Bluetooth tools.
How can I check my BT driver version?
It is a 256 SD card (Viking Interworks)
Rom Version: 1.60.00WWE
ROM Date: 12/03/03
Radio Version: 1.10.00
Protocol Version: 1.337.18
ExtROM Version: 1.60.50
Not much else is installed, I am using 1-calc and the check/clear notifications app. Thats it
Where do I get the updated GPS Driver?
give me your email via pvt msg and I will send to you, ok?
I tried to post it in the forum, but no way.....
its ok i found it on pocketgps. However it has not solved the problem. I installed the GPS update, cold booted and the same problem exists
Any other ideas?
what i do not understand is why it would work perfectly for about 2 hours then just slow right down like this.
Have you set GPS connections to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
I have these settings in v2.09 GPS and it work perfectly with fortuna clip-on...
I repeat that I had the same identical problem as you have and I solved with 2.09 driver and the settings you see above...
good luck
oops, actually i just noticed its 2.07 i updated to.
How big is the 2.09 update?
I found the 2.09 update on the web, but its not solved anything
after the update it is still really slow
Have you set GPS connections to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
I have these settings in v2.09 GPS and it work perfectly with fortuna clip-on...
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?????????????????? WHAT ABOUT YOUR SETTINGS ??????????????
GPS Connections? I'm not sure what you mean by this?
Under TomTom GPS I have it set to:
SiRF 38400
COM5
I have it unticked at the moment as I am just trying to get it working properly. The PDA Slider is set to Zzz and sound is on.
Under TomTom GPS I have it set to:
SiRF 38400
COM5
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change to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
and see what happen... 99% you solve with this settings cause it was the same for me. TRY these settings, let fortuna and XDA2 communicate and that's it!
I don't want fortuna and xda2 to communicate. I want to be able to use create routes without the gps reciever connected. At the moment it takes about 5mins for TomTom to just launch.
i tried these settings and it is still slow, i timed 6mins to launch the application and a further 1min to open the menu.
what other apps?
Wizer,
What other apps do you have?
Have you tried hard reset + reinstall ? First backup with say sprite backup.
I think this is driver related. Uninstall tomtom then reinstall with the latest gps drivers, I am not sure you should be selecting sirf 38400 either.
i tried installing from clean install and i tried with the latest GPS drivers. Nothing solved it. In the end I have had to install tomtom3 which has strangely solved the problem for now. All I have to do now is find the Great Britain maps
Hi there guys, its been a while since posting but I have some great news regarding using multiple bluetooth devices in the car.
A few weeks ago I purchased a Navman 4410 GPS unit for my XDAII. With the new "72" rom the Navman worked perfectly with my XDAII straight out of the box over bluetooth.
Today I installed a Sony Ericsson HBC-30 bluetooth hands free carkit (Which also worked perfectly out of the box). I was interested to know if I could have the GPS unit operating and have the handsfree carkit working at the same time.
I was simply sitting in the carpark, with the GPS connected and onscreen, then I used my other phone to call my XDAII... the call came up on screen (interrupting the GPS screen) I pressed the "answer" button on the Sony Ericsson handsfree kit, and the call came through perfectly!
Once finished with the call I pressed the "hangup" button on the handsfree kit, and then a few quick taps on the screen returned me to the GPS navigation screen.
Certainly not perfect, however it appears that the bluetooth issues are finally getting resolved, and allowing us to begin using the XDAII as it was intended.
Hi Colonel, thanks for your update, it is comforting to know that they are finally sorting out BT problems.
Is there any way to get the phone screen to automatically close after finishing a call? so I don't have to manually close it to get back to my GPS screen?
No I dont think you can. Not without altering the GPS software to continually make sure its "on top" of other windows... but then you'd have a problem with seeing the "incoming call screen" as the GPS software would try to jump on top of it.
