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Bluetooth and GPS problem

Hi all, I bought a Qtek S100 and tried to connect it with my BT GPS receiver (Falcom Navi 1). It didn't work properly and I suddely lost te BT icon on the lower right hand side of the S100. It hasn't re-appeared even after several soft resets?
Does the S100 have the sae BT problems with GPS as the xdaII had?

I use BT GPS and the only problem so far is that I have to re-pair them sometimes.
Try Start->Settings->Connections->Bluetooth to get to the same screen as you would get to by clicking the BT icon.

THanks for the reply. Which BT GPS do you use? and with what Navigation program?

Holux GR-231 and TomTom3.

I am having problem with Bluetooth GPS as well. I have 2, one is iTrek Bluetooth GPS and one is ArcoreTech Bluetooth GPS.
Since I have tried both GPS units, I am pretty sure it's i-Mate JAM's Bluetooth problem.
Instead of upgrading my ROM to 1.06.00 WWE, I should have tried it out with version 1.03 first. I upgraded from 1.03 to 1.06 as soon as my JAM finished charging. BIG MISTAKE!
I ended up usiing "Pocket Bluetooth Tool" to designate COM8 (for example) for my GPS. However, if I happen to soft reset or turn of Bluetooth, I would have to pair it again.
I read many article's on the internet and the problem seems to point to the MS Bluetooth stack (instead of Widcomm used in my i-Mate PDA2K - and by the way PDA2K works perfectly with my GPS units).
Hopefuly i-Mate will address this problem during the next ROM update.

So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?

I would like to guess that he uses ROM version 1.03...
Jazzedout said:
So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?
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I use 1.06.00. All i do is that I tap on the BT icon, choose 'Devices', tap 'New...' and waits until the phone finds the GPS. Then I add it and pair it with the passkey. Then I had to scan all serial ports using a program that Holux supplies (I bet it works with any BT reciever though) to find out that my port was COM5 and finally I set my programs to use COM5. As I previously stated, I do have to re-pair them sometimes for some reason, but I can live with that.
I previously had an Acore unit which worked ok with my iPAQ 5450 (also MS BT stack) in WM2003. It took me all the way from northern Sweden to Barcelona in Spain last summer
I have not used Pocket Bluetooth Tool, but I have read about it. I think that it works without it so far. I also leave my BT on 24/7 since I don't think that it uses too much battery.
I hope things work out for you.

Absolutley no problems with Rom 1.01.01 Ger and Navilock BT-308 GPS-Mouse

I am not sure if the following has anything to do with Bluetooth but at least it cured my Bluetooth vs. GPS problem, for now.
On Club i-Mate's ROM update page, I found out that if the radio version is 1.10, then I am NOT suppose to apply the camera patch. After I uninstalled it, my JAM seems to work better with Bluetooth GPS units. My biggest problems were:
1. Once I soft reset my JAM, I have to re-pair my GPS units.
2. PrymeNav software took a long time to scan for GPS - and crashes sometimes when I designate already-scanned port.
3. Unable to hold two paired GPS units in Bluetooth Device List (though only used on at a time).
I have played with it after I uninstalled the camera patch and to this morning my GPS units still function well. Another key is to turn on the GPS unit and make sure it is linked (as indicated by its LED) - then turn on the GPS software. That way the hardwares are ensured to be linked.
As a side bonus, now I can perform Bluetooth Activesync on my Mac (via PocketMac software). However, I still require Pocket Bluetooth Tool installed on my JAM.
Weird!

Clash Between BT Headset & GPS

Can anyone help with this,
I have an O2 Exec (Latest O2 ROM etc)
I have a Bluetooth GPS & Bluetooth Headset, when using the GPS, if a call comes in I can answer it on the headset, but the GPS goes all screwy, starts losing position, even after the call is ended the GPS is erratic
I have installed Buzzs Bluetooth Patch, and no effect,
Its a bit of a pain if I can't use a Bluetooth headset and GPS at the same time.
Anyone had this and found a cure?.
EXEC, Details are
1.13.82 WWE
11/30/05
1.04.02
42.37.P8
1.13.118 WWE
Help appreciated
Thanks
Richard

