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:x i have been trying to get the bluetooth sync to work to no avail. i am using a 3com bluetooth usb adapter on my pc and card on my notebook. i am having problems with both when i try to synchronise. i can see my i-mate has been discovered and bonded; i can send files too. but i cannot synchronise. either there is a bug in the PDA software, or its really hard (needs a rocket scientist) to use!!! either way its dissappointing. can anyone help?
by the way my nokia and ericsson phones sync fine with my current setup.
I have the same problem using a toshiba portege 4010 with bluetooth built in, it works with my Nokia but not with the XDA i am using aytivesync 3.7.1
I would also like some help or ideas please
Thanks
John
Got bluetooth to work once
I got bluetooth to work only once using a Billionton USB Bluetooth adapter. The software is neat, but requires so much messing around with to get the PDA to actually synchronise in bluetooth mode. Unfortunately, I could not get it to work again. Should have documented what I did the first time.
After trying lots of times, it works. I sycronised a XDA2 in bluetooth mode.
There are a few important things
1. You first have to sychronise the XDA2 in USB Cradle to build a standard-partnership between desktop pc and XDA2.
2.remove the XDA2 from the Cradle.
3.look which com-port your bluetooth serial port is using
4.take these settings over to the active sync settings (must be exactly the same com port)
5. pair the two devices
6.start active sync on the XDA2 and sychronise via bluetooth
It works.....
i made a better description with screenshots (in german) but i don't know how to post it.
I use a toshiba laptop with bluetooth built in, but when i scan the available bluetooth things in the XDA 2 it only finds "voice gateway" and "SSA" or something like that, there is no serial port listed, when i scan a phone (nokia) it finds "dun" "serial port" "fax" etc etc.
So i cant connect my XDA2 as the only profiles it seems to have are Voice gateway and some SSA thing, so as there is no serial port listed i cant use activesync, i have bonded with both the voice and SSA thing to com ports from 5 to 9 and get a connection, but as its not a serial port it will not work with activesync.
Sorry for my terrible description of the problem, but if yours works i am sur e it will make sence to you
Thanks
John
Your right ! The XDA2 provides no serial port profile to my Bluetooth stick too. And thats why the Bluetooth GPS Receiver doesn't work.
I know this sounds strange, but with Active Sync Bluetooth definitely works.
Yes I finally got it to work a couple of days ago with a certain type of bluetooth usb adapter and software. All I can say, is that bluetooth is not very user friendly!!!! Activesync should have it show up just as it shows "infrared" in the connection settings. This will make it very easy to select it. In this day and age, you cannot expect a technology to be successful from mass usage if it is not totally idiot proof. BLUETOOTH is not.... WIFI will rule!!!!
Hi so have you bonded to the "ssa" profile, and then what ever com port you used you then changed activesync to use this port and it then works, because i tried this and it done not work.
I also have a tomtom bluetooth that a friend is borrowing, but by the looks of it there is no point in getting it back as if there is no serial port on the available using bluetooth that will not work either
Thanks
John
try this link. it may help u set up your bluetooth with active sync - http://www.bluetoothnews.com/features/ActiveSync.htm
@applecom
No. You just have to pair the Devices. Don't connect to any Profile.
Pair them and then start Active Sync from the XDA 2 and connect with bluetooth.
activesync and bluetooth with xda II
start > settings > system > bluetooth settings > Activesync over blutooth (START)
Nutty but there you go.
XDA II Bluetooth ActiveSync
I noted if you add or change the registry will work even better :
\HLKM\SOFT\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Activesync
IsBTASsetup from 0 to 1
Hi
I have changed the registry like you said, But how dose it work better, the only problems i have are when i ask activesync on the XDA to connect over BT it oftern trys and says port in use, i just retry a few times and it works. After doing the reg edit it did connect first time, but is this what you ment by "its works better"
Thanks
John
As this my first ever post, I don't want to come over as smug, but I took delivery of my XDA 2 today and it synced using bluetooth after about 25 minutes of 'messing'!
All I did was delete all the bonding between the PC and the XDA and told it to sync via bluetooth, initiating from the XDA, I thought that it had failed...but then the XDA sprang to life and 'Bob was my uncle'!!
