How can I get my PPC to subscribe ONLY to the Inbox, Sent, and Trash folders? It seems to want to check ALL folders on the IMAP server which takes a LONG time over GPRS and makes it a pianful experience! I can't mess with the IMAP server, so any solution would have to exclude changing settings on the IMAP server. Is there a 3rd party app. that fixes this?
Try INBOX/accounts choose imap account then TOOLS/Manage Folders and put a check in the box of each folder you would like to have checked.
Even if only those folders are marked for synch Pocket Inbox still waste time by re-loading the folder hierarchy at each connection. This is what we need to find a way to disable if possible. There was a specific option to disable this behaviour on the HP Jornada 720 (HPC) email client. Not sure why MS dropped that option on the PPC. Pretty sure someone could come up with a registry hack to fix this.
Exact same problem
Hello everyone,
I have the exact same problem. I have lots of IMAP folders (374) and my IMAP client always gets the whole folderlist. Has someone a workaround for that problem or is there a smarter imap client out there that just checks the subscribed folders or the folder I do specify?
Thomas
Related
I searched on this forum for the answer and could not find it, so I apologize in advance if I missed it. I am set up for email with IMAP and whenever I send a message from my desktop computer, those emails show up on my Qtec in the sent messages folder. However, when I send messages from my Qtec, they are sent, but vanish completely from my sent messages (or any folder) on my Qtec or my desktop. I have no records of the emails I have sent from my handheld. My temporary workaround has been to cc myself and then move the received email into the sent messages folder, but thats a pain and not the way its supposed to work. Thanks in advance.
did you look in the messaging app
under the menu iteoms tools then options ou see a tab called message.
make sure keep copies of sent items in sent folder is ticked.
I admit I've been Googling
I'm having the same problem on a different Windows Mobile 5 device; I've ticked that setting (as well as syncing the "Sent Items" folder), but the messages still disappear. The same problem occurred on my older Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition device. Very odd.
bug in Pocket Outlook WM5 IMAP sent items problem
its a bug... Its unbelievable that they havent fixed it in WM5 either! I've also been struggling to use this, the keep copy of sent items option being ticked doesnt work with IMAP for some daft reason.
I did some searching on the internet, and the (apparent) reason is to minimise memory usage on the pocket pc, which is fine for POP but the whole concept of IMAP is that all the email is on the server not on the device! So it really is a lack of foresight on the part of microsoft not to think about this, after all this is a great business tool, so the need for decent IMAP checking of sent-items is essential when you are "on the move"
Come on everyone, lets all complain to microsoft to fix this, It seems another solution is to use "flex mail" which has the ability to use a memory card as storage. I'll let everyone know my findings on wether it is a better solution than the built in email pocket outlook client.
Derek
I just tried Flexmail... doesnt work...
I sent the following email to the developers to gain a bit of interest (hopefully)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hardware: jasjar / xda exec - WM5
Version: 2.2
Mail Server Name: own webserver with IMAP support
Connection Used: GPRS
Protocols Used: IMAP
SMS Integration: on
Type of Issue: IMAP Synchronization
Beta version Used:
Issue:
Hi there, I installed your software to hopefully get around the problem where all pocket PC's do not allow access to the "sent items" folder from the device. As I wish to use this device for business it is vital that I can see what email's I have sent from either my desktop PC (running Outlook Express 6) and my xda when out of the office.
Your program seems to work fine (the trial version) but the sent items does not seem to be on the server, but locally stored, which again negates the whole point of imap.
On the Flexmail program, a folder called "Sent" exists which is not on the server. So I see no way of actually using your program to achieve what I need it for!!!
If you plan on fixing this in the next release please let me know asap... as a lot of people on xda-developers.com are scratching their heads in disbelief that microsoft has not fixed such a fundamental bug!
Regards
Derek Foley
I just tried Flexmail... doesnt work...
I sent the following email to the developers to gain a bit of interest (hopefully)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hardware: jasjar / xda exec - WM5
Version: 2.2
Mail Server Name: own webserver with IMAP support
Connection Used: GPRS
Protocols Used: IMAP
SMS Integration: on
Type of Issue: IMAP Synchronization
Beta version Used:
Issue:
Hi there, I installed your software to hopefully get around the problem where all pocket PC's do not allow access to the "sent items" folder from the device. As I wish to use this device for business it is vital that I can see what email's I have sent from either my desktop PC (running Outlook Express 6) and my xda when out of the office.
Your program seems to work fine (the trial version) but the sent items does not seem to be on the server, but locally stored, which again negates the whole point of imap.
On the Flexmail program, a folder called "Sent" exists which is not on the server. So I see no way of actually using your program to achieve what I need it for!!!
