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Hello All,
I am researching purchasing a SPV m1000 for my company to use as a phone and WAP device to check email through our WAP portal. After reading many, many of your postings it sounds like to use GPRS in different countries we will have to change the settings (ie. access points) in each country we visit. Is this correct? Does this become a pain to do? How do you get the settings for each country?
Also I understand that if GPRS is not available you can use WAP using just GSM at 9.6kbps. Do you just dial a number similar to a dial-up to connect to this? How well does it work?
Does GPRS usually work out more cost effictive than data through GSM? Which UK company seems to be the best when using in many different countries?
Thanks for any help,
Daniel
Hello,
The GPRS settings shouldn't change. It depends if your phone provider has roaming agreement worldwide.
I had a french phone provider, Bouyues, who had no agreement, so outside France I was stucked.
Now I am in Switzerland, Swisscom mobile has agreements worldwide and I can get access to WAP without any problem. Of course, it's more expensive... but it works without changing anything.
Hi,
Could those Universal owners in Australia response to this thread with...
a) What provider they are with
b) What plan they are on
c) The procedure for configuring their unit with their provider (to this point of surfing the net on mobile broadband.
Rather than trial and error I thought I'd try and cheat and just ask someone who's gone through all the pain already.
I would also be interested to hear comparisons between plans and providers.
Regards
Michael
I'm interested too! I've been looking on the net at Telstra, Optus, Vodafone and Three but I can't see anything really great - all very exy!!
Most are linked with phones on plans - not good for us we've already got the unit.
I want a sim only plan that gives me reasonable rates for data download.
I'm using Three - gave the bundled phone to a friend who wanted to upgrade an old NEC. $99 Cap Plan includes $15 towards data usage, but i've never managed to get past the $99 cap yet.
The data speed is fast - to get 3G you need to create a new connection, set the AccessPoint, which is "3netaccess", and leave all others blank. Roams to Telstra GPRS when out of coverage in Oz.
Don't bother with Three if you go overseas - there's no data coverage outside Australia for Australian customers.
There is also no comprehensible FAQ on their site for the MMS setup - just lots of pages with "your phone comes preconfigured - don't change it" comments. Ringing support is no good, if you try to, they soon figure out you are not using "their" phone, and can't help you.
If anyone else here has MMS working please give the settings.
Telstra Universal on 3G
I purchased my JasJar in the UK on a business trip, and with my UK Vodafone SIM had 3G working fine.
For Telstra 3G you need a new USIM for 3G - they should supply for free if you're a post-paid customer.
It actually roams onto the joing 3/Telstra network and drops back to Telstra GPRS.
The Telstra settings are simple - telstra.internet for the APN
Also, the 3G data plans are more generous - I changed from $55/month 5MB plan to a 3G $15/month 6MB plan.
All seems to be working fine.
www.andrewgrill.com
I have the JJ and use Telstra. The process was simple, Tell my secretary to give it to me, TElstra call me back and say that I have it, use the Imate auto configure to install it and of I go.
Expensive yes, but in the overall scheme of my business costs, its not worth looking at. Telstra I believe have a special for the video call bit that they charge the same for a video call as they do for a mobile phone call, to get you to join and try it. I dont have anybody interested in video calls.
I didnt need a telstra sim to do this, and havent actually tested it for videos.
I only really use it a little bit for internet connectivity, and given that I have wireless networks at home and office, I dont use the GPRS to 3G connectivity much.
Heads up though and it is posted in these forums elsewhere that phone companies (and I suspect telstra) would limit it your speeds to the minimum required for video conferencing which is 128kb ps, whereas 3G networks are capable of 384kbps, and only switch it on when you ask for it.
I really dont have that much need, and it doesnt even come close to the capabilities and speeds, ease, costs and overall benefits of the ADSL wireless network.
Hi, I sold my Universal (O2 Xda Exec unlocked) to somebody on eBay who lives in Melbourne, Australia.
Today I received this e-mail from him after he received it:
"My sim card doesn't work."invalid or missing sim card" appears.Can you help me to figure out."
Any ideas anyone?