Very impressed with my XDA 2, having used an XDA for about 8 months.
Andy.
Bluetooth Sync
What I meant was it has become easier to get XDA II sync via bluetooth. Please note that you have to unpair your PC first then change the registry and pair again. If your PC's Bluetooth dongle support Headset profile ( I used anycom USB220 which has this profile) you will see your XDA II asking you if you want Headset profile added and Activesync screen for bluetooth appeared as well. Changing the registry will always make the sync work is what i noted. Seems like XDA II Bluetooth supports many profile just that dont know how to make it works.
Bluetooth Activesync problems
I'm on the verge of giving up on this! Think I should stick to USB sync...here goes...
I've tried the tricks mentioned in the forum to try to get my XDA II to sync via bluetooth with my Sony VAIO laptop (it has built-in bluetooth). I can get the two devices to bond (I enter the PIN number on both the laptop and XDA and it succeeds) but then I try to run the Bluetooth Activesync setup (in Settings-->Bluetooth Settings on the XDA) I get an error message every time that says "Please bond with other Bluetooth device which supports serial port or Activesync profile as your Activesync partner!"
I thought I already HAD bonded the devices? Any ideas?
Cheers
Carlton
Finally sorted it out. Delete the partnership that you already have. Start from start>settings>system>Bluetooth Settings. When you clik start, then pair your device again. After the pairing, you will get the message that Bluetooth Active Sync is now ready.
Still no joy
Thanks for your help Merc.
I tried doing exactly what you suggested but still doesn't work. This is what happens:
I deleted the existing bond on both XDA II and PC.
I went to start>settings>system>Bluetooth Settings and clicked on Start. This gave me the message "Please bond with other Bluetooth device which supports serial port or Activesync profile as your Activesync partner!" like before, then automatically opened the Bluetooth connections control panel in the "Mode" pane. I chose 'Discoverable' and clicked OK. I then went to my PC and used the Wireless Link control panel and clicked 'Add' (to run Bluetooth connection wizard) which searched for devices. It found my XDA II and I entered the passkey on both XDAII and PC (same passkey on each).
The Bluetooth connection wizard then told me that the XDAII was offering DUN (dial up networking) services. I selected this and then clicked next. Was I supposed to select this (actually, it made no difference when I tried again without selecting!).
The wizard completed and both the PC and XDAII notified me that the bond was successful. I then waited and waited for something else to 'happen' (like a message to say that Bluetooth Active Sync is now ready.) but nothing happened. I gave it a couple of minutes.
I went to Activesync on the XDA and tried the 'connct with Bluetooth' just in case it had worked, but nothing happened. I went to Activesync on the PC and tried using a different COM port for infrared/serial links (as I assume this is what bluetooth uses) but no joy. I only had COM3 and COM4 showing in the connection settings in activesync, which surprised me as I thought there would be more.
That's it. I tried 3 times but still no luck. Any other ideas are greatly appreciated!
Cheers
Carlton
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Your procedure is just like mine. But I used "On" and discovered the PC from the PDA. Do not use "Discoverable". Let me hear if you have any luck
The only way I have got it to work is assigning the bluetooth serial port to COM 6. Then set Activesync on the desktop to COM 6.
Any other COM port just won't work. Anybody else got it working on a different bluetooth COM port?
xdaguru
I have recently installed a bluetooth dongle to my desktop (Smart mdular Tech USB short range wireless). Try as I might, and I've read all the entries from other users for configs, short cuts, tricks - the lot - I still cannot get bluetooth active sync to work. The only thing I haven't tried is hard reset of my xda, which I am reluctant to do for severa reasons. To add insult to injury, now my pocket outlook and pocket IE will not recognise the GPRS connection and will not download. Any suggestions would be extremely helpful. Cheers. Guts :roll:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contenttypeid=2
have you followe these guides ?
when you say xda you mean xda2 right ?