I'd be so happy simply if I could make HCB30 and Blutrek G2 headset work side by side on my Qtek...
points are:
1-where coul i get that da***n 1.72 rom for my xda 2
2-where could i get the g2 HS in italy(even worlwide...) or all over the web at reasonable price
help a newbie...
Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .
edsub said:
Kolonel,
I can confirm your experience as far as BT GPS is concerned.
I however still have one issue to solve: When the MDAII (=XDA2) can't connect to the GPS (BT off, GPS off, GPS out of reach) and I start TomTom3, TomTom3 keeps searching for the GPS which results in a almost freezing MDA2.
Using rom 1,72 from Qtek I bonded the BT GPS and confirmed the question about assigning a com port.
In TomTom I assigned this (COM5) com port.
All works fine except for the issue mentioned.
Does this sound familiar?
Clues?
BTW in the BT settings screen there is nothing shown about the assigned com port (just free space next to the two lines that should indicate the in- and outbound com ports). I found COM5 to be assigned to BT by trial and error . . .
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edsub,
Are you using "Bluetooth Tools"? Because I am not, i'm using the native bluetooth stack only.
I am using "Outbound" Com port 5 ONLY for my GPS. My 1.72 rom is the IMATE rom.
Im afraid that i'm not familiar with tomtom. So I cant help you there, sorry.
I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.
edsub said:
I am deliberately only using native MS bT stack.
I am only using COM5 for GPS too
What does the BT Settings show under
"Bluetooth Serial Port Setup"?
With me:
"Outbound COM port" checked, but after the colon is a "<not present>" shown.
"Inbound COM port" UNchecked, after the colon is a grayed-out "<not present>" shown.
Like i said I AM able to use the GPS via COM5.
Maybe this issue is a pure TomTom issue, I think your answer could clarify that.
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Edsub, thats really weird... mine is:
"Inbound COM port:" UN checked, and after the colon is a grayed out "COM4"
"Outbound COM port:" checked, and after the colon is a black "COM5"
bluetooth
hi guys
im using imate 172 and tomtom 3 with a sony ericsson hb35 it works first time all the time with the standard stack. it works that good i even went and sold my carkit and just got a hold instead :lol:
@Kolonel Klink: I guessed it's strange. What ROM are you using exactly (OS & Extended).
I use the 1.72 Qtek rom with my own Extended Rom (wich is based on the Qtek ExtRom to which I added T-Mobile Nl customisations). I am sure there is nothing regarding Bluetooth in my ExtRom.
I heard from someone who uses the iMate 1.72 OS Rom (with his own cooked ExtRom) that he has the same results as you have.
Just trying to find to cause of this. Maybe I have to reflash to the iMate 1.72?? (shouldnt make a difference as both iMate and Qtek OS ROM's are the same 1.72.00WWE . . . .)
@freelockuk: Most interesting is the origin of your ExtRom. Arent there any Bluetooth enhancements in that ExtRom (like there were in the 1.60.36 T-Mobile NL ExtRom) that maybe make your 1.72 work better than mine concerning Bluetooth?
addition to prev post:
I noticed that there were two BT registry settings missing to get the assigned COMport show in BT Settings.
Also noticed another interesting value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
With me this one is:
"port"="BSP9:"
In prev versions it was:
"port"="BSP4:"
Can anyone with a 1.72 ROM that has a BT GPS mouse working via SPP AND who can start Tom Tom without the BT GPS mouse 'connected' post their setting of this key??
Okay, i've not cooked my own extended rom. I'm using the stock standard one from iMate.
I did find something odd today. I went into an IT expo and I turned flight-mode on. When I was finished I left and turned flight mode off. Then got in my car. I tried to make a call and it didnt go thru the handsfree kit.
Weird! I had to repair the device. So I did... and it all worked fine again. So I turned flight mode back on then off, and I ended up with the same result. It appears to lose the pairing when you turn the flight mode on.
Very odd!
I still have not found a solution to the behaviour where TomTom locks up the MDA with is isnt able to connect to my BT GPS.