Richard im on the same rom as you but without the bt patch and ive no problems

alix776,
I will try it again later on, I had the problem before I installed the patch, so I installed it to see if it cured it, but it didn't
I will do a hard rest later and start from scratch again, see if that helps,
I didn't have any problems using the same BT Headset on an XDA 2i, so assumed it would work ok on the EXEC, the only change to the setup is the GPS unit, I am using a really cheap and cruddy £30 jobbie off ebay (Its only 8 Ch, and seems a bit flaky!),
I will have a new Sirf3 unit arriving in a few days, so can try that to see if the problem is with the cheap BT GPS!.
I need to get a solution sorted in the next 10 days before going back to work in the US, or I will have to take the TTOne with me if I can't get this setup working 100%
Cheers
Richard

Alix
I just tried it again from a hard reset and the same problem
GPS works fine till I answer a call, then It stalls and loses GPS Position till I hang up, then GPS connects again but there is massive lag and the Map is nowhere near its true position,
Not cured until you exit TT and restart,
How did you install TT, I copied the cabs across and installed from the SD, I paired the GPS and set it to COM0, then in TT5 selected Other Bluetooth GPS and COM0.. am I doing something wrong with the way I am trying to get it installed
This has always worked on all the other systems I have used!
Cheers
Richard

I have the same problem and other...
I have the same problem when using Tom Tom ,if I pick a call with my BT headset the gps lost the position and when I close the phone call TT says No GPS device.......it restarts by himself after few mins , but the position is uncorrect, it has like a sort of delay, the arrow on the display "follows me" 2 or 3 Km behind.
So, mi car is quite fast..but be faster than a navigation device is very funny...
Btw my gps antena is an Hamlet HBTGPS
Other problem I have is that Tomtom 5.21 don't allow me to use my TT5.00 maps,it only see Italy ,Iberia and UK...
I think I will get Navigon asap....
Bye...

just a thought have you tried formating the storage card and reinstalling the map just back it up first in using a sirf3 apos and jabra 250v headset ive also used a ttmk2 bt receiver with no probs either

Same here
I am also getting this issue on an SPW M5000, flashed to the Imate test rom. I don't know if it was happening before on the original (crappy) orange rom that it shipped with as I had to upgrade my GPS to a bluetooth from a mouse.
It is a real pain not being able to use them both together and I'm tied to the phone with a wire at the minute.
Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

MDA Vario, Co-Pilot & Bluetooth Car Kit Problem

Hi. I have a MDA Vario, ALK Co-Pilot with Bluetooth GPS & a Pama "Plug'n'Go 4" Bluetooth Car kit.
I can use the Vario and the Car Kit together with out a problem and I can use the Vario and the Sat Nav with out a problem, but I cannot use them both together. When you run the Co-Pilot software on the phone with the car kit paired it disconnects the car kit, then the car kit re-connects itself, then it disconnects etc.......
I have looked in the bluetooth pairng for the Car kit and their are no settings I can change, and the Co-Pilot software talks directly to the Bluetooth GPS receiver and thir are no settings that can be changed in that either. I am stuck. Co-Pilot say its the Car kit and Pama say it is the Sat Nav, and the guy in the T-Mobile shop says it could be the Windows Mobile 5.
Does anyone know if TomTom or any other Sat Nav vendor do a demo version for Windows Mobile 5. That way I can see if it is a Co-Pilot issue or not, I know people with Sat Nav systems but none of them are for Windows Mobile. I also know a couple of people who use bluetooth headsets but not car kits, I cannot get on with headsets, after about half an hour I want to throw it out of the car window. I have asked if I could borrow a car kit from the T-Mobile shop, but they said no!!
I downloaded and installed the latest rom from T-Mobile last night, it was only released on the 19/06/2006, but it did not fix any thing.
Regards
Andrew

Hi sysmanuk i have got copilot and vario and hve used it fine on a parrot 3100 i also used tomtom again no problems this was on the old tmobile rom not used it on new rom but it sounds like it is the pama device causing the problem can you upgrade its firmware if so try that

Hi ya,
I can confirm that i use tomtom, a parrot ck3000 and a holox bt-321 with no problems. They all stay paired.
I can either turn the BT on before i get in the car and thus just have the ck3000 pair, or i can have BT turned on paired up with the ck3000 then start Tomtom and have no issues. Or i can just start tomtom with turns the BT on and then this auto pairs with the GPS unit and the ck3000.
I hope this givess you some help in to finding out what is causing the issue.