PS: I should add that mine was one of the 1st Execs shipped in December and was definately unlocked as I had it working with O2 and Orange. All I have changed is to install the new Extended ROM update from their web site, which I presume doesn't have SIM locking does it?
PPS: Update from user: "Thanks for your response.Australia has got a couple network. I currently use $49 cap plan Optus network. but I don't have any idea about frequency."
my friend had a problem with optusnet, told it was the phone!!
I put my telstra sim in, worked perfectly the first time.
went to optus, requested a new sim, got it tested it didn't work, logged a support call, waited for call back, tried agin with support, nothing returned, got a telstra sim the next day and never looked back...
moral, optusnet support sucks when they don't sell you a phone, the knoledge is limited and competency sucks.
BUT I do use them for adsl, and home phone, even then acknowledge that they suck.
Tell your customer to test it on a friends telstra card and run the telstra cab, its something in optusnet.
by the way, my friends phone wa the imate jam / xda mini so the problems hadn't even started with the 3g network of the exec.
my jasjar works perfectly on telstra.
pm me, or get your customer onto the forum if I can provide localised help.
Thanks. Can you please clarify what you mean by "run the telstra cab, its something in optusnet"? What is a 'cab'?
Are they the same network and would he be able to retain his account, or does he have to switch networks?
Networks in Australia
Although Optus and Vodafone in Australia actually share a 3G network (3G air interface) everything beyond that is separate so for billing etc your friend would need a new SIM card. It's likely thet Optus people did not sell him a 3G SIM card - they will have to tell them what it is for so they give him the right SIM.
In OZ, Telstra share with 3 so you 'roam' onto the 3 network for 3G even though you have a Telstra SIM
the cab file is located on the extended rom, or on the 02 website, or the imate website, I have also posted the file elsewhere on this forum if you look for telstra.
if you cant find it, i can locate it and post it, just dont have it handy now.
a cab file installs programs or settings to a device. this particular one sets up all the mms, phone and 3 g settings. if he did a hard reset, the phone itself would ask him his communications provider and do this automatically. but telstra can only be used on telstra, and optus on optus networks, and they are effectively strings of commands to access gprs, 3g, and wap sites.
he may not have run the setup correctly on this. if he installs total commander, and types into the address field \extended_rom\ he would be able to locate the file on the device already and just run it to establish his correct settings.
however, i feel it is likely that the sim card is dud.
Hi all, thanks for your previous help. The customer now has a new SIM from Optus, Australia, which works great for calls.
However, he cannot set up GPRS. He states:
"I tried everything to set up gprs setting.I couldn't.I check the my friend's xda ii series gprs setting.It has got auto config option.So it does itself.But my xda exec ask me phone number ,domain name,username password,dns setting etc.
I rang to Optus technical support.They told me they don't support this one.They gave me dns number but didn't work. But I think . if xda ii works, exec should work.I just need set up for Australia. Please help me."
Does anyone have a link to an Optus Australia auto-config util that will send him the config in a magic SMS?
Failing that, can you type all the details here or provide a link to the Optus cab?
I'm with Vodafone on a $79 cap. The cap value includes data ($1/5min), but the billing by time rather than downloads might not suit most people.
As for configuring the phone - I just downloaded the operator settings CAB file from clubimate.com. Sets up everything perfectly!
AFIK, Vodafone and Optus are the only ones that will offer Sim-only 3G plans. Of course, you can go with Three, and just discard the phone (you can get a free phone on a $29 cap!)
JJ on Three network
JJ on Three network.
I'm going to check this post and report in the near future:
http://aussie3g.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=16121&highlight=jasjar+3netaccess
telstra also offer 3g plans, but I use their phone network and sim card as part of our corporate plan.
I have sent the customer the std cab file on my imate rom, which he reports was not beneficial for him.
I am not on optus so don't actually have the configuration settings.
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Don't bother with Three if you go overseas - there's no data coverage outside Australia for Australian customers.
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i never tried data, but videocalls worked fine...the only limitation being it only works on the overseas 3 network (3 - Hong Kong in my case, this was 2 years ago when i still lived in brisbane)
It's okay guys, Optus were giving him wrong details. He found the right ones -- they're all over Google
Hi, I have a jasjar in the UK using the o2 network, i will be going to China in june and would like to use the gprs nextwork there. Could someone tell me what i need to do to set it up? The help desk here keep insisting that my set up should just work, but I've been to China 3 times already and 3 times the gprs network was unavailable to me. What do I need to do?