Today I found out that this same behavious accurs on devices (not just MDA, HP too) that use a serial (wired) GPS when they take the current off the GPS . . .
That means:
1. TomTom Navigator can't cope with the situation where it cant connect to the GPS that is installed
2. With me TomTom navigator is not able to use the Bluetooth protocol on its side to cope with the (for Bluetooth GPS quite usual) unavailability of the BT GPS.
Again: Can anyone post me some info on this :?: :?:
Especially the registry items under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SerialPort]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dcn]
are of interest
@ Klink
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I'm watching them with interest.
Just wanted to as you about using your navman and the headset at the same time.
In your first post to this topic, you mentioned your 'carpark' test. I assume you weren't moving at the time, so the navman wasn't trying to give you directions.
What happens when you're driving along, getting instructions (ie. "turn left in 300m") from your navman, and the phone rings? Does the navman stop giving directions while you are talking on the phone using your BT handsfree? When you hang up does it resume giving directions again?
Thanks,
Hooligan
Emtact Trine BT GPS, Bluetrek G3 BT Headset
Like all of you my exprience is that it all works together.
But I've one problem. When navigating with TomTom and there is a incoming phone call and when I accept the call with my headset TomTom continues navigating but the sound of my QTEK2020 is muted during the call. So the instructions of TomTom cannot be heard.
I'm using plain MS BT Stack.
Regards,
Mark
This behaviour seems not the be dependent of the use of a BT headset. I have a carkit and during a call TomTom stays active in background. Sound of TomTom is muted however, which I find nice.
When the phone call is ended, TomTom starts talking again.(also nice)
first of all my nevigation program works great with the jabra 250 bt , it also mutes the program during a call is madeqreceived but :
there is anothe program that is called "ontime" that sends trqaffic status to the imate, using the gprs andthen calculates the fastest root( from junction to juction) and the problem is:
if i want to use buth progtams with royaltek gps bt rbt1000 they both need the com5 port fot bt.
to solve this problem one can use a prog called: "gpsgate" which makes a virtual port for the programs to use so u can use several program with one bt device.
for some it works only with bt tools, for others it doesnt work at all, gos knows why?!
but - if any1 needs a solution - here is one.
have a nice day , spark
QTEK 2020 - 1.72.00 WWE - 1.06.01
Back Pack - jabra 250 BT- royaltek rbt 1000 GPS BT - DESTINATOR3(LIKE TOM TOM 3) - soon will recieve sd 1gb*40
Spark, where did you get 'gpsgate'??
here is the link
http://franson.biz/gpsgate/download.asp
any body use the tomtom BT gps on the jam? any problem?
cheers
I use it with my bluetooth GPS (v 3.07)... No problem
@+
Largo
how do you get tom tom working ?
it keeps telling me to instal maps, wich i already did
Did you use official map installs or warez?
the map that comes with the tom tom software, you first install the navigator app and then you can install maps, then i install the netherlands and want to start tom tom on my mda and it says that i should install maps from the cd first
I had this, I think it happened because I installed everything at once without clicking the "ok" buttons on the PDA after each app installed (i.e it installs about 5 things, tom tom nav, tom tom gps, tom tom wizard, tom tom maps etc). If you dont click ok after each one it can get confused and not install the map.
Uninstall the map using activesync add/remove, then re-install it from the cd, making sure to click ok on the pda if it asks you.
If that doesnt work uninstall the whole lot using activesync, soft reset, then install from scratch but make sure to keep an eye for ok buttons on the pda while installing.
Also make sure you have enough memory, the maps are big (16mb, 32mb, 64mb and 128mb...dont know how big the netherlands one is).