If you plan on fixing this in the next release please let me know asap... as a lot of people on xda-developers.com are scratching their heads in disbelief that microsoft has not fixed such a fundamental bug!
Regards
Derek Foley
Solved - simple workaround
Yesterday I spent a few hours trying to solve the problem of seeing sent items on an xda and outlook express as well with IMAP.
After much "mucking around" with different email clients, and not to mention finding some that work with WM5, I eventually figured out a workable solution - It involves installing and using flexmail instead of pocket outlook that comes with the pda.
Flexmail runs as a trial demo... to purchase it is $19.95, it also has SMS capability, and after installing and a restart replaces the messaging link on the today screen.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail&dir=wm&tab_id=purchase
There is one extra step involved to make it work, so its not ideal, (see my earlier posting to the software company who make it) but it means you can achieve what you desired and see all emails sent from either the laptop/desktop pc and pda.
I think if you want to try this solution, It might be an idea to make sure you're using a memory card as this program can be configured to save emails to the memory card, which could be useful if you have large email attachment such as a scanned document, which might fill up the internal memory on the phone easily.
While digging around I found a Viking 2GB SD card (£40.26 ex vat)
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=104113
Instructions
1) install and configure flexmail on your xda/pda to access your IMAP server
2) set up an IMAP email account on your PC with a mail client (e.g. Outlook Express 6)
2) make sure synchronise is set on all folders on the PC and the pda
3) for reference - the IMAP "sent folder" on the server is called "Sent Items"
On flexmail, however, it stores any pocket pc outgoing emails in its own "local folder" called "sent". This is not uploaded for some strange reason.
Therefore to view the emails from anywhere, on flexmail, after sending, just open the "sent" folder and then go to the menu, and move the email into the imap folder called 'Sent-Items'.
A send and receive will upload these items, moving them out of the "local folder" and will then enable them to be viewed on any IMAP client - also on the pda from the same folder.
Flexmail also seems to support html email - which is nice! It has lots of configurable options and seems to be a great bit of software.
Obviously there might be some connectivity issues with larger file attachments over GPRS using IMAP. So try and find a 3G spot if you can - or someone's WIFI router for bigger attachments!
Derek
Solved - simple workaround
Yesterday I spent a few hours trying to solve the problem of seeing sent items on an xda and outlook express as well with IMAP.
After much "mucking around" with different email clients, and not to mention finding some that work with WM5, I eventually figured out a workable solution - It involves installing and using flexmail instead of pocket outlook that comes with the pda.
Flexmail runs as a trial demo... to purchase it is $19.95, it also has SMS capability, and after installing and a restart replaces the messaging link on the today screen.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail&dir=wm&tab_id=purchase
There is one extra step involved to make it work, so its not ideal, (see my earlier posting to the software company who make it) but it means you can achieve what you desired and see all emails sent from either the laptop/desktop pc and pda.
I think if you want to try this solution, It might be an idea to make sure you're using a memory card as this program can be configured to save emails to the memory card, which could be useful if you have large email attachment such as a scanned document, which might fill up the internal memory on the phone easily.
While digging around I found a Viking 2GB SD card (£40.26 ex vat)
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=104113
Instructions
1) install and configure flexmail on your xda/pda to access your IMAP server
2) set up an IMAP email account on your PC with a mail client (e.g. Outlook Express 6)
2) make sure synchronise is set on all folders on the PC and the pda
3) for reference - the IMAP "sent folder" on the server is called "Sent Items"
On flexmail, however, it stores any pocket pc outgoing emails in its own "local folder" called "sent". This is not uploaded for some strange reason.
Therefore to view the emails from anywhere, on flexmail, after sending, just open the "sent" folder and then go to the menu, and move the email into the imap folder called 'Sent-Items'.
A send and receive will upload these items, moving them out of the "local folder" and will then enable them to be viewed on any IMAP client - also on the pda from the same folder.
Flexmail also seems to support html email - which is nice! It has lots of configurable options and seems to be a great bit of software.
Obviously there might be some connectivity issues with larger file attachments over GPRS using IMAP. So try and find a 3G spot if you can - or someone's WIFI router for bigger attachments!
Derek
Solved - simple workaround
Yesterday I spent a few hours trying to solve the problem of seeing sent items on an xda and outlook express as well with IMAP.
After much "mucking around" with different email clients, and not to mention finding some that work with WM5, I eventually figured out a workable solution - It involves installing and using flexmail instead of pocket outlook that comes with the pda.
Flexmail runs as a trial demo... to purchase it is $19.95, it also has SMS capability, and after installing and a restart replaces the messaging link on the today screen.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail&dir=wm&tab_id=purchase
There is one extra step involved to make it work, so its not ideal, (see my earlier posting to the software company who make it) but it means you can achieve what you desired and see all emails sent from either the laptop/desktop pc and pda.