Thanks
It all depends if O2 has a GPRS roaming agreement with the operator in China. You need to ask O2 this as they may not have GPRS agreements with every operator which they have a voice roaming agreement.
But when you find out what their roaming data charges are I think you'll find it will be far more economic to get a local prepaid SIM if the operator in the region that you are going to has prepaid GPRS. A quick google shows that E-Tong in Shanghai provide this http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives/20030707_use_gprs_in_shanghai.htm
That's easy. But firstly , would you like to use sim card produced by China?
If you use chinese sim card, the settings are easy.And what's more, it costs only 2$ for a month . Such phone number start with '136.........'.
The roaming will be extremely expensive. So it's better to forget about it.
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
But one thing you must pay attention. All prepaid card provided GPRS service is only able to use http connection with proxy. If you just want to browsing the web pages, it should be no problem. But if you want to receive/send email, there is no way.
Settings:
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
Enjoy it.
To use GPRS roaming in China check out http://www.o2.co.uk/business/produc...ices/travelling/using/gprsnets/0,,600,00.html
Seems its only China Mobile. And the charges are (gulp)
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/productsservices/mobileservices/travelling/using/gprs/0,,606,00.html
dahuzi said:
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
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Hi dahuzi... thanks for your reply. Is the Go-Tone a contract service with a monthly service charge?...
May I make some amendments to what dahuzi said:
I'm using both Go-zone and M-zone, and both can browse websites and check email. They are 2 types of connection; one is so called cmwap, and one is cmnet. You should use cmnet, which is the normal GPRS connection used worldwide.
The charge is different in different regions. Let's say in Beijing, the charge is RMB 20 (approx. Eur 2.00) for 50Mbs, RMB 100 for 800Mbs.
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
The above settings is for mobile handset only. You will not be able to use for full intenet usage.
If you intend to use your PDA or PC to access the internet using GPRS. You will require cwnet for full interenet access, and this service only available for locals pay monthly account package only. The service is not available for pay as go customer.
Internet on the move for foreign visitors in China may be confine to Starbucks or some WiFi hotspots.
Anyone who knows the China Mobile CEOs please pass this message to them, we are frustrated with their GPRS services unable to give full interent access for us foreigners.
Well, I was in China during my easter holidays and was very happy to find, after getting my bill, that O2 did not charge a penny for GPRS roaming in China with China mobile. Furthermore there is no need for additional settings on Exec so that everything worked fine and, freely. The GPRS roaming was really perfect; there was no need to buy a SIM from Chinese operators.
I am with an O2 data tariff which accounts for 200M data per month (29.8 pounds inc. tax).
I'm however not sure if it is the same case with Orange but I guess, from my past experience with China Mobile (I used the GPRS service since its open day in CM), it is highly possible to be a free roaming. HOWEVER I AM NOT LIABLE TO ANY MIS-GUESSES so please don't accuse me if I was wrong ..
My service provider is Mobilinkgsm in Pakistan. Last week I visited China. My GPRS worked perfectly there in China. I also sent and received MMS messages without any problem.
I was not required to change any settings for either the GPRS access point nor the MMS settings as my connection with MobilinkGSM Pakistan is set to International Roaming. I have an i-mate Jasjar.
GPRS international roaming rates for Mobilinkgsm Pakistan though are quite high. They charge US$ 0.02 per KB which means almost US$ 20.50 for a MB of Upload + Download data.
Just wanted to share my experience.
Regards
I'm going to work in HK, need to get a local Sim with GPRS.
Any recommendations, I would prefer a pay as I go GPRS if possible.
Also where would you go to get information about setting up the GPRS? Would swapping out the UK sim card and inserting the HK sim card be enough to get it to work, or do I need to set up settings on my PPC?
thanks
you may find most of the carriers in HKG providing stored-value sim card with GPRS access. It charges in KB and some of that will provide unlimited GPRS access with a monthly lum sum (around one hundred HKG dollars).