Jez.
well its working now i think it was because the memory card i installed it on was not empty, i used an empty card now and everything is working
I cannot get it to install completely, as soon as i click on install it finds my JAM and an error message appears saying something about "File hierarchy" and tomtom support say that JAM is not a compatible phone for the navigator system. Can anyone help
anybody try the tomtom BT GPS?
works good for me with tomtom3 and blue tooth tomtom GPS.
first i had problem to install but it was because i use a USB hub.tomtom need a direct connection to install (there is a faq on TomTom site).
after to connect the bluetooth GPS ,you open Tom tom navigator , you ve got to go on the icone GPs state, then in Gps Folder choose "TomTom Wireless GPS" in the first window and "Bluetooth GPS" in the second.
good luck...
my jam always seems to freeze on tomtom 3.07 after a while im on v1.11 and bluetooth patch using an globalstat BT GPS :\ fecking thing
Brrrr Freezing again!
gazzaman2k said:
my jam always seems to freeze on tomtom 3.07 after a while im on v1.11 and bluetooth patch using an globalstat BT GPS :\ fecking thing
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Your freezing problem is prob because of your choice of memory cards, certain cards work well some not @ all, lotsa threads about this.
yeah i just found that out i have a peak ultra 60x high speed 1gb sd and a 256mb simpletech one the simpletech one works great but yet the 1gb one freezes
I am using the TomTom BT GPS w/ my Jam too.
But I am not using the Tomtom software (since I found Routis V2 is much better for voice prompt and routing in US). I don't even need to install the GPS driver. Just pair it once and it will connect eveytime I open up my GPS software.
Four things about Tom Tom on JAM:
1. It seems to be equally as buggy as the rest of the JAM so no knowing when wierd stuff happens whether or not it is TomTom or the JAM or something else. That said when you do get it going, it does work nicely most of the time. Some intermittent weird behaviour:
- sometimes won't change maps
- keeps turning JAM back on when I turn it off. Have to close TT3 to get it to stop.
- without a power source, screen keeps going dark
- occassional BT issues
2. When TomTom doesn't see the maps at all but you know you've installed them, make sure you haven't deleted a file in the root of your SD card called "ignore_my_docs" which is a zero byte file that is hidden. This caused me a bit of pain for a while.
3. Because of my previous issue, I discovered when I emailed TomTom support that TomTom doesn't in fact support this release on the Magician and won't help you if you tell them that is what you have. So if you do need support make sure you give them the name of a device that they do support.
4. TT3 user interface leaves a lot to be desire IMHO, and the one thing that drives me nuts is that I have this SD card full of wonderful maps that I have paid for yet I can't simply type in an address just to look at the map, I have to pretend to make a journey, connect the GPS, blah, blah, blah. The only way around this I found is that if you keep address information in your contacts, you can select the "Show TomTom map" option.
I've TT3 3.07 on my magician with an adapt bt gps and it works fine. You do have to shut down the application as stated above, the device will keep switching on if you don't. But one problem is irritating: I live in Belgium where there is a general speed limit of 120 Km/h. I set the prefs so that the safe speed warns me showing no map but only arrows. If I drive too fast for a while the QTek S100 switches off and sometimes back on if I slow down under 120 Km/h. I didn't have this prob on my other, wired, device.
Hi all, I bought a Qtek S100 and tried to connect it with my BT GPS receiver (Falcom Navi 1). It didn't work properly and I suddely lost te BT icon on the lower right hand side of the S100. It hasn't re-appeared even after several soft resets?
Does the S100 have the sae BT problems with GPS as the xdaII had?
I use BT GPS and the only problem so far is that I have to re-pair them sometimes.
Try Start->Settings->Connections->Bluetooth to get to the same screen as you would get to by clicking the BT icon.
THanks for the reply. Which BT GPS do you use? and with what Navigation program?
Holux GR-231 and TomTom3.
I am having problem with Bluetooth GPS as well. I have 2, one is iTrek Bluetooth GPS and one is ArcoreTech Bluetooth GPS.
Since I have tried both GPS units, I am pretty sure it's i-Mate JAM's Bluetooth problem.
Instead of upgrading my ROM to 1.06.00 WWE, I should have tried it out with version 1.03 first. I upgraded from 1.03 to 1.06 as soon as my JAM finished charging. BIG MISTAKE!