I think if you want to try this solution, It might be an idea to make sure you're using a memory card as this program can be configured to save emails to the memory card, which could be useful if you have large email attachment such as a scanned document, which might fill up the internal memory on the phone easily.
While digging around I found a Viking 2GB SD card (£40.26 ex vat)
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=104113
Instructions
1) install and configure flexmail on your xda/pda to access your IMAP server
2) set up an IMAP email account on your PC with a mail client (e.g. Outlook Express 6)
2) make sure synchronise is set on all folders on the PC and the pda
3) for reference - the IMAP "sent folder" on the server is called "Sent Items"
On flexmail, however, it stores any pocket pc outgoing emails in its own "local folder" called "sent". This is not uploaded for some strange reason.
Therefore to view the emails from anywhere, on flexmail, after sending, just open the "sent" folder and then go to the menu, and move the email into the imap folder called 'Sent-Items'.
A send and receive will upload these items, moving them out of the "local folder" and will then enable them to be viewed on any IMAP client - also on the pda from the same folder.
Flexmail also seems to support html email - which is nice! It has lots of configurable options and seems to be a great bit of software.
Obviously there might be some connectivity issues with larger file attachments over GPRS using IMAP. So try and find a 3G spot if you can - or someone's WIFI router for bigger attachments!
Derek
Hi guys,
Our Exchange server filters junk mail in to the "Junk E-Mail" folder. However, my pocket PC still downloads it (which is obviously a waste of GPRS, and really annoying as I get it so often).
Is there a way to stop it downloading mail if its been moved to Junk?
Why dont't you try a mail client with filters? Fleximail for example...
Have you selected which specific folders you wish to download? On your TyTN, start the mail client, and select
Menu... Tools... Manage Folders...
You can select or deselect to your heart's content...
i believe the junk-mail filters are an outlook plugin, therefore the rules that are used to filter junk mail are client side.
i too, find this annoying. worse yet is if you have a fat outlook client running, the junk-mail makes it to your junk mail folder, yet the update on the wm5 device is SLOOOOOOW as the client side "junk filter" rules don't trigger a sync.
Does it just download effectively the "headers" initially, or the full message?
Alternatively can you run something like "Mailwasher" on the TnTN to do the filtering before using Outlook?
Well the mail filtering is actually done server side by Exchange. There are options on the exchange server to move anything over a certain score straight to the Junk Mail folder. So my PPC will download the mail as if it's in my inbox, but when I login to web-mail, its actually in Junk.
Hi,
I'd like to configure Windows Mobile to make that the delete mail action in my gmail account archives the mail instead of deleting it.
I've read some post over the web talking about this issue, and giving some solutions, but none of them for Windows Mobile.
In essence, the solution implies to change the "label" that is associated with the delete action, so it must change from "[gmail]/trash" to "[gmail]/All mail" (this is my own interpretation of what I've read, very simplified ), but I don't know how to do this. I've searched the registry and the file system looking for some configuration entries, but I've been unable to find any
Any ideas? Is this possible to do?
(my ppc is a HTC TouchHD, by the way)
thanks
1 of the differences between imap and pop3 is that
imap dont delete the mails
you should try to change to pop3 in your pda
Use the IMAP connection and just move the messages to a folder on your PPC, this will change the tags in your gmail account. Thus moving the email from your Inbox to the folder of your choice.
Hi again,
Thanks Rudegar and Deedee for your replys. (sorry for my delayed answar, but I've been out of home some days)
Rudegar, I've been testing the pop3 access, but I have a problem. I use POP (with MS Outlook) in my main computer, so I always have my mails there and organized as I want (folders, subfolders, filters to delete, move, etc...) This is my main "mail box" and I like it this way 8·). The problem now is that if I download one mail from one pop3 "reader" (be it the PC or the PPC) the other one "loses" the mail. I suppose that gmail marks the mail as downloaded by pop so it is not "served" anymore. This makes the pop option "not an option" 8·(
Deedee, I've been playing a little more with the IMAP folders, and, as you say, I can move the messages to folders. The problem here is that this is not so easy as simply deleting it, and letting gmail to keep it archived. What I want is to be able to delete the messages but to be sure that there are kept safe by google, just in case ;·)...