The blue tooth dongle and XP sp2 are working - I've downloaded the appropriate drivers. The systems are paired - and I've continually tried the procedures for activating the bt activesync - I receive the same default message from my (yes, it is an) XDA 2. I have gone back through again to double check my settings, still no luck. Guts
i had a problem like that when i installed some version of vidcomm when i removed it anything worked just fine
you have to rebound with the pc of cause
and make sure that activesync is set to use the com port that the bluetooth is set to incomming
So far I have been unable to syncronise using bluetooth. I could do it without much sweat win pda2k (ba), but not with jasjar (universal) so far. Any other owner managed to figure out how to do it? Cheers.
Got it working no problem at all. In fact I managed this before I managed to get it working with USB.
I used the same method that one would use for any WM2003 device.
Set PDA to discoverable on JASJAR
Look for BT devices from PC
Select the JASJAR
Select BT serial port
Find out the COM port of this serial port. Note it down.
Fire up activesync
Change the connection settings to look on the com port you noted down.
On JASJAR got to BT settings
Add a BT device
Select your PC
Select Activesync partner
Go to activesync
Select synch via BT from the menu
i will try again
i prefer the wm2003 wizard to wm2005, i will see maybe i missed something. thanks for clear instructions
still problem with bluetooth
Well I still have been unable to get the bluetooth working for the syncing. I follow the instructions in the booklet and help files, + what I just been told, but there are two issues,
the serial port is for outgoing from the PC, so that could not be used.
In the Com ports tabs two com ports get assigned one for incoming and one for outgoing, with the BA, we use the incoming which we feed into the Activesync, and it works then.
If I do that and create a sync relationship on the pda, there is the option of assigning outgoing port from pda, however when relationship is created only the incoming serial is showing up...
anyways, i have no problem using bluetooth on BA, and could not get it to work on jasjar/htc univ.
Doesnt matter I dont mind using the cable, but dishing the equivalent of US$1400 for a pda whose wizards dont work properly is a bit of an anteclimax.
And talking about ergonomics, the virtual keyboard has the annoying tendency to cover what u are going to write, so u dont see what u are writing...
They also removed the Avantgo utility from the IE, but I got it back by installing the one for winCE and upgrading over...
So for now, I will keep working on my BA (pda2k) as I dont want to waste my time working around bugs, until these get ironed out.
Greetings
Nabil H
I hope all these bugs will be fixed after the official launch
working at last
i managed to get the bluetooth syncing, the secret
1. hard reset,
2. recognise device on pc side
3. create activesync partnership on pda side
4. check incoming com port on pc side
5. feed that to activesync on pc side
6. check activesync partnership from pda side with pc
7. pda will pick up on partnership serial connection as being activesync
8. incoming and outgoing com ports ready to be used on pda side
9. choose outgoing com port on pda same as incoming com port on pc
10. connection established syncing starts...
All this without starting using the usb cable (so different from BA method)...
hope it helps others...
probs... again
Now after setting up and synicng with bluetooth I used the usb link to sync, and it complained about an error. I had to remove the bluetooth setup, and it is still complaining, I give up
I guess the famous russian saying is very wise: "Better is the enemy of the good"
Nabil H out
bluetooth, usb link and wifi
No wonder bluetooth was turned off by default in this jasjar shipment. I believe the following are bugs:
1. U can set up activesync over bluetooth initially after a hard reset.
2. If you then set it up after over a usb link, u lose the bluetooth setting, and can only sync over bluetooth after a hard reset again!
3. If u set up bluetooth, u get difficulties with wifi not connecting (on my system I can only get that back by disabling my wifi connection then enabling it again, dont ask me why this is so, i do not have the foggest clue)
4. When ur wifi is worknig u start having problems with bluetooth connections.
5. Even with a bluetooth sync working, u cannot browse folders on ur jasjar device from another device, as this service does not seem to be implemented.
This does not look very good for users who have multiple/various network connections...
So a patch is already needed for these connectivity issues...
Developers, look into this please...
Greetings
Nabil H out
wifi and bluetooth - solved
I finally managed, after some sweat to get:
. Wifi and bluetooth working together
. Two pda's BA and Universal using wifi simultaneously.
However what cannot be done is:
. Using two pda's with activesync simultaneously, this is a limitation of MS Activesync.
Greetings
Nabil H
PS On club imate website there is now a faq fro JASRAR (HTC Univ).
wifi and bluetooth - solved
Nabil,
can you post what you did to get this working.
thanks.