I had this issue, using the T-mobile MDA Vario release rom, a Parrot ck3100 & tomtom5.21 with a bluetooth rikaline gps.
If both used together, the car kit would randomly disconnect bluetooth, and the gps would also randomly diconnect.
Used seperately they were fine.
I went back to using the Vario with the Parrot, and my old Ipaq for Tomtom/GPS.
I have now updated to the Mr Clean rom, and plan on retesting once I reload all the software.

TOMTOM6 and bluetooth GPS problem

I'm just going crazy with this problem:
I installed TT6 on the I-mate Jamin, connected to the BT GPS Holux GPSlim236 and it was working. After some hours or days, when I launch TT6, it does not recognize the BT GPS, it displays " no GPS (flight mode)" also if BT is active on the pda.
I tried also to update the firmware to the LvsW AKU 2.3.1 that should be very stable but the problem arised again. If I install again TT& it works again for some hour only.
Anothe strange behaviour is that TT6 is not trying to activate automatically the BT when launched, while after the installation it was.
Any solution?
Thanks in advance

did you disabled the phone?
when the phone is off, even if bluetooth is on, tomtom can not communicate with any bluetooth gps.

a new hope...
Maybe yes, I disabled the phone, as I was doing in my previous iPaq WM2003. I will follow your indication and give feedback asap. The strange thing is that other GPS programs are working with the BT GPS even if the phone is disabled.

Thank you! I could solved it!
Thank you, adl67-san, zadigre-san.
I had same problem with my QTEK9000 & TomTom6.
The problem was TomTom6 can not find GPS receiver(Holux GPSlim240).
But after Phone function is ON, it works well.
(Normally, I use my QTEK9000 without SIM.)
This problem has bother me for 1 month.
Now I can use it.
Thanks a lot again.
Sincerely yours,

Bluetooth GPS and Handfree

Hi,
i have a new JVC car radio (AVX33) with builtin Bluetooth and a Bluetooth GPS Mouse. Everything work fine also A2DP stereo but only one at time When my BA (with last Explode Rom) is connected to the radio and i want navigate with TomTom or any other programm i cant connect to the GPS mouse.
Disconnect the Radio, the GPS Mouse worked fine but when i reconnect the radio, it disconnect the GPS mouse.
Is there any way to use both at the same time?
Thanks,
tasar

It seems that all BA WM6 (6.1) ROM do not manage correctly multiple connections with BT devices at the same time. There is no way, for example, to grant BT ActiveSync connection while connected to a stupid BT hearphone (or to a GPS unit, as in your example).
I will downgrade to WM 2003 very soon...

Not good to hear But when i go back to 2003 i cant play music over BT,right? No A2DP with 2003?
Is this a problem form the BA or from WM6? I tkink to buy another PDA (which?) but when there is the same problem, i can keep my BA.
Tasar

Correct Mixture can be possible
Unfortunately, the current answer is a mixture between the WWE os and BT Software with know sacrafice.
My current build is: BA 5.2.19202 with MS BT
This is the current issue that you are defining.
Previous build:
TouchFlo 5.2.1938 with Broadcom 1.7.1
This allows the use of BT GPS and A2DP stereo at the same time.
Unfortunately it is at the cost of the phone feature. If you pair the headset feature of the of the stereo device, it will always choose the headset and not A2DP.
So the end question is: what enviroment do you want. A phone pda or pda
One final issue: The Broadcom 1.7.1 software does not work with all os. My 5.2.1902 will not work and the uninstall restores an older version of the MS BT with problems. I ended up reflashing the device.

aerotrike said:
So the end question is: what enviroment do you want. A phone pda or pda
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What a question Of course i want a Phone PDA!
But is the Bluetooth Problem an BA problem or a WM6? I think to buy another/newer PDA but when this is an WM6 Problem i can keep my BA.
Tasar

Push this to top again.
Is there a solution for this problem...?
I want to connect my BA (WM6) to a BT-Mouse and to a BT-Headset (mono) at the same time. Does this cause any Problems, or does it work...?
Greets Rossi

You should try; i connect my BT-GPS receiver and my BT-headset in the same time, with no problems.

Can you tell which GPS and Headset, and what are youre settings...?
I tried with these and it won't work:
- Navilock BT-348 Bluetooth GPS
- MIDLAND Rider Bluetooth Headset
Which version of WM6, eg. HELMIs...?
Greets Rossi