What I want to do is exactly what is described in this page (http://vjarmy.com/archives/2007/10/tutorial_easy_archiving_for_gmai.php), but I don't know if there is some way to do the same in Windows Mobile
Thansk again for your help 8·)
it's done! well... in fact it has been always done! 8·)
As a nice "side efect" of using a spanish version of Windows Mobile, mails are never marked as "Trash", but as "Elementos eliminados", what, of course, gmail does not understands and treats it as a normal label. So emails are never sent to the trash folder, wich is what I wanted! 8·)
So problem solved! Thanks again for your pattience 8·D
So, i have an exchange server 2007 working on Windows server 2008. My mailbox has about a dozen of rules that are distributing my mail to subfolders after they arrive...
The problem is that Active sync in my experia syncs only the main inbox folder, all the subfolders remain empty, although there are mails in them.
Can this be resolved in some way? maybe some kind of 3rd party program or a patch or something? ive tryied all the settings i know but no success...
thanks
go to mail->menu->tools->manage folders
check all the folders you need synced
There is also a problem where if you sync too many folders the phone just gives an error code. I have had to resort to removing most rules for mail I need to see, as it will only sync somewhere around 20 or 30 folders but I have about 80.
BIG limitation.
Never found a fix.
If you do, please PM me with it.
I was having some setup issues with Gmail pop; I’ve found a workaround so thought I’d share it.
I like to check my email regularly with the HD2 throughout the day, but manage the majority of these through Outlook when I get home. So on my HD2 I set up a pop mail account to check my Gmail at regular intervals (5 mins), get the entire message but leave a copy of the message on the server so I can still access these with Outlook later.
Problem was whenever the HD2 downloaded an email despite the setup being configured to leave the message on the server these mails were marked “as read” by Gmail and archived, presumably because my Gmail account was set to “archive emails that have been accessed through pop”. This was clearly overriding the “leave a copy on the server” setting. So I’d get an email on my device, this was then automatically removed from the Gmail inbox and archived, 5 minutes later the HD2 would check again, see the inbox was empty and therefore delete the email from my device. Outlook never got a look in as when I got home all the emails had been archived so it was seeing no emails at all.
Hence the disappearing email problem.
Firstly I tried changing the Gmail setting to “keep Google mails copy in the inbox when it had been accessed by pop”, this worked to a degree but I found it slightly irritating having to go in and manually erase all the emails in my Gmail inbox once I had downloaded them.
I then tried enabling imap in Gmail and binning pop access altogether, i.e., accessing all my emails through imap both on the HD2 and on Outlook. Again this worked to a degree but I have Outlook set up a particular way and I found that imap didn’t really work for me in that regard.
Eventually I sussed getting it to work the way I want, I set up both pop and imap access in Gmail. I had the HD2 accessing mails through imap, and Outlook accessing through pop (with the setting for ” archiving emails once accessed through pop” enabled in Gmail). So the HD2 would accrue all the emails that I received throughout the day and keep these in the Gmail inbox so when I fired up Outlook at home these were still there to be downloaded. Of course once I had retrieved these emails through Outlook these were automatically archived by Gmail and only then were they removed from the HD2 then next time it checked the server, which was fine as they had been dealt with and were no longer required, perfect!
So that’s been my weekend really, hope it helps anyone that wants a similar setup.
POP is the wrong method for your interest.
POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it.
You only need to use IMAP method to leave a copy on the server.
Just that easy.
You could have saved a lot time if you only setup imap in your email settings in the phone.
All other stuff was completely too much. Sorry
Im using that method since i had the Touch HD and still use it with Gmail on the HD2 and my mails stay on the huuuuuuge google servers too.
Undoubtedly imap has its advantages, certainly on the phone its working well for me.
You did raise a point:
"POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it"
Should this happen when the you have set-up an account on the device thats configured to "do not delete messages from the server"? Because despite my account being set-up this way my emails were being deleted (or archived, either way, disappeared!) nevertheless. That's specifically why i wanted to detail why I did what I did as I'm sure this issue could catch other people out.
POP is designed to catch mails AND clean up your email account on the server.
This makes sense when you have limited storage space (i have an arcor account too and have only 25mb on there).
From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".
Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.
In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option.
This is mostly the reason that the emails get deleted when using POP.
IMAP is designed to give you the opportunity to have a look at your emails like on the server.
When you read an email on your pda the mail will be automatically flagged as read on the server too.
It is some kind of sync.
There are these two well known ways just to give you the opportunity and fulfil your needs. Just use the one that serves you well.
In your case this will be IMAP
"From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".
Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.
In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option"
When i was setting up the account on the HD2 I was ticking this option to leave message on server upon deletion (see screen shot), although it seems i was misunderstanding this function.
Yeah the function you checked was only for the deleted mails.
It just tells the server what to do with the mails that you deleted on your device.
Sounds good, I'd just replace imap access on the HD2 with activesync, even better.
I'm interested in what your "weird configuration in outlook that makes you not able to use imap" is though.