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I finally managed, after some sweat to get:
. Wifi and bluetooth working together
. Two pda's BA and Universal using wifi simultaneously.
However what cannot be done is:
. Using two pda's with activesync simultaneously, this is a limitation of MS Activesync.
Greetings
Nabil H
PS On club imate website there is now a faq fro JASRAR (HTC Univ).
Hi Members,
I have just joined the site and this is my first post to try and find a solution to the most annoying frustrating problem im having. I am trying to connect a o2 XDA Mini to my laptop via bluetooth over a belkin dongle. My system only shows com port 4 then 9 12 etc. I have tried using 4 many times. Both the phone and the pc partner ok, but then when i try to sync from the handset the PDA try's to partnet again and will not connect. I have tried other ports, no good! same result. I then searched google extensivly and tried installing other stacks Widcomm, blue soleil etc as i aslo have cards and dongles for those, still no joy. Is the phone broken? Well my wife has the same make and model. Her one wouldnt connect either!! whats the problem with this phone/PDA. Do you have to be a rocket scientist to use BT or what. I visited other sites and forums and posed the question there. Apart from one reply it appears no one seems to know either way. Any help or guides other than the outdates geekzone(2004) would be most appreciated as i think those guides were not created for WM5 systems lol
Thank you and fingers crossed lol
EFM
I've always had problems syncing over bluetooth.
I dont have a WM2005 device, but my XDA mini exhibits the same problems.
I did get my xda to sync through bluetooth on my windows computer, but that was using bluesoeil. Strange thing was, after i switched stacks to the normal windows one, when i successfully sync'ed through bluesoeil, it WORKED!!
A hard reset has happened since then and im plagued with problems.
If you use a mac and a PC like me, i found it very easy to sync my xda mini through bluetooth with a mac. (provided you have buy the software).
If you search even harder through google, theres a page i came across which shows you, through windows cmd line, delete ports and free some up. Havent tried it tho.
Anyways goodluck, try hard resetting and starting fresh if you wanna sync wirelessly that bad.
Try this
Try this , it may work for you. Also I found that XP SP2 is needed if you wnt to sync via BT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=246847
Good luck
Ciao
works perfectly for me using different versions of vidcomm on the belkin and logitech dongles i have on various computers
on the pda i just choose the IMSync or whatever it's called as profile
and start activesync on the pda click on sync over bluetooth and it does
Heres something i found...
http://help.lockergnome.com/general/Activesync-Port-Availability-Bluetooth-ftopict26563.html
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315539
thats how to delete ghost ports from your system.
I got everything NEARLY set up, i cant set a outgoing port!.
I even hard reseted, still no luck, i think i just need to set a outgoing port to get this to work.
whitemoo.
ok...after restoring my backup from the hard reset, i rebooted the phone.
Then i got side tracked and went on the XDA-developers wiki.
Seeing that 'set up your own bluetooth personal network' article, i decided to set it up.
Figuring out that the original bluetooth stack is worthless, i switched to bluesoeil and rebooted.
Bluesoeil did not work for some reason, and couldnt find my bluetooth hardware, so rebooted the phone with the normal stack.
I went into the normal stack that came with my phone, and mysteriously, i could set outgoing ports!
I set the port my outgoing port to comm0 and tried to sync.
AND IT WORKED!!...its finally syncing!
Oh btw, i found this file in my ext rom: called 'default_BT_com_port0.cab' i installed it and it allowed me to set comm0 in the normal staCK. Previously before i installed that cab, i couldnt see ANY avalible com ports to set.
YAY!...whitemoo.
Hi
Thanks for the advise there it was appreciated. I have tried the different bluetooth devices two doggles and a card all with widcomm and microsoft drivers all have not worked blue soleil wouldnt find a serial port on my phone only dUN and Push obex. I have spent ages on this now i figured it just a worhless wm5 smartphone with a keboard.. oh MS if your listening re XDA Mini factor it in to the guidebook how to sync to an everyday computer to bluetooth. You provide the function but it dont work.. crapper ive had it with this overated smartphone with a slide out keyboard. worse thing is how much i paid for it. what a rip off!! I could get an old C500 WM2003 to BT sync on all three of these BT dongle/card.