WM5 PPC would auto detect the setting in sim card when it plugs in, so you may not need to do any setting indeed.
I'm in Hong Kong know and bought a local vodafone sim card, the salesman claims it works with gprs but I can't get my jasjar to connect.
does anyone know what the Hong Kong Vodafone gprs settings are?
I need the access point name and user name and password and domain if applicable.
many thanks
I'm visiting Prague next week with my Trinity...
How do I configure the network connection?
I intend to purchase a SIM there for calls and data.
I would appreciate any info about the configurations for Prague.
In ISREAL we have a WAP configuration and INTERNET one. Are 2 options in Prague, too?
In Czech we also have two connection points. One for WAP and second for the INTERNET.
If you plan to purchase a SIM in Czech (02, T-Mobile or Vodafone) they will give you all necessary instructions
to configure/use/activate the network connection etc.
No worries ... just ask them...
hujer said:
In Czech we also have two connection points. One for WAP and second for the INTERNET.
If you plan to purchase a SIM in Czech (02, T-Mobile or Vodafone) they will give you all necessary instructions
to configure/use/activate the network connection etc.
No worries ... just ask them...
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Any idea how much it costs per 1Mega?
If you purchase Czech prepaid card, you will usually pay 0,06 Czech crown per 1 kB so it is 60 Czech Crown per 1 MB (3.5 USD/1MB).
With O2/T-Mobile you can have unlimited data for 1 month on their prepaid SIM card for 850 Czech Crown (cca 50 USD). But there are some other cheaper as well...
Only O2 has 3G coverage.
I recommend you to get a prepaid SIM card from O2 and activate "O2 Internet on your mobile" - http://www.cz.o2.com/osobni/en/inte...email-mobilni_internet-Internet_v_mobilu.html (there is FUP but many users experience they are not applying the FUP yet). The best thing, if you activate this service till the end of October, you will get the first three moths of the service for free.
moneytoo said:
If you purchase Czech prepaid card, you will usually pay 0,06 Czech crown per 1 kB so it is 60 Czech Crown per 1 MB (3.5 USD/1MB).
With O2/T-Mobile you can have unlimited data for 1 month on their prepaid SIM card for 850 Czech Crown (cca 50 USD). But there are some other cheaper as well...
Only O2 has 3G coverage.
I recommend you to get a prepaid SIM card from O2 and activate "O2 Internet on your mobile" - http://www.cz.o2.com/osobni/en/inte...email-mobilni_internet-Internet_v_mobilu.html (there is FUP but many users experience they are not applying the FUP yet). The best thing, if you activate this service till the end of October, you will get the first three moths of the service for free.
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1. What is FUP?
2. In Vodafone website (http://www.vodafone.cz/osobni/data/tarify/karta.htm) there is a price of 48 Crowns for WAP. It is more expensive than internet?!
1. FUP stands for Fair Usage Policy. If you exceed some (download data) limit, they may slow down your connection.
2. It's 0.48 Czech crown per 1 kB for WAP. So yes, it's way expensive then Internet connection. But today, no one use WAP connection anyway (I guess you don't need wap gateway, nor the access to provider's mobile portal).
moneytoo said:
1. FUP stands for Fair Usage Policy. If you exceed some (download data) limit, they may slow down your connection.
2. It's 0.48 Czech crown per 1 kB for WAP. So yes, it's way expensive then Internet connection. But today, no one use WAP connection anyway (I guess you don't need wap gateway, nor the access to provider's mobile portal).
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Here, in Israel, the WAP is cheap and "internet" is expensive!
I now have a Czech Vodafone SIM.
I can't use the GPRS. I configured the APN to "ointernet" but it isn't working!
Can someone help?
thanks you sharing !
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roeylee said:
I now have a Czech Vodafone SIM.
I can't use the GPRS. I configured the APN to "ointernet" but it isn't working!
Can someone help?
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APN "internet" and solved
btw there are tons of free wifi networks in prague
XDA-Developers
Hi guys,
Inherited a Stealth few weeks back but i realised that the Wireless option (to turn it on and off) doesnt work, nothing happens when i try to turn on my wifi, so i did a hard reset, but after the hard reset, it doesnt even detect or show up my wireless options. Any ideas guys?