I ended up usiing "Pocket Bluetooth Tool" to designate COM8 (for example) for my GPS. However, if I happen to soft reset or turn of Bluetooth, I would have to pair it again.
I read many article's on the internet and the problem seems to point to the MS Bluetooth stack (instead of Widcomm used in my i-Mate PDA2K - and by the way PDA2K works perfectly with my GPS units).
Hopefuly i-Mate will address this problem during the next ROM update.
So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?
I would like to guess that he uses ROM version 1.03...
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So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?
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I use 1.06.00. All i do is that I tap on the BT icon, choose 'Devices', tap 'New...' and waits until the phone finds the GPS. Then I add it and pair it with the passkey. Then I had to scan all serial ports using a program that Holux supplies (I bet it works with any BT reciever though) to find out that my port was COM5 and finally I set my programs to use COM5. As I previously stated, I do have to re-pair them sometimes for some reason, but I can live with that.
I previously had an Acore unit which worked ok with my iPAQ 5450 (also MS BT stack) in WM2003. It took me all the way from northern Sweden to Barcelona in Spain last summer
I have not used Pocket Bluetooth Tool, but I have read about it. I think that it works without it so far. I also leave my BT on 24/7 since I don't think that it uses too much battery.
I hope things work out for you.
Absolutley no problems with Rom 1.01.01 Ger and Navilock BT-308 GPS-Mouse
I am not sure if the following has anything to do with Bluetooth but at least it cured my Bluetooth vs. GPS problem, for now.
On Club i-Mate's ROM update page, I found out that if the radio version is 1.10, then I am NOT suppose to apply the camera patch. After I uninstalled it, my JAM seems to work better with Bluetooth GPS units. My biggest problems were:
1. Once I soft reset my JAM, I have to re-pair my GPS units.
2. PrymeNav software took a long time to scan for GPS - and crashes sometimes when I designate already-scanned port.
3. Unable to hold two paired GPS units in Bluetooth Device List (though only used on at a time).
I have played with it after I uninstalled the camera patch and to this morning my GPS units still function well. Another key is to turn on the GPS unit and make sure it is linked (as indicated by its LED) - then turn on the GPS software. That way the hardwares are ensured to be linked.
As a side bonus, now I can perform Bluetooth Activesync on my Mac (via PocketMac software). However, I still require Pocket Bluetooth Tool installed on my JAM.
Weird!
Greetings,
If anyone has any suggestions regarding this problem, I'd greatly appreciate it. I've tried a number of hard resets and configurations but I always end up with the same problem!
The problem:
Once iGuidance is configured to use my bluetooth GPS device on com5, the iMate hangs. From this point on, iGuidance hangs the OS every time it is launched (well right after the safety warning dialog...). I have to soft-reset.
My setup:
-iGuidance version 2.1.1
-iMate is running official iMate rom 1.72.00WWE (WM2003)
-GPS is Holux GPSlim236 via bluetooth SPP on com5.
-Installation is done via ActiveSync 3.7.1.
Things I have tried:
-verified that GPS works using Holux GpsViewer software
-configure iGuidance GPS port manually
-allow iGuidance to autodetect GPS port
-install after hard reset. Installation attemps via IR and USB...
-load maps from main memory
-load maps from sd card
-manually run 'findgps' in iNav folder and then launch iGuidance.
GPS Problems
Try installing Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/). Then give it a try. You'll most likely use Com7.
Thanks!
Wow, that's awesome. Thanks a lot! COM7 seems to have taken care of everything! Do you know of a reason why COM5 causes problems?
Please share your experiences with iguidance 2.1.1. I've got one original copy in the mail, coming to me right now and I'm eager to see it it work properly under WM5 (as the 2.0 did). If it don't, I'll revert back to WM2003.
So far I've planned a couple of very short trips and it seems to be routing and re-routing well. I don't drive much and this is my first experience with GPS but I like iGuidance so far!
It's working perfectly under WM5! GREAT.