Oh well thx.. Guys glad you got a result with yours bravo' lol
Many thanks for the input.
EFM
Hi again,
I have tried to contact o2 re this matter they tell me it cant be done via activesync and bluetooth. Has any one else managed to sync an XDA min via activesync to there computer. I am running xp pro SP2, Activesync Ver. 4.1 of the cover disc with the phone. I downloaded 4.2 and 4.5Beta to make sure none work. Google searches reveal nothin g on the subject. The model i appear to have is the WIZA200 version with WM5 rom version 5.1.195 (build 14847.2.0.0).
Any clues folks
thanks.
EFM
Can anyone help me please with this problem?
Thanks.
Hi
I have read through literally hunderds of pages of GPS stuff to do with mini. I have read some things that are true and some that aren't and am now confused.
I installed Tomtom 5.0 onto my Mini S. It went on fine. Maps installed fine. I went into 'satellites - configure' part and couldn't find my GPS on any of the settings. I am almost sure my GPS receiver isn't bluetooth. I know the baud should be 4800, but otherwise I am not sure. My dad has the same recieve but uses his with an IPAQ and it worked first time. I have tried my receiver with his ipaq and the receiver works fine so that eliminates that posibility.
Here is my receiver and the blurb that comes with it.
http://www.evermoregps.ca/
GM-R700 GPS receiver
(third one down.)
The mouse-shape GPS receiver is design for PC and PDA applications. With WAAS/EGNOS channels, EverMore can give you more accurate direction and position. Compact Flash module is also available now.
I selected 'Other NMEA GPS receiver' and tried all of those. Then went through the bluetooth equivelent just in case. None of them pick my receiver up.
I then read somewhere that version 6 of Tomtom wouldn't work on my XDA mini. I downloaded 5.2 and tried it with that. I had read that this allowed 'port 7' to work. I couldn't get my map to work with 5.2 even though I spent ages on it. Eventually I tried Tomtom 6.0. As I mentioned earlier, someone had said that it wouldn't work on an XDA, but this is false as I got it working straight away. The map also installed fine and once I activated it things seemed ok. I presumed that the port 7 would now come as an option. It didn't. I am still at the same place. I believe that the port 7 thing may be a bluetooth only thing but I am not sure. I am not great at GPSbut know my way around an IPAQ pretty well. I am new to my phone so chances are there is some gateway or something that I haven't enabled etc, but I am at the end of what I know.
If anyone can help me out at all I would be eternally greatful. So far I have spent a good 20 hours getting the bloody thing working and I am about to lose the will to live.
I have used the search option on the site, but it seems everyone has BT GPS, and none of the posts seem relevant to my problem. If I have missed a post then I am sorry, but there are a fair few posts on the site now.
Thanks in advance,
Woody.
bluetooth
you have to pair your gps receiver with your phone in bluetooth settings give it com ports then go into tomtom then into show gps status then configurethen other bluetooth gps receiver then pick your com port hope this helps
jay05 said:
you have to pair your gps receiver with your phone in bluetooth settings give it com ports then go into tomtom then into show gps status then configurethen other bluetooth gps receiver then pick your com port hope this helps
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Do I have to do this even though it isn't a bluetooth device?
Even when I enabled com 7 on bluetooth settings, comm 7 didn't appear on 'Select your GPS receiver' on Tomtom.
I will try it anyway, and thanks for the speedy response.
sorry
i have give you wrong advice i thought gps recever wash bluetooth you should try going into on your phone settings, connections ,beam ,and un tick receive all in coming beams as these frees up the com port 7 on xda1.YOU WILL HAVE TO RECONFIGURE SETTINGS IN TOMTOM GPS STATUS FOR WIRED GPS RECEVER. SORRY FOR LAST POST HOPE THIS HELPS ps i got gps recever recever off ebay was meant to work on my xda1 but did not it was for ipaq the connector was the same but wiring was wrong hope this helps
Woody, first of all I couldn't understand that which GPS device have you got as you have mentioned 3rd down on that webpage, anyway I have the attached the picture of one of the device named "GM-R700", if this is the right device which you have then this is a serial cabled GPS device which connect to the device via cradle, not via Bluetooth, if I am right then bluetooth chapter is closed, we are going to talk about the cable GPS device.
If it is the right device then how are you connecting the GPS device to the XDA, does the GPS device came with the cradle and the car charger? (it must be).
Find the attached word file for a sequential instructions, I have just made it for you and others who are still stuck to make their TomTom work.
GoodLuck & let me know.
Sidd
Sidd, your attached documents refuse to open!, I am not too sure that you can connect a wired GPS to this type of phone, it simply won't work, the only option is Bluetooth for the Wizzard. In the case of the IIi and IIs phones they had a true serial port that could be used - Mike
Try these attached files as I have zipped them on a normal compression.
I think ""GuinUK (1st post)"" hasn't mention his/her device, but the GPS he/she mentioned is a serial device.
Sidd
I am pretty sure it is a Mini S he is trying to get to work with the cabled GPS receiver, it simply will not work - the device doesn't have a serial port to connect equipment like this to. The Mini S is Bluetooth only for GPS AFAIK - Mike
sidd said:
Woody, first of all I couldn't understand that which GPS device have you got as you have mentioned 3rd down on that webpage, anyway I have the attached the picture of one of the device named "GM-R700", if this is the right device which you have then this is a serial cabled GPS device which connect to the device via cradle, not via Bluetooth, if I am right then bluetooth chapter is closed, we are going to talk about the cable GPS device.
If it is the right device then how are you connecting the GPS device to the XDA, does the GPS device came with the cradle and the car charger? (it must be).
Find the attached word file for a sequential instructions, I have just made it for you and others who are still stuck to make their TomTom work.
GoodLuck & let me know.
Sidd
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Thanks for your reply. This is indeed the right GPS. Sorry for any confusion there. I am about to try what you have written. I have indeed got a cradle, and a converter which makes my Ps2 GPS fit into the socket.
I will get back to you with how I got on.
Thanks again for the help, at least I know for sure it isn't BT before I start.
Woody
mikealder said:
I am pretty sure it is a Mini S he is trying to get to work with the cabled GPS receiver, it simply will not work - the device doesn't have a serial port to connect equipment like this to. The Mini S is Bluetooth only for GPS AFAIK - Mike
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OK I got the download working from Sidd, thanks. I ran through all the steps you had mentioned. The problem I had is that I don't get the option of 'serial cable blah blah', mine just says 'Serial port'.
My phone is a Mini S. Perhaps this is the reason why. My friend has a bluetooth model, and I got that working fine so I guess if this last attempt doesn't work I will just buy another GPS. It isn't like they are expensive in truth.
Thanks everyone for the help, and sorry for my delay in posting but it being Xmas and all.
Cheers
Woody
If u r going for a bluetooth gps device then keep one thing in mind that u might find difficulty in searching of the proper bluetooth com port. Soltution is to download the TomTom version 5.2 prior to connect ur device.
GoodLuck & let me know
Sidd
Fantastic post
Thanks Sidd, your word doc (Serial COM Port setting to setup TomTom.doc) worked a treat, two mins and I'm up and running. I'm using spv m1500 (same as xda 2) with a cheap unbranded cabled gps unit i got from fleabay and TomTom 5.2. Thanks again.
Can I re-iterate for the benefit of others reading this post, the newer XDA device (equipped with a mini USB connection point) cannot be used with a wired GPS unit, this includes the Mini-S, Exec, Orbit etc. The older devices IIs, IIi etc all require the Receive all beams to be turned of to free up the serial port for use by the wired GPS.
If your device has a mini USB connector your only option is Bluetooth for GPS - Mike
Doc114 said:
Thanks Sidd, your word doc (Serial COM Port setting to setup TomTom.doc) worked a treat, two mins and I'm up and running. I'm using spv m1500 (same as xda 2) with a cheap unbranded cabled gps unit i got from fleabay and TomTom 5.2. Thanks again.
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No problem Doc114 my pleasure, any way I am also going to upload something new on the FTP (check in: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Software/) with another brief instruction manual, enjoy the new one, you know what I mean (My name would be included in the file name, so you can recognise it easily).
I will also make one illustrated instruction for a bluetooth GPS setting whenever got a device.
